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Military Tech for Daily Life

PreacherTom writes "It is nothing new to see technology from military and governmental endeavors change daily life profoundly. One only has to look at the fruits of the space program (from computers to microwave ovens to Tang). New military gear is on the horizon that promises to do the same, including biosensors, bandages that clot blood using soundwaves, and the ubiquitous Swiss Army Pen."

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  1. Where is my home flamethrower? by Asshat+Canada · · Score: 3, Funny

    Books don't burn themselves ya know

    1. Re:Where is my home flamethrower? by cashman73 · · Score: 2, Funny
      I thought Yogurt released this years ago when he introduced, "Spaceballs: The Flame Thrower?" After all, the kids really loved that one,... ;-)

  2. Military-tech always trickles down to civilians by Rosco+P.+Coltrane · · Score: 5, Informative

    The obvious examples are the internet, GPS devices, super-glue, etc... (Incidentally, speaking of super-glue, it works very well for what the military originally had in mind for it, which is closing wounds: next time you have a bad cut, try it, it works wonders.)

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    1. Re:Military-tech always trickles down to civilians by jd · · Score: 4, Funny

      Yes yes yes, but what have the Romans ever done for us?

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    2. Re:Military-tech always trickles down to civilians by presentt · · Score: 5, Informative

      No, I think the parent poster is correct. I heard it was first used to close wounds in Vietnam, but was developed for other reasons. See cyanoacrylate, the compound in most super glues.

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    3. Re:Military-tech always trickles down to civilians by twiddlingbits · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Super Glue has the same ingredients are "Tissue Glue" they use after surgery instead of external stitches to close the skin. Using Tissue glue seems to help minimize the scars. I've also used it on my dogs to glue a wound together (small wound) and save a trip to the vet for stitches. Just using SuperGlue out of the tube could be risky as it may not be sterile and you could get a nasty infection, thats the only downside. The glue that is used to attach artifical fingernails is the same as SuperGlue so if you have some of that, it IS Sterile.

    4. Re:Military-tech always trickles down to civilians by theshowmecanuck · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I know a lot of guitarists use it to fix a split fingernail or a hangnail. It works well. Slap a bunch on to an inflamed hangnail or a cut and you can play painless in no time. Just remember to wait a few minutes till it is really dry or you'll be bending that note all night.

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    5. Re:Military-tech always trickles down to civilians by humuhumunukunukuapu' · · Score: 4, Informative
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    6. Re:Military-tech always trickles down to civilians by twiddlingbits · · Score: 2, Informative

      Cyanoacrylate is the active ingredient, the organic solvents are just carriers and agents to speed up or retard the time for the glue to set. I KNOW the results are the same, I've done it with SG and the Fingernail glue.

    7. Re:Military-tech always trickles down to civilians by suv4x4 · · Score: 4, Funny

      It hurted like pain

      Nice, another gem from the "don't post while still sleeping department"

    8. Re:Military-tech always trickles down to civilians by kfg · · Score: 4, Informative

      The obvious examples are. . .

      Are often wrong, at least when attributed to the space program. Take Tang, for instance. I was born before Sputnik, but I drank Tang as a child. It is the product of General Foods, invented by the same man who brought us Cool Whip and Pop Rocks (died, 2004). The motivation for inventing all of these was purely civilian profit.

      Other things that didn't come out of the space program, Velcro (invented by a Frenchman picking burrs off his dog, circa 1940) and Teflon (invented at Dupont in 1938 while researching refrigeration units).

      Electronic computers got a kick in the pants from the Manhatten Project (not the space program), but this came mainly in the form of money and a deadline for machines already in development for use in civilian business (it's IBM, afterall).

      Gunpowder, invented for toys (like rockets). High explosives, invented for civilian tunneling/mining operations.

      For the most part (there are exceptions) the military takes preexisting civilian technology and spurs its development a bit by adding funding and pressure. We'd still have the stuff without it, it would just take a little longer for the market to provide the capital. They actually refused funding for the development of the automobile and airplane. Even guns have mostly been developed purely in the private sector in the hopes of selling them to the military at some later date. Napoleon and Thomas Jefferson were big players in providing actual government funding to spur the development of existing gun technologies, creating the market for inventing on speculation.

