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Kidnap Victim Visible Via Xbox Community Site
Via Joystiq comes the confusing tale of Shawn Hornbeck. Shawn was kidnapped more than four years ago, and his absence has made his parents worry and left a hole in his friends' lives. He's been returned safely home, so there's a happy ending to this tale. Strangely, though, he has been publicly visible for over a year now - via Xbox Live. From the Joystiq post: "The GamerTagPics profile for Xbox Live user 'DevilDevlin' shows the kidnapped Hornbeck outside what appear to be [alleged kidnapper Michael] Devlin's apartment. The profile was created Sept. 4, 2005 but hasn't been accessed since early 2006. DevilDevlin's Gamertag reveals that someone played Saints Row on the account as recently as Friday. It seems likely that Hornbeck used the account -- a Washington Post story reveals Devlin's neighbors 'often spotted Shawn out and about, visiting friends on his bicycle or playing video games with the apartment door open.'"
He was possibly playing Saint's Row and he is only 15! That game has an M rating! One can only imagine what this has done to that poor child's psyche.
I keep telling myself I'm not the desperate type.
Doesn't sound like kidnapping to me. "Hey kid, you wanna come play video games for a few years." "Sure, thanks mister"
I'm gonna need a spec.
gonna start looking through Xbox live users. You know for all the terrorist suspects and pedofiles (well you might find some of these type but) I can see it now
bush -------- "halo is being used as a training device for the terrorists, we need access to the user database. NukeDukeum1987 has been posting terrorist threats -
You are so Ded you think your 1337? bring it im gonna blow up your whole city than kidnap your son and make him my bitch-
If we cant monitor these people, they have already won."
have you seen my sig? there are many others like it but none that are the same
"Shawn was kidnapped more than four years ago, and his absence has made his parents worry..."
It's only January, and we already have a solid nomination for understatement of the year!
This sounds like something a third-grader would say while giving a book report.
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hiring psychics and losing a leg in the search of another missing person? parents with priorities so far out of whack could not have possibly taught their son the one thing that he set out to learn: how to respect a man's parking space.
This is more common then you would think.
It has to od with how a child determins whats safe and whats not. In the beginnibg, he was probably afraid and wishing to be rescued. After a while the attacker becomes the protector and it seems somewhat normal. also, the attacker does things to remind the victom they are the provider and protector, maybe slipping in some things about how his real parrent gave him away durring a poker game or something. After time this will lead to the kid/victom not thinking anything is wrong.
Don't believe me, just look at all these teen mothers who get stuck with some looser who refuses to get a job and provide for the family, they often get abused in the process too. They know it sucks yet they refuse to leave. It is the same thing. It happens quit often! and it usualy isn't because of the guy having a big dick either.
Of course i could be wrong and the kid wanted to stay for other reasons. Maybe a sexual relationship or something. I doubt it though. Even that would require some sort of conditioning simular to the previous to get the kid to stay. Especialy when another kid was introduced.
Devlin's neighbors 'often spotted Shawn out and about, visiting friends on his bicycle or playing video games with the apartment door open.
Y'know, call me crazy, but... Does anyone else find this entire situation somewhat unbelievable as a "kidnapping"?
In child kidnapping cases that don't involve a parent or close relative, they either:
A) Recover the child within a few days, or
B) Recover the body within a few months.
Yet, in this case, we have a kid missing for four years, found in good health, who had the freedom to leave the apartment and hang out with friends?
Not to take a "blame the victim" stance here, but did running into a friend's house and begging the friend's parents to call the police never cross this kid's mind? Hello?
Personally, I suspect the kid ran away and eventually hooked up with some random guy that let him live there. As for the second kid, well, I can't explain that one so well, but the "kidnapping" angle just doesn't sit right with me.
In some places, harboring an 11 or 13 year old runaway for that long is still kidnapping in the eyes of the law.
Even with the most benign explanation there is no excuse to have a kid in your house for that long without informing the family or CPS. It's just wrong on so many levels.
I'm sorry, but there seems to be some thing missing from this. Sure the kid was there for four years, but how hard would it have been for him to pick up a phone call 911 and say that I've been kidnapped. In the article, they said neighbors said the kid wasn't physically contained. He was often see playing with other kids and playing video games with the door open. The more that I read; the more I wondered what was missing. O.k. the kid didn't go to school, but other than that he seems to have been o.k. This is more surreal or freaking wierd than anything else that I can think of. When you think kidnapping, you think hey we have about a week or less to recover them if you are lucky the kid is still alive. If you aren't the kid was raped and left for dead some where. Most kidnappings are family custody things that I can't really swing one side or the other without alot more info than a tag line. I almost thought that was what this was. It wasn't a family custody thing though. This kid just appears to have been picked up when he was 11 and seems to have been happily living with the other guy for 4 years. WTF? I hope my kids would have enough sense to let me know not to worry about them or call 911 if they are given a chance: hopefully I'll never find that one out.
Ill try to be serious.
what does this prove other than the chances of it being a legitimate kidnapping are a little off
FTFA:
Authorities charged Michael Devlin, 41, a pizza shop worker who moonlights at a funeral home, with one count of kidnapping but revealed little of what they know. Publicly, they marveled at the rescue of two teenagers kidnapped four years and 40 miles apart, one of them all but given up for dead.
Also in the article it said the parents did all the talking, so ATM we don't know if he was kidnapped or ran away. Its just to difficult to believe that one can be held yet be allowed to roam free, ride his bike, and play with friends.
i got a feeling we will be seeing alot of interesting info turn up on this case.
have you seen my sig? there are many others like it but none that are the same
In child kidnapping cases that don't involve a parent or close relative, they either:
A) Recover the child within a few days, or
B) Recover the body within a few months. Ok: You're crazy.
