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Penguins Disappearing From Southern Hemisphere

The Scotsman is running a piece looking at the mysterious disappearance of penguins from all around the world. A biologist who studies the rockhopper penguin characterizes the population crash as 'sinister', as scientists are still baffled as to why almost 30% of the birds have vanished. From the article: "Grant Munro, the director of Falklands Conservation, said there were fears that rockhoppers might become extinct. 'If the present situation were to carry on then it's not a particularly great forecast. It doesn't look like they are suddenly going to start increasing in numbers ... In the Falklands, they are part of everyday life. If you head down to the beach you are going to see penguins.'"

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  1. Microsoft is behind of this by dvice_null · · Score: 4, Funny

    > Penguins Disappearing From Southern Hemisphere

    Microsoft must be behind of all of this. Who else would like to see cute little penguins to disappear from the world.

  2. I think they could be heard saying... by MrPerfekt · · Score: 3, Funny

    So long... and thanks for all the fish!

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  3. Just to get us started by swatward · · Score: 3, Funny

    I felt a great disturbance in the [NOUN] , as if [AMOUNT] of [NOUN]'s suddenly [VERB] out in terror and were suddenly silenced.

  4. And Tango Makes Three by cfeedback · · Score: 4, Funny

    Obviously too many penguins have been reading this book...

  5. This is only news because they're cute. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    If Penguins were featherless, covered in oozing mucous, constantly moaned in pain and had soulless empty sockets where their eyes should be we wouldn't care if they disappeared from the earth or not.

    1. Re:This is only news because they're cute. by eric.t.f.bat · · Score: 4, Funny

      Yeah - cos then they'd be the Microsoft mascot instead.

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    2. Re:This is only news because they're cute. by venicebeach · · Score: 5, Insightful
      If Penguins were featherless, covered in oozing mucous, constantly moaned in pain and had soulless empty sockets where their eyes should be we wouldn't care if they disappeared from the earth or not.
      Thus the selective advantage of "cuteness". It the same mechanism used by our young to ensure we want to take care of them.
  6. So long by lemnik · · Score: 2, Funny

    This would make more sense if it were dolphins!

  7. Penguins disappear from Southern Hemisphere ... by ErixTr · · Score: 2, Funny

    and they will appear on the desktops all over the world!

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  8. Sorry, but this is going to make me rich. by Lord+Kano · · Score: 4, Funny

    My new company KFP is going to put KFC out of business. I was just hoping that no one would notice the population drop until I was ready to go international.

    Fuck a chicken wing, penguin wings is the future.

    LK

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  9. BULLSHIT! by Lord+Kano · · Score: 2, Funny

    Penguins are not just cute. They're delicious too.

    LK

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    1. Re:BULLSHIT! by bmo · · Score: 2, Interesting
      "Penguins are not just cute. They're delicious too."

      It was at this time that Dr. Cook assumed moral command of the BELGICA. De Gerlache and Amundsen were busy with the details of preparing the ship to break free of the ice while Cook realized that the mood of the shipmates would become his responsibility. Cook knew the men needed sunlight and fresh meat. De Gerlache had already tasted penguin and seal meat and declared them both to be inedible. As for penguin meat, Dr. Cook said "If it's possible to imagine a piece of beef, odiferous cod fish and a canvas-backed duck roasted together in a pot, with blood and cod-liver oil for sauce, the illustration would be complete". In order to convince the crew it was necessary for medicinal purposes, de Gerlache unwillingly agreed to "ignore the taste; swallow it down as a duty".


      http://www.south-pole.com/p0000083.htm

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    2. Re:BULLSHIT! by x2A · · Score: 2, Funny

      "Just because his name was cook,didn't mean he had culinary talent"

      No, it's because his name was Dr Cook, duh. You don't become a Dr without cooking a penguin or two ya know.

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  10. Penguins only come from the Southern Hemisphere by stevo3232 · · Score: 3, Informative

    From wikipedia: "Penguins (order Sphenisciformes, family Spheniscidae) are an order of aquatic, flightless birds living exclusively in the Southern Hemisphere."

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  11. The real reason.... by GoulDuck · · Score: 5, Funny

    Just like the T-Rex, the reason they disappear is because they can't break their fall. No arms, no way to save them self. Well, the T-Rex had arms, but they where to short to do any difference.

  12. Counting methods... by advocate_one · · Score: 2, Insightful

    they are wondrously imprecise... barring actually going everywhere and penning them all and then counting them out of the pens, you could say anything you like about the total numbers...

    just think of all the fudge factors they use as it is... x% assumed to be underwater catching fish, we've only counted them here and we'll assume things are the same over there...

    the only thing you can say with certainty is that the scientists are earnestly trying to count them and they haven't found as many of them as previous guesstimation figured there would be

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  13. Food Chain by Detritus · · Score: 4, Insightful

    What about the food chain? Is commercial fishing by humans affecting the penguin's food supply? Overfishing can have unanticipated effects on other species.

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    1. Re:Food Chain by orkysoft · · Score: 2, Insightful

      How would that be unanticipated?

      Species P has fish as its main food source.
      Species H comes along and catches nearly all the fish.
      Species P has a problem getting enough food, and diminishes in number.

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  14. Range of Penguin Species by RotateLeftByte · · Score: 2, Informative

    There are several species of Penuin that NEVER get anyway near the Antartic Ice Cap.
    You can see Penguins in Chile, Argentina, Namibia, South Africa and the Falklands to name just a few places. Oh, I forgot those nice islands near the Equator called the Galapagos.

