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Recording Your Entire Life

Scientific American has an article on Gordon Bell's 9-year-long experiment of recording great swaths of his life on digital media. The idea harks back to an article by Vannevar Bush in the 1940s, which arguably presaged hypertext and the Web as well. Bell, the father of the VAX computer and now with Microsoft Research, first published a paper on his experiment in CACM in 2001. The goal is to record "all of Bell's communications with other people and machines, as well as the images he sees, the sounds he hears and the Web sites he visits." Storage requirements are estimated at a modest 18 GB a year, 1.1 TB over a 60-year span. Not a lot if the article's projection comes to pass — that we will all be walking around with 1 TB of storage in our portable devices by 2015. The article is co-authored by Jim Gemmell, who wrote the software for the MyLifeBits project.

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  1. robin williams movie anyone by Loconut1389 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    "The Final Cut" I think it was called?

    1. Re:robin williams movie anyone by dougrun · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Yes, the Final Cut with Williams and Mira Sorvino. Lions Gate Films. Not so science "fiction" now eh?

    2. Re:robin williams movie anyone by Chiaro+Meratilo · · Score: 2, Insightful

      One thing I never got from that movie was the whole "editors" concept. I mean, these recordings are 60 years long, so wouldn't it take 60 years--at the least-- to edit one person's life for their tombstone? Not to mention that nobody's said whether or not they want to watch memories of some guy.

  2. go directly to jail... by poptones · · Score: 4, Insightful

    the first time he "sees" a 14 year old dancing provocatively at a street fair or public park, or changes his kid's diapers, or goes to a bachelor party without getting signed 2257 documents from the stripper...

    1. Re:go directly to jail... by I7D · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Today on the train ride home i'll finih 'The light of Other days', a book by Arthur C. Clarke and Stephen Baxter. The book is about life with wormholes, where everybody can see anything they wish at any time. Its very interesting, a good read. Somebody else on slashdot recommended it and I bought it for a penny on amazon. If you do happen to pick it up, let me know what you think.

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  3. Re:Note to self: by HTH+NE1 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Turn recording device off BEFORE committing crimes!

    Such as entering a movie theater?

    Record your life, so long as your life doesn't contain any copyrighted works.

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    Oh, say does that Star-Spangled Banner entwine / The myrtle of Venus with Bacchus's vine?
  4. Instant messenger chat logs by necro2607 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I used to make sure all my IM software logged all my chats by default - I saw it as a form of "recording my life" (I used to chat online a LOT). Especially in the event that something happened to me (some kind of fatal accident etc.) there would be some history or leftover "data" for family/friends to keep, I guess. Honestly if people had read the chats they would think so differently of me considering the things I discussed, but regardless I felt like I would want people to know either way. I imagine other people do this as well, although maybe not neccesarily with the same reasons in mind (no, I'm not hinting at anything).

    1. Re:Instant messenger chat logs by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      Honestly if people had read the chats they would think so differently of me considering the things I discussed,

      Man I didn't know necro2607 was that into his wizard robe and hat.

  5. only 18 GB ? by L.+VeGas · · Score: 3, Funny

    Either he's asleep 23 hours a day or he spends every waking moment staring into space.

    1. Re:only 18 GB ? by atamido · · Score: 2, Informative

      or he spends every waking moment staring into space.

      If he was looking up into space, he'd be getting a heck of a lot more than 18GB. The human eye gets the equivalent of around 600 million pixels.

      The telescope will use a digital camera with 3 billion pixels to image the entire sky across three nights, producing an expected 30 terabytes of data per night.
  6. Re:Note to self: by inviolet · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Note to self: Turn recording device off BEFORE committing crimes!

    Laugh while you can. Before long, turning off your Life Recorder will be considered a presumption of guilt.

    The use of Life Recorders is only dangerous insofar as our society's ideology is broken. Whereas right now, there are so many loopholes, we can afford to believe stupid things ("it shall be illegal for an adult male to have penetrative sex with another adult male...") because there is so much room to hide from the law. Indeed, the deepest benefit of privacy is that it shields the lives of individuals from the ideologies of their neighbors.

    By way of illustration, we all share (i.e. de-privatize) ourselves with people to the extent that they share our own ideology.

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  7. He was featured in FastCompany ... by everphilski · · Score: 3, Informative

    He was the feature in Fast Company a few issues ago. It was a really good read.

    here it is although there are a lot of pictures and sidebars that are missing from the original print article.

  8. Re:You think they missed the mark? by kabocox · · Score: 2, Insightful

    You don't suspect that in a few years we won't have terabyte storage on our personal devices, do you? That would be really short sighted. If we're still here in 7 or 8 years, 1TB will probably be pretty ho-hum.

    We have TB of HD space for what $700-$800? It's not quite there, yet. I get excited every time I look up the current prices/storage sizes of those USB thumb drives. When we can pick up 1TB of thumb drive space for $20-$40; this'll start happening far more than anyone previously thought.

