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OLPC Has Kill-Switch Theft Deterrent

Sid writes "Ars Technica reports that the One Laptop Per Child (OLPC) XO has an anti-theft daemon in the OS that can be used to remotely disable machines, much like WGA. The Project added the kill switch at the behest of a few countries concerned about laptop theft. From the report, 'OLPC has responded to such concerns by developing an anti-theft daemon that the project claims cannot be disabled, even by a user with root access. Participating countries can then provide identifying information such as a serial number to a given country's OLPC program oversight entity, which can then disable the devices in certain scenarios.'"

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  1. How long before M$ copys this and cames it........ by Joe+The+Dragon · · Score: 2, Informative

    Wait vista can do this.

  2. Re:How long before M$ copys this and cames it..... by silentounce · · Score: 5, Funny

    Psshaww... Sony's laptops have much more effective kill switches than this.

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  3. Limited Deterrent by Nerdfest · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Sadly, I would imagine it will be a very short period of time before the feature is defeated. It's still a deterent I suppose, just not as much of one ...

    1. Re:Limited Deterrent by truthsearch · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Probably like "The Club" for cars. It'll slow someone down and may prevent some casual theft. But if someone really wants it they'll still be able to steal and use it.

    2. Re:Limited Deterrent by Loconut1389 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Maybe off-topic, but my in-car DVD player has a removeable face that supposedly is coded and all of that and only replaceable by Phillips, yatta yatta yatta, but if you push in the lever on the front, the thing fires up and works like a charm. I did have a Kenwood MD/CD player that was definitely coded, but I didn't have access to another front panel to test that for sure, but it most definitely didn't work by pressing the contact switch, it just beeped a warning beep.

      This is not to say that OLPC's thing is bunk- it probably isn't, but as far as some of the car things go, it's only apparent security, not actual.

  4. Potential Abuse Issues by broller · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The potential for abuse here is pretty high. If the controlling government (Read: whoever controls the Internet connection and licensing servers, so maybe a corporation) wants to keep the people in line, they can just threaten to turn everyone's laptop off. If an invading nation wants an information blackout, shut everyone's laptop out.

    1. Re:Potential Abuse Issues by chanrobi · · Score: 5, Insightful
      If the government already controls all the internet this entire "abuse potential" scenario is moot.

      If an invading nation wants an information blackout, shut everyone's laptop out.

      Yeah since information only flows through laptops... right? How the hell is this modded insightful.

    2. Re:Potential Abuse Issues by BecomingLumberg · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Plus, I hope the invading nation uses a laptop somewhat more powerful than the OLPC.

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  5. Re:what certain scenarios? by Spad · · Score: 4, Insightful

    In most cases the value to the thief is not in the object itself but in its resale value. If they know that the laptops will be bricked before they can shift them, it might deter some people from swiping them.

  6. It will get cracked very quickly..... by 8127972 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    ..... Just look at what's happening to the guys who do DRM for the MAFIAA. Face it, ANYTHING can be cracked if you try hard enough.

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    1. Re:It will get cracked very quickly..... by SirTalon42 · · Score: 3, Interesting
      "Face it, ANYTHING can be cracked if you try hard enough."

      From the Bitfrost specification (which this killswitch is part of):

      "But pushing the envelope on both security and usability is a tall order, and as we state in the concluding chapter of this document, we have neither tried to create, nor do we believe we have created, a "perfectly secure" system. Notions of perfect security are foolish, and we distance ourselves up front from any such claims."

      http://dev.laptop.org/git.do?p=security;a=blob;hb= HEAD;f=bitfrost.txt
  7. IMO: Not possible by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    If the user has root access, then it is his box. Any component can be removed, including the dhcpcd client which attempts to enforce this rule.

    It is only "possible" if you agree to run their software as installed.

    Their reliance on GPL components should make it clear which components need to be replaced to avoid asking permission to continue using the software.