      Overall, prizes are often the most effective means the military uses to spur development. Civilians will spend their entire lives inventing to collect a prize of lower value than they simply could have made working in an office somewhere; without all the capital outlay - but inventors aren't that sort of person, are they?

      The military/space program is a good customer, but only rarely do anything directly and it's even rarer for them to prompt the discovery of something we wouldn't have gotten in time anyway.

      Maybe the microwave oven (invented by accident while working on radar) - maybe.

      They have certainly provided a good practicum for accelerated development of treatments/surguries of catastrophic injuries though; ya gotta hand it to the military for that.

      KFG

    9. Re:Military-tech always trickles down to civilians by Fred_A · · Score: 4, Informative
      Velcro (invented by a Frenchman picking burrs off his dog, circa 1940)
      A Swiss actually, although the industrial design was indeed made with a French weaver. Did you know that Velcro stood for velours et crochets (velvet and hooks) ?
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    10. Re:Military-tech always trickles down to civilians by kfg · · Score: 2

      Hey, if he spoke French, he was a Frenchman.

      And we want Flanders back, dammit, it's ours. And Navarre; and Aragon; and the Sudetenland, no, wait, oooooooooh nevermind, we'll take that too. We can teach them French. Ave Carolus Magnus!

      Those people who warned you that the metric system was a plot? Well, they were right!

      KFG

    11. Re:Military-tech always trickles down to civilians by mr_mischief · · Score: 2, Insightful

      You mean besides sanitation? And roads? And the aquaduct? ;-)

  3. Swiss Army Pen by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 2, Funny

    That would be a laser to cut through doors, a satellite dish and viewscreen for watching the news, and a blade for slicing and dicing out of the most difficult situations. But does it still write?

    1. Re:Swiss Army Pen by jpardey · · Score: 2, Funny

      That would be an improvement over the Swiss Army Knife. I don't think I have ever cut much of anything with one of those.

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    2. Re:Swiss Army Pen by cashman73 · · Score: 2, Funny
      When I saw this, the first thing I thought was, "when will ThinkGeek stock it? ;-)

    3. Re:Swiss Army Pen by bladesjester · · Score: 3, Informative

      Only the cheaply made ones are pieces of crap. I had a well made Vic that I used heavily for years. They made them to be useful instead of having a bunch of things on it (mine only had a blade, small and large screw drivers, punch, can opener, and bottle opener).

      As a general rule, your best bets in my experience for swiss army knives are Victrinox and Gerber.

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    4. Re:Swiss Army Pen by bladesjester · · Score: 2, Funny

      I actually found mine when I was hiking one day, and carried it pretty much every day since up until a few years ago. I still have it. I just sort of retired it because the other knife that I started carrying fit my needs better at that point.

      I've taken it over many hundreds of miles of hiking and more campsites that I can remember.

      The blade held a decent edge, and the screwdrivers were extremely useful. It also had one of the best can openers on it that I've seen.

      As far as weapon status here goes, you can carry pretty much any non-concealed non firearm where I am. Though I will admit that the sword gets a bit of a weird look from the local constabulary when I go to train at the lake.

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  4. Re:Clotthes will call for help in a health emergen by Rosco+P.+Coltrane · · Score: 2, Funny

    When being mugged, I envision something that sprays a liquid into the air that binds with the breath of your assailant and captures some of his DNA. The chemical is flourescent and can be swabbed off the floor.

    Just remember not to breathe yourself until the forensics arrive to avoir contaminating the sample...

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  5. QuikClot by GigsVT · · Score: 5, Interesting

    You can get some of that military technology today, and it's not vaporware... Quikclot powder, comes in a packet designed to be large enough to quickly stop the bleeding from a severed femoral artery.

    Useful stuff, stops bleeding very quickly. Expensive as hell though.

