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Sea Snail Toxin Offers Promise For Pain

Khyber writes to tell us about research out of Australia that holds out hope for chronic pain sufferers. The toxin of a sea snail, called conotoxin, has a component that has been shown to directly target pain receptors in experimental animals. Unlike essentially all existing pain relievers, conotoxin seems to suppress pain without side effects. Human trials are a year away.

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  1. Toxin...Toxic? by jellomizer · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Isn't a Toxin Toxic to people. Or is it just Toxic to the Snail?

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    1. Re:Toxin...Toxic? by Tyler+Eaves · · Score: 4, Insightful

      It's all in the dosage. *ANYTHING* (even, say oxygen or water) is toxic if given in a high enough dose.

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    2. Re:Toxin...Toxic? by smallfries · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Isn't a Toxin Toxic to people. Or is it just Toxic to the Snail? Another way to look at it is read what the submitter really meant. You often have
      to translate slashdot stories. "Unlike essentially all existing pain relievers,
      conotoxin seems to suppress pain without side effects." really means "Like all
      existing drugs that haven't been through large scale trials, conotoxin appears
      to be free from side-effects. The toxicity is probably dependent on the dose, the
      patient, the length of usage and about a million other (currently) unknown
      factors.
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    3. Re:Toxin...Toxic? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Large dosages of water have been found to cause swimming in laboratory animals.

      (from USENET circa 1985)

    4. Re:Toxin...Toxic? by TranscendentalAnarch · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Actually, it is.  It contains Caffeine, Theobromine, and other chemicals, that with the correct dose can kill you.  Theobromine is actually responsible for the death of dogs and cats that have consumed too much chocolate.  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theobromine

  2. Bitter Irony by susano_otter · · Score: 4, Insightful

    In before "we must halt all industrial and technological advancements, to stop global warming before we lose all these wonderful natural cures!"

    The bitter irony is that it's these very industrial and technological advancements that make the discovery, analysis, synthesis, mass production, and world-wide distribution at affordable prices of this painkiller possible in the first place.

    It's depressing how many people demand the benefits of civilization, without accepting any of its tradeoffs.

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    1. Re:Bitter Irony by Chris+Burke · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I don't think there are actually that many people who say "we must halt all technological development".

      That's usually the hyperbolic strawman of the anti-conservationist who extrapolates spending money on better alternatives to current tech and trying to use less of what we do now (e.g. drive more fuel efficient cars) into some crazy luddite back-to-nature wildlife.

      Personally I think that point of view is retarded. I'm a conservationist and environmentalist because I like the benefits of civilization, and I would like for myself and as many generations of descendents as possible to be able to keep them.

      One of the tradeoffs of civilization is figuring out how to make it sustainable. Our current method is not sustainable. Refusing to change because you want to keep your lifestyle is to guarantee that you lose that lifestyle.

      Anyway, I think slug-slime pain killers are awesome.

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    2. Re:Bitter Irony by rednip · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The bitter irony is that it's these very industrial and technological advancements that make the discovery, analysis, synthesis, mass production, and world-wide distribution at affordable prices of this painkiller possible in the first place.

      So, you think global warming is an advancement. Personally I see it as an accounting issue; hidden costs which some people pass on to other people, in particular future generations. Perhaps the reason why the Northeast is considered so 'liberal' is that one doesn't have to go far to find a brown field. A place of dead earth, unfit for human development, left by some long gone business which was unburdened by environmental regulation. The cleanup of someone else's mess is a continuing burden, both on the treasury, and the health of people who have long ago, if ever, benefited from their creation.

      At one point cities didn't have sewers or trash collection, they just threw their daily waste into the middle of the street. Often the contents of chamber pots would rain down on the pedestrians below, and the rivers became so choked with human and animal filth, that they caused plague, and misery. Eventually cities, and towns raised taxes for sewers, required trash collection, then sanitary sewers, and eventually waste treatment facilities. Today one doesn't think of these things as unnecessary, or too costly, as the benefits of these requirements obviously far outweigh the costs of not having them, yet when the laws were first developed buffoons such as yourself, fought their implementation as being too costly, and unneeded. History has proven those fools wrong, as it will you.

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    3. Re:Bitter Irony by susano_otter · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Here's the thing, though: Life itself demands a lifetime of servitude.

      And the work I do now, to keep body and soul together, not only is it easier than the work I would've had to do without civilization, but my quality of life is better, the scope of leisure activities available to me is greater, and the surplus wealth I have accumulated is greater, than anything our primitive cave-dwelling ancestors ever enjoyed. And that's with The Man exploiting me every day.

      What does your post-apocalyptic Rockefeller Center have to offer me, that's superior to civilization? And if the uncivilized wilderness really has that much to offer, why are you here fondling the Internet, instead of stalking beasts in the Amazon the way Mother Nature intended?

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  3. Re:This should come in handy for anyone that by AndersOSU · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Yeah but morphine, heroine, cocaine, and many, many other drugs have promised pain relief without any side effects. I'm not a doctor, but I'd be surprised if there were ever a drug that didn't have any side effects.

    People are complex intertwined systems, you can almost never change something without unintentionally changing something else.