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Canada May Lose Copyright Fair-Use Rights

DotNM writes with an article from the CBC reporting that the Canadian government is considering removing fair-use rights from Canada's copyright law. From the article: "Exacerbating the situation is intense pressure from the United States, where Canada is considered a rogue when it comes to copyright and intellectual property. It still hasn't ratified a 1997 World Intellectual Property Organization copyright treaty... Two of the most controversial issues are [DRM] and the closely related technological protection measures."

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  1. Fight.. by QuantumG · · Score: 5, Insightful

    now is the time for Canadians to get out there and tell their elected representatives that they don't want US copyright. Do it now, before your politicians trade your dental plan for a keg of beer for their meetings.

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    1. Re:Fight.. by Rufty · · Score: 5, Funny

      [Q] Why is American beer like sex in a canoe?
      [A] They're both fucking close to water...

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    2. Re:Fight.. by Doytch · · Score: 4, Informative

      If you don't have your MP in your address book, then here's the lookup site:

      http://www.parl.gc.ca/information/about/people/hou se/PostalCode.asp?Source=SM

      I already sent my MP a letter, do your part if you're pissed.

    3. Re:Fight.. by JebusIsLord · · Score: 5, Informative

      First, go here to find your representative:

      http://webinfo.parl.gc.ca/MembersOfParliament/Main MPsCompleteList.aspx?TimePeriod=Current&Language=E

      then, email them the following (just a suggestion):

      Hi [representative],

      This is my first time writing to you, as a new constituent. I am writing concerning an article I read today on CBC.ca. http://www.cbc.ca/technology/story/2007/01/11/copy right-canada.html

      I am fairly concerned about possible changes to Canadian fair-use laws. I consider myself a patron of the arts, and one of the music industry's best customers. As a modern, technology-savy citizen, I primarily listen to the music CDs I purchase on my portable iPod, or on my PC. Changes to fair use laws would make the act of "ripping" these songs to my computer, illegal. I consider myself an ethical consumer, and I don't see how in any way this activity harms the music industry. I suppose one could argue that, should this law come into effect, I could purchase my music online and therefore no "illegal" copying from CD would take place. However, these downloadable files (by way of the iTunes music store, for example) already defeat fair-use by restricting your ability to move them to new devices, new PCs etc.

      In short, this law will punish good consumers, like me. Unethical consumers of music are already breaking the law by downloading pirated music, so this law will not affect them. If such legal changes are made, in order to continue listening to music in the manner I have been for years, I will probably opt to simply break the law - as I expect will the majority of iPod-owning Canadians. I will also seriously question whether or not such an industry should be supported financially by my hard-earned paycheques.

      Thank you for listening,
      [insert name here]

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    4. Re:Fight.. by tomhudson · · Score: 4, Informative

      wait since when did Canada have troops? I always figured you just sent a group of mounties out for those policing duties.

      (I live an hour from the border, I know what you do and don't really have)

      They're in Afghanistan ... remember? As for everyone else talking about invading Canada elsewhere in this thread ...

      Lets see - you can't use nukes, because we're too close, and you'd end up getting the fallout ... not to mention what it would do to supplies you import from us (oil, electricity, etc).

      You can't invade, because we can turn off the electricity, and a third of your electrical grid would immediately collapse, and much of it would stay down ...

      You can't use a trade embargo, because we supply you with more petroleum products than any other country in the world ... and the shortages would be immediate (pipelines - within hours), unlike tankers (lead times of months) ... think of a permanent "Hurricane Katrina" shortfall ...

      Also, we get along pretty well with Mexico, so they'd probably join us, so think of TWO Hurricane Katrinas ...

      Gee, why not just agree to continue to be good neighbours? Threatening us is more like putting a gun to your own head and saying "Stop or I'll shoot!"

    5. Re:Fight.. by Dachannien · · Score: 4, Funny

      You could also cut off the supply of your two greatest exports to the US: comedians and hockey players. We'd cave in about one season.

  2. what? by macadamia_harold · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Exacerbating the situation is intense pressure from the United States, where Canada is considered a rogue when it comes to copyright and intellectual property.

    You mean, "levy-paid-to-RIAA-on-all-blank-media-regardless-o f-use" Canada? Are we talking about the same country?

    1. Re:what? by temojen · · Score: 4, Informative

      No, it's Levy paid to CRIA for blank CD's and audio tapes (not HDDs or DVDs), but you can't be sued for downloading music or videos.

