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Servers, Hackers, and Code In the Movies

Billosaur writes "As with anything, Hollywood has a weird way of viewing computer technology and the people who use it. To help quantify things, take a look at The Top 20 Movie Hackers, the Top Ten Movie Servers, and the things code doesn't do in real life." From the servers article: "3. UNIX environment - Jurassic Park (1993). The UNIX environment here is a classic geek joke. Everything we saw was real - created by Silicon Graphics and called IRIX. InGen was the corporation funding the island, and from an IT perspective they let the worst possible thing happen: they allowed one programmer to design the infrastructure with no supervision. What's worse, they obviously required no documentation of what was done. The result was a kid had to hack in and gain ROOT privileges. The likelihood of a young kid knowing a way to get ROOT (and not a more experienced programmer) is pretty hard to swallow. The hardware for this server was probably minimal, running door locks and starting Quicktime movies. 'We spared no expense!' You would think that with the millions of dollars they spent on the park, they could have hired a couple newbie programmers and added a server on the backend."

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  1. Slashdotted -here's the list by joe_bruin · · Score: 2, Informative

    20. Jack Stanfield, Firewall (2006)
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    19. J-Bone, Johnny Mnemonic (1995)
    jbone
    18. Lazlo Hollyfeld, Real Genius (1985)
    lazlo
    17. Wyatt Donnelly, Weird Science (1985)
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    16. Milo Hoffman, Antirust (2001)
    milo_400
    15. Dennis Nedry, Jurassic Park (1993)
    nedry
    14. Gus Gorman, Superman III (1983)
    gus_400
    13. Kevin Mitnick, Takedown (2000)
    mitnick
    12. Boris Grishenko, Goldeneye (1995)
    borisgrishenko
    11. John 'Captain Crunch' Draper, Pirates of Silicon Valley (1999)
    crunch
    10. Michael Bolton & Samir Nagheenanajar, Office Space (1999)
    michaelsamir
    9. Theodore Donald 'Rat' Finch, The Core (2003)
    rat
    8. The Puppet Master, Ghost In The Shell (1995)
    puppet_master
    7. Stanley Jobson, Swordfish (2001)
    swordfish_400
    6. Jobe Smith, Lawnmower Man (1992)
    jobe
    5. Kevin Flynn, Tron (1982)
    flynn
    4. David Lightman, WarGames (1983)
    wargames
    3. Dade 'Crash Override' Murphy, Hackers (1995)
    crash
    2. Martin Bishop, Sneakers (1992)
    bishop
    1. Thomas 'Neo' Anderson, The Matrix (1999)
    neo

  2. They weren't paying attention to Jurassic Park by iabervon · · Score: 5, Informative

    The screenshot for Jurassic Park looks like a normal Irix screen. But what anybody who actually watched that part of the movie noticed was that the screen in the movie was some weird flying-through-a-virtual-reality-landscape thing, which the kid immediately recognized as UNIX. Almost everybody with actual UNIX experience just laughed at that, because it was classic a Hollywood computer representation. Except that it really was Irix, but running a window manager only available to people whose UNIX system had superfluous accelerated 3D graphics in 1995 (i.e., movie CG folks). What the audience couldn't see, but the kid would have been able to, was that the landscape had, written on the ground, things like "sbin" and "usr", clear signs of a UNIX system of some sort. As for breaking in, when dinosaurs are taking over your facility, chances are you aren't patching sendmail every day. And, in '95, that would have been a problem.

    1. Re:They weren't paying attention to Jurassic Park by houghi · · Score: 5, Informative

      That program does exist. It is called "3D File System Navigator for IRIX 4.0.1+"
      More information on this page

      Similar systemes do exist like the linux clone called fsv

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    2. Re:They weren't paying attention to Jurassic Park by peragrin · · Score: 2, Informative

      Um that's an IRIX file manager. Data information is displayed as 3D images with file size representing hieght.

      Look it up. it was pretty cool but ultimately not very useful. You can download the source code and port it if you would like.

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    3. Re:They weren't paying attention to Jurassic Park by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      The OP did a poor job of expressing himself, but you are, in fact, agreeing with him.

  3. Hey - it was IRIX by rainer_d · · Score: 1, Informative

    A kid could r00t it.

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  4. The same goes for Legal shows by Freaky+Spook · · Score: 4, Informative

    IANAL but I do provide IT support to a few firms.

    You never, ever, see any paperwork, stacks of document boxes or any case files being used in any legal shows.

    They make it seem(Especially in Boston Legal) that the defendant or plaintif just tells the attourneys their problem and then just go to court and argue it.

    1. Re:The same goes for Legal shows by Nutty_Irishman · · Score: 2, Informative

      This isn't true for Law and Order. At one of the top 10 law schools in the nation, law students watch law and order specifically to try and pick out parts that are not factual. It turns into a study guide for them as the writers actually took their time and made the law in the episodes as factual as possible.