    1. Re:IMO: Not possible by sumdumass · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Not if the lock is in firmware on a chip somewhere simular to Tivo's DRM. But then It cannot run GPLv3 code after this. Such a pitty.

      Unless they alread thought about this and are using the same provisions that lets GPLv3 code work with a GPLv2 kernel and call it an agregate. Then the point of the GPLv3 restrictions are usless if the lock only stops the GPLv2 code from working.

      And to all those thay want to say But the GPLv3 says this, The GPLv2 says "no further restrictions can be applied". And restrictions in a GPLv3 license whatever the final release is, has to honor this unless it is actualy incompatible and can no longer be used with GPLv2 code. You can have the cake, eat the cake but you need to assemble the ingredients to make the cake before any of that happens.

    2. Re:IMO: Not possible by SirTalon42 · · Score: 2, Informative

      The mechanism the laptop will use IS like the Tivo DRM (in fact there was a discussion on lwn whether Bitfrost is drm or not, and whether it would violate the GPLv3 or not). I believe Bitfrost WILL be GPLv3 compliant because the owner of the machine can request a developer key which will allow them to modify anything on the system (even remove the daemon). To prevent the thief from just requesting the developer key theres a 7 day waiting period (to confirm that the laptop hasn't been stolen) and then the key is issued. If the child already has the developer key, and then the key and the laptop are stolen, then the thief can disable the daemon themselves and get around the security. Also the developer keys are machine specific so stealing 1 key won't let you bypass the security on all machines.

      This SHOULD make it very hard to defeat the anti-theft daemon (it doesn't reside in dhcpd btw, also removing internet access for 21 days will brick the machine anyways).

      Bitfrost is much more than just the kill switch and is actually quite interesting, and at least in theory sounds like it would be quite effective.

    3. Re:IMO: Not possible by sumdumass · · Score: 2, Funny

      The mechanism the laptop will use IS like the Tivo DRM (in fact there was a discussion on lwn whether Bitfrost is drm or not, and whether it would violate the GPLv3 or not). I believe Bitfrost WILL be GPLv3 compliant because the owner of the machine can request a developer key which will allow them to modify anything on the system (even remove the daemon). To prevent the thief from just requesting the developer key theres a 7 day waiting period (to confirm that the laptop hasn't been stolen) and then the key is issued. If the child already has the developer key, and then the key and the laptop are stolen, then the thief can disable the daemon themselves and get around the security. Also the developer keys are machine specific so stealing 1 key won't let you bypass the security on all machines.
      Interesting. But even without getting the key, I don't think they would have anything to worry about. The use of GPLv3 items either does place futher restriction on a GPLv2 or it doesn't. So far, It is being claimed that it doesn't to be compatible with a GPLv2 kernel in that it can still be distributed with it so the same rules could apply to TIVO or OLPC.

      Bitfrost is much more than just the kill switch and is actually quite interesting, and at least in theory sounds like it would be quite effective.
      I going to look more into it. It does sound like something that could be used in other areas. Like in chip manufacturing were a company (lets say soundblaster) could make one chip very well and limit the abilities on it to sell cheaper versions to the public. This could simplify the entire production process and eventualy make the product cheaper in the long run. Verry interesting indeed.
  8. Massive Backend Infrastructure and Processes by blantonl · · Score: 5, Insightful

    So, does this mean that the OLPC project is going to need a back-end infrastructure to support this Daemon? With the amounts of laptops considered in this project, that means that a pretty large back-end infrastructure is going to be needed to support this process.

    In addition, there's going to need to be a tremendous amount of "process defintion" for something of this scale. What constitutes a "stolen" laptop in this case? How is it reported? To Whom? Who is ultimately responsible?

    Sounds like a massive undertaking and far from clearly defined, other than a "Daemon is available."

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  9. Re:How long before M$ copys this and cames it..... by xtracto · · Score: 2, Funny

    I was able to do this and *much more* with Microsoft operating systems. I was able to turn off the computer, open the CD-ROM drive and even play sounds remotely using utilities such as black orifice or sub-seven.

