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Google Opens Gmail To All

Reader Russian Art Buyer lets us know that GMail is now open for all ("Google Mail" in the UK). The service is no longer by invitation only. This welcome page shows an ever-increasing amount of storage available per user, currently about 2,815 MB.

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  1. Capacity drop? by Short+Circuit · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I wonder if we'll see a drop in storage capacity with the increased number of users.

    Also, my GMail account still says I only have 73 invites left. If it's open, why don't they drop the limited number of invites?

    1. Re:Capacity drop? by THE+anonymus+coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I doubt we will see a drop in capacity at this point. Everyone who wants a gmail account has had it for at least a year now, so I don't think many will come who haven't come yet.

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    2. Re:Capacity drop? by Short+Circuit · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Most people I meet on campus have never even heard of GMail.

      With Google holding the top search engine spot, they need only add a link to GMail to the search page, and they'll get millions more users.

    3. Re:Capacity drop? by duffbeer703 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The invitations had more to do with mapping social networks than limiting capacity.

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    4. Re:Capacity drop? by mfh · · Score: 5, Funny

      Most people I meet on campus have never even heard of GMail.

      Where do you go? Remind me never to hire any of those uninformed tech grads!
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    5. Re:Capacity drop? by LoverOfJoy · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Not everyone knows they want one yet. Others want one but aren't sure it's worth the price of dealing with a shift in addresses. My brother just recently accepted my invitation to gmail after getting fed up with all the ads on hotmail. I'd invited him long ago but he didn't want to have to tell everyone of his new email address. He's gotten to the point where it's worth switching and just occasionally checking up on his old address for the few that never got the notice of his change in address.

  2. Just checked... by nathan+s · · Score: 4, Informative

    ...and I don't see any way to sign up other than the "use your mobile" promotion that they've had going for a while. There's no link from TFA either.

    1. Re:Just checked... by cp.tar · · Score: 3, Informative

      You cannot log into Gmail using your Google Account username and password. GMail uses a seperate acount system.

      Does it now? I just launched IE to check it (easier than logging out of everything in Firefox) and the text above the login box said "Sign in to Gmail with your Google Account".
      So I'd guess that yes, you can log into Gmail with your Google Account username and password.

      And it doesn't ask for a cell phone or anything like it, either.

      I just wonder if they're going to drop the invites altogether...

      But I read somewhere below that the problem may be with you living in North America...

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  3. annnd checked again... by nathan+s · · Score: 4, Informative

    If I try to go to gmail.com, I get the old URL (the one with &ltmpl=m_wsad and no way to sign up) but the link in the summary (with &ltmpl=m_blanco ) has a sign up form. Interesting. This with clearing my cache first to be sure that it isn't a browser caching issue.

  4. It's about time... by jsight · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Now if only they would add IMAP support and improve security, they might have a chance of being successful with Google for Domains.

  5. Playing the same game MS played by 140Mandak262Jamuna · · Score: 4, Interesting
    First get all the data of the users into its servers, relatively easily, cheaply and painlessly. Like Word5' importing WordPerfect or Excel importing Lotus123 without any hitch. Once all the data is safely collected MS increased the switching costs and made it nearly impossible to get back to the competitors. Till date it keeps changing file formats, macro language, APIS, look and feel and tries enshrine even the bugs in Word5 as the new "standard" "open" document format!!!

    In the case of Google, it will find increasing the switching costs to get out of gmail not very easy. Reason are:

    1. It uses a simple browser as its interface and it does not have the same level of control over http protocols and XML protocols MS enjoyed over Windows platform.

    2. Users have become more aware of these issues. The resurgence of OpenOffice and fandom of Firefox shows that.

    3. Google says its motto is "dont do evil" and atleast part of its fan base is taking it at face value.

    Overall, IMHO, if google wrests significant portion of the data from the clutches of MS and shows how advantageous it could be for companies and users to keep their data in a format with eye on the switching costs it would benefit the consumers.

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    1. Re:Playing the same game MS played by thue · · Score: 5, Informative

      Google is actually "not being evil" here, by making it easy to extract your email.