  5. Re:MIA: by Takumi2501 · · Score: 1, Informative
    A more impressive absentee is one that they mention in the "things code doesn't do in real life" list - Jeff Goldblum from Independence Day. He hacked an alien spacecraft with a Mac in the space of a couple of minutes.
    FTA:
    10. Most code is not inherently cross platform Remember in Independence Day when whatshisface-math-guy writes a virus that works on both his apple laptop AND an alien mothership? Bullshit! If real life were like film I'd be able to port wordpress to my toaster using a cat5 cable and a bag of glitter.
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  6. Re:WOPR...all those blinking lights by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    It wasn't like there was a 300 baud modem hanging off the back of WOPR - the army guy asks how the attack happened and the techie replies "he got into our network through a dial up at one of our remote facilities" - or something to that effect.

    They go on to mention that this had now been diabled and wouldn't happen again. From that point on, it's WOPR phoning David back to continue the "game".

  7. Re:That fake computer sound! by rutwms · · Score: 4, Informative

    I'd kill to have a program that makes terminal output sound like it does in the movies!

    From the beep man page (in Debian):

    When using -c mode, I recommend using a short -D, and a shorter -l, so that the beeps don't blur together. Something like this will get you a cheesy 1970's style beep-as-you-type-each-letter effect

    cat file | beep -c -f 400 -D 50 -l 10
  8. DARE make a "true" hacker movie! by Opportunist · · Score: 2, Informative

    Let's even ignore for a moment the fact that real hacking is boring to look at. What's interesting for Joe Average to watch a guy live on Chips and Jolt for hours and days while typing cryptic commands?

    Imagine someone actually did a "true" hacker movie. Let's imagine a documentary. A "show hack" if you want, where someone who really knows what he's doing is giving us a 90 minute rundown of a hack. Using real tools, trying real exploits. How long do you think 'til certain three letter orgs step in and round up everyone who had even remotely anything to do with it?

    Hacking isn't a funny game anymore. As more information and money is dealt through electronic channels, the stakes rose considerably. Hacking is a business, more than it ever was. And it has become a problem to the powers that be, more than it ever was.

    Movies already tell BS in certain other areas, for example when it comes to chemicals used in bombs or how certain tools can be (ab)used to cause havoc, just to deter wannabe copycats. You think anyone would be allowed to do a "true" hacker movie in this climate?

    Besides, nobody would want to watch it. Except maybe geeks, but you can hardly make a blockbuster that way. I mean, when was the last time your computer blew up due to a botched hack? See? No explosions, no gunfights, not interesting.

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  9. Re:I want one of those monitors... by flamingnight · · Score: 2, Informative

    [OT]
    Was that at the RNC in 2004? I used my video tape to get BS charges against myself (and possibly a few others arrested in Times Square) dropped. Hell, my ACLU lawyer didn't even have to show up in court. I just had the tape in my hands.

  10. The window manager is real by Shadow-isoHunt · · Score: 3, Informative

    The window manager showed in Jurrasic Park is actually real, it's fsn. There's a linux port, fsv at sourceforge. As you'll notice, the view does make it possible to tell that you're in a *nix enviornment.

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  11. Re:no, no they don't... by goodtim · · Score: 2, Informative

    A counter example to this list was The Matrix - Reloaded. Where a documented exploit was used to gain access to the power grid. As for how a single system was able to bring down power for an entire city - well thats touches a subject called Willing Suspension of Disbelief.

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  12. Forbidden Planet by nsaspook · · Score: 2, Informative

    The most powerful server was also the most dangerous. The 50 mile by 50 mile computer complex on "Forbidden Planet". The server could create anything a mind could think of. Even monsters from a Disney movie.

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  13. Re:terminator kicked ass with COBOL by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    The Terminator ran a MC6502 chip, at least it was 6502 assembler that you'd see through his "eyes".

  14. Re:It's funny? Laugh? by Mr.+Flibble · · Score: 2, Informative

    ...and ninja assassins find amusing to people not in those fields.

    While I am not a Ninja Assasin, I am a Unix admin, and I did laugh at "I know this!". But in the same vien, I have studied martial arts for years, and whenever I see a swordfight, in a movie, it drives me insane.

    The next time you watch a swordfight in a movie, watch where the swords are being swung. Most of the time, if the opponent just dropped their sword to the floor, the attacking swing would miss completely. In hollywood, they swing the swords at the other swords - blade to blade - instead of trying to actually hit the other guy.

    That drives me nuts.
    (Still working on the Ninja Assasin bit though...)

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  15. Re:The blip noise by iluvcapra · · Score: 5, Informative

    A statement:

    I am a sound designer and a programmer. I have on many occasions intentionally, even without being asked, cut "blip" sound effects for code scrolling across a screen -- not just code, but any sort of stdout/text output/situational awareness display.

