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Outdated Domains To Meet Their End
Dr. Eggman writes "The little used .um internet domain is no more. The domain was used, or rather unused, for US minor outlying islands and the University of Southern California's Information Sciences Institute had grown tired of maintaining it. This announcement comes as last month ICANN began taking comments on deletion of outdated suffixes. Among the top of the list? .su, the internet domain of the Soviet Union. The Soviet Union's .su may prove harder to remove however, as Google still lists 3 million .su sites."
In Soviet Russia
The Domain expires you . . .
We are Dead Stars looking back Up at the Sky
The dangers of knowledge trigger emotional distress in human beings.
And there was no opinion poll on this? (Of if there was, I missed it. I'm just not hip to the California cutting edge news.)
Now I can't make a site called Y.um
My first Journal Entry ever, in 8 years! http://slashdot.org/journal/365947/aphelion-scifi-fantasy-horror-poetry-webzine
Suffixes (and host prefixes) were a mistake. We ought to get rid of them altogether.
Apparently you "don't any" English either.
The TLD for bearded Russian sysadmins.
\u262D = \u5350
There are tons of words that end in 'um'. Why not sell domains there so people can get 'cesi.um' or 'im-a-b.um'? It would generate tons of revenue (just like .cx, .us, and .tv) and would free up some domain name space.
For those who are wondering, there are only 8 words that end in 'su'
I'm in the hole of the broadband donut.
Why not reassign the .um TLD to the umming and aahing community? There are many ditherers and the
like out there who'd love to have domains like "im-not-sure.um", "let-me-see-a-minute.um",
"tum-te-tum-te-t.um" etc.
From the linked article:
.su domain returned the following result:
The Soviet Union's ".su" is the leading candidate for deletion; that'll be harder to strike than ".um" -- a Google search produced more than 3 million ".su" sites.
The Google results were vetted to ensure those were 3+ million unique domains, right?
A Google search for sites from only the
Results 1 - 10 of about 2,670,000 for site:.su. (0.04 seconds)
I don't know what folks will do without www.jedi.su...
I want to drag this out as long as possible. Bring me my protractor.
Okay, so they've been dropping some ccTLDs, but IANA has Procedures for Establishing ccTLDs. So, when was the last time they created a new ccTLD?
June 2006
^speak
bah, that's why there are editors. Hell if you read either of my two books you'd not have such high expectations for me.
Someday, I'll have a real sig.
Lawyers!
had-an-accident-then.su
coffee-too-hot-well.su
Well, no big loss -- .sudo is a much better way of managing things anyway.
No jokes, please
If you're heading to "Jumping to insane conclusions land", any room for me in the car? I read his post and assumed he was a grand dragon of the KKK.
-- Using the preview button since 2005
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It's good to see ICANN doing some cleanup. For the past few years, they've been something of a trade group for domain registrars.
A few more TLDs could go. .museum and .aero could be phased out due to lack of interest. The entire list for .museum is a few pages, the domains aren't the top-tier museums, and almost all of them are redirects anyway. .aero has an entry for every airport code (try LAX.AERO), but those were put there by the domain registrar to give the illusion of activity and they're not the primary domain name for those sites. ("LAX.AERO" is really "WWW2.LAWA.ORG").
in soviet russia, that which is operated on becomes the operator and that which operates becomes operated on. it's a well known fact in the slashdot community
.su domain, when the slashdot community knows full well that in soviet russia, the .su domain drops you, then won't the void created by this logical paradox create a rift in time and space and kill us all?
.su alone!
.su, domain drops you!
the slashdot community is also familiar with the concept of logical paradoxes, like: "i never tell the truth"... well if you aren't telling the truth about never telling the truth, then perhaps you do tell the truth, which contradicts your statement. the resulting lack of meaning renders the entire statement null and void
now if we are to actually drop the
good god for the sake of humanity, leave
because in
intellectual property law is philosophically incoherent. it is your moral duty to ignore it or sabotage it
AFAIK, the .SU TLD was known to be obsoleted for a very long time. Think about it, USSR was no more years before web happened. People who bought names in there have themselves to blame for the trouble along with the registrar.