    Gosh, this is nothing new...

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  10. So a hacker could disable OLPCs? by poopie · · Score: 4, Funny

    I can see the writing on the wall.

    Greetz griefers! Want to 0wn the n00b in your class? download this script and run it to disable anyone's OLPC.

    Here's what you do: ...

    1. Re:So a hacker could disable OLPCs? by cduffy · · Score: 2, Insightful

      The command has to be RSA-signed, and the OLPC project folks aren't giving out the private key used to provide the signature.

      So no, we aren't going to see forged kill requests.

    2. Re:So a hacker could disable OLPCs? by cduffy · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Until what is hacked?

      RSA? That old dog has still got some life in it yet. Their specific implementation of RSA and how it interfaces with the mechanism for actually throwing the kill switch? Maybe. Depends on whether the crypto validation happens in software or in hardware; in the latter case, they could actually do the crypto in hardware (low-performance RSA hardware implementations are dirt cheap) and not provide any other mechanism to trigger the kill switch -- thus, in this situation there would exist no possibility for the software to be hacked to bypass that check.

      This isn't like software-based DRM, where the decrypted bits need to be fed back into a fully programmable mechanism somewhere. This is a security device built into a dedicated hardware system; if done right, it need not have any of the vulnerabilities 'yall around here are accustomed to.

      Hacking the HQ is easy to avoid -- just like with any important key, you don't keep the system online; when you need to do work on it, you move your data on and off via static media (my employer uses a USB key for moving CSRs onto and certificates off of our fully disconnected CA). The HQ being ransacked is a slightly different matter, but given that it's located in a 1st-world country with an effective police force, that kind of thing doesn't happen so often.

  11. Censorship? Extortion? by Radon360 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Sounds to me like a convenient way to gag someone that a government doesn't want to be heard. "Are they making derrogatory comments about the leadership? Well then, just turn their computer off."

    I suppose, it probably will only be a matter of time before some individual will figure out (in their mind) that this is a good way to extort money from someone else. "Send me $nn or I will disable your computer(s)." Then again, if they're using a $100 laptop given to them, what money would there be to extort?

  12. That's too abusable by paladinwannabe2 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    That makes it too tempting to give the laptops to people you want monitored- For instance, I could give it to random kids, and then figure out their schedules, where they live, and when they are alone in the house. And that's just scratching the surface- give me some time and I can think of worse abuses you could do with some sort of monitor on the computers.

    De-activating the laptops prevents people from stealing and using them, but it also means that if some hostile person has access to your shutdown keys, they can take your laptop but not your data.

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    1. Re:That's too abusable by SirTalon42 · · Score: 3, Informative

      The monitor only lets the OLPC authority shutdown the machine IF the anti-theft server says the machine has been stolen, OR the laptop is kept from accessing the server for more than x days (21 I think). And the daemon CAN be disabled, if the child requests the developer key from the OLPC authority (theres a 7 day wait to make sure the laptop wasn't stolen between the request and giving the key). The laptop uses code signing to prevent the operating system from being permanently modified (if you have the master key(s), or the developer key, you can modify it as much as you want, if you don't you can modify most of it but only in a copy of the system files, its a very nice way to allow most of the system to be modifiable by the kids, but if they bork it, you can just reset to using the original system files (assuming you didn't modify the original using the master/developer keys).

      Now if the thief steals the developer key with the laptop, then the daemon is useless (unless they're too slow), and in the BitFrost document they acknowledge that theres is no way they can guarantee no laptops will be stolen, just try and discourage the thiefs.

  13. That's not anything like WGA. by Hymer · · Score: 2, Informative

    That's the same functionality as in GSM and UMTS phones: You call, tells that device is stolen and wich IMEI-no. it has and it is then globally disabled.

