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"Dracula's Castle" For Sale In Romania

galaad2 writes "Want to own the real castle that may have inspired the legend of Dracula? The Transylvanian castle associated with Vlad the Impaler, who may have been part of the inspiration for Bram Stoker's Count Dracula, is on sale for £40 million ($77 million). Bran Castle, near the historic city of Brasov, in central Romania, draws 450,000 visitors a year because of its association with 15th-century Prince Vlad Tepes III. (Wikipedia points out that Bran Castle's ties to Vlad are weak and disputed.) The local town council has been offered first refusal; they have 30 days to review the offer and then the property will be put on the market."

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  1. Vlad's old digs, eh? by djupedal · · Score: 5, Funny

    Ok, I'll bite...

    1. Re:Vlad's old digs, eh? by gbobeck · · Score: 3, Funny
      Ok, I'll bite...

      Eh, Dracula sucks.
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    2. Re:Vlad's old digs, eh? by afd8856 · · Score: 5, Informative

      In the interest of spreading real news, I'll try to clarify things a bit.

      The castle was donated to an old Romanian queen by the local city. Comunists came and took it, now the royal family got it back as a donation. The Romanian Culture Ministry has a clause in that donation act that they are to be the first to be notified in case it's available for sale and they have the right to purchase it back first. The Royal Family didn't notify the Culture Ministry yet, so they can't officially sell it because the Culture Ministry hasn't refused to purchase it yet.

      The whole thing looks a bit like a scam from the Royal Family to increase the value of the castle. Apropos, the castle is the most major Romanian tourist site, it's very beautiful and it makes something like 10 milion Euro/year, with about 6 milion Euro/year expenses.

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    3. Re:Vlad's old digs, eh? by Werkhaus · · Score: 2, Interesting

      There's the ruins of one he got some Turkish landowners to build, too. The remains of it overlook the Arges river and it's a bit of a slog to get to it (1500-odd steps). Legend says that he worked rebellious Boyars to death building it.
      http://www.draculascastle.com/html/poenari.html

    4. Re:Vlad's old digs, eh? by iLogiK · · Score: 2

      I've seen a report on this story last night, including an interview with the Minister of Culture and he said that as far as he's concerned he will refuse to puchase it. Also I believe that the castle will go to the city of Brasov as that was the wish of the royal family. I'm not to sure about all of this as I wasn't really paying attention to the TV.

    5. Re:Vlad's old digs, eh? by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 3, Funny

      Comunists came and took it, now the royal family got it back as a donation.

      Yeah, it was the Communists who kicked the old man out of the castle; he lived in New York City for a while and then settled down in Rio de Janeiro. No word yet if he wants his old castle back. It might suck for the royal family if he did show up.

    6. Re:Vlad's old digs, eh? by MrNiCeGUi · · Score: 2, Informative

      You are right in saying that it's a scam. But the castle is not the most major Romanian tourist site, far from it, and the actual yearly income is something around a 300.000 Euro, nowhere near 10 million.
      In my opinion, the state should pass. There is no particular reason that it should own this castle, as no matter who will buy it will have to keep it opened to tourists. But, as you said, it is just a scam by the owners together with corrupt County Council members to swindle the state out of an outrageous amount. Frankly I'm pretty angry: this particular scam will cost me around 10 Euro.

    7. Re:Vlad's old digs, eh? by WidescreenFreak · · Score: 2, Funny

      I'll drink to that! Bloody Mary, anyone?

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    8. Re:Vlad's old digs, eh? by JasonNolan · · Score: 2, Informative

      There's no real link between the vampire and vlad. Emily Gerard in an article that stoker read, wrote that Dracula was a Romanian word for the devil. So stoker used it. This is well documented, and Elizabeth Miller, who is finishing up Stoker's notes for the novel for publication, has researched this widely. As for the castle, there's a good chance that the historical dracula stayed there, but it was never a place he lived in the fort at Poenari IS well documented as his home, but it is a ruin, and far from the tourist routes, and up a 1200 foot climb. So everyone pushes Castle Bran. I'm looking. My favorite is of course the Castle Dracula Hotel... Just finished up a paper on that one if anyone cares :)

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    9. Re:Vlad's old digs, eh? by Anne_Nonymous · · Score: 3, Funny

      On /. you'll byte.

    10. Re:Vlad's old digs, eh? by tapehands · · Score: 2, Funny

      ....
      But I though that Vlad actually was a communist! All this history just doesn't make a lick of sense.
      :(

  2. Bats by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    £40 million GLORIOUS bats. HA HA HA.

  3. Choices, choices! by ar1550 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Damn, do I spend my recently acquired $70 million inheritance to buy Sealand, or this castle?