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    1. Re:QuikClot by twiddlingbits · · Score: 4, Informative

      Not that expensive compared with bleeding out. I'd gladly pay a few 100 bucks to live but fortunately it's not that expensive. Check out the prices on QuickClot at: http://www.z-medica.com/ordering/ordering.asp

    2. Re:QuikClot by crowbarsarefornerdyg · · Score: 4, Informative

      My EMS agency allowed us a trial run of the QuikClot, and you're right. It's amazing, especially on oozing wounds. The other device to come from the military is the Asherman Chest Seal, which is a one way valve with a large sticky surface for sucking chest wounds.

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    3. Re:QuikClot by crowbarsarefornerdyg · · Score: 2, Informative
      It is amazing to see in action. Works a hell of a lot better than tampons, too. The price is obviously worth it, but the damage done to the limb is pretty ugly too. Do you know of anyone keeping a limb after using quickclot? Also, there's a great splint that's basically a thin sheet of metal wrapped in foam, but I can't remember the name of it. Was that military in origin?
      You're thinking of the SAM Splint. Good tool, when you can get them.
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  6. Re:Clotthes will call for help in a health emergen by GigsVT · · Score: 3, Funny

    They make this device that projects a lump of solid metal (usually lead). It's quite effective at stopping a mugging. You should try it sometime.

    (Police don't give a shit about catching some mugger. Do you really think they want a DNA sample?)

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  7. which raises the question... by User+956 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    New military gear is on the horizon that promises to do the same, including biosensors, bandages that clot blood using soundwaves

    Ok, since they have a bandage that clots blood using soundwaves, you can pretty much guess that they have a weapon that clots blood using soundwaves. Which is pretty fucking scary.

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    1. Re:which raises the question... by Guinness+Pig · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Okay, let's not get carried away with paranoia about what the military is capable of. Do you really think they need to create something to send concentrated ultrasonic waves to cause a lethal blood clot? What, are you expecting Corollas with big ass woofers blaring Ludacris to make an appearance on the battlefield? They don't need to make blood clots to kill people. Perfectly mundane things like bullets, missiles and various projectile explosives work perfectly fine to mess up someone's day. I spent six years in the military, and you give them far too much credit. They ain't that clever.

    2. Re:which raises the question... by dingDaShan · · Score: 5, Funny

      Our secret blood clot weapon has been slowly invading other countries. A few years back they just opened one in China. I'm lovin it

    3. Re:which raises the question... by KillerBob · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I draw your attention to the big yellow arrow on rocket launchers that you point at the enemy?

      We get some pretty cool toys in the army, but it's all designed so that you can use it when you're being shot at after having had 15 minutes of sleep in the last week. Just because it's designed for idiots doesn't mean that the folks designing it are idiots. Actually, they're pretty brilliant, IMO... why bother developing a super-expensive way to kill somebody that centralizes your killing power in one spot when a 5.56x45 FMJ round costs less than $0.30 and kills them just as dead? When the bad guys develop armour that can safely protect them from everything we use on the battlefield, you'll start seeing new ways of killing people being developed. Until then, it's a waste of money.

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    4. Re:which raises the question... by networkBoy · · Score: 3, Insightful

      you are obviously not an acoustical engineer...
      not even an advanced amateur.

      Example:
      Take an untrasound of a pregnant woman, pretty cool. move the transducer 1mm away from her abdomen, nothing.
      This cuff works basically the same way. A weapon would have to work in a predominately similar way.
      -nB

      Oh, and even if it would work all cool like you speculate, you'd still need to aim it, else the freindly fire aspect will *suck*.

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    5. Re:which raises the question... by Fred_A · · Score: 2
      Actually, the 5.56x45, as well as its 5.45x39 Soviet counterpart, is designed to wound more than it is to kill.
      Wounds remove more people from battle than do kills.


      The fact that wounded personnel ties up more people wasn't the deciding factor, merely a "lucky" side effect. Jacketed projectiles were made mandatory in armies after the Hague convention (1899) because of the horrific wounds inflicted by the creative ammunition in use at the time. Whether the objective is still valid with the modern high velocity lightweight projectiles (which can, and regularly do, fragment) is debatable. But the rule is still enforced to this day.
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    6. Re:which raises the question... by ofcourseyouare · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Yes, because by simply spending enough money you can repeal the laws of physics.
      Well, that was the theory behind the Strategic Defense Initiative, wasn't it? ; )

  8. I need these by Martin+Blank · · Score: 4, Funny

    I need all of these.