    I do not do it because I'm stupid, or am trying to dumb down the audience, it for a few specific reasons:

    • There are several storytelling conventions in cinema, namely, computers make beeping noises when their graphics change. Though most computers don't now, they used to, and the convention was started around the time Robert Redford was passionately waiting for a teletype to emit an important bit of data.
    • Aside from the computer convention, there is the strong convention of providing a sound effect for any physical change that occurs on screen that humans cannot account for with alpha, beta or delta motion (see phi phenomenon for a discussion of how humans interpret 2-dimensional images). "See a sound, hear a sound" is the first commandment of sound effects.
    • Along these lines, I could show you footage of a computer screen and give you nothing but a fan whirr, and you'd be bored and immediately looking around the room, and the sound helps keep your attention on the data on screen. This is important, since computer displays often are bearing an embarrasing amount of exposition. Sound is like control characters in ASCII: it's out of band and can do magical things to your "session" (in the broadest sense of the word).

    We put blips on a computer screen for the same reason ipods chirp when you press a button. Psychology.

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  16. Re:Maybe it's just me by Saint+Lucian · · Score: 2, Informative

    First off Jurassic Park is one of favourite films, so allow me to retort.

    Myth: Dennis was the only programmer

    Dennis was the only programmer left on the Island as all the others had left for their vacation. Jurassic Park was set during a vacation period hence why there were so few people and why the load speakers were telling people they had to make it down to the ferry. Dennis had purposely waited until there was only skeleton crew as this would allow him access to the cold storage.

    Myth: The girl hacked into the system

    No. The power had been shut off then turned back on. She accessed the system as it booted up the next time. It seems that they hadn't gotten around to setting a root password yet (the place was still in development after all). All she really does is:

    1. realise that its UNIX
    2. probably touch a key and have the screen come out of power save
    3. fire up Irix's 3D file manager (maybe she pressed the up arrow and executed the last command in the shells history).
    4. start a few programs using said file manager

    All things that could be done by anyone who thinks they are a "hacker".

    Off-topic but does anybody know whether the Apple used by Dennis is running Mac OS or Apples Unix A/UX

  17. Re:MIA: by blugu64 · · Score: 2, Informative

    Umm..hard to do anything in MacOS 9 in 1996 ;)

    (didn't come out till 1999, no I have no life)

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  18. Re:It's funny? Laugh? by Chris+Burke · · Score: 4, Informative

    The next time you watch a swordfight in a movie, watch where the swords are being swung. Most of the time, if the opponent just dropped their sword to the floor, the attacking swing would miss completely. In hollywood, they swing the swords at the other swords - blade to blade - instead of trying to actually hit the other guy.

    A very noteable exception -- or maybe not since it isn't Hollywood but what you're saying is common of action movies from everywhere -- being The Seven Samurai. Everyone who uses a sword in that movie uses it to kill, and as a result most sword fights are one or two strokes long. While lacking the acrobatic beauty of a good ten-minute lightsaber duel, it did have a gritty reality that just felt right.

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  19. Re:Hollywood? Not accurate? I'm shocked, SHOCKED! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    Loads of different people are doing similar things - there was even a slashdot story on it in the last year or so. Just google something like "super resolution" or something like resolution+video+enhancement and you should get heaps of good paper links etc. :)

    (Super-resolution will actually pull up several different related things - stuff like increasing apparent resolution of low quality videos (upsampling and the like) as well as the idea given above (using multiple frames of video to track pixel displacement and get a frame of higher resolution than the original video)).

    I found one ask slashdot that deals with the topic: http://ask.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=03/06/19/22 16246
    I'm sure there were others.

  20. Re:no, no they don't... by Tim+C · · Score: 2, Informative

    You get a similar effect, although not as pronounced, on pretty much any specialist technical subject; you see a lot of common misconceptions modded up fairly high, while some actual facts are languishing down at 1 or 2.

  21. Re:Anime hackers by Lumpio- · · Score: 2, Informative

    To be honest, the anime portrayal of computers is way more accurate that in most (if not all) western movies (both animated and non-animated). Western movie makers seem to either be stuck in the green-screen age or seem to think all computers run some über-futuristic 3D-desktop environment with lots of ones and zeros floating around for no apparent reason. In (non-futuristic) anime you usually see a normal desktop ("Mindows" seems to be a common OS), no beeps as a response to every action and often they even get the details correct. If you look carefully you can see the IME and kanji conversion engines working (that's what they use to write Japanese which has about a zillion characters). If you look carefully you can see USB connectors in Chobits and perfectly valid commands to compile a program in Suzumiya Haruhi no Yuuutsu. All in all, if you compare anime and western computer-related movies, western movie makers have no idea :P