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    1. Re:Choices, choices! by datafr0g · · Score: 5, Funny

      Get the castle. Dating back to 1337 it must have a totally 1337 basement!

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    2. Re:Choices, choices! by astromog · · Score: 5, Funny

      It's a castle, right? It must have been built to defend against aggressors. So buy the castle and declare it an independant state. All the benefits of Sealand (except fishing), but with better views and less rusting.

    3. Re:Choices, choices! by Zork+the+Almighty · · Score: 2, Funny

      Just think, with $140M you could buy both, and move the castle TO Sealand. How cool would that be ?

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    4. Re:Choices, choices! by JustOK · · Score: 3, Funny

      That's the old English spelling.

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  4. £40 Million? by iminplaya · · Score: 5, Funny

    Real Estate salesman: Wow, we don't see many vampires around here.
    Vampire: Yeah well, at these prices you won't see many more.

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  5. Roommates? by Aqua+OS+X · · Score: 4, Funny

    Who wants to go in on a castle?

    Ideal roommates should be able to appreciate trap doors, suits of armor used used for conversation pieces, abandoned rooms with misc furniture covered in white sheets, pictures of aristocrats with the eyes cut out (for spying), rotating bookshelfs, and indie rock.

    No dogs.
    No smokers.
    Weed is ok.

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    1. Re:Roommates? by NotQuiteReal · · Score: 4, Funny
      I imagine old castles suck.

      Plumbing problems, roof problems, heating issues.

      Normal bills are probably a real bitch. Special "one-time" maintenance is surly out-of-this-world.

      I have no idea what Romanian property taxes are like... You think Vampires suck - you don't want to see the local Tax authority.

      So, if you are handy, with a strong back, you might make a good roommate/co-investor. Speaking Romanian probably wouldn't hurt.

      Is broadband available there (at that specific castle)?

      I'll pass.

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    2. Re:Roommates? by Datamonstar · · Score: 4, Funny

      Okay, who's the wise guy who keeps hiding all these hearts behind my candles?

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    3. Re:Roommates? by imsabbel · · Score: 4, Informative

      The father of a colleque of mine bought a castle a decade ago. For 1 DM at that time.

      Its a lot smaller than this particular one, but after a decade of rebuilding and fixing stuff, its still only maybe 25% finished. They ARE a bitch to keep warm (and to keep water out). But they make an impressive party-place.

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    4. Re:Roommates? by BForrester · · Score: 2, Funny

      If you think "one-time" maintenance is surly, wait until you see a vampire who gets shafted by the communist party AND his real estate agent.

  6. sweet by Danga · · Score: 4, Funny

    All I can say is if I had 77 million lying around I would love to pick this castle up. I could get so many more chicks: "come back to my castle... of love"

    What chick wouldn't want to go back to a castle? Of love?

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    1. Re:sweet by gDoDig · · Score: 5, Insightful

      If you had 77 million, you wouldn't need a castle to get chicks. :))

    2. Re:sweet by sa1lnr · · Score: 5, Informative

      If you had chicks, you wouldn't have 77 million for long. ;)

  7. Stone walls vs. ductwork. by Animats · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Putting in heating, ventilating, and air conditioning will be a tough job. I know someone who converted an old stone barn, and that was a major project, even with substantial spending.

  8. There's only one catch... by camperdave · · Score: 4, Funny

    Sure you can buy Dracula's castle, but there's one catch. You have to spend the night there.

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  9. My only concern by Nichotin · · Score: 2, Funny

    If I become the Lord of this castle, will Simon Belmont come and whack me with that nasty whip thingie he is carrying around?

    1. Re:My only concern by foo12 · · Score: 2, Funny

      If I become the Lord of this castle, will Simon Belmont come and whack me with that nasty whip thingie he is carrying around? No. That's extra.

  10. Do the math... by Telcontar · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Certainly nobody will buy this castle for making a profit. Do the math: 40 million pounds have to be spent. People pay 2.40 per entry. Thus you need 16.7 million entries to cover the acquisition costs (assuming the 450,000 visitors a year are all adults, a bit optimistic). Using this figure, it takes 37 years to pay off the initial investment - ignoring costs for running the castle, such as ongoing repairs, staff, etc.

    Still, it would be cool to have that castle and enjoy eternal night life...

    1. Re:Do the math... by nacturation · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Certainly nobody will buy this castle for making a profit. Do the math: 40 million pounds have to be spent. People pay 2.40 per entry. Thus you need 16.7 million entries to cover the acquisition costs (assuming the 450,000 visitors a year are all adults, a bit optimistic). Using this figure, it takes 37 years to pay off the initial investment - ignoring costs for running the castle, such as ongoing repairs, staff, etc.
       