  3. Like anything by RichPowers · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It's harder to get fair use rights back once you lose them. Better to fight now than fight later...

  4. Conservatives? Yeah, sure. by dsanfte · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The Conservative Party in Canada is always on about cutting government intervention in the economy, and then goes and supports legislative corporate welfare like Bill C60. They're clearly just out to make their media friends some more bucks.

    Sadly, the biggest lie circulating is that these changes will somehow better promote "Quebec culture". There's this unfounded belief out there that more and more "protections" and "rights for creators", at the expense of their customers, will result in more content. I just don't see it.

    The US has some of the most restrictive copyright legislation out there, and the slide of music sales has only just now been stemmed by paid downloads. Where are the creators and all the extra content those laws were supposed to encourage? Yeah, on Youtube.com, giving their stuff away for free, rendering all these laws moot.

    If the Canadian government really wants to promote Quebec culture, work with Google to put up a Canadian bilingual version of Youtube on Google.ca. This is a no-brainer, guys...

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    1. Re:Conservatives? Yeah, sure. by JFMulder · · Score: 4, Informative

      Sadly, the biggest lie circulating is that these changes will somehow better promote "Quebec culture".
      Seriously? I mean, no offense, but if there's one culture that needs protection, it's the rest of the Canadian culture. The music and movie industry in Quebec is going great (not as great this year as last year tough). Quebecers actually go and see movies from Quebec. It's not the majority, but it's a non negligible portion. The rest of Canada don't watch a lot of movies from Quebec, but then, they hardly watch their own either.

  5. Re:Contact info by Mashiki · · Score: 4, Informative

    http://www.gc.ca/ is your friend.

    BERNIER, Maxime
    Parliamentary Address
    House of Commons
    Ottawa, Ontario
    K1A 0A6
    Telephone: (613) 992-8053
    Fax: (613) 995-0687
    E-Mail: Bernier.M@parl.gc.ca

    Constituency Address
    11535 1st Avenue, Suite 430
    Saint-Georges, Quebec
    G5Y 7H5
    Telephone: (418) 227-2171
    Fax: (418) 227-3093
    1083 Vachon Boulevard North, Suite 201
    Sainte-Marie, Quebec
    G6E 1M8
    Telephone: (418) 387-4224
    Fax: (418) 387-8124

    And

    ODA, Beverley J. (Bev) (Conservative)
    Parliamentary Address
    House of Commons
    Ottawa, Ontario
    K1A 0A6
    Telephone: (613) 992-2792
    Fax: (613) 992-2794
    E-Mail: Oda.B@parl.gc.ca

    Constituency Address
    68 King Street East, Unit 2
    Bowmanville, Ontario
    L1C 3X2
    Telephone: (905) 697-1699
    Fax: (905) 697-1678
    Toll Free: 1-866-436-1141

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  6. No problem by hammock · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I don't oppose this at all, however, first they have to refund the millions they have stolen by way of the blank media tax. As soon as I see some real money back that those motherfuckers stole from me when I bought backup media for my servers, we can talk about copyright reform.

    I am waiting to hear back from you.

  7. loose once and we' by ckedge · · Score: 4, Insightful

    JHC. We have to fight this all over again every fucking 1-4 years. Each time we win we only win for 1-4 years, and then we have to fight all over again.

    If they win once, just once, they've won. Period.

    How the fuck is this considered democracy? How are we supposed to prevent a perpetual slow glide down into tyrrany if they can keep passing more new laws forever and ever?

    Have you ever heard of a law being revoked or reversed?

  8. Re:Just another attempt to blame the US? by shaitand · · Score: 4, Insightful

    You think these are rights we still have in the US? Apparently you missed the part where the DMCA makes it illegal to excercise fair use rights if there is DRM in place.

  9. Same old story by troll+-1 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Close observers of the file say all signs point to a new regime that will improve safeguards for major music, film and media companies and artists for unpaid use of their material, but neglect to make exemptions for personal use of copyrighted content.

    Bullshit! You can reform copyright laws all you want, people are still gonna record their favorite shows and share stuff on P2P. Sharing copyrighted content, for example, is at an all time high, in spite of its illegality and all those *IAA lawsuits.

    Remember the US Betamax case? Yeah, if these guys had their way VCRs would be illegal. The problem is that their business runs on a static model. They seem incapable of seeing the world differently.

