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Google Opens Gmail To All

Reader Russian Art Buyer lets us know that GMail is now open for all ("Google Mail" in the UK). The service is no longer by invitation only. This welcome page shows an ever-increasing amount of storage available per user, currently about 2,815 MB.

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  1. Capacity drop? by Short+Circuit · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I wonder if we'll see a drop in storage capacity with the increased number of users.

    Also, my GMail account still says I only have 73 invites left. If it's open, why don't they drop the limited number of invites?

    1. Re:Capacity drop? by THE+anonymus+coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I doubt we will see a drop in capacity at this point. Everyone who wants a gmail account has had it for at least a year now, so I don't think many will come who haven't come yet.

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    2. Re:Capacity drop? by Short+Circuit · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Most people I meet on campus have never even heard of GMail.

      With Google holding the top search engine spot, they need only add a link to GMail to the search page, and they'll get millions more users.

    3. Re:Capacity drop? by duffbeer703 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The invitations had more to do with mapping social networks than limiting capacity.

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    4. Re:Capacity drop? by mfh · · Score: 5, Funny

      Most people I meet on campus have never even heard of GMail.

      Where do you go? Remind me never to hire any of those uninformed tech grads!
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    5. Re:Capacity drop? by LoverOfJoy · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Not everyone knows they want one yet. Others want one but aren't sure it's worth the price of dealing with a shift in addresses. My brother just recently accepted my invitation to gmail after getting fed up with all the ads on hotmail. I'd invited him long ago but he didn't want to have to tell everyone of his new email address. He's gotten to the point where it's worth switching and just occasionally checking up on his old address for the few that never got the notice of his change in address.

    6. Re:Capacity drop? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Yeah, cause it is not like they have any other way of knowing who you send email messages to...

    7. Re:Capacity drop? by ubergenius · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Seriously. No offense to wherever you go, but I know of no one... Literally, not a single person... who does not have a Gmail account, much less heard of Gmail.

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    8. Re:Capacity drop? by leenks · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Unless this was exactly what they were trying to model. Seeing how a popular service grows, and the type of person involved (geeks, researchers, "real users", etc) could be a very useful thing to do if you plan on giving away services in future and want to see the kind of infrastructure involved (think Google productivity suite or YouTube and modelling what kind of hardware would you need to support those as they grow).

    9. Re:Capacity drop? by spirit+of+reason · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Everyone who wanted one and was already looking for an email account has one. However, that doesn't include all the people (particularly teenagers) that decide they need an email account of their own now. They'll probably turn to the place they've grown up using for search, Google. And now it's easy to get an account on a whim.

    10. Re:Capacity drop? by Mark-Allen · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I've heard of GMail but have no desire to have an account. The idea that all my emails are sitting around on a company's servers that I don't trust sounds like a bad idea. Others may feel differently but Google isn't a company that gives me a high level of confidence.

      Their motto (whatever) "Do No Evil" is so lame, I won't even comment.

      And for those who believe that for-profit companies won't do "evil", well.... one man's evil is another man's profit.

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    11. Re:Capacity drop? by Short+Circuit · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I see my .edu email address as transitory. If I'm not a student there for a semester, it goes away.

      Same with work addresses; I doubt I'll be at one company, with a stable email naming system, my entire career. My GMail address, though, will stick with me as long as GMail is around.

  2. Just checked... by nathan+s · · Score: 4, Informative

    ...and I don't see any way to sign up other than the "use your mobile" promotion that they've had going for a while. There's no link from TFA either.

    1. Re:Just checked... by moranar · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Not for the Italian google mail service: it takes me directly to the signup page.

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    2. Re:Just checked... by cp.tar · · Score: 3, Informative

      You cannot log into Gmail using your Google Account username and password. GMail uses a seperate acount system.

      Does it now? I just launched IE to check it (easier than logging out of everything in Firefox) and the text above the login box said "Sign in to Gmail with your Google Account".
      So I'd guess that yes, you can log into Gmail with your Google Account username and password.

      And it doesn't ask for a cell phone or anything like it, either.