    I'll tie my smartshirt (worn under the bodysuit made of liquid body armor) into the HUD on the powered exoskeleton, which I can use to assist a long and high launch of my micro spy planes as I wait for resupply by my GT Max Mini Helicopter. When I have picked out my target, I'll glide in (again wearing liquid body armor) using my Gryphon flying wing, pick off the guards using my Cornershot rifle, rescue the hostage using my Swiss Army Pen, slap an ultrasonic bandage over his wounds, and then...

    Erm...

    OK, I'm out of gadgets. Someone wanna find me a personal rocket pack capable of carrying two?

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  9. Damn, this irritates me by $RANDOMLUSER · · Score: 3, Informative

    The "Powered Exoskeleton: The real bionic man" entry brought to you by none other than Robert A. Heinlein, the inventor of the Waldo, the waterbed and I don't know what else...

    The main thing that was missing from Paul Verhoeven's Starship Troopers was the powered exoskeletons, courtesy R.A.H., circa 1959. Not that I didn't adore the "Doogie Howser, S.S.", "Klendathu 90210" aspects of the film, but the only really good example of the notion we've had in film is Ripley's "Get away from her, you bitch!" from Aliens.

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  10. Microwave ovens are from WWII radar by iliketrash · · Score: 5, Informative

    "One only has to look at the fruits of the space program (from computers to microwave ovens to Tang)."

    Presumably the author refers the the tube in a microwave oven called a magnetron. If so, then this was developed in World War II for use in radars. Incidentally, the invention of the transistor was a direct follow-on to WWII efforts to build crystal detectors. See the book, "The Invention that Changed the World" by Robert Buderi, a history of the development and aftermath of the invention of radar. It is said that the atomic bomb ended the war but radar won the war.

  11. Bullet-Resistant vests: by Upaut · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Man, I hope this trickles down (Affordably) to the masses. Anything that hardens on impact would be great for those of us that attend protests. Its not so much the bullets and stabbing that worries me, but the savage beatings that we recieve. Though having protection is good when some rookie decides to fire rubber bullets into the crowd. Hasn't happened to me yet, but with how peacful protesters are being treated, its only a matter of time.

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  12. Hmm, should have looked further into that... by presentt · · Score: 2, Informative

    I searched "powered exoskeleton" on YouTube and found this project from Berkley. I guess, if this is what the article was talking about, then the device would serve as more of a weight supporter than a strengthening tool. It also seems a bit too sluggish to execute a rapid maneuver like jumping, despite the BBC article in TFA claiming higher leaps is a goal. Would it end up hindering a troop in combat, considering the rapidity needed to move in today's guerrilla and urban warfare?

    On the other hand, the video shows the man wearing a huge backpack. As a backpacker myself, I know that the best way to carry the weight is on your hips, so that your leg muscles bear the load. This exoskeleton seems well fit for bearing that load; the man in the video looks like he is hardly straining.

    The technology looks like it may be ready for work on bases, but is hardly ready for the front line. The BBC article points out more limitations.

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  13. Re:How does that work? by jd · · Score: 2, Insightful
    Often when you hear people talk about device X increasing the power of something, they are really not talking about power at all. Power (as in energy x time) is not something you'd really have a whole lot of control over unless you did have a horribly large, heavy, vulnerable, probably highly explosive power source strapped on.


    More effective use of power for the purpose intended is something you see virtually everywhere - gears, levers, springs, virtually all mechanical devices that have ever existed are all simply ways of putting in the same amount but utilizing it better. I imagine the exoskeletal armor is no different - it might conserve energy that you'd otherwise lose, reducing the impact of varying speed or incline. If it's really good, it might be able to convert some of the energy it absorbs from impacts into energy available for you to use. It might eliminate variations in ground level, reducing the effort involved in moving over rough terrain. But really there's not much more it can do than that.


