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Wii Outselling PS3 in Japan

saintory writes "Apparently the Japanese console consumers are sinking their teeth into the modest Wii and are not as interested in the power-packed PS3. In fact, the Wii is outselling Sony's new console by a factor of almost 2:1. The number of PS3s sold into the Japanese market (466,716) falls well short of the million Sony had planned for the end of 2006. 989,118 Wii consoles have been sold in Japan in the same time span. From the article: 'Both Sony and Nintendo are projecting selling 6 million consoles by the end of March. Sony expects to start shipping the PS3 to Europe sometime that month as well. Straggling far behind Sony and Nintendo in the Enterbrain survey was Microsoft's Xbox 360, which had sold 290,467 since its Japan debut in December 2005. Selling machines in large numbers is crucial in the gaming business because it encourages software companies to make more games to play on the machines, which in turn boosts console sales.'"

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  1. PS3 in Europe by sottitron · · Score: 4, Funny

    Seems to me that they should just start shipping the consoles that aren't selling in the US and Japan to Europe.

    1. Re:PS3 in Europe by nomadic · · Score: 5, Funny

      This wont help either, the average european household has way less money to spend than the average US one.

      Plus the simple European folk tend to use turnips as their currency, and I think the yen-turnip exchange rate is particularly unfavorable this year.

    2. Re:PS3 in Europe by maglor_83 · · Score: 5, Funny
      Plus the simple European folk tend to use turnips as their currency
      Oh come on. We all know only the Swedes do that.
    3. Re:PS3 in Europe by Asic+Eng · · Score: 5, Funny
      yen-turnip exchange rate is particularly unfavorable this year.


      Actually the exchange rate should favour sales to the turnip union. In principle a US$900 console should only cost 695 Turnips currently.

  2. From the Sony PR Department: by Zeek40 · · Score: 5, Funny

    The Wii is only outselling the PS3 in Japan because the small stature of the average Japanese gamer makes it extremely dangerous for them to attempt to wield the phenomenal gaming power contained within the PS3.

    1. Re:From the Sony PR Department: by Captain+Splendid · · Score: 4, Funny

      Hey, Microsoft called. They want their Xbox joke back.

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    2. Re:From the Sony PR Department: by Zeek40 · · Score: 5, Funny

      Hey, the 80's called, they want their "Hey, the called" jokes back. ;)

  3. are we surprised? by Thansal · · Score: 5, Insightful

    No, of course not. why?

    Because Sony has not made as many PS3s as Nintendo has made Wiis. Rather simple isn't it?
    Are we surprised that the 360 is tanking? nope, because it doesn't apeal to the japanese market (and it does not have the fanbase that Nintendo and Sony have).

    The real question is how will the number end up once sony gets production going at a decent speed?

    Other peopel have pointed out (and after research I now have to agree) that the PS3 isn't selling in the USA (if any one wants ot buy a PS3, Circuit City has 60gig versions in stock). Yet is is still a chalange (though not impossible) to buy a Wii despite much higher production levels.

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    1. Re:are we surprised? by Achoi77 · · Score: 4, Interesting

      People are very quick to predict the doom and gloom of sony. What they all fail to recognize is that sony (and anybody else that had a clue on how the trends are moving) knew that this is going to happen. For months. The only thing they would not be able to anticipate is the negative public backlash from the hype machine that tried to imitate from the success of the 360 last year. This is a planned risk, as they are essentially taking on two fronts. One front is the video area, with Nintendo coming out guns blazing, and on top of that, the Microsoft juggernaut attempting to brute force their way through the market.

      The bigger front that I see, is the movie industry. How long have DVDs been out? something like less than 10 years? How long did it take for them to make VHS obsolete? While it's completely understandable that Blu-ray Discs are probably not going to dominate DVDs at the rate that DVD did VHS, higher definition picture quality WILL win it over. The big question is: will Blu-ray Disc be the new DVDs of the future? Or will HDDVD? Or some other format?

      This is the wild frontier that sony has been eyeing. They want their format to win, and is using the PS3 as their foothold. The PS3 is nothing more than collateral damage. Ever wonder why sony isn't making as big a push to produce games out for the ps3 as much as MS or NIN (aside from the fact that nobody really knows how to maximize the ps3 as of yet)? Their goal is to have as many bluray disk players in as many homes as possible(and for $599 for early adapters, that's pretty damn cheap). Once they get a decent foothold, and especially when prices begin to drop to decent levels, say $299? is when we're going to see frightningly high levels of market dominance by sony.

