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European Launch Site For Virgin Galactic

syguy writes "Sir Richard Branson's sub-orbital space tourism venture, Virgin Galactic, is considering a second launch site in Europe. Already committed to Spaceport America near Upham, New Mexico, USA, Virgin Galactic has signed a deal with the Swedish company Spaceport to investigate providing sub-orbital flights from Kiruna airport, Sweden. This is one of the northernmost commercial airports in the world. Branson is attracted by the possibility of offering flights through the Aurora Borealis. Flights could begin in 2011 or 2012." From the article: "The company said last year they would be conducting research into the safety of such a flight. Scientists have little information on how the storms that produce the northern lights affect spacecraft. [The] joint NASA-Canadian Space Agency THEMIS project will launch five satellites into space in February to monitor the northern lights..."

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  1. well by macadamia_harold · · Score: 4, Funny

    European Launch Site For Virgin Galactic

    If the galaxy has to lose its virginity somewhere, it might as well be in Europe.

    1. Re:well by The+Crooked+Elf · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Anyone else click "Read More" specifically to read the virgin joke you knew would be waiting in first post?

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  2. Er... what? by Ant+P. · · Score: 5, Funny

    Flying directly through what's essentially a planet-sized cathode ray tube? Isn't that, you know...

    Ah forget it, let Darwin sort things out.

    1. Re:Er... what? by qbwiz · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Doesn't outer space (where SS1 went) count as dark and extreme cold?

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    2. Re:Er... what? by HUADPE · · Score: 3, Informative

      Quite the opposite, when a star (namely the Sun) is shining on you, it's really quite hot, and full of EM waves, both light and some less friendly ones. The atmosphere keeps things warm at night and cool in the day. Swinging 300 degrees C when the Sun sets isn't fun.

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    3. Re:Er... what? by UncleTogie · · Score: 3, Funny

      One of five things could happen: You could get super stretchy, turn invisible, "flame on!", get rocky, or turn to living metal.

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    4. Re:Er... what? by Broken+scope · · Score: 3, Informative

      Thickness of said atmosphere would need to be very large. Then the issue of keeping said atmosphere near by.

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  3. Thank you for flying Virgin Galactic by brainspank · · Score: 5, Funny

    Chicken, Fish, or LSD sir?

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  4. Re:But who can afford it? by therufus · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The whole endevour is not intended for the general public, this is out and out a publicity exercise just as all Branson escapades are. The stunt will generate publicity for the normal carrier airline and in turn, generate revenue.

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  5. Let's see some flights by Timesprout · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Then get excited

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  6. what the hell? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    Branson is attracted by the possibility of offering flights THROUGH the Aurora Borealis.
    >>Auroras are now known to be caused by the collision of charged particles (e.g. electrons), found in the magnetosphere, with atoms in the Earth's upper atmosphere (at altitudes above 80 km). These charged particles are typically energized to levels between 1 thousand and 15 thousand electronvolts and, as they collide with atoms of gases in the atmosphere, the atoms become energized.
    >>As well as visible light, auroras emit infrared (NIR and IR) and ultraviolet (UV) rays as well as X-rays (e.g. as observed by the Polar spacecraft).
    So they are paying 200k+ to get radiated, gj virgin!

  7. virgin and marketing by romit_icarus · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Going by past record, =aAnything that virgin announces has to be tempered with a dose of reality. The fact is that Branson is a master in using PR publicity as marketing. In fact he has been often quoted in interviews saying that a headline and a newsworthy article is worth more than ad dollars (and he's right). Virgin Galactic is a good long term indea. It also makes for great news. Right now he has had "agreements" with launch sites. Let's see how much money he puts on the table, let's see some test flights and then we can judge.

  8. Oh my God! You know what *that* means . . . by StefanJ · · Score: 4, Funny

    " . . . flights THROUGH the Aurora Borealis."

    I hope Branson screens his passengers carefully, because everything I know about Science and Comics says they're going to come back with super powers.

    Is the world ready for Team Virgin and assorted super-villains?

  9. yes and no by ArcSecond · · Score: 5, Informative

    Closer to the equator minimizes the amount of energy you have to put in to get something into orbit, since the earth's rotational velocity at the equator is maximal, and the distance from the center of gravity is greater (planets bulge at their equators).

    But keep in mind, we are not talking about rockets and putting stuff into orbit. These craft are still more aero than space and the aren't being boosted into high orbit. Also, convenience for the target audience (rich people) is at a premium, not fuel.

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  10. Esrange attraction by G3ckoG33k · · Score: 3, Informative

    I doubt it was Kiruna's commercial airport that attracted. While little known outside Sweden, and definitely unheard of in USA, Franse, and Russia, Sweden has launched space rockets since 1966 in a station called Esrange. They apparently hope to sky rocket their already impressive launch list.

  11. Do they really know what they are doing? by Billy+the+Mountain · · Score: 3, Informative

    I wonder why they said in the article "Scientists have little information on how the storms that produce the northern lights affect spacecraft." Scientific research on the Aurora Borealis has been ongoing at the Poker Flat Research Range, located 30 miles north of Fairbanks Alaska, for almost 40 years where they have been routinely launching sounding rockets into the Aurora Borealis to study it's characteristics. http://www.pfrr.alaska.edu/ .

    BTM

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  12. Re:But who can afford it? by ArcticCelt · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Like for any technology, early adopters will pay the price. Thanks to the "super-wealthy", more money will flow into research and development to make the technology more affordable.

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  13. Re:Speaking of auroras... by Sterling+Christensen · · Score: 2, Informative

    Suppose a small weather system had an airliner fly through one of its clouds. Probably as much of an effect as that.

  14. Kiruna by tengwar · · Score: 2, Informative

    I've been through Kiruna a few times to go walking. It's a big, sparsely populated mining and forestry town in the Saami (Lapp) area of the north of Sweden. The air connection has to be subsidised by the government, and it's a long flight from Stockholm Arlanda in a very small plane. The air crew come round to ask who would like a taxi called for them at the airport. When you arrive, there's a single small luggage carousel and a large stuffed bear in Arrivals.

  15. Re:But who can afford it? by KindredHyperion · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Interesting how on the video on the flash version of the website, old Rich describes his company as bringing space travel to people of "all walks of life"... in just how many walks of life can people afford $200,000?? o_O

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  16. Re:Worth It by QuickFox · · Score: 2, Funny

    although you do have to go outside. Come on, try to be realistic! This is Slashdot!
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  17. Relocating the town by QuickFox · · Score: 2, Interesting

    The people of Kiruna are not only space exploration experts, they are also good at moving houses.

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  18. Re:But who can afford it? by kylegordon · · Score: 3, Informative

    To quote wikipedia...
    Furthermore, they believe that over a five-year period only 5,000 passengers would be needed in order to be profitable. Profits from early flights would be reinvested to make space tourism more affordable.