      Still, it would be cool to have that castle and enjoy eternal night life... Speaking of eternal night life, here's an even better idea. Every night throw a wild and massive party. Cover charge is 100 Euro per person. 500 Euro gets you your own room to host your own mini-party in true bacchanalian fashion. Or 2500 Euro gets you the dungeon for the evening. On Friday and Saturday, tasteful in-period costumes are mandatory (vampires okay, clowns not okay... rent 'em at the door if you forgot yours). It's like Disney Land but for mature audiences only. Have live DJ competitions where the audience votes and the top prize for the winning DJ is 10% of the take from cover charges or something like that.

      It'd be a hell of a blast until it gets shut down for some please-think-of-the-children reason.
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  11. Meat in the walls by metal+slime · · Score: 4, Funny

    I only have one question. If I buy it can I get fully cooked meat out of the walls by destroying certain blocks?

  12. Dracula's Castle? Since when? by KaylaVincent · · Score: 3, Informative

    Well, the castle has little to do with Vlad Tepes, actually. As for Bram Stocker, there's an idea he mostly drew his inspiration from the actions of Elizabeth Bathory. :) You should look more into the subject of this castle. It is beautiful, indeed, but you would really have the wrong expectations of it. Here's the story for those interested in this topic :
    http://wordsofabrokenmirror.blogspot.com/2006/09/b reaking-dracula-myth.html

  13. Re:yummy by sigpwr · · Score: 2

    just the 22 million people of this country ...

  14. Re:yummy by CmdrGravy · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Romania is a nice place to live and now it's in the EU and will no doubt have a lot more money pumped into it I imagine it will become even nicer.

    Its certainly a lot closer than Brazil as well, a £40 plane journey I believe.

  15. Every Romanian castle is "Dracula's Castle" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I've been to a few, and they were all advertised as being "the real one". The joke among Romanians is apparently that every castle over there belonged to some Vlad this or that, and because that Bram Stoker has never been to Romania, there is no problem in claiming that it is Dracula's castle

  16. Re:Long gone by len_p · · Score: 2, Informative

    You could eat and sleep. Last week there was also 1m of snow so access might be somehow difficult to some remote parts.

  17. Been to Bran and the real Castle too by seamus_waldron · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The Castle in Bran *looks* the part. If Disney were to make a real castle, it would look like this. It is well located for access by train from all over the country. I'm not sure it would be a good investment as their door policy isn't exactly difficult to skip around.

    Anyway, the castle at Poenari is the real deal, though it is difficult to get there. You have to climb up a very steep mountain side to actually get to the castle, sometimes you are watched by armed guards protecting a nearby Hydro plant or something. The guys had guns, I didn't ask. This castle really was the home of Vlad the Impaler and the slope you climb to reach it once had the decapetated heads of his victims strewn across it on spikes.

    The castle itself is actually very small and nobody is ever going to make moey selling tours there (hence Bran is where the tours are sent). It is spooky and very, very cool. It is perched on a teeny tiny outcropping from the mountain and is a really fantastic experience , as I recounted here many years ago http://www.apj.co.uk/tales/vlad.htm#vlad.

  18. Not for sale either by KaylaVincent · · Score: 2, Informative

    Quote from Hotnews.ro, a Romanian news site:
    The local authorities of the Brasov county will buy the world-famous Bran Castle for 60 million euro and will get the money by leasing with a 10-year loan from an Austrian bank. The move comes eight months after the rightful owner of the castle, now known as "Dracula's castle", Dominic Habsburg, got it back in a retrocession process.

  19. Re:Long gone by mangu · · Score: 2, Funny
    I recently spent a night just in the proximity of the castle and I wake up much more revigorated than usual


    How did you expect to feel? You are now immortal! Stay off the sunlight, though, either that or wear that ultra-extra-super-strength sunblock.

  20. I've just visited this place by cozziewozzie · · Score: 3, Interesting

    ...a week ago.

    It is really beautiful, and the surrounding village of Bran is extremely nice. The caste is quite small, but very nice, with small corridors, winding stairs, inner terraces and balconies, even a secret passage from Queen's room to King's room. All asymmetric, you can easily get lost in there. The entire thing is in mint condition, but heating in the winter must be a bitch.

    As can traffic. A few hours after we left, the whole village got snowed in, and thousands of tourists couldn't leave as the roads were buried in half a metre of snow.

  21. Will buying Dracula's castle give me by Danzigism · · Score: 2, Funny

    supreme authority over Romania?? I just wanna tell those bastards to stop joining my IRC channel and harassing me.. its a freakin invasion

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  22. Re:The Habsburg are as Romanian... by Icculus · · Score: 3, Funny

    I didn't know Dennis Miller surfed slashdot...

  23. Konami should buy it. by phxhawke · · Score: 2, Funny

    This way all the castlevania fans can visit it and whip candles to their hearts content.