      I just wonder if they're going to drop the invites altogether...

      But I read somewhere below that the problem may be with you living in North America...

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    3. Re:Just checked... by xpiotr · · Score: 2, Informative

      I noticed a link on mail.google.com
      marked "Sign up for Google Mail"
      http://mail.google.com/mail/signup

      Could maybe be what you are looking for.

  3. annnd checked again... by nathan+s · · Score: 4, Informative

    If I try to go to gmail.com, I get the old URL (the one with &ltmpl=m_wsad and no way to sign up) but the link in the summary (with &ltmpl=m_blanco ) has a sign up form. Interesting. This with clearing my cache first to be sure that it isn't a browser caching issue.

  4. Not really by Monty845 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Maybe the submitter has a different definition of all than I, but Gmail still requires either an invation or the ability to receive text messages. While the number of people who can't get text messages may be small, there are still many people who cannot sign up.

    1. Re:Not really by bad_fx · · Score: 2, Informative

      Check again - they seem to have removed the requirement to receive the text message...

    2. Re:Not really by Monty845 · · Score: 3, Informative

      Maybe you should read the FAQ: "Can I sign up without the invitation code? Or without a mobile phone? You need to receive and enter a special invitation code in order to create an account. Currently, we are only sending these codes as text messages to mobile phones. So you will need to have a mobile phone with text message capabilities (most phones have this) and the invitation code itself. One of the reasons we are offering this new way to sign up for Gmail is to help protect our users and combat abuse. Spam and abuse protection are two things we take very seriously, and our users have been very happy with the small amount of spam they've received in their Gmail accounts. We take many measures to ensure that spammers have a difficult time sending their spam messages, getting these messages delivered, or even obtaining a Gmail account (spammers will often use many different accounts to send spam). Sending invitation codes to mobile phones via SMS is one way to address this, as the number of accounts per phone number can be limited. If you want to open an account a different way, you may want to ask a friend with a mobile phone to receive an invitation code for you or to ask someone you know who already has a Gmail account to email you an invitation. updated 2/7/2007" Show me where someone can signup without a code or a cell phone to receive a code...

    3. Re:Not really by wpegden · · Score: 2

      There's also the issue of privacy. Both methods of signing up make it difficult to set up an "anonymous" gmail account.

    4. Re:Not really by AKAImBatman · · Score: 5, Informative

      Gmail still requires either an invation or the ability to receive text messages.

      I haven't read the CNN article linked here, but I did read the article on my Wii last night. The long and short of it is that signup is geographically limited. Just about everyone not in North America is now able to sign up without going through the text message routine. The Google spokepeople have promised that North America will follow "soon".

      Hope that clarifies things.
    5. Re:Not really by montyzooooma · · Score: 4, Informative

      But if you're signing up for a gmail account you're already trading a certain amount of privacy away anyway.

    6. Re:Not really by jbarr · · Score: 4, Informative

      Maybe you should read the FAQ...
      Their FAQ pages have not been updated yet. As with almost all previous Gmail enhancementsit takes time to roll things out globally. When I navigate to Gmail.com using IE7 or Firefox, I see a nice "Sign up for Gmail" panel with a link that takes you right to a signup screen--no invitation is necessary. (Now, I'm using a company proxy that hits the Internet in Europe, so YMMV depending on your location.)

      Give it a day or so, and you should see the non-invitation link.
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    7. Re:Not really by jbarr · · Score: 5, Informative

      Per a user on the "Gmail Users" Google Groups, this may be only for certain non-United States locations. When I connect to Gmail from my home in the USA, I only get the SMS screen, but when I connect through my office (through a company proxy that hits the Internet in France) I get the non-invitation screen.

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    8. Re:Not really by toleraen · · Score: 2, Informative

      I'm guessing the GP is referring to the fact that gmail scans your emails to display ads. And if you stay logged in, they track your searches. And if you log into gtalk, it (optionally) records your conversation. I'm sure I'm missing some stuff.