.su was a valid domain for email "back in the day". Note to grammatically challenged Slashdotters - note the correct use of "you're" and "your" in my first sentence. Read it and learn.
.su domain was meaningless as the USSR was dead for several years. I took a quick look at a few .su sites and they appear to be Russian sites that are for some reason too lazy to move over to the .ru domain.
You're showing your youth here. The internet was here years before the web existed and
However, you are certainly right that with the advent of the web that people should have realized that the
Probably 3 million pages, not sites. According to Russians (http://info.nic.ru/st/38/out_1362.shtml) there were 7897 domain names registered in .su TLD by 11/26/2006. And looks like they aren't going to give it up for nothing - .su domain is $100/year.
.su is designated as the TLD for companies and organizations that have a presence in many of the countries that used to be part of the Soviet Union. Basically, the same sort of role that .eu is supposed to play for Europe.
.su are pure politics: "the Soviet Union was eeevil, so we must erase all traces of it from the DNS system". Blergh. These people are trying to steamroll over numerous legitimate users of .su.
IMHO, the constant attempts to get rid of
.kkk, that sounds like a successful domain idea...
Ginga no Rekshiya Mata Each page.
...has someone got a link to a list of the ccTLDs to be deleted? I'm just asking because I'm getting nervous, because I have my own site on a "dead" ccTLD, but it makes for a very geeky domain: serial.io
.io is the british indian ocean territories, before someone asks...)
(...and
Could be worse. Could be raining.
No, you've got it all wrong. They already have your credit card number, so ordering is super easy!
http://www.w3.org/Provider/Style/URI
Shouldn't obsolete TLDs just be mothballed with further registrations prohibited?
It's not just a case of registering new domains for all those sites - think of the volume of inbound links that will break if a whole domain just vanishes overnight.
Baker and Howland islands were claimed in 1857. guano (aka bird shit) was mined on these islands during the 19th century. In 1935, an attempt to colonize these two islands was began; World War II forced an end to the project. Howland Island was Amelia Earhart's intended stop on her last flight. They both became National Wildlife Refuges in 1974.
Jarvis Island was claimed by the US in 1858, but abandoned in 1879 after tons of guano were mined. The UK claimed the island in 1889 and the US claimed it back in 1935. A settlement was started here, but World War II ended those plans. Jarvis Island became a National Wildlife Refuge in 1974.
Kingman Reef was claimed by the Guano Islands Act in 1856. It was annexed by the US in 1922. It was used a stopover by flying boats in the 1930's. Kingman Reef was transfered from the US Navy to the US Interior Dept in 2000; it became a National Wildlife Refuge a year later.
Johnston Atoll was annexed by both Hawaii and the US in 1858. In 1936, it was placed under US Navy control. The US Air Force gained control in 1948. In the 1950's and 1960's, Johnston Atoll was used for Nuclear tests, and until 2000 the Atoll was used for chemical weapons storage and disposal. In 2005, the Atoll's cleanup process was finished.
The Midway Islands were put under US possession in 1867. In the 1930's and 40's, the Islands were used a refueling stop. A key battle of World War II was fought here in 1942. Until 1993, Midway was a US Naval Station. They are also a National Wildlife Refuge.
Palmyra Atoll was claimed by Hawaii in 1858. When the US annexed Hawaii in 1898, it was a part of the deal. When Hawaii became a state in 1959, Palmyra was excluded. Today, it is privately owned.
Wake Island was annexed in 1899 for use as a cable station. In the 1940's, a Naval Base was built. Japan had control over the atoll from 1941-1945. Since then, Wake has been used as a refueling stop for trans pacific flights. Since 1974, the Island has been used by the military as an airstrip. In August 2006, a typhoon tore though Wake. Because of this, the island's future use is doubtful. Wake Island is claimed by the Marshall Islands.
Navassa Island was claimed for Guano in 1857. Mining of the stuff took place here from 1865 to 1898. A lighthouse was built here in 1917; it was used by the US Coast Guard until 1996. In that year, the light was shut off and the island was transferred to the S Interior Dept. It became a National Wildlife Refuge in 1999. Navassa Island is claimed by Haiti and a private claim exists as well.
For more about these islands, see the CIA World Factbook and Wikipedia.
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