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The Science Behind the Bubbly

isabotage3 writes "Here is everything you need to know about champagne in time for New Year's — From how to maximize your bubbles to why bubbles follow certain patterns and then suddenly change to when the time is right to stop studying your bubbly and drink up."

79 comments

  1. Too late... by rrohbeck · · Score: 2, Informative

    You should have told us an hour ago. :)
    Over 10 C (50 F) at midnight in northern Germany, FWIW. Yeah I know, just one data point.

    1. Re:Too late... by garcia · · Score: 1

      We had rain all morning in Minnesota and it's now snowing and thus ice. We tried to go out to drink some champagne with a friend but turned back less than 3 miles from home after hitting a curb near someone who had jumped the curb and landed in the treeline.

      They were ok and we're safe at home -- no champagne though.

    2. Re:Too late... by east+coast · · Score: 1

      We had unseasonably cold weather here in Pittsburgh in September and October. Should we start calling it "the ice age of 2006"?

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    3. Re:Too late... by Das+Modell · · Score: 1

      I don't know why we're talking about the weather, but 1C/33F here in Finland. We're still waiting for the winter to start.

    4. Re:Too late... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    5. Re:Too late... by Kyle_Katarn-(ISF) · · Score: 1

      I think winter forgot us this year. Temperature today: 71f in Manning, SC, USA. It's normally around 40 this time of year. And it's been like this since September!

    6. Re:Too late... by ZeroExistenZ · · Score: 1

      Same in Belgium.
      Last week it actually froze, but that didn't last for too long.

      Right now it's between 7C and 12C.

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    7. Re:Too late... by Esteanil · · Score: 1

      Well, I always knew America's a year behind the civilized parts of the world. And ATM it's literally true ;-)

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    8. Re:Too late... by flawedgeek · · Score: 1

      You must not be a native Minnesotan....I managed all the snow last year with about 2mm of tread on my front (drive) tires...

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    9. Re:Too late... by Simon+Garlick · · Score: 1

      About 25 deg here at midnight (Adelaide, Australia). Cold beer was the order of the night, and a drunken splash in the pool at about 1.00am.

  2. You are too late by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Australia is in GMT+10. Even GMT+11 in Sydney and in other weirdo Daylight Savings Pagan Worshipping States.

    We could have been having the traditional Australian New Years Violence, Punch Ups, Bing Drinking and Arrests with even bubblier champagne. You're just too damned late man! You're just too damned late!

    1. Re:You are too late by Ninjaesque+One · · Score: 1

      The WSJ article was published Friday; enough time to get to even Australia.

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  3. Because by dj961 · · Score: 5, Funny

    If you're reading this, you will be drinking champagne with another human being.

    1. Re:Because by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well, at least this computer here isn't slacking about pouring another round of bubbly. Cheers mate.

  4. How about: by tonycheese · · Score: 0

    replace the word bubbly with "erection".

    1. Re:How about: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

      that's easy:

      ->
      The science behind the erection

      isabotage3 writes
      "Here is everything you need to know about champagne in time for New Year's -- From how to maximize your erections to why erections follow certain patterns and then suddenly change, to when the time is right to stop studying your erection and drink up."
      -

      I think it would make an interesting article, indeed.

  5. Drunk Driver. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "Here is everything you need to know about champagne [CC] [MD] [GC] in time for New Year's -- From how to maximize your bubbles to why bubbles follow certain patterns and then suddenly change, to when the time is right to stop studying your bubbly and drink up."

    Sorry. I'm the designated driver.

  6. Bubble size by TubeSteak · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I wonder if this has anything to do with the size of the bubbles.

    I recall reading somewhere that higher quality champagne has smaller bubbles

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    1. Re:Bubble size by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's not the size of the bubbles!

    2. Re:Bubble size by Achoi77 · · Score: 1

      Generally, there are two main ways of making sparkling wine:

      1: the classic sparkling wine method, a double fermentation process made by taking wine, adding in more yeast and sugar resulting in a natural formation of the gas from within.

      2: the soda pop method, where you literally inject CO2 into your wine. This is the cheapest way to make your wine sparkle.