    It is more likely that over fishing is the cause of the decline of the Rockhoppers in the Falklands. If there is no suitable food supply then the population will crash.

    An alternative theory could be that this is cyclical variation in population just like Lemmings.

    At the moment, it is too early to say.
    Anyway, I'm off to the Falklands next month and hope to see some live TUX.

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  15. Close but no cigar by OriginalArlen · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I heard this chap interviewed on the Today programme yesterday morning. He put great emphasis on pointing out that it's only the Rockhoppers that have declined: the Gentoo and Emperor penguin species seem to be unaffected by whatever's causing this. Readers in the UK running Windows legacy systems can watch the related TV story here. Hmmm, and there's a story here from 2002.

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    1. Re:Close but no cigar by a_karbon_devel_005 · · Score: 2, Informative

      The 2002 report has a less sensationalist headline and content, good find. (as well as not having a headline claiming "millions" dead and then detailing the 180 thousand dead.)

      It's pretty clear scientists have no idea why this is happening, but everyone loves to say "global warming" with little to no evidence, and this is no different.

      The gist of these articles is that similar to bears hibernating, these penguins molt and cannot swim anymore for short periods. Prior to this, they must fatten themselves up and when that doesn't happen, they can starve.

      The same factors that spell a bad year for fishing in these areas can also spell starvation for these animals. Obviously, some argue that the fishing itself is a contributing factor, but environmental issues like currents seems to be the larger issue. If it was entirely tied to climate, you wouldn't see spikes in the deaths of these birds as noted in 1986, 2002, this year, etc. Also, we have very little data on earlier years, apparently.

  16. Here's the culprits... by advocate_one · · Score: 5, Interesting

    the bl00dy great fishing fleets hoovering up the fish... and there's a whole sorry saga here... corrupt officials effectively condoning it.

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  17. I call bullshit by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Almost every species that thrives in its environment does so because it's reached an equilibrium with that environment. Change that environment, you start adding or eliminating vegetation, adding or eliminating predators, adding or eliminating their animal food supplies, etc. Never mind fucking up their mating, nesting, or hibernating patterns, or forcing them to adapt to new temperatures that conflict with what their bodies have evolved to be comfortable with.

    I said "almost" above because there is one species that isn't content to thrive in its environment, but must constantly meddle with it and fuck it up. And that's our species, and that's because we're smart enough to create things that have awful biproducts, but stupid enough to believe those getting rich off the process that everything's going fine... just fine.

    Tell that to the disappearing penguins. Tell that to the drowning polar bears. Tell that to extinct dolphins. Tell that to the Siberians who are getting more bear sightings than usual because it's too warm for hibernation.

    Tell that to your GRANDCHILDREN. It used to be the older generation's fault for allowing this to happen. Now it's ours for not stepping up and showing the courage to take the drastic changes necessary to stop it.

  18. Murder, not global warming by driptray · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Don't blame global warming - the real culprit is thugs with knives: Penguins killed in sickening beach attack

    1. Re:Murder, not global warming by Snarfangel · · Score: 4, Funny

      It was murder most fowl.

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  19. The penguins are coming! by October_30th · · Score: 3, Funny
    You fools! Don't you realize what this means? It's the great penguin conspiracy!


    They've been honing their plan for total world domination for years while lulling people into a false sense of security by appearing cute and harmless cratures who just want to fish and frolic. Well, their plans are now complete and what appears as a mysterious disappearance of penguins is simply the beginning of the great penguin war.

    They are assembling an invincible penguin army deep in the secret caves under Antarctica. That's where all the penguins went.

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  20. Re:Right by rvw · · Score: 2, Insightful

    They aren't people, they're animals.

    The animals aren't the problem here, the people are. So let's just call them "people", not "animals".

  21. Penguins are for life... by gavint · · Score: 2, Funny

    Penguins are for life guys, not just for Christmas. Make sure the person you're giving one to really wants a penguin, and has the time to care for one.

  22. Penguins are not going extinct by commodoresloat · · Score: 2, Funny

    They are just going into hiding. They have a secret lair under the ice where they will wait out global warming, patiently sharpening their tools, for they know that when the icecaps melt and humanity is thrown into chaos, that's when their day will come.

    And I, for one, will welcome our Eudyptulan overlords!

  23. Re:Lets not jump to conclusions by rhavenn · · Score: 2, Informative

    Global warming and cooling HAS happened over the eons. However, it naturally takes centuries to occur and animals have to time to let natural selection take its course. Man-made global warming is happening in the span of a human lifetime which is far, far faster then most species can adapt, especially ones like penguins who have maybe one or 2 chicks a year. All bets are off if you're talking bunnies, insects and bacteria.

  24. Re:The RAF has a base in the falklands... by Zocalo · · Score: 5, Informative

    That's highly unlikely as the RAF operates very strict flight regulations concerning the areas around the Falklands that are used by nesting penguins. Especially so during the breeding season when the noise of an overflying jet may startle a potential parent into letting the egg balanced on its feet to keep it warm come into contact with the frozen ground, almost certainly killing the chick within. More than one RAF pilot has had their flying status revoked and found themselves on the next transport plane home after being caught too close to the penguin colonies.

    For those of you old enough to remember the TV advert, the RAF most certainly does not "P-P-P-Pickle a Penguin".

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  25. Hollywood has taught us the solution. by Blain · · Score: 2, Funny

    Teach them to dance.