You forgot the very usual C) The kid just vanished and is never heard from again.
You also fail completely to take the Stockholm syndrome into account, not to mention the fact that the kid was found after someone tracked down the van that was seen speeding away from where another kid was abducted, along with that other kid.
You can't take the sky from me...
Well said. Too bad I don't have any points.
No, really. Some kid who was apparently kidnapped has his picture online. The only possible reason I can imagine is that there is an 'online' aspect to this story. But seeing as everyone and their granny is online these days I don't see why this story is interesting. Look on youtube, you'll see plenty of more interesting pictures than a picture of a kid who wasn't kidnapped.
Doesn't it make you feel good to know that our freedoms are protected by politicans, lawyers and journalists.
More like MJ and Neverland
I saw this news item. Apparently the kidnapper was president of the local Mac users group. The FBI claims that Mac users are frequently involved in pedophilia.
Talk to any victim of sexual abuse you know. Most of them don't report it, especially while it's happening.
Fear and shame are very, very powerful forces.
What is truly scary is the thought that he kidnapped Ownby as a "replacement" for Hornbeck. Hornbeck had grown older, and was starting to look like an adult. Ownby is a very young looking boy.
Even more scary is the thought that Shawn may have been a replacement for someone else.
I'm certain that using a Mac doesn't make you crave sex with children. Perhaps pedophiles as a group recognise the superior security of Mac OS X?
... oh, I know it's that export ban on G5 processors. We should see a rise in terrorist Macintosh usergroups now that Apple has moved to Intel chips.
But in that case why aren't terrorists using Macs?
His name is XXmastorCheefRoxorsXX (it's a family name, on my mother's side.) I hope I can find him on Live...
Fuck I hope you're joking.
Uncyclopedia is an open wiki humor page. It is not Wikipedia!
Some of it is quite amusing, most of it is barely coherent Leeroy Jenkins jokes.
Two pre-teen males abducted by same kidnapper? I rather doubt he was aiming at starting his own gaming group. I won't speculate on why the kid didn't call home the first chance he got, but I rather doubt "paradise" is an accurate description of where he has been kept for the last couple of years.
Help poke pirates in the eyepatch, arr.
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"I believe today that my conduct is in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator"-Adolf Hitler or George W Bush?
You mean the guy that actually has the balls to stick out an entire war without whining and giving up because we could be hurting the bad guys' feelings? Or the guy that listened to the American people screaming for vengence after 9/11 and actually did something about it?
I'm not a Bush fan. His domestic policies tend to really suck. But at least he'll follow through with what he starts and not listen to all the wusses out there who have the retarded belief that the bad guys are just like us and can be reasoned with over coffee and donuts. The same people totally disregard what the civilians in the areas we're freeing tell them, namely had much they appreciate us, so that they can listen to the professional pull-it-out-of-your-ass opinions of their choice political ranting jerk off tell them that we're hurting these people. Sure pull out of the war effort so that thousands of innocent civilians are left to sort out a civil war for themselves while trying to keep any other evil dictators from taking over. We're Americans so we don't give a damn right? Just let the innocents die so that we don't have to hurt the feelings of the bad guys or take any kind of a moral position.
The war is the number one issue for me in the next election. I will not vote for anyone that is going to pull the troops out or otherwise undermine the war effort. We've spent time, money, and lives on this effort and I want to actually see results and not giving up. If anything, we need to step up and do something about Iran next. Clean that whole area out and occupy them for the next fifty years until we've finished resocializing their children and grandchildren.
A President that had the balls to win the war and the brains to create good domestic policy would be awesome. If any party can produce such a canidate I'll probably vote for them. Manage to find a canidate that is a good natural leader that can pull the parties together to get good things done and you'd have something pretty damn good. To bad the chances of that happening are almost nil. It seems only very polarized people can make it very high in office. People like me that are center don't have many options we like.
At what price learning? At what cost wisdom? The price is a man's peace of mind, and the cost is his life.
I've always been amazed in how abussive guys always have more women. A woman will admit that he is mean to her and possibly even violent towards her but she still comes back to him. If she can't be with him anymore she seeks out someone else like him. It's really incredible. It all comes down to the fact that assholes aren't afraid of being shot down so they're a lot bolder than most nice guys and that often assholes come across as being stronger which causes women to want them more. It's like putting out a bug light and watching bugs fly to it over and over again knowing it's going to destroy them all.
I can't imagine why intelligent women do this. They have to see through it to know they're making a mistake but they still do it. Not all of them of course - but a significant number. I guess though that it's just some kind of addiction and habit. You tend to do what you're familair with again and we seek pleasure now despite the cost later. People know that excessive drinking is going to make them puke in the morning but they do it anyway.
Of course then you have to wonder what makes men want to be mean or violent towards women and children. What kind of wuss takes out their anger and frustration on those that are weaker than them? Learn some freaking anger management.
At what price learning? At what cost wisdom? The price is a man's peace of mind, and the cost is his life.
Pizza manager is 'viable lead' in 1991 abduction
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Authorities are examining similarities between the disappearances of Shawn Hornbeck and Ben Ownby and the 1991 disappearance of 11-year-old Arlin Henderson from rural Moscow Mills. Both Shawn and Arlin were last seen riding bicycles, and Arlin bears a physical resemblance to Ben. Police said the recovery of Hornbeck and Ownby has breathed new life into the Henderson investigation.
http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/01/17/missing.boy.ap/i
Note: I guess short hair will now fall out of favor for boys.
Pretty sure, from an older, overweight, smelly pizza man. Free pizza, video games, and ass-love.
If England was ruled by an evil dictator that was violating human rights and encouraging terrorists then yes it would justify attacking England too.
At what price learning? At what cost wisdom? The price is a man's peace of mind, and the cost is his life.