CodeWeavers Releases CrossOver 6 for Mac and Linux

jeremy_white writes "I'm happy to announce that we've shipped version 6.0 of CrossOver, for both the Mac and Linux. We have a full changelog available; highlights are are Outlook 2003 and support for games, notably World of Warcraft and Steam based games. I can attest that World of Warcrac...er craft is the most well tested application we have ever supported. It's exciting to watch the Wine project progress — it's a great and growing community of developers (which is a good thing, as we're now all too busy grinding Honor in Alterac Valley to keep up our pace of contributions :-/)."

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[User 956]

It's exciting to watch the Wine project progress

It is, and it's certainly a lot more useful than that other whine project.

Re:And *STILL* no QuickBooks Support

[rainman_bc]

but QB is the accounting software used by most accountants,

I'd say more accountants work with Peoplesoft, SAP, Great Plains, AccPac than QuickBooks. The world is ripe with accounting software out there, and Quickbooks isn't the only thing, not even close.

Many accountants yes. most? Now you're just talking out your arse.

Re:And *STILL* no QuickBooks Support

[drinkypoo]

I don't think I'd ever pledge QB support. That gets you into a position of liability with people's money. You can always use vmware or parallels (depending on what system you're on) to get a full windows environment in which to run quickbooks. Frankly, I wouldn't trust wine for something like that.

Great Just what we need

[Reed Solomon]

This is all part of microsoft's plan to bring Kernel and Driver development to a halt. Mark my words. This can't be good.

Mixed impressions

[gsasha]

Just downloaded and installed it. Works OK, will try Office 2003. However, it still has done nothing for international keyboard support :(. Pretty much unusable for me as I use 3 different layouts.

Cedega Mashing

[QueePWNzor]

I'm almost completely sure I know why he mentioned WoW: Cedega is advertising it. In case nobody knows: WIne used to have a BSD lisence (open source but not viral.) Transgaming took their code, renamed it Winex/Cedega, closed-sourced their developments, and got WoW to work. There is clearly residual anger, but Crossover has been foucusing on office rather than games, so they've been out of the picture...until now. Cedega will now have honest competition, and where the market share goes, nobody knows! Congrats: Wine must finally be getting somewhere! (It's been long enough)

Re:Cedega Mashing

[spiritraveller]

In case nobody knows: WIne used to have a BSD lisence (open source but not viral.) Transgaming took their code, renamed it Winex/Cedega, closed-sourced their developments

Last I checked (a while back), WineX was open source. You could install it from CVS, and for a short time, you could install in Gentoo using Portage.

However, Crossover Office is closed source. It has contributed to the wine project, but it's certainly not covered by the GPL, and the codebase diverged at the point when wine went to the GPL.

I don't see why there would be anger. They are just two business competing with each other. They both got their start the same way.

Re:Cedega Mashing

[Compholio]

Congrats: Wine must finally be getting somewhere! (It's been long enough)

Wine has been getting somewhere for a long time, the reason DirectX was so stagnant for so long was because Transgaming promised to commit their DirectX code. The community is not interested in duplicating work unless it's necessary to make things better, so everyone was really upset when the promised DirectX code disappeared into thin air.

Oh great.

[Sneakernets]

Cue millions of little stupid youtube videos titled "******** running on a MAC POWERBOOK using Crossover".

Oh wait. They're already there.

Re:And *STILL* no QuickBooks Support

[Alternate Interior]

I don't think there is a parallels substitute. I've tried numerous virtual machines on Windows and Linux, and some of the old PC emulators in the PowerPC days. Coherence mode puts Parallels so far ahead of anything else. I only adopted Parallels over Christmas but it took less than a day to realize how much better Parallels is than any emulator or even bootcamp. I'm sure I've now been labeled a shill or something, but I'm not. I'm just a guy who happens to be a big fan and has seen what else is out there.

I see that it has been tested with AMD-64 systems

[Rick17JJ]

I have used CrossOver Linux in the past to run Office 97 and Adobe Photoshop 7 under an earlier version of Red Hat Linux. I later used it to run Office 2000 under Linux instead. It worked pretty well and I was happy with their product. I haven't yet tried using it under the 64-bit version Ubuntu 6.10 Linux on my AMD-64 computer. I see that the Codeweavers web page says that it does work with 6.06/6.10 and that they test under both 32 bit and 64 bit systems, so I plan to give it a try. The idea of possibly running a Windows only Plugin for Firefox is also kind of intriguing.

Don't bitch unless you've tried

[shystershep]

Several version of QuickBooks are listed as 'bronze', meaning they will at least install and run. If you look under 'known issues,' do you know what you see? Nothing.

If you want to run QuickBooks under Crossover, try it. If it has a problem, then tell them about it.

now I think they're doomed to fail due to bad direction from their management.

Somehow I suspect you're just trolling. If you knew anything about Codeweavers, or had even tried the software, you should know that they determine which applications to support based on customer demand. Granted, some apps are probably too difficult to be worth the effort, which would be a judgment call, but by and large their 'direction' comes from the bottom up rather than dictated by a pointy-hair type.

Re:Don't bitch unless you've tried

[dopeydad]

There's no known issues, because no one runs it.

I'm not trolling -- I actually paid the $39 a couple of years back when it looked like they were making progress. QB runs, but not well -- lots of little graphic glitches and refresh issues that make me nervous when I'm entering financial data...

So, I have tried. Can I bitch now?

Re:And *STILL* no QuickBooks Support

[flyingfsck]

Uhhh, because QB works? I've been using QB on Wine for many years - ever since Corel Linux, which was hellingone way back, what 2000?

You are wrong

[Per Abrahamsen]

WineX is free software, Cedega is not. It is a derived product covered by a non-free license. Something the WineX license allows

Wine is not GPL, it is LGPL, a much more liberal license than the GPL. It allows non-free derived products, as long as the Wine part of the derived product is still LGPL, and replaceable by the user. You can download the source of Wine part of CrossOver (it is no longer called CrossOver Office) by clicking on the Source tab at their home page. You can also get the source code for several other none-Wine components of CrossOver there.

The two businesses did not get their start the same way, CodeWeavers never made proprietary improvements to Wine. TransGaming did, which is why Wine changed license. CodeWeavers and other contributers were tired of the uneven competition between contributers and leeches that the old BSDL license encoruage. The true genius of the copyleft licenses is not high ideals of the FSF they were created to promote, but that they create a level playground for competing companies to cooperate in. "You can get my contributions, only if I can get yours".

Re:And *STILL* no QuickBooks Support

[curious.corn]

No way. All software providers explicitly deny any responsibility for damages deriving from the use of their product. Ever read an EULA? Why would you trust running your business on native windows (at most you could claim a refund for the OS license) and prentend liability from a third party?