    You can moralize all you want about the rights and wrongs of technology but it doesn't alter the fact that it's here to stay and all the laws and lawsuits in the world won't stop people from copying (and distributing). It would be funny if it wasn't so pathetically sad.

  10. I just wrote this letter to my MP by acidrain · · Score: 4, Interesting

    And I would like to ask all Canadian citizens reading this to do the same. ------------- It is easy to overlook the erosion of our rights when faced with more pressing social issues, but I would like to ask you for a minute of your time to consider the implications of a change that the Conservative government is planning to make to Canadian copyright law. I'm writing you as a professional software engineer who is concerned about the planned extension of Canadian copyright into what is called "Digital Rights Management." As a person who makes a living producing work which is protected under copyright, you may find it ironic that I am opposed to this legislation. One reason for this is that in reality DRM effectively creates a monopoly environment which locks out creative individuals who are not in the employ of large corporations, and empowers those corporations to engage in anti-competitive activities. It does this by forever binding the use of things rightfully purchased to the day to day wishes of these corporations. Including limiting their use to devices and software who's producers have a financial obligation to the controlling corporation. I see no reason why our government should pass laws to protect the interests of these large foreign interests, at the expense of the rights and freedoms of Canadian citizens. The very citizens whom you were elected to represent.

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  11. Canadian Troop Deployment by camperdave · · Score: 5, Funny

    The majority of our troops are in Afghanistan. The third one is rowing the submarine.

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  12. Fight Online by CarlJagt · · Score: 4, Informative

    Fight Online -- send a letter asking for a balanced copyright reform: Visit http://www.onlinerights.ca/get_active/copyright_re form_action/

    Your letter will read:

    I am a constituent who cares about Canada's cultural policy, and I am writing in regard to legislative proposals for "copyright reform." During the last Parliament, Bill C-60 provided some very sensible approaches to this complicated topic, but it also left room for improvement. As you consider the issue of copyright reform, I hope that you will work to ensure that any new legislation is not a regression from the sensible policies set out in Bill C-60.

    In particular, I do not believe that "digital rights management" (DRM) technologies should stop the public from making lawful uses of their legitimately acquired media. Publishers using DRM push aside the delicate balance between copyright and the rights of the public - a balance set according to an assessment of the public interest by legislators - and replace it with one-sided rules that reflect publishers' private interests. Even artists disagree with publishers' anti-consumer use of DRM, as evidenced by the recently formed Canadian Music Creators Coalition. Therefore, as in Bill C-60, new copyright reform legislation should not make it illegal to circumvent DRM for lawful purposes.

    I am also concerned that the use of DRM can threaten computer security and consumer privacy, as in the recent Sony-BMG "Rootkit" fiasco. When content companies routinely use technological measures to control how people enjoy entertainment in the privacy of their own homes, I think we need protection *from* DRM more than we need protection *for* it.

    These concerns are shared by a substantial and growing number of informed Canadian citizens. I hope that you will take them into account when considering any changes to Canadian copyright law. Thanks very much for your time.

  13. Not going to pass without major amendments... by Hamster+Lover · · Score: 5, Informative

    For those that have no clue about Canada's current political situation, the governing Conversative party holds minority power, less than 50% of the seats in Parliament, and as such requires the votes of the other parties, the NDP, the Liberals or the Bloq Quebecois, to pass any legislation. The Liberals, which have the largest number of seats after the Conservatives, have also just elected a new, dynamic leader to head their party and he is out for blood. So, regardless of the legislation that is introduced it is going to be amended when the bill heads to committee (second reading), if it even gets that far. Once the bill heads to committee look for it to be sliced and diced by the opposition if for no other reason than to earn some political points with the public. A similar situation occured when the Liberals amended the Conservatives much vaunted crime reform bill and watered down or removed key sections of the legislation.

    Stephen Dion, the new Liberal leader, has also indicated that he will not co-operate with the Conservatives on any legislative initiatives and has intimated that he will vote to bring down the government on the next confidence motion and force an election. So we may not even make it that far.

    Don't hold your breath on this passing.

  14. Make this a voting issue..... by Kernel+Kurtz · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Make this a voting issue, and make it clear to your MP and other government representatives that it is. We have a minority government here right now, and an election is likely sooner rather than later. Issues like this could swing the balance of power, or make the difference between a majority or another minority government.

    I voted CPC last election, but if they take away my fair use rights they will not get my vote again. Ever.