    2. Re:are we surprised? by SuchiRu · · Score: 4, Interesting

      See this is where you are wrong. I'm living in Tokyo right now, and I go about every other day to Akihabara to try to get a Wii. For the last week the PS3's have been stacked up behind the counter, and when I say stacked I mean 4 wide square 10 high with at least 4 piles everyday. Looking at Yodobashi-Akiba (the largest electronics store in Japan) they have had the sign saying that PS3's are in stock for the last 1 and a half weeks as well as every other electronics store in Japan, but when you look above that sign it says the Wii is sold out. I have never seen that sign change. I wish it would because I want a Wii.

    3. Re:are we surprised? by AeroIllini · · Score: 5, Funny
      Anecdotally, I was at Best Buy yesterday and they were still out of Wii (got a shipment that day but sold out very quickly) but had 12 PS3.
      Proper plurals:

      One Wii, many Wii. A group of Wii is a club.
      One XBox, many XBoxen. A group of XBoxen is a pack.
      One PS3, many PS3s. A group of PS3s is a rarity.

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    4. Re:are we surprised? by Simon+Garlick · · Score: 4, Funny

      A group of PS3s is a rarity.

      You obviously haven't been to an electronics retailer lately. You'll see lots of PS3s sitting there. You can spot the PS3 section by the tumbleweed blowing through.

    5. Re:are we surprised? by buffer-overflowed · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Consumers don't care about HD. They don't. If they did, the film industry wouldn't be using 35mm film and the equivalent of 1080p24(which is even *lower* resolution and speed than modern 35mm stocks) for digital when making movies in order to save on costs. There are, and have been film stocks with much higher resolution available for quite a long time, in fact 35mm all but completely replaced higher resolution stocks due to the savings in the early 90s. 70mm used to be a lot more common than it is now. 2001, Lawrence of Arabia, the special effects sequences for close encounters, to name three things, were all shot on 70mm. And of course, there's also IMAX. How many movies get shot on IMAX in a given year? 8, I think.

      So yea, people may claim they want HD. But they don't. No one watches a DVD now and goes "damn, this sucks." Few went to the theatre for the new Star Wars films and bitched about the fact that the resolution was a fraction of traditional 35mm stocks. Even on my setup (720p native projector onto a 102" glass-beaded screen) which makes most people's "huge" HDTVs look positively tiny. I have *yet* to hear someone complain about DVDs on my setup, they're blown away by how theatre-like the setup is. Would a Blu-ray or an HD-DVD player improve that? Yea, probably, but it's not worth the frickin' money when no one complains about it now. Same logic the film industry uses in not using higher-resolution stocks and switching to digital. I think they know their stuff personally. Even if they are trying to market the opposite to the unwashed masses.

      The fact is, neither HD format, or existing HD televisions can display the majority of the information contained on a theoretical pristine 35mm film print even from pre-WW2(and stock/grain quality has advanced a lot since then). So, if you really want quality, pick up a projector and some reels. The resolution blows everything else out of the water atm, and that's the only advantage it really has, and I mean money is no object when it comes to picture quality, right? DVDs offered a ton of convienance features over VHS tapes, no rewinding, start/stop, extra content in the form of multiple audio tracks, etc. The HD formats offer... resolution. At 10-20 times the price for a player, 2-4x the price per movie, and with a fraction of the selection. Man, what a frickin' deal! And this isn't even going into things like ideal view distance.

      The future is downloaded / on the demand content because it offers substantive advantages over DVD.

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  4. Causes: Price, Games by I'll+Provide+The+War · · Score: 5, Informative
  5. Re:newsflash cheaper things sell more than expensi by Pojut · · Score: 4, Insightful

    You are forgetting one important thing:

    Sony LOSES money on each PS3 sold, whereas nintendo GAINES money on each Wii sold.

    Yes, I know there are games and all that, but still...if it takes selling 2.5 Wii's to match the price of one PS3, and EACH Wii is making a profit while that one PS3 loses money...which one do you think provides a better profit margin?

    Net income means jack shit. I don't care if you bring in 2 billion a year if your costs are 4 billion. If my costs are 50,000, and I bring in 75,000, guess what: I have a higher profit margin, which means I have MADE more money than you.

  6. Re:newsflash cheaper things sell more than expensi by hal2814 · · Score: 4, Informative

    "Net income means jack shit. I don't care if you bring in 2 billion a year if your costs are 4 billion. If my costs are 50,000, and I bring in 75,000, guess what: I have a higher profit margin, which means I have MADE more money than you."