      Merely based on my observation, sparkling wine made via gas injection will always result in larger bubbles than sparkling wines made the classic way. Ever notice how big your bubbles get from your can of soda(in glass, that is)? Classic made sparkling wine bubbles are significantly smaller than those. Also, (I can't say this as fact as I just drink the stuff) I see that the C02 escapes at a much faster rate in injected wines - probably based on the fact that the bubbles are bigger, and rise to the top much faster as well. Temp of the wine will also affect the rate of escape too-its classic chemistry: colder temp results in lower gas pressure, the gas itself hasn't gone anywhere - I suppose that's why we generally do not drink warm sparkling wine as it will 'fade' much more quickly warm. :-P

  7. Costco has good prices on Veuve Clicquot by chevman · · Score: 2, Informative

    Picked up a couple bottles of Veuve Clicquot for $33 each this morning...

  8. Wow - $6 cheaper than most places by spineboy · · Score: 1

    That's my favorite appellation, but my wife likes the Demi-Sec

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  9. A Slight Correction. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    [...] to when the time is right to stop studying your bubbly and drink up.

    s/drink up/pour the carbonated piss down the drain/g

    Just saying, there are far better things to be drinking tonight. This is one tradition I personally would love to see dragged out and shot to celebrate the new year.

  10. Worth every penny, too. by ScentCone · · Score: 1

    Picked up a couple bottles of Veuve Clicquot for $33 each this morning...

    Yup. In that price range, I'll take that over Moet any time. The VC is a nice, crispy-dry champagne. Having it with some nice marinated, grilled quail and dove breasts served in endives - a most excellent finger-food configuration.

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  11. Waiting for the obligatory.... by eharvill · · Score: 1, Informative

    ...Wiki link about how "it's all really just sparkling wine unless it's from the Champagne region of France."

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    1. Re:Waiting for the obligatory.... by Anonymous+McCartneyf · · Score: 2, Informative

      No, no, no.
      European champagne is only sparkling white wine unless it's from the Champagne area of France. (Though I understand some European sparkling whites have their own special appelations.)
      American champagne is champagne wherever it's grown. I don't think American champagne even has to contain alcohol.

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    2. Re:Waiting for the obligatory.... by eharvill · · Score: 1

      American champagne is champagne wherever it's grown. I don't think American champagne even has to contain alcohol. I planted my champagne crop a little late this year and the darn things sprouted alcohol free! ;-)
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    3. Re:Waiting for the obligatory.... by marcello_dl · · Score: 1

      > Though I understand some European sparkling whites have their own special appellations.

      I dunno about the rest of Europe, in Italy the local sparkling whites' producers are very proud of their denominations, those wines get often preferred to champagne even on important occasions, especially in rural environments where wine is more of a religion than a beverage.

      Then, it's all a matter of taste.

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  12. Insensitive Clod!! by SilentOneNCW · · Score: 4, Funny

    Way to post this 14 minutes after New Year's, you insensitive clod! We British invented Time, you ought to bow to our will!

    1. Re:Insensitive Clod!! by SilentOneNCW · · Score: 1

      (This is a joke)

    2. Re:Insensitive Clod!! by thatnerdguy · · Score: 1

      Thanks for clearing that up...I really wasn't sure about that.





      This is (not?) a joke

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    3. Re:Insensitive Clod!! by Crimson+Fire · · Score: 1

      Here in New Zealand it's 1:47PM on 01/01/2007, so it's a bit more than 14 minutes late.

    4. Re:Insensitive Clod!! by SilentOneNCW · · Score: 1

      But you guys didn't invent Time!

    5. Re:Insensitive Clod!! by Dersaidin · · Score: 1

      I have a great idea: they should have done a duplicate for every timezone!!! Then we could all have a happy new years with maximum bubbles!

    6. Re:Insensitive Clod!! by drsquare · · Score: 1

      Yeah, if it wasn't for us the whole universe would just be frozen still, so all you colonials should be grateful.

    7. Re:Insensitive Clod!! by ConceptJunkie · · Score: 1

      Al Gore invented time. The British, however, invented Tea Time.

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  13. And for Australians etc... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Just in time for that New Years Champagne (er... "sparkling white", I'm not paying 4 times more for imported brand name stuff that tastes worse) and Mango Breakfast.