  14. Re:Orwell lives - why steal cheap plentiful laptop by silentounce · · Score: 2, Informative

    US$100 may not be much here, but it is more than the majority of people make in a month.

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  15. Renting out stuff ... by Gopal.V · · Score: 5, Insightful
    As an Indian from a relatively unconnected neck of woods, I love the OLPC project and what it might do to the future students of this world - and I've even played around with an OLPC for thirty minutes. But this particular feature annoys me a bit. I quote from the article.

    the system allows countries to optionally establish a "license" period for the laptops, such as 21 days.
    When laptops are connected to the Internet, they will synchronize with an NTP server to obtain the correct
    time and date, and then obtain a license which must be renewed in the time specified. Laptops which are not
    renewed within the timeframe will lock.

    As I mentioned before, the whole concept of an unconnected laptop or one with minimal internet access (i.e wireless mesh) goes for a toss with this feature. The worst of the activation features which windows has, negating the real advantage of having a laptop you could take literally anywhere. Locking out someone just because they couldn't hook their PC into the network for twenty days is no way to make OLPC work. The real way to keep them off the black market is to reward those who keep their machines intact - just like the way to get kids to come to school has been a free lunch programme (and I sit in an Indian state with 99% literacy rates).

    Or if you're really interested in reducing the utility of the machines, send an access code to the school master every month - for the laptops to get on the internet. You need to go pick up the coupon to get back on the internet and just kick the ones which are reported missing in audits - rather than go in for an active licensing scheme as mentioned in the document.

    But in general, technical solutions for social (as well as economic) problems hardly work out, by themselves.

    1. Re:Renting out stuff ... by Coryoth · · Score: 2, Informative

      I think the important point is that the OLPC project "allows countries to optionally establish a license period". I agree that it is hardly ideal, but it is being offered as an option because some countries demanded a feature of this kind. Other countries aren't quite so silly and won't enable the option. I think realistically one of the greatest theft deterrents for the XO machines is that they are seriously targetted towards young children. Sure there are geeks on Slashdot who would love to get their hands on one anyway - it is a linux machine after all, and anyone with sufficient nouse could make it do some fun and interesting stuff. That makes for a fairly small market however. It's not like you can grab one of these things and install Windows on it to have a laptop. If you steal one of these things you'll either have a machine with an unfamiliar interface designed for children and very little software that is particularly useful outside of an educational setting. You'll have to know what you're doing to get anything more out of it than that... and if you know what you're doing then you're more than likely in a position to cheaply and much more easily get and set up a laptop for your needs.

      I think you'll find that the XO machines prove to not be terribly attractive targets for theives because they are so target specific - I don't think many people other than kids (and shameless geeks such as hang out here) are going to be able to do much useful with them, and if it isn't going to be very useful, why steal it?

  16. This won't be used for theft prevention, by rben · · Score: 3, Insightful

    It will be used to shut off the machines of disadents. Governments don't seem to care that much about machines being stolen, but they do care about giving power to political opponents. If I buy a machine, I should have complete control of it. No one should be able to remotely turn off the machine without my explicit authorization. I can't think of any way to make a feature like this safe from abuse.

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  17. OLPC becoming Big Brother? by PetiePooo · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I have to say, I don't like the decidedly big-brother tilt the OLPC project has been taking lately. With all the news that has come out lately on OLPC, the whole "users will be able to read/understand/modify its source code" stance seems to have gone away.

    If I can read and compile the O/S, who's to say I can't just remove the kill daemon from my build and then install it? In order to be robust, they'll have to lock down the installed software and make it impossible for the user to change. No community development; no share-and-share-alike; no software libre, counter to the whole "open source" philosophy they tout as the project's base.

    This isn't a hacker's dream toy; its a business proposition to sell expensive supporting infrastructure and services along with a loss-leading locked-down client device disguised as charity in the name of educating the poor.

