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Kansas Adopts New Science Standards

porcupine8 writes "The Kansas State Board of Education has changed the state science standards once again, this time to take out language questioning evolution. This turnaround comes fast on the heels of the ouster given this past election to the ultra-conservative Board members who originally introduced the language. 'Science' has also been re-redefined as 'a human activity of systematically seeking natural explanations' (the word 'natural' had been previously stricken from the definition). If you'd like to see the new standards, a version showing all additions and deletions is available from the KS DOE's website (PDF)."

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  1. Re:"God Says it" by SimHacker · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    It's simple: Most Christians are stupid. The ones who aren't are intellectually dishonest, perfectly willing to believe contradictory statements and lie to themselves and their children.

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  2. Please sir, can I have another? by spun · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    Waste your mod points modding me down. I have more karma than God, you can't fucking touch me, bitches.

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  3. Re:"God Says it" by SimHacker · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    How is it bigoted to call somebody who lies a liar, or somebody who believes something probably wrong an idiot, or somebody who says they're one thing but believes and practices something else a hipocrite?

    There's no reason to treat Christians or any other kind of religious fundamentalists like children, and pretend that Santa Clause exists in order to avoid hurting their feeling. That's bullshit. Their false beliefs and foolish actions are tearing apart society. Why should we respect the religious beliefs of the terrorists who knocked down the World Trade Center, because they had heart-felt beliefs that it was the right thing to do?

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  4. Re:There are all kinds by drinkypoo · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    Those people who claim to be Christian, but don't believe the bible, are simply liars and self deceptive self serving fools.

    Those people who claim to be Christian, but follow the bible blindly, are simply liars and self-deceptive, self-serving fools.

    The bible was written and repeatedly re-edited by Men. The versions that we tend to read today have been translated at least twice. The oldest known manuscripts of the Bible were destroyed when the Library of Alexandria was burned.

    These edits were made for a variety of reasons; there are simple errors in transcription, there are more complex errors in transcription where an undereducated scribe thought that a word was wrong because he simply didn't know the word, there are errors introduced when someone didn't understand a story and sought to "clarify" it, and there are errors introduced deliberately to serve a certain political goal. To accept the bible as a work is to ignore history. Also, there are many bibles! Which one is right? Only one of them can be the Word Of God. Anything else is some words of God, spoiled by some words of man.

    The Bible and the Church do not say that you get to make up your own fairy tails. They are the word of God.

    First, that's "tales". Note that there were errors like that in the bible, and sometimes one word thus misspelled was mistaken for another, then "corrected" by a scribe, thus completely changing the meaning of a passage.

    Anyone who believes that the Bible is the direct word of God is a brainwashed fool. Anyone who tells you that but doesn't believe it has an agenda and is using the religion's dogma as a system of control.

    If Christians were allowed to arbitrarily re-interpret the bible and throw away the parts of it they didn't believe, then it would be a very different book.

    What you are apparently incapable of comprehending is that the bible that you read is the result of literally hundreds of people re-interpreting the bible, throwing away what they don't believe, and even adding things they feel should be in there.

    Christianity is very well defined, and there is no room for people who make up their own mythology.

    There are many sects of Christianity. Many of them have very different views about some things. There are only a few things you have to believe to be a "Christian", like you must believe in the holy trinity, and that jesus is your salvation. But then you have the weird cult of Catholicism, in which you engage in a ritual form of cannibalism. In their belief, you must eat the body and drink the blood of Christ to be saved.

    They may call themselves Christians, but they're not.

    This raises an interesting point. The books written by Paul/Saul were written and added to the bible later in its compilation than those works from other primary authors, and they tell a very different story of Jesus' life than any of the other authors' accounts. It is only in Saul's works that Jesus performs hugely miraculous acts, and only in his books that Jesus takes on his Godhead. In no other author's works does Jesus himself ever claim to be the son of God. Thus, it is arguable that Saul himself was not really a Christian, that he co-opted the religion and turned it towards his own views (or some political purpose.)

    It's unfortunate that you are here talking about how you have to buy into the Bible when you don't actually know anything about it.

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  5. Re:I'm confused - which "evolution" are we talking by Arba · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    Adaptation of a species within itself is one thing, but most people that preach the Evolution faith, preach the gospel of species changing into other species. They also preach the dogma that Evolution is fact, when it is far from it. Anyways, as much fun as this debate is, I'm going to leave my house, which seems to have evolved out of the ground on its own, and I'm go jump into my car that has evolved from who the pile of crude oil and metals it started from, and go look after a customer now, who apparently evolved from the ocean.