  5. It's about time... by jsight · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Now if only they would add IMAP support and improve security, they might have a chance of being successful with Google for Domains.

    1. Re:It's about time... by gkhan1 · · Score: 2

      If by "improving your security", you mean that they don't use SSL when reading your mail, you are sadly mistaken. You can use SSL, they make it optional. If you go to https://mail.google.com instead of just http://mail.google.com/ (note the https), you get SSL all the way. If you meant "doesn't use PGP", well, no web-mail provider does. Use a client instead.

    2. Re:It's about time... by jsight · · Score: 2, Interesting

      It's a major weakness that I have to use a client for S/MIME capability, but they don't support the best protocol for doing this (IMAP).

      With regards to SSL, my issues there mostly apply to Google for domains. As far as I know, they don't allow you to mandate SSL for that either, and that is a weakness in an environment where you can't always trust your users to access with optional security every time.

  6. Re:Fastmail by jrwr00 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    as you can tell i show my email address on /.
    and the spame filter work well, i get some 5K in spam and MAYBE 1 email will get past

  7. Surge in users? by EveryNickIsTaken · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Great. Now we get to see how Gmail handles thousands of accounts being created just to send out spam.

    1. Re:Surge in users? by daeg · · Score: 3, Insightful

      They have incentive to police spammers that use gmail accounts -- volume reduction. If every spammer that uses a gmail account sends enough e-mail to fill a full 2GB (in the Sent folder), that also nets 2 GB on the receiving end -- removing the spammer's account can reduce storage requirements by up to 4GB per spammer removed.

      They also will get a very nice benefit to closing spammer accounts -- their sent folders are 100% spam. What better way to see what tricks spammers are using than have 2GB of sent spam in one easy location? They can easily see what percentage of that spam folder was then in turn delivered as non-spam and how many users read it and marked it as not-spam.

  8. It's just a publicity stunt by betterunixthanunix · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Come on. I can't think of anybody who wasn't able to get a GMail account. If a large number of users necessitated a drop in storage, it would have happened a long time ago.

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    1. Re:It's just a publicity stunt by harves · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I agree there won't be a large drop in storage space, but...

      I would expect there's a large number of people who don't have the option of using gmail. Remember, everyone you know, probably knows you; if they wanted GMail access they would ask you for an invite. What of those slowly-entering-the-technology-age households who don't have anyone they can easily ask? You know, the kind of people you *don't* hang out with? There's got to be a decent number.

    2. Re:It's just a publicity stunt by MMC+Monster · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Most people don't ask for invitations to new email systems. They use what they have or try to register a new one. GMail in the U.S. has been open so long as you have a valid (cell?) phone number, which is pretty good penetration.

      If someone wants a new service (particularly for increased storage), they would likely have heard about the increased storage (compared to what they had in the past, at least) at Yahoo mail and Hotmail as well.

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  9. Playing the same game MS played by 140Mandak262Jamuna · · Score: 4, Interesting
    First get all the data of the users into its servers, relatively easily, cheaply and painlessly. Like Word5' importing WordPerfect or Excel importing Lotus123 without any hitch. Once all the data is safely collected MS increased the switching costs and made it nearly impossible to get back to the competitors. Till date it keeps changing file formats, macro language, APIS, look and feel and tries enshrine even the bugs in Word5 as the new "standard" "open" document format!!!

    In the case of Google, it will find increasing the switching costs to get out of gmail not very easy. Reason are:

    1. It uses a simple browser as its interface and it does not have the same level of control over http protocols and XML protocols MS enjoyed over Windows platform.

    2. Users have become more aware of these issues. The resurgence of OpenOffice and fandom of Firefox shows that.

    3. Google says its motto is "dont do evil" and atleast part of its fan base is taking it at face value.

    Overall, IMHO, if google wrests significant portion of the data from the clutches of MS and shows how advantageous it could be for companies and users to keep their data in a format with eye on the switching costs it would benefit the consumers.

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    1. Re:Playing the same game MS played by thue · · Score: 5, Informative

      Google is actually "not being evil" here, by making it easy to extract your email.