    Woohoo! hic...

    Sorry, must have been the Cham... er... sparkling white.

  14. Why America cheats. by Eevee · · Score: 2, Informative

    The US Senate never signed the Treaty of Versailles after WWI, which contained among other things the legal basis for naming wines. So as long as an American winery puts its location on the label, it can use champagne as a generic for sparkling wine.

    I, on the other hand, am trying a sparkling rosé this year just to be different. So there!

  15. hehe by biscon · · Score: 0

    good to see im not the only one browsing slashdot a new years eve. Happy new year fellow /.'ers :D

    1. Re:hehe by Werkhaus · · Score: 1

      It's New Year's Day and I'm hungover, you insensitive clod! Mmm... Champagne with hibiscus flowers floating in it.

    2. Re:hehe by __aaxwdb6741 · · Score: 1

      I need junk food. Lots of junk food...

  16. Arrogant clod :-) by SuperBanana · · Score: 1, Troll

    We British invented Time

    You (and the Spanish) invaded countless sovereign nations around the world. Nations where people not only understood the concept of time (perhaps not down to the minute, or by "hours") but in some cases had been tracking celestial bodies for millenniums. And then you told them that they needed to keep time relative to some place they'd never heard of, using your methodology, calendar, etc.

    Arrogance is the basic reason your country spent the last 300 years losing most of its "empire" :-)

    1. Re:Arrogant clod :-) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      At least we invaded to take time, not oil

      BAZZZING!

    2. Re:Arrogant clod :-) by SilentOneNCW · · Score: 3, Funny

      Arrogant? The British are too good for Arrogance!!

  17. Happy New Year! by JackHoffman · · Score: 1

    To all the geeks who run their computers on UTC: It's one hour past midnight in your favorite timezone! Stop discussing bubble sizes...

  18. Bubbles and cavitation during negative g load by viking80 · · Score: 4, Informative

    Happy New Year.

    As divers know, if you reduce the pressure, bubbles will form. An easy way to do this in a glass of champagne, or beer for that matter, is to toast with your good (or not so good) friend by touching the top of his glass with the bottom of yours.

    The champagne in your glass with be compressed on impact, and no bubbles will form. The glass on the bottom will experience an explosive decompression in the liquid, and instantly foam up with little left to drink to the amusement of the whole party except for the unfortunate one.

    This takes very little force if executed correctly: Both glass and liquid are quite stiff. An impact of 10cm/sec will easily cause a g-load of the bottom glass in the range -2g to -4g. This will of course result in negative pressure in the liquid, and bubbles will form instanty. The liquid will soon be back to normal pressure, and many of the bubbles cavitate, causing additional local pressure waves.

    Happy New Year

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    1. Re:Bubbles and cavitation during negative g load by Universe+Man · · Score: 1

      "An explosive decompression in the liquid"? Liquid can't be compressed or decompressed. The air pushing down on the surface of the liquid can be decompressed, which would cause the champagne to bubble, but we're obviously not talking about that. The bubbles are formed simply by transferring kinetic energy from the moving glass to the stationary glass and in turn to the champagne. Your champagne doesn't fizz for the same reason the moving ball on those desktop clacky things stops moving the instant it hits the next ball--most of its energy is transferred.

    2. Re:Bubbles and cavitation during negative g load by sdedeo · · Score: 1

      The approximation of incompressible fluid probably holds very well for champaigne. But incompressibility simply means no volume change with pressure change. So you, um, let me think, are correct in your description. I am curious tonight whether this method holds out, however -- it seems that most of the ways to cause, e.g., beer to fizz simply involve mixing more air in (i.e., you need splashing.)

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    3. Re:Bubbles and cavitation during negative g load by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Liquids are compressible:
      http://www.physlink.com/Education/AskExperts/ae15. cfm

      Liquids are about as compressible as steel or silicone dioxide, and as anyone with a watch knows, the steel in a spring and quarts in a crystal is compressible.

      With regular explosives, solid and liquids can be compressed by a factor of 2 to 4.