    In this case the net income of company A is -$2billion while the net income of company B is $25,000. Net income is very important. In fact, net income is probably more important than profit margin in this case. I think you need to s/Net/Gross/ for your statement to make sense.

  7. Re:Cultural differences...? by Rycross · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Because the XBox simply doesn't have the kinds of games that Japanese gamers traditionally enjoy. That is, Japanese style RPGs such as Final Fantasy and Dragon Quest, and dating sim style games.

    The XBox software is very American, which isn't a bad thing at all, but it does mean that it doesn't sell well in Japan.

  8. Feature list for immature almost-tri-genarians by Chris+Burke · · Score: 5, Funny

    PS3:
    - SIXAXIS controller, which if pronounced sloppily can sound like "sex-asses".
    - Motion sensing adds some potential.
    Sex joke quotient: 50.

    Wii:
    - Name is inherently a phallus joke.
    - Controller is phallic object, and referred to as "Wii-mote".
    - Phallic object is "motion sensitive"
    - Phallic object vibrates.
    Sex joke quotient: 1 billion.

    Winner: Wii. Wii always wins.

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  9. Re:This is news because... by dctoastman · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Um, the fact that the PS3 is no longer selling out (at least here in the States) should be a telling factor.

    And maybe I should tell you about the two WalMarts, Target, Best Buy, Circuit City, Gamestop, and EB Games, all of which have PS3 stock. (Not to mention nearby (but inconvenient) Toys R Us stores).

    Sony does have enough supply to fulfill demand now. Demand is just really low.

  10. Wii games are cheaper to develop. by trdrstv · · Score: 4, Interesting
    I'm not convinced this is actually going to be true. Yes, you need higher-resolution art assets for the PS3 and 360, but I imagine that most developers use them anyway for potential PC ports. On the Wii side, you've got to develop and playtest for a very different controller mechanism, which has got to take some significant time and resources.

    Good games are going to be expensive to make, no matter what. I'd be curious to know what Zelda cost to develop versus, say, Oblivion.

    I would be interested in the Zelda vs Oblivion costs, but when THQ states "it was far less expensive making games for Nintendo's console." and that "they could be as little as a third of the high-end next-gen titles... Maybe the range is a quarter to a half." I believe them.

  11. Re:In Other News... by eln · · Score: 4, Funny

    You fool. The sun does rise and set. It sets in Arizona, in fact. Near Flagstaff. That's why the rocks there are so red. It goes out at it sets, though, and is only about the size of a quarter, so it doesn't crush anyone or anything.

    It moves from east to west because of solar wind.

    Christ man, didn't they teach you anything in school?

  12. Wow! by koreth · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It's almost as if demand is elastic with respect to price! How strange! I wonder if they have a field of study devoted to predicting that kind of bizarre outcome.

  13. Re:This is news because... by soft_guy · · Score: 4, Funny

    And I've yet to hear of a retard using the PS3. Great - you can be the first one!
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  14. Wii PS3. Why? by mattpointblank · · Score: 5, Insightful

    My friend has a Wii and I've played several times, and this is what I told him regarding the PS3 vs Wii debate (full disclosure: I've never played a PS3):

    When I first played a games console, oh, back in the halcyon days of 1992 or so, it was a Sega Mega Drive (aka "Genesis" in the US). It was a whole new experience for me, being able to interact with an onscreen character using a handheld controller. It was a new world and I loved it and was introduced to a whole wealth of other systems.

    Fastforward 13 years and nothing has really changed. Games look better, are more imaginative and offer me more satisfying results than grabbing rings and power-ups. But the gaming concept itself is still pretty much the same. We all laze around on couches, plugged into the console, and gradually fall asleep in marathon gaming sessions.

    2006: enter the Wii (no pun). I was a little skeptical after seeing the ads and the less-than-impressive graphics, but being there when my friend first plugged his Wii in was like being transported back to when I was 6 again. I was genuinely excited and amused playing WiiSports, with the new concept the controller had brought to my gaming.

    The PS3 might look prettier and have more power. It even plays DVDs and other things I have no interest in. But what it doesn't have is a revolutionary new design that's been the most innovative thing (at least, in my personal gaming history) since I first started playing consoles. The Wii has got me up off the couch and really interacting with my games, while the PS3, however real it may look compared to the Wii's bobble-headed "Miis", is just another couch-sitting epic.