      Just go to "settings"->"forwarding and pop" and select "Enable POP for all mail (even mail that's already been downloaded)". You can then download a copy of all the mail to your computer using a normal email client (You can choose to keep a copy on gmail). You can also get all mail automatically forwarded to an outside email address.

      That makes it easy to switch email provider; I used it the other day to download a copy of all my email, just in case. It seems to me that Google has chosen not to lock in users, but to simply try retain customers by being better. Which is the way it should be, and which makes me more comfortable relying on google services in the future.

      Regards, Thue

  10. Re:Fastmail by Nimloth · · Score: 5, Informative

    I do have both except I pay for the Enhanced account at Fastmail. GMail doesn't compare in terms of features, with Fastmail offering full Sieve scripting, I've got my domain hosted and sieve lets me do pretty much everything I ever wanted to do with email. It's also great for managing spam.
    Fastmail lets me use webDAV to access my file storage, and I just love IMAP/IDLE support. With Fastcheck installed that monitors my mailbox with IDLE, the notification often pops up before I get it on my Blackberry (PUSH-based), something Exchange has never managed to do at work.
    I get loads of spam in my GMail even though I've never given it to anyone, which I think speaks for itself. 1 or 2 spams a week with Fastmail and I've had it for 8+ years.

  11. Worldwide BETA by dlim · · Score: 2, Funny

    Open to the world, yet it's still a "Beta" application. Huh.

    1. Re:Worldwide BETA by Overzeetop · · Score: 4, Insightful

      And this is different from other large applications like, say, Vista how?

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    2. Re:Worldwide BETA by digitig · · Score: 2, Funny

      Oh, that's unfair. Windows is nowhere near ready for beta yet!

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  12. old article (2004) and you need a cell phone.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    That article is 2.5 years old.... There is no link at Gmail allowing a free signup without a cell phone.

    This is what Gmail says about signing up currently:

    Can I sign up without the invitation code? Or without a mobile phone?
    http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?ctx=m obile&answer=22245&hl=en

  13. Re:Fastmail by slumberer · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Yeah I have both and personally I have fastmail set up to just forward my email to gmail. It's a matter of preference but I find the gmail interface a lot easier to use than the fastmail one. As far as spam goes gmail does a great job of stopping it from getting to my inbox.

    The reason that I still use the fastmail account is because it still checks my other email accounts - especially my hotmail account - that I have stopped using but still have the odd email sent to. Gmail doesn't offer the same way of checking other email accounts but having fastmail forward to gmail works just as well.

  14. i love gmail by teh_chrizzle · · Score: 4, Informative

    i'll be the first to admit that i am a pretty serious google fanboy and i haven't used a fastmail account so proceed with caution.

    i have two public access unix accounts, one on SDF and one on hobbiton (hobbiton stopped being public access like 6 years ago). two years ago there was a sudden astronomical increase in the amount of spam that i was getting on both accounts. both systems had not yet set up greylisting or some other anti-spam measures and so i was worried that i would have to abandon an email address that i have had for almost 10 years.

    i got a gmail invite from a friend and set up my new account, and gmail has an option where you can choose to send mail as another account and make that the default method for sending mail, so i set up my gmail account to send as the two unix accounts and then added the gmail address to a .forward for each shell account.

    so now i use gmail as the central store for all of my email. now that both shell accounts have graylisting and other spam filtering i take advantage of that PLUS gmail's ability to bucket spam, so i have not seen a spam email in something like 6 months. i could go back to the old way (i look really oldschool using ssh to check my mail with pine) but i have become so lazy and spoiled thanks to gmail that there is no real reason to go back.

    so, if you want to keep your old address and switch to gmail, it is possible, provided your old provider has some means for you to forward your mail.