      The term used is "modulus of elasticity", and the unit is "Pa".
      For air at the surface of the earth it is something like 100kPa.
      For liquids it is something like 1000GPa

    4. Re:Bubbles and cavitation during negative g load by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      An easy way to do this in a glass of champagne, or beer for that matter, is to toast with your good (or not so good) friend by touching the top of his glass with the bottom of yours.
      That clearly violates one of the man laws
    5. Re:Bubbles and cavitation during negative g load by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I tried this, and the effect is amazing:

      With two bottles of freshly opened beer, lightly toast them together, one on top of the other.

      The top on stays full. The bottom one instantly becomes a geysir.

      Have fun.

  19. Mentos by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The minute I saw "bubbly" and "science" I thought... hey, we've all seen the diet coke & mentos videos before, how bout adding some to a bottle of champagne? Alas it's already been done, a quick google/youtube search and it's there. Doesn't stop it from being a good idea though :D

  20. You WANT bubbles to form? by Universe+Man · · Score: 1

    The article talks about ways to make the bubbles form in the champagne. Why would you want to do this? Once a bubble forms, it eventually comes to the surface and is forever lost. Once all the gas has formed bubbles and escaped, the champagne is completely flat. So don't you want bubbles to NOT form? The only explanation I can think of is that if you're drinking it WHILE the bubbles are forming, it tastes better. But that doesn't really make sense to me. I mean, if I take a pristinely clean champagne flute and very carefully pour the champagne in and end up with a glass of champagne from which very little gas has been lost and in which very few bubbles are forming, I can't imagine taking a sip and thinking, "Hmm, not enough bubbles." If nothing else, the champagne is necessarily going to be doing some fizzing as it gets moved around my mouth and throat.

    1. Re:You WANT bubbles to form? by packeteer · · Score: 1

      You may or may not want to maximum amount of bubbles. If you are not a sparkeling wine connoisseur then you probably dont have an opinion either way. Let me tell you first of all that you wont be bothered by too much but you might be bothered by too little. The only time you will ever find too many bubbles is in aged sparkeling wine. As champagne ages it usually takes on an almost yeasty taste from the fermentation and the CO2 gas increases creating more bubbles. Recently i got to drink a Champagne older than me and at first it was very bubbly but as i slowly enjoyed the taste it calmed down. Even then i wouldn't too much to make it unpleasant.

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    2. Re:You WANT bubbles to form? by Traf-O-Data-Hater · · Score: 1

      This is old news. Here in Australia there is a company who makes beer glasses ('Head Master' brand) that are used by many pubs ('bars' in US-speak) and clubs, and have been for years. These glasses have been lightly sandblasted on the inside, just on the bottom. The irregular surface makes the beer bubble nicely.

    3. Re:You WANT bubbles to form? by starfishsystems · · Score: 1
      I was wondering about this comment as well. Clearly the point of champagne is not to have the carbon dioxide outgas all at once. The enjoyment of champagne is intended to be leisurely and reflective as well as festive. The bubbles are visually interesting but that doesn't require an abundant flow of bubbles. The texture of champagne on the palate is the real test, and again there's an optimal point somewhere in the middle between tingling and explosive. You want to make that optimal moment last, especially with finer champagnes.

      The final champagne that we had last night was a 1982 Drappier Brut, past its prime really but fascinating just the same. It had lost some pressure over the years but it still produced a lovely subtle curtain of bubbles and a very fine and moderately persistent mousse on the palate. After ten minutes in the glass it had more or less run out and was not as rewarding without the texture. The last thing I would have wanted would be a champagne flute engineered to exhaust that wine more quickly. Cheers,

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  21. i'd rather... by middlemen · · Score: 0

    Bah! I'd rather just fart into my glass of champagne to increase the number of bubbles... bring on the beans and tacos...

  22. If you really want the cat amongst the pigeons... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You just have to say that the British and Spanish have had their empires, and learned a bit from it...unlike the US.

    Yup, that's probably flamebait!

    Probably better to see it in a slightly lighter-hearted manner, particularly as us Brits haven't learned the lesson that well ;)
    I guess some lessons take longer to learn than others.

  23. Questions..... by IHC+Navistar · · Score: 1

    I ask myself: Do I even care?

