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Sun Offering Optimized AMP Stack On Solaris

tbray writes "This is your friendly local Sun corporate drone reporting that we're going to be building and optimizing and DTrace-ing and shipping and supporting the AMP part of LAMP (details here). I think that basically the whole tech industry, excepting Microsoft, is now at least partly in the AMP camp."

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  1. The job isn't finished yet, until all of...(NICE!) by linuxbaby · · Score: 4, Interesting
    Great quote from TFA:

    The job isn't finished yet, until all of Apache and MySQL and PostgreSQL and PHP and Python and and Ruby and Rails are in the package, all optimized for Solaris, all stuffed with DTrace probes, and all with developer and production support available. It won't be long.
  2. Re:The "AMP Camp"??? by m0rph3us0 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    What makes the MS stack shine, is the developer tools. Try debugging through from the webserver to the webservices, debug the XSLT, down into the database and into the stored procedures in LAMP.

    If you could do it it would take at least 5 different applications running on different machines. There is nothing like being able to watch a particular users request flow right through the whole system. Yeah it takes a few minutes to setup all the watch conditions on production hardware, but in DEV it is just beautiful.

  3. Re:Yawn.... by gstoddart · · Score: 5, Interesting

    A while back there were some interesting comparisons of SQL performance on Darwin/Mac OS X versus Linux, under controlled conditions on similar hardware

    Ah, but remember -- Sun can sell you a machine which goes well beyond the whole 'similar hardware'.

    If they can sell someone an optimized, supported, and enterprise-class piece of hardware which is basically turnkey, and can fill the job of being your web-facing front-end, there will be companies for whom this is a very good idea.

    What Sun can sell you is the higher end for which there is no way you could build it with a commodity PC. Enterprise customers have enterprise hardware needs, and enterprise mindsets. Being "PHB Compatible" is a valuable thing in business, cause if things go to shit, you have someone who can come in and make things go again.

    Sun isn't trying to get the hobbyist shop; they're targeting higher end companies with bigger budgets who want reliability.

    If for nothing else than they're going to support the AMP stack, I have to commend Sun on this decision. This can only be good for those parts of the stack, and it won't really hurt Linux in any way -- this is complementary. This will have the effect of giving PHBs an option which uses Apache, MySQL, and PHP/PostgressSQL (whichever it is). I don't see this as being a 'lose' for the OSS people.

    Why is Slashdot so pathologically opposed to someone buying a computer and operating system, even if it makes sense for their business goals?

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  4. Re:SAMP VS LAMP by joe_bruin · · Score: 4, Funny
    No doubt, SAMP > LAMP.

    strcmp confirms it, SAMP is greater than LAMP!

    $ cat amp.c
    main() { printf("%d\n", strcmp("SAMP", "LAMP")); }
    $ gcc amp.c
    $ ./a.out
    1
  5. Re:The "AMP Camp"??? by killjoe · · Score: 4, Informative

    "Yeah, because they have ASP.NET, which pretty much blows the doors off of most other things productivity-wise."

    As a ASP.NET programmer let me be the first one to say BULL FUCKING SHIT!!!.

    ASP.NET makes it easy to slap controls on a screen and bind them to a recordset. If that was the entirety of your programming efforts then it would be productive. In the real world that's like 10% of job or less. In the real world I have debugging, refactoring, building, deploying, testing, and a billion other tasks where visual studio gets in my way and windows itself throws up roadblocks the size of winnebegos.

    When you consider the the whole of the software development life cycle ASP.NET and visual studio are at the bottom of the stack.

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  6. Get Some Clues - One, Perhaps Two by Smackintosh · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The answer is in the form of a question: do you have any clue as to what you're talking about?

    I'm being completely serious here.

    Anyone who knows anything about the IT marketplace will know that of the UNIX-variant operating systems (yes, that includes Linux), Sun Solaris has quite a significant share. In fact, a good deal of the professional UNIX admins out there prefer Solaris over the other choices, and again, that includes Linux.

  7. Re:The "AMP Camp"??? by larry+bagina · · Score: 4, Funny

    LAMP still easily give you the best price/performance.

    Illegal division by zero

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