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Democracy Player is 0.9.2 and Growing Up Fast

Dean writes "Democracy Player, the open source answer for RSS video aggregation/playback, has just made it to 0.9.2 for Windows, Mac and Linux. If you haven't tried Democracy Player for a while, it's time to try it again. The application is more responsive and stable, uses less memory, integrates Bittorrent, and can now play Flash videos (including stuff from YouTube, Google, Yahoo, etc). Democracy takes all the hassle out of finding and watching videos from your favorite sources." In many ways, Democracy is the template of what I'd like to see out of Apple's upcoming iTV. Although my guess is that it will be more like MythTV- only for people willing to put in the effort.

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  1. Requiring effort is not always a bad thing by Realistic_Dragon · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Look at usenet. As soon as anyone could use it with low barriers to entry there were enough people there to attack spam and trolls and all of the rest of it.

    For many many services the ideal number of people is just above the critical mass level of committed/dedicated users who will put in the time and effort to make things work and just below the level at which it get's noticed by the wrong people. Making it difficult to use (but powerful and flexible - features that are attractive to the dedicated people who add the most value) is a reasonable strategy for community based systems.

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  2. XUL versus My Memory by sbrown123 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I tried it out. I quickly noticed it was using XUL. XUL apps, like Firefox and Thunderbird, *each* consume large amounts of my computer's memory. They need to come up with a shared, one time loaded XUL library for XUL apps.

    1. Re:XUL versus My Memory by MP3Chuck · · Score: 4, Informative

      Enter XULRunner. Democracy Player uses it ... when FF and TB will is another story, I suppose. I guess since their development is ahead of XULRunner's curve (XULR is based on FF 1.5.0.4's codebase), it'll be a while.

    2. Re:XUL versus My Memory by 2sheds · · Score: 4, Informative

      From the XULRunner FAQ:

      Q. When will Firefox be based on XULRunner?
      A. See the XULRunner roadmap. This is scheduled for Firefox 3 (XULRunner 1.9), in the first quarter of 2007.

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  3. Flash Videos? Hassle to View? by garcia · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Democracy takes all the hassle out of finding and watching videos from your favorite sources.

    You use any number of the video downloading apps available for Firefox, save it as a real video format, and watch it that way -- then, regardless of what device you watch it on (mobile or otherwise) you can still use it.

    Personally, I prefer it that way, but that's true Democracy ;)

  4. Freedom is fucking ugly. But that's its beauty. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Look at usenet. As soon as anyone could use it with low barriers to entry there were enough people there to attack spam and trolls and all of the rest of it.

    USENET represents the closest venue we have for true and complete freedom of expression. People can post about virtually any idea, concept, thought or belief. They can transmit image and video data. In short, it's the freest place we have. And as a result, there will be stuff there that boils your blood, and makes you want to shit your pants. That's what freedom of expression is all about. It's about seeing spam, viewing pictures of Goatse's gaping anus, and reading about how the TCO of Windows is less than that of Linux. And as much as we may hate such ideas, we have to be thankful that we have the freedom to read them, and somebody else had the freedom to post them.

    1. Re:Freedom is fucking ugly. But that's its beauty. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      And as a result, there will be stuff there that boils your blood, and makes you want to shit your pants.

      And more importantly, you can find videos of other people shitting their pants!

  5. Re:Six codecs -- all free? by RalphBNumbers · · Score: 3, Informative

    There may be some official flash codec from Adobe that you have to pay for, I don't know, but there are definitely other ways to play flash in quicktime.

    Quicktime itself can already play older non-video flash presentations. And the flash video codec that Democracy player is asking you to let it install is Perian, an open source project that integrates libavcodec and a bunch of other video related OSS libraries into a Quicktime component.

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  6. Re:Flash Videos? Hassle to View? by Jeff+DeMaagd · · Score: 4, Informative

    The benefit of Democracy is that it saves bandwidth for the producers given that it uses bittorrent. Also, it offers channels via RSS, such as a particular show that you like, so if something new comes down the RSS feed, Democracy can automatically download it and add it to your media library. Once it puts the video file on your computer, you can reencode it to other formats if you like.

  7. Re:Not in portage? by Kopl · · Score: 4, Funny

    "emerge -s democracy Searching... [ Results for search key : democracy ] [ Applications found : 0 ]" Welcome to our Monarchy.

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  8. Re:not so good by __aahlyu4518 · · Score: 4, Funny

    Not the best example of stability I've seen.

    Of what? Windows that let's an app crash the whole OS? You MUST have seen THAT before !

  9. Here's what stopped me by wrook · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I gave this a try, thinking "This might be useful for me to keep up with my anime". However, it's still got a way to go before I will use this app. Here's what's stopping me.

    1) My Content: You can select a directory that contains video content that you already have on your machine during configuration. But you only get to select one directory. After you select that directory, you don't seem to be able to change it.

    2)I added animesuki to the "channels". This downloaded the RSS feed and set up roughly 1600 "programs". However it is set by default to start downloading *all* of them. After scrambling around I stopped them. This is a BAD default.

    3)As far as I can tell, I can't specify which "programs" on a "channel" I want to download. It's all or nothing. I want to input a regexp here (seems like an unlikely feature for this app, though...)

    4)I tried to play 2 files that I already had downloaded (REC and Touch). REC crashed the Democracy player. Touch played audio for about 3 seconds before hanging. Both of these are AVI packages with Mpeg4 codecs...

    So, while interesting, I think I'll wait until it's a bit more mature...