    (Well, if the US military has got Tesla's theories to work, I guess they could power the suit remotely, so eliminating the need for portable power. On the other hand, if they were at that point, they really wouldn't need exoskeletal armor - or indeed soldiers. You'd just hook a Tesla coil to a microwave fillament and boil your opponents from long range.)

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  14. What about my lawn? by st0rmshad0w · · Score: 4, Funny

    What about something to keep those damn kids off my lawn?

    1. Re:What about my lawn? by rk · · Score: 3, Funny

      Ask... and ye shall receive.

  15. part of this program already cut- landwarrior by docinthemachine · · Score: 5, Informative

    Several of these technologies are part of the FCS (future combat system) including the soldier of the future - Landwarrior program. However the government has just cut this program. You can read more about it -- and all of the future medical devices lost in the shuffle-- here: http://docinthemachine.com/2006/12/08/army-axing-h igh-tech-soldier-of-tomorrow-medtech-losses-predic ted/

  16. Re:The space program did not bring us computers by localroger · · Score: 2, Informative

    This is mostly true. Wartime needs for cryptography, ballistics table calculations, and early hydrogen bomb design drove the earliest computers. The space program did have a lot to do with early miniaturization attempts though; the Apollo program sucked much of the world's supply of integrated circuits in its early years.

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  17. Strange Title For Underwear by StikyPad · · Score: 3, Funny

    Shear Thickening Fluid (STF) is a liquid armor that turns extremely hard and spreads itself out when punctured or struck with a high-velocity object, such as a bullet.

    Making it only a matter of time before the phrase "Gear up" is replaced by "STF up!"

  18. Libertarian countdown... by GodfatherofSoul · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Waiting for the ideologue posts about how big government spending can never do any good, and never any better than private industry...

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  19. Microwave ovens??? by flyingfsck · · Score: 3, Informative

    Magnetrons were invented before the 2nd world war and perfected during the war by the Brits for use in Radar. No space program back then - not on this planet anyway.

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  20. the good side of military spending by 2ms · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The good side of military spending is that, other than during times of war, the fraction of the money that goes to the military for having troops around and building few hundred tanks every once in a while is tiny compared to the amount of money that goes toward science, research, technology. For every troop that is getting paid to be on base, the military is probably putting food on the tables of 30 researchers or engineers to develop new technologies. For example, lets say the military gets a new model of tank. Well, the cost of actual steel, plastic, computer chips, etc that constitute the tanks that are produced themselves are really nothing compared to the amount of money that went into advancing technologies and employing engineers. A B2 bomber costs a couple billion because incredible science and technology had to be realized in order to make the plane possible. Like 20 of them or something were ever to be actually made. That price doesn't reflect the sum of the physical components and labor of assembling them, but rather, the price tag reflects the amount of engineering and science work that had to be done to realize the level of technology necessary for the existence of such a plane.

    The bright side of military spending is that most of that money basically goes to putting food on the tables of tens of thousands of engineers in our country. With labor costs so high and manufacturing going to everywhere in the world other than our own country, technology is our stock-in-trade. As it turns out, the structure of the govt sponsoring military technology programs with a long-term and unified approach in contrast to the much more duplicative and reactive, smaller investments for shorter-term results, approach seen in the development of technology only in the hands of individual companies reacting to market pressures method, has been very fruitful indeed.

    1. Re:the good side of military spending by bagsc · · Score: 2, Informative

      Personnel still get most of the money.
      "The nearly $440 billion defense budget contains $110.8 billion for military personnel, including a modest 2.2 percent pay increase, as well as $84.2 billion for weapons systems and $73.2 billion for research and development."

      Considering how little soldiers get paid (starting at $1,204 per month), and how much engineers get paid (~$3,500 per month starting), you start wondering who the Defense Department's priorities are...