    I could see folks using cell phones to silently record everything. We'd need some high speed automated way for a program to search an audio stream for selected text, or for all the audio to be converted to text with it noted, which different speakers are talking. We'd need the same to apply to video as well, but I think that'd be harder. I could see people streaming their life to video.google.com or some other site. It's only a matter of time.

  9. 18GB/year by brainspank · · Score: 3, Funny

    pfft. I think I could top that on a weekend. Or maybe he just uses URLs.

    - 2007.02.16:20.31.19.GMT
    movie://holy-grail-dircut/chapters/3
    food://cheetos
    observe://fingers/wrongcolor/orange
    use://pants/wipe.cgi

    or maybe he just sits in a dark room. a stream of 0's would compress pretty well.

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    It's only a model.
  10. Letting all your crimes be known? Would you? by TibbonZero · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I'm wondering how much a person would change their lifestyle, the things they do, watch, see, etc... if they were under this situation. Surely the person would have an understanding that the government could have a court order to seize all of this information and prosecute a person for everything they had ever done. Would they act the same under such circumstances?

    A record like this almost needs to fall under the 5th amendment of non-self incrimination for a person to actually attempt this (which it does not of course).

    It seems that it would either lead to a state of paranoia, or a person changing too much about their lives for it to be an accurate record of them.

    I'd imagine that many people would change the people they associate with (who they wouldn't want to incriminate accidentally), the drugs they tried or saw, the women they talked to, the affairs they had, how they spent their money (and did their taxes!), the website they viewed, the books they read, the people they chatted with online or the porn they watched. Otherwise, they'd be nuts.

    They would likely be arrested, dumped by their signifcant others, fired from their jobs, ridiculed by friends and family, etc..

    I think the truth of it is that people (of all religions) need to realize that no one lives without fault/sin/whatever they call it, and be ready for the real brutal truth of all a person's dirty secrets.

    I'm a musician/creative type and I know that I wouldn't want a hard record of everything that goes on around me. I'm sure that everyone else has seen/done things they wouldn't want expressed eventually to the entire world.

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    1. Re:Letting all your crimes be known? Would you? by syousef · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I'm wondering how much a person would change their lifestyle, the things they do, watch, see, etc... if they were under this situation. Surely the person would have an understanding that the government could have a court order to seize all of this information and prosecute a person for everything they had ever done. Would they act the same under such circumstances?

      Just look at reality TV. A pretence of proprietary is there initially, then most of the retards they put on these shows either forget the cameras are there or choose to ignore them so long as they don't immediately feel the consequences of their actions. Then they come out and realise the came across as racists or manipulators or sluts or victims and realise hey there is a consequence to constantly being filmed. I suspect even non-cretins would fall victim to the same phenomenon.

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  11. immortality by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    Immortality in 3 easy steps (patent pending):
    1. Record all sensory information available to your brain from conception.
    2. Grow a genetically identical clone of yourself.
    3. Boot your clone from disk. If anything goes wonky, revert to a clean install.

    Use appropriate DRM to prevent unlicensed copying.

  12. zzz... by openaddy · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Most people's lives just aren't that interesting. If someone wants to do this for their own amusement, like keeping a diary, that's cool. But I really have neither the time nor the inclination to read the blogs of people I personally know -- I usually make passing glances out of politeness -- never mind great swaths of their lives in digital form.

  13. Technological Children Much? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Consciousness is directly related to how much you participate in your life, and how much you perceive you are able to participate in your life. Memory is a direct result of that. I can remember years of my life where I was given no choice, and I would run around aimlessly like a robot doing tasks a retarded monkey could figure out, day after day. Then too much automation took root and I completely fell apart. I can remember crying because I noticed the grain in a wooden surface for the first time in ages.

    Memory depends on your perception then and now more than anything. The reason some are going headfirst into this kind of research is because the kids with technology spend all their time in meaningless environments doing meaningless things, they grew up that way. Games are meaningless, TV is meaningless, this text; it's pretty much meaningless, as is the news and slashdot. They're all virtual things with no value to us. They feel as though their life is meaningless because they do meaningless things all god damn day long, and at the end of the day, when they go home, and try to get meaning out of their lives, they find themselves unable to feel like they have meaning. Living a meaningless life leads to a meaningless past. Hence, the reason they want to record it.

    What isn't meaningless? Hugs and kisses from beautiful women. Cranking up an engine you spent 4 weeks rebuilding and taking a drive down to a pizza place 100 miles away to celebrate. Waking up in the morning after damn dear dieing the last day and taking your first breath. Sitting infront of the computer and grabbing a flab of skin and noticing you've lost a lot of weight.

    Those things have meaning, and some people may want to record them or take a piece with them to prove they were here and they did this. Some of us have meaningfull lives that go places, and for us, there's no point to record it all; we've already got what we want right here, right now and the memories can be relegated to stories you tell buddies in bars at 2 am. For the rest of