    1. Re:OLPC becoming Big Brother? by ChrisUK · · Score: 2, Insightful

      > If I can read and compile the O/S, who's to say I can't just remove the kill daemon from my build and then install it?

      Nothing at all. The article is misleading -- if you want to remove the anti-theft daemon you can, by clicking a button to request a developer key that gives you full access to the machine and its BIOS. Then you can run whatever you like.

      If your machine has been reported stolen, though, the developer key won't be issued. So, it's a sensible tradeoff between restricting people from experimenting on their machine (which they should be able to) and stopping laptop theft from being such a worry.

    2. Re:OLPC becoming Big Brother? by sumdumass · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Not really, This is at the request of the people who will be buying it and distributing it to the people. It won't even be enabled if your one of the people who buy it outright or live in a country without te requirment.

      And I personaly don't see anything wrong for someone who is buying the device to expect it to be used in a certain way when it is given to the intended recipients. If someone doesn't agree, buy it yourself without the restrictions. It is that simple. And the choice is there.

  18. Thieves steal low value stuff by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    OK, I teach in a public school. My computers often are shut down for 21 days or more ... like over vacations. And with intermittent internet connectivity is often down for two months. That's here in a California public school!

    And school thieves steal things with zero street value, including keyboards, cables, and AC power cords. Heck, someone stole three VGA monitors over winter break, saving us $30 in dump fees.

  19. This isn't news... by SocialWorm · · Score: 5, Informative

    Several people, myself included, specifically pointed this out during the last story on OLPC's BitFrost system..

    And can we please remember that it's One Laptop Per Child, and not One Laptop Per Slashdot-reading Guerilla Geek? Any abuse regarding deactivation of the laptops is more likely to be carried out by confiscation of the laptop by school personal.

    Also, the feature can be disabled with a Developer Key from OLPC:

    1018 The anti-theft system cannot be bypassed as long as P_SF_CORE is enabled (and
    1019 disabling it requires a developer key). This, in effect, means that a child is
    1020 free to do any modification to her machine's userspace (by disabling P_SF_RUN
    1021 without a developer key), but cannot change the running kernel without
    1022 requesting the key. The key-issuing process incorporates a 14-day delay to
    1023 allow for a slow theft report to percolate up through the system, and is only
    1024 issued if the machine is not reported stolen at the end of that period of time.
    - http://dev.laptop.org/git.do?p=security;a=blob;hb= HEAD;f=bitfrost.txt
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  20. The more complicated this thing gets ... by DirkK · · Score: 2, Insightful

    ... the more likely it gets to fail.

  21. RTF Spec by fang2415 · · Score: 4, Informative

    When this (old) news first came out, I posted this gloom and doom comment, but after reading the spec, I realized that the picture was more complicated than my comment, or the summary above, indicates.

    FTF Spec:

    The anti-theft system cannot be bypassed as long as P_SF_CORE is enabled (and disabling it requires a developer key). This, in effect, means that a child is free to do any modification to her machine's userspace (by disabling P_SF_RUN without a developer key), but cannot change the running kernel without requesting the key. The key-issuing process incorporates a 14-day delay to allow for a slow theft report to percolate up through the system, and is only issued if the machine is not reported stolen at the end of that period of time.

    My earlier concerns were that this funcitonality was the same type of call-home spying and TPM kill-switch control that MSFT in its most evil moments would love to have over all of its users and that OLPC had totally screwed the pooch.

    The spec makes it seem a bit more like a maximally secure default setting, whose override is difficult but still accessible. They are simply storing the lock (the laptop) and the key (the developer key) in different places. The keys won't be given out if the lock has been reported stolen, but if not, they are available to the machine's owner.

    Something about this still worries me, though. The developer key makes this system radically different from something like the WGA's phone-home spyware "feature" in that it can be disabled by the machine's owner, but given that the default setting is so hard to override, is the effect really all that different? Is this going to screw over less techical users who make a mistake and somehow manage not to "renew their lease" frequently enough? Worst of all, if something goes wrong with the centrally-managed key distribution system, millions of kids will be left with fully locked down, unhackable, TPM machines that will brick in an instant if they wait too long to phone home to the server of a government that may be more interested in censoring them than empowering them.

