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First Cellphone Use On Airplane Given OK

s31523 writes "With over 1 billion cell phone users worldwide, and with so many business travelers, using the cell phone on the airplane has been a recent hot topic. Emirate airlines is announcing they will give the OK for cell phone use on their planes, making them the first airline to do so. The FCC and FAA still ban the use, but are working to determine safety implications, if any."

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  1. Anybody Try to use one on a plane? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Tough to keep a signal at 500 kts and 36000 ft.

    1. Re:Anybody Try to use one on a plane? by Adult+film+producer · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Tough to keep a signal at 500 kts and 36000 ft.

      Shouldn't be a problem, all the people hijacked on 9/11 were making calls with their cellphones, wasn't a problem for them.

  2. To those confused by MindStalker · · Score: 5, Insightful

    To those confused, the real problem with cell phone use on airplanes is that you are traveling so fast that you are switching towers once every minute or so. One person is fine, millions doing it (which is what would happen if legal) would be a HUGE strain on cell phone networks. Airlines are installing cellphone tower equipment into their plane to eliminate this problem.

    That is all class.

    1. Re:To those confused by fdrebin · · Score: 5, Insightful
      The other problem will be ME going postal when the impolite person sitting next to me yaks and yaks for 5 hours straight on a flight.

      OK, I won't have a firearm, but I am large, strong, and will have become extremely psychotic.

      /F

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    2. Re:To those confused by fdrebin · · Score: 2, Insightful
      To quote Yoda:

      "If yakking on his phone for 5 hours he is, yak at you for 5 hours he will not."

      To quote Frankie Vallie:

      "Silence Is Golden".

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    3. Re:To those confused by Vengeance_au · · Score: 2, Insightful
      The other problem will be ME going postal when the impolite person sitting next to me yaks and yaks for 5 hours straight on a flight.
      Amen to that - I've done a number of bus trips up and down the east coast of Australia, and you always get some jackass who talk at top volume on their mobiles for hours. Worse is 2 or more people, competing to talk over their neighbour as they infer that what they hear is what the person on the end of the mobile hears. Absolutely frustrating, and thats just in a cabin with 38 people in it. Same experiment in cattle class in a 747-600.... I'm guessing "air rage" will take a spike. Going to make it tough for the air marshalls - is that person a terrorist, or are they just pissed at having to listen to aunt Marie talk about her grandkids?

      That being said, anyone doing work on a Maxwell Smart style cone of silence? I'm keen to buy shares :-)
    4. Re:To those confused by Bassman59 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      going postal when the impolite person sitting next to me yaks and yaks for 5 hours straight

      Your only defense will be noise-cancelling earphones. It's not clear whether society has figured out all the rules of propriety when using a cell phone.

      Noise-canceling headphones only work with steady-state noise, such as the low drone of the aircraft as it flies. It can't do squat about someone's voice.

  3. Keep the ban for the sake of quiet by Retired+Replicant · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I don't care if they determine that there is no need to ban cellphones because of interference with plane electronics -- I'd still rather the ban is kept anyway in order to keep flights from turning into cacophonous gab-fests. Flights are already uncomfortable and headache-inducing anyway...lets not make them noisy as well.

  4. Just fucking great by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Just what we need.

    Some loudmouth cell phone usage by some self-absorbed jackass while packed like sardines into a tin can for 6 hours.

  5. Re:Considering the way. . . by TheRaven64 · · Score: 3, Insightful
    You will be communicating with via a cell inside the plane. This leaves you with two choices:
    1. Pay a huge premium for the privilege of using the plane's cell, or
    2. Pay a huge premium for using the phone installed in your seat.
    Either way, it's likely to be so expensive that only real idiots would use it just to say "Hello! I'm on the plane!" I've flown quite a lot this year, and I don't think anyone used the in-seat phones on any flight I was on.
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  6. Bring back separate sections... by LGV · · Score: 3, Insightful

    ...only this time instead of smoking/non-smoking, we need cell phone and non-cell phone sections. Or better yet, talking and no talking sections.

  7. Earplugs won't work... by MS-06FZ · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Earplugs are good at muffling excessively loud sounds, particularly keeping them from damaging your ears. But you can still hear them.

    People need to make two changes to their behavior in order to resolve this:
    1: Be conscious of what effect your cell phone conversations, etc. are having on others, and be reasonable. Be courteous to them, and maybe don't talk on your phone in a crowded space.
    2: If someone else is annoying you, confront them about it, but be polite. Getting them angry won't solve the problem, it'll make it worse. Sitting around being grouchy about it also won't solve the problem.

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    1. Re:Earplugs won't work... by Admiral+Ag · · Score: 3, Insightful

      The problem with this is the sheer number of selfish assholes in the world. It's bad enough on trains, but being stuck on a long haul flight with these bastards would be too much.

      I would never dream of holding a loud phone conversation in a quiet restaurant, or recklessly endangering people by using one while driving, or holding up a store queue by answering my phone while at a counter, or leaving the ringer on during a symphony or an exam because "my calls are important".

      Yet I have seen all these things happen over and over again. The worst thing is that the people who do them have such a sense of entitlement that they believe they are doing nothing wrong, and that you are an asshole for objecting to their sociopathic behaviour.

      I want to start a new political movement. Every time someone does something like this, you take their phone and smash it. Violence against the people who do it is also fully justified.

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  8. Re:re EM interference by jrockway · · Score: 2, Insightful

    You trust the Mythbusters? They do stunts for movies, not actual science.

    Here's an article from the IEEE Spectrum: http://www.spectrum.ieee.org/mar06/3069.

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  9. Lying airlines (Anybody Try to use one ...) by mi · · Score: 2, Insightful
    Tough to keep a signal at 500 kts and 36000 ft.

    These concerns are between the cell-phone users and their service-providers. Governments and airlines need not interfere. The etiquette (or lack thereof) of chatting for hours is similar.

    Airlines and the governments have been lying through their teethes to us on this and other matters for a long time... It is good thing, someone is finally breaking ranks:

    Please switch off all mobile phones, since they can interfere with the aircraft's navigation systems. At least, that's what you've always been told. The real reason to switch them off is because they interfere with mobile networks on the ground, but somehow that doesn't sound quite so good. On most flights a few mobile phones are left on by mistake, so if they were really dangerous we would not allow them on board at all, if you think about it. We will have to come clean about this next year, when we introduce in-flight calling across the Veritas fleet. At that point the prospect of taking a cut of the sky-high calling charges will miraculously cause our safety concerns about mobile phones to evaporate.
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  10. Re:Mother#$%^ing cellphones on a Mother#$%^ing pla by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    The problem already exists in the form of passengers talking to other passengers. I'm sure the solution to that one ("Excuse me, I'm really tired and I'd like to get some sleep, can you keep it down please?") will work fine for the cell phone users too. If you're too timid to speak up, don't blame the guy who doesn't even know you're bothered.