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  15. Re:Need Invite by theguru · · Score: 2, Funny

    Since I can't seem to find a way to contact you in your profile, here: http://mail.google.com/mail/a-918525b4ed-0d5b5e7fa 7-d5b4b8634a

    You get to race the rest of the world for it :)

  16. a nagging problem about gmail by supernova87a · · Score: 5, Insightful

    This may be a little off topic, but maybe many others here will benefit from discussing this same concern. I love Gmail, but there is a problem I see that's been slowly nagging me:

    I use Gmail to read the messages off my work/academic Pine accounts, and it has rapidly become my main way to check email because it has a great feature set, and Gmail doesn't pull some of the stupid tricks that other free email services do. I also use it to send messages (i.e. the "from:" field pretending as if it is one of the other work/school accounts I have), and rapidly I'm accumulating email on my Gmail account that now doesn't exist elsewhere.

    However, sometime in the far off future, Gmail may decide not to work one day, or there may be a new technology to replace it. We can't know for sure. So I would like to be able to have a backup of that mail just in case. As much as I trust Gmail and like Google, I need some way to keep my mail on my own, because if it were all lost, it would be awful.

    Couldn't they offer a service, for some reasonable amount of $$, where they would burn my entire Gmailbox onto a DVD and send it to me? With the size of my mailbox, POP downloading is becoming impossible, and this would also be a great way to give users some peace of mind.

    or has anyone else felt this worry, and come up with an interesting/workable solution??

    1. Re:a nagging problem about gmail by aug24 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Watch and see.

      Only last week, some poster here complained that there was no 'open in docs' link for .doc file attachments in gmail. All of three days later (IIRC) it appeared, and I've been using it with pleasure. I hadn't realised I wanted it till it was pointed out.

      So someone there is prolly surfing /. and you may get your wish.

      Justin.

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  17. Re:Fastmail by SpinyNorman · · Score: 2

    GMail seems to do a pretty good job of spam filtering - I can't recall getting any spam that wasn't detected and put into my spam folder, although I have to say that Optimum Online (having been though a couple of spam filtering revisions) now do a very good job also. The worst spam filter is Mozilla mail, which despite my "training" it daily since day one still lets large volumes of spam though every day.

    I guess being a giant provider of e-mail puts you in a good position to do filtering since you could (in theory at least - don't know if Google is doing it) simply see if the same mail/mail template is being sent to very many accounts and reasonably classify it as spam based purely on that.

  18. Now if only... by proxy318 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    They'd let you use some of that storage for Picasa's web albums. 250MB for pictures, almost 3GB for email? That's kind of ass-backwards.

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  19. Yahoo Mail Beta blocks Linux by Xtravar · · Score: 2, Informative

    And at the very same time, Yahoo Mail Beta has blocked Linux users. Maybe it's time to switch.

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  20. illusion of exclusiveness by mixtape5 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    G-mail is hardly exclusive. Anyone that wants a g-mail account can get one. Even if this story is not true, and they have not "opened it for all". I'm sure many of us have gmail accounts with a lot of remaining invites...all anyone who wanted a key has to do is ask around.

    Personally I think its a marketing strategy used by gmail to make people feel special by having it "invite only", but by making so many invites they have destroyed the exclusiveness of it :s

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  21. Gmail doesn't work with tabs by Pigeon451 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    My biggest gripe is Gmail doesn't work with tabs. When using webmail, I open email into tabs I want to read, and by the time I've finished clicking say 5 or so emails, they have finished loading into my browser and I can switch tabs to view them. Gmail doesn't allow tabbed browsing. Also I find Gmail's interface a bit clunky and limiting, much like Microsoft's products are.

    1. Re:Gmail doesn't work with tabs by smoker2 · · Score: 3, Informative

      My biggest gripe is Gmail doesn't work with tabs....Gmail doesn't allow tabbed browsing.
      It does if you select basic html as the page format.
  22. How do I receive SMS on a land-line phone? by tepples · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I noticed a link on mail.google.com
    marked "Sign up for Google Mail"
    http://mail.google.com/mail/signup Which local telephone companies in the United States allow land-line customers to receive SMS? Or do I have to sign up for a 24-month mobile phone contract at $30 per month?
  23. GMail is popular by meist3r · · Score: 2, Informative

    By the way: It's Google Mail in germany too because some other company holds the rights on a "G-Mail" brand.