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  24. pretty warm by zogger · · Score: 1

    59 F right now in north georgia, 10 PM. The bugs have been out,and we have dandelions blooming in the lawn and we have daffodils coming up!

    Usually when this happens we get nailed hard later on in the season. It will most likely hurt the fruit crop (apples and peaches) some as well.

  25. No shit?!?! by /dev/trash · · Score: 1

    They just suffered thru a damned war and one of the items to that needed to be in the damned treaty was wine naming? Jesus.

  26. Politics suck by NotQuiteReal · · Score: 1
    We all know politics suck, but COME ON.

    My first thought on reading the parent post was not about champagne, but that, while writing up a treaty to end a fucking war, politicians, and no doubt, lobbyists, had to add language for business considerations...

    Sadly, it appears to be true. Several sites confirm it.

    Given the history here, I am glad the USA didn't sign the treaty. Now Joe-SixPack can buy American "champagne", even if it isn't Champagne.

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  27. Yes shit? by Eevee · · Score: 1

    To keep on a theme, that sparkling rosé that gave its life to make me happy tonight came from Alsace. Now, the bottle is marked as a product of France. So, can we conclude that the Alsace always belonged to France?

    Of course, the answer is no. It's been traded back and forth between France and the Holy Roman Empire/Germany multiple time; with the occasional change of name to Elsass-Lothringen. At the time in question, it had ended up with Germany after the Franco-Prussian War; it then became French territory again with the Treaty of Versailles.

    So, you see, the handling of territory was an important part of the treaty. The labeling of wines is merely a byproduct.

    1. Re:Yes shit? by /dev/trash · · Score: 1

      Oh I know all about Alsace-Lorraine.

  28. 14 Minutes?!? by ovideon · · Score: 1
    Are you kidding? I've already recovered from my hangover!

    The Science Behind the Bubbly
    Posted by CmdrTaco on Monday January 01, @12:14PM
    from the happy-new-years dept.
  29. How about useful information: by SonicSpike · · Score: 1

    such as "How to get a girl to drink it with you?!" or "how to kiss a girl on NYE and NOT get slapped?!"

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    1. Re:How about useful information: by PockyBum522 · · Score: 1

      I think this article is directly related to that. I certainly know I managed to get away with kissing a few girls and it involved lots of champagne. :p

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    2. Re:How about useful information: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      After a while you get used to the slap. I hardly notice it anymore.

  30. Sparkling Wine by bigberk · · Score: 1

    A point that is often lost on people is that Champagne (as it can only be called when originating from the Champagne region of France) is just a "sparkling wine", and sparkling wine is produced by many countries... it's called Cava in Spain, Sekt in Germany, and sparkling wine in USA.

    And really you can find excellent quality sparkling wines that are not called 'champagne'. The term Champagne is kind of like a trademark, and France fiercely defends the name.

    But you can buy quality sparkling wines made in many different places in the world

  31. and not a drop to drink by Mad+Tea+Party · · Score: 1

    This reminds me of the classic question posed by a researcher at Stanford: why do the bubbles in a pint of Guinness sink? http://www.stanford.edu/group/Zarelab/guinness/ind ex.html

  32. I make my own Champagne by purduephotog · · Score: 1

    There are two methods- Charmat and French- and while Charmat is easier (Kegging beer equipment- use a CO2 wand and seal wine off) it doesn't produce the same flavours as the French method.

    Bottle fermented sparkling wines are more difficult to make- riddling (removal of the yeast) takes the longest time when done by hand. New methods can perform complete riddling in less than 2 days, whereas done by hand might take 2 months or more.

    We just disgorged and opened a bottle of 1993 Seyval Blanc champagne that had been sitting on the yeast for these 13 years. I froze the neck, shot the ice plug out (fun!) and topped it off with the 2006 Riesling I am currently producing.

    At my friends 'champagne tasting' party it received the highest mark- a score of 9- "Liquid Panty Remover". While she was cute, I think I'll like her better with them on...

    Making your own wine/beer is an extremely fun hobby and definately worth it from the geek-ness standpoint. There's so many different things to try and a nice, rigid experimentative mindset is a boon to this unpredictable biological curiosity.