      Just go to "settings"->"forwarding and pop" and select "Enable POP for all mail (even mail that's already been downloaded)". You can then download a copy of all the mail to your computer using a normal email client (You can choose to keep a copy on gmail). You can also get all mail automatically forwarded to an outside email address.

      That makes it easy to switch email provider; I used it the other day to download a copy of all my email, just in case. It seems to me that Google has chosen not to lock in users, but to simply try retain customers by being better. Which is the way it should be, and which makes me more comfortable relying on google services in the future.

      Regards, Thue

  6. Re:Not really by Monty845 · · Score: 3, Informative

    Maybe you should read the FAQ: "Can I sign up without the invitation code? Or without a mobile phone? You need to receive and enter a special invitation code in order to create an account. Currently, we are only sending these codes as text messages to mobile phones. So you will need to have a mobile phone with text message capabilities (most phones have this) and the invitation code itself. One of the reasons we are offering this new way to sign up for Gmail is to help protect our users and combat abuse. Spam and abuse protection are two things we take very seriously, and our users have been very happy with the small amount of spam they've received in their Gmail accounts. We take many measures to ensure that spammers have a difficult time sending their spam messages, getting these messages delivered, or even obtaining a Gmail account (spammers will often use many different accounts to send spam). Sending invitation codes to mobile phones via SMS is one way to address this, as the number of accounts per phone number can be limited. If you want to open an account a different way, you may want to ask a friend with a mobile phone to receive an invitation code for you or to ask someone you know who already has a Gmail account to email you an invitation. updated 2/7/2007" Show me where someone can signup without a code or a cell phone to receive a code...

  7. Re:Fastmail by Nimloth · · Score: 5, Informative

    I do have both except I pay for the Enhanced account at Fastmail. GMail doesn't compare in terms of features, with Fastmail offering full Sieve scripting, I've got my domain hosted and sieve lets me do pretty much everything I ever wanted to do with email. It's also great for managing spam.
    Fastmail lets me use webDAV to access my file storage, and I just love IMAP/IDLE support. With Fastcheck installed that monitors my mailbox with IDLE, the notification often pops up before I get it on my Blackberry (PUSH-based), something Exchange has never managed to do at work.
    I get loads of spam in my GMail even though I've never given it to anyone, which I think speaks for itself. 1 or 2 spams a week with Fastmail and I've had it for 8+ years.

  8. Re:Worldwide BETA by Overzeetop · · Score: 4, Insightful

    And this is different from other large applications like, say, Vista how?

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  9. Re:Not really by AKAImBatman · · Score: 5, Informative

    Gmail still requires either an invation or the ability to receive text messages.

    I haven't read the CNN article linked here, but I did read the article on my Wii last night. The long and short of it is that signup is geographically limited. Just about everyone not in North America is now able to sign up without going through the text message routine. The Google spokepeople have promised that North America will follow "soon".

    Hope that clarifies things.
  10. old article (2004) and you need a cell phone.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    That article is 2.5 years old.... There is no link at Gmail allowing a free signup without a cell phone.

    This is what Gmail says about signing up currently:

    Can I sign up without the invitation code? Or without a mobile phone?
    http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?ctx=m obile&answer=22245&hl=en

  11. Re:Surge in users? by daeg · · Score: 3, Insightful

    They have incentive to police spammers that use gmail accounts -- volume reduction. If every spammer that uses a gmail account sends enough e-mail to fill a full 2GB (in the Sent folder), that also nets 2 GB on the receiving end -- removing the spammer's account can reduce storage requirements by up to 4GB per spammer removed.

    They also will get a very nice benefit to closing spammer accounts -- their sent folders are 100% spam. What better way to see what tricks spammers are using than have 2GB of sent spam in one easy location? They can easily see what percentage of that spam folder was then in turn delivered as non-spam and how many users read it and marked it as not-spam.