    I'd be curious to hear what Stallman has to say about this project, especially this aspect of the security system. I think everything else about this project would suit even his lofty standards to a tee, but I think OLPC is walking a fine line with this anti-theft system.

  22. You overestimate the intelligence of thieves ... by AHumbleOpinion · · Score: 2, Informative

    In most cases the value to the thief is not in the object itself but in its resale value. If they know that the laptops will be bricked before they can shift them, it might deter some people from swiping them.

    It will deter few. I recall looking at computer equipment in a pawn shop. I was excited as I saw some IBM Model M keyboards. Upon inspection I found that the keyboards had not been unplugged, the cables had been cut. I expect many thieves will have difficulty telling OLPC systems from normal systems at the time of the robbery. I also expect that highly organized thieves will not shy away from stealing a large shipment of these laptops, and stripping the RAM and HD for salvage.

    Also, "resale value" may be misleading. It is rarely sale to an end user, rather a middleman, as in pawned, laundered, fenced, etc.

  23. Or a social engineer by Razed+By+TV · · Score: 2, Interesting

    "Hi, my name is Valerie Victim. Somebody stole my laptop. It's serial number is 123-456-789. Can you disable it?"
    "Certainly."
    "Thanks!"
    Monique Malicious chuckles, then walks away, her handiwork complete, her rival's laptop disabled.

    I certainly hope they've prepared to prevent such scenarios. Granted, you need to know the serial number, but if it's printed on the back of the thing...

  24. Slave to the mothership by Animats · · Score: 2, Insightful

    What"s with this "slave the user's machine to the mothership" mentality? "The system allows countries to optionally establish a "license" period for the laptops, such as 21 days. Laptops which are not renewed within the timeframe will lock." Get too far from the local wireless node and your machine dies? And they want to deploy this in third world countries?

    That makes life easier for terrorists. The Taliban, which is coming back in Afghanistan, is going to exploit this. Destroy the local school (standard Taliban operating procedure) and its wireless node, and all the kids' computers die. Today at least the parents and kids can hide some books. With OLPC, it's easier for Islamic fundamentalists to destroy knowledge.

  25. Re:You overestimate the intelligence of thieves .. by ZachPruckowski · · Score: 2, Informative

    There is no HDD. There's like 128 MB of RAM, and 512 MB of Flash (expandable). You couldn't sell a 128 MB stick of RAM for any sort of large profit (most retail sticks start at 256 MB or 512 MB), and a removing the flash and consolidating it into something useable to any other product would exceed the costs of bulk flash in the first place. The displays probably need a custom driver. The only thing really useful is the battery, and even that's low-end.

    The fact remains that when you take into account the costs of stripping the OLPCs for parts and selling the parts on the black market, you quickly exceed the possible resale value of the parts.

  26. Re:You overestimate the intelligence of thieves .. by ZachPruckowski · · Score: 2, Informative

    Assuming the connectors and the voltages and stuff match up (which I doubt), the handcrank doesn't produce a lot of power. Sure, it's a decent amount in relation to the ultra-low-power OLPC, but it's not gonna do much compared to a Merom or Turion with 1-2 GB of RAM and a HDD with a full color display. I mean, I bet the crank-time-to-powered-time ratio would be essentially reversed at best (you'd spend twice the time cranking that you'd get in battery time).

  27. Re:You overestimate the intelligence of thieves .. by that+this+is+not+und · · Score: 2, Funny

    I dunno. Is it printed somewhere in my Texas Instruments TTL Data Book? (hardbound, orange cover)

    Or am I not a 'geek' for not knowing key pop culture references?

    How many rhymes do you know that aid in remembering the resistor color code?