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    2. Re:the good side of military spending by 2short · · Score: 4, Interesting

      "For every troop that is getting paid to be on base, the military is probably putting food on the tables of 30 researchers or engineers to develop new technologies"

      Active troop strength is something like 1.5 million, so by your estimate that's 45 million researchers bettering the world on the militaries dime. Almost 1 in 6 Americans are military funded scientists! Wow, I had no idea.

      You'll forgive me if I take the rest of your rosy assesment with a little grain of salt?

    3. Re:the good side of military spending by Profound · · Score: 2, Insightful

      But what about all of the cool things we miss out on that those "tens of thousands of engineers" could make or invent if they weren't coming up with new ways to kill people?

    4. Re:the good side of military spending by Jah-Wren+Ryel · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Considering how little soldiers get paid (starting at $1,204 per month), and how much engineers get paid (~$3,500 per month starting), you start wondering who the Defense Department's priorities are...

      Most of my clients are defense contractors, which, I guess makes me a defense contractor. Anyway, around this time of year they like to put on a show of doing donation-drives "for the troops." They tend to fall into two categories - getting "comfort items" (like tons of instant coffee and phone card minutes to call home with) for troops in the field and getting necessities (like food and children's clothing) for their families at home.

      Its blatantly obvious that management at these companies is doing the drives to appear patriotic and weasel into the good graces of their customer, so blatant that I can't believe it works. But even worse, to me it seems like a terrible state of affairs because it is tantamount to saying that our government can't provision our troops with something as basic as enough coffee and they don't pay our troops enough to feed and clothe their families.

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  21. Why DARPA Does What Medical Industry Won't by docinthemachine · · Score: 3, Informative

    There is so much argument about whether the civilian pay-off from military research makes sense. Here is a bit of research on the medical end and some reasons why private industry does not take the risks DARPA does. http://docinthemachine.com/2006/12/21/darpamedtech /

  22. Re:But wouldn't it be nice by Dun+Malg · · Score: 3, Insightful

    ...if they could do the same thing without the whole "killing" part?

    I read something about how wonderful the advancements in prosthetics the past few years have been. I even saw a kid of 20 or 22 at the airport carrying a big green duffle bag unassisted, though he had artificial legs and a prosthetic arm and the unmistakable look of a soldier.

    Just spend the money. Declare it to be a National Technological Development Something-or-other and so and spend the money on research that doesn't come at such a high cost.

    Honestly, that shit is heartbreaking.
    The money gets spent on research whether there's a war on or not. The difference is that war provides real-life test cases to advance and refine things beyond the theoretical. War is the dark cloud, advancements in prosthetics and lifesaving technology are the silver lining. Progress in handling unpleasant things like dismemberment comes from experience handling unpleasant things like dismemberment. Like it or not, humans are vicious. We always have been. You don't get to the top of the food chain by being a a bunch of happy fluffy bunnies.
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  23. Call me... by gmby · · Score: 2, Funny

    when I can have a Sonic Screwdriver!

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  24. Re:DNA can be isolated individually by bhiestand · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Besides, even if it did work, what the fuck are the cops going to do with a DNA sample? Look it up in that secret DNA file the Men in Black have compiled on every person in the world? Yes. Everybody who's ever joined the military or been arrested has DNA on file. Everybody who had a parent who cared enough to do so has their hand and footprints (and likely DNA at this point) registered with the FBI (in case the kids go missing). I'm sure the new database they're building already has some fields for something along the lines of a DNA hash. We're getting pretty damned close to having that database already.
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  25. Re:Microwave ovens were patented in 8 October 1945 by kfg · · Score: 2, Insightful

    ...which is a bit early to be a space program spin-off.

    Yes. I did not make it terribly clear when I was talking about the space age stuff and just plain old military stuff.

    Much of what we think of as space age stuff is really air age stuff, circa WWII, most of which was at least already on the drawing boards before WWII.

    You can tell the true space age stuff by its use of, well, space, and its use semiconductors (a civilian invention) to make it possible/practical. A "portable" radio used to be the size of a microwave oven and had no memory.

    KFG

  26. Tang by timster121 · · Score: 2, Funny

    Whats the difference between the Chinese space program and the US space program?

    On a Chinese space shuttle, Tang is an astronaut.