  12. i love gmail by teh_chrizzle · · Score: 4, Informative

    i'll be the first to admit that i am a pretty serious google fanboy and i haven't used a fastmail account so proceed with caution.

    i have two public access unix accounts, one on SDF and one on hobbiton (hobbiton stopped being public access like 6 years ago). two years ago there was a sudden astronomical increase in the amount of spam that i was getting on both accounts. both systems had not yet set up greylisting or some other anti-spam measures and so i was worried that i would have to abandon an email address that i have had for almost 10 years.

    i got a gmail invite from a friend and set up my new account, and gmail has an option where you can choose to send mail as another account and make that the default method for sending mail, so i set up my gmail account to send as the two unix accounts and then added the gmail address to a .forward for each shell account.

    so now i use gmail as the central store for all of my email. now that both shell accounts have graylisting and other spam filtering i take advantage of that PLUS gmail's ability to bucket spam, so i have not seen a spam email in something like 6 months. i could go back to the old way (i look really oldschool using ssh to check my mail with pine) but i have become so lazy and spoiled thanks to gmail that there is no real reason to go back.

    so, if you want to keep your old address and switch to gmail, it is possible, provided your old provider has some means for you to forward your mail.

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  13. Re:Not really by montyzooooma · · Score: 4, Informative

    But if you're signing up for a gmail account you're already trading a certain amount of privacy away anyway.

  14. Re:Not really by jbarr · · Score: 4, Informative

    Maybe you should read the FAQ...
    Their FAQ pages have not been updated yet. As with almost all previous Gmail enhancementsit takes time to roll things out globally. When I navigate to Gmail.com using IE7 or Firefox, I see a nice "Sign up for Gmail" panel with a link that takes you right to a signup screen--no invitation is necessary. (Now, I'm using a company proxy that hits the Internet in Europe, so YMMV depending on your location.)

    Give it a day or so, and you should see the non-invitation link.
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  15. a nagging problem about gmail by supernova87a · · Score: 5, Insightful

    This may be a little off topic, but maybe many others here will benefit from discussing this same concern. I love Gmail, but there is a problem I see that's been slowly nagging me:

    I use Gmail to read the messages off my work/academic Pine accounts, and it has rapidly become my main way to check email because it has a great feature set, and Gmail doesn't pull some of the stupid tricks that other free email services do. I also use it to send messages (i.e. the "from:" field pretending as if it is one of the other work/school accounts I have), and rapidly I'm accumulating email on my Gmail account that now doesn't exist elsewhere.

    However, sometime in the far off future, Gmail may decide not to work one day, or there may be a new technology to replace it. We can't know for sure. So I would like to be able to have a backup of that mail just in case. As much as I trust Gmail and like Google, I need some way to keep my mail on my own, because if it were all lost, it would be awful.

    Couldn't they offer a service, for some reasonable amount of $$, where they would burn my entire Gmailbox onto a DVD and send it to me? With the size of my mailbox, POP downloading is becoming impossible, and this would also be a great way to give users some peace of mind.

    or has anyone else felt this worry, and come up with an interesting/workable solution??

  16. Re:Not really by jbarr · · Score: 5, Informative

    Per a user on the "Gmail Users" Google Groups, this may be only for certain non-United States locations. When I connect to Gmail from my home in the USA, I only get the SMS screen, but when I connect through my office (through a company proxy that hits the Internet in France) I get the non-invitation screen.

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  17. Gmail doesn't work with tabs by Pigeon451 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    My biggest gripe is Gmail doesn't work with tabs. When using webmail, I open email into tabs I want to read, and by the time I've finished clicking say 5 or so emails, they have finished loading into my browser and I can switch tabs to view them. Gmail doesn't allow tabbed browsing. Also I find Gmail's interface a bit clunky and limiting, much like Microsoft's products are.

    1. Re:Gmail doesn't work with tabs by smoker2 · · Score: 3, Informative

      My biggest gripe is Gmail doesn't work with tabs....Gmail doesn't allow tabbed browsing.
      It does if you select basic html as the page format.
  18. How do I receive SMS on a land-line phone? by tepples · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I noticed a link on mail.google.com
    marked "Sign up for Google Mail"
    http://mail.google.com/mail/signup Which local telephone companies in the United States allow land-line customers to receive SMS? Or do I have to sign up for a 24-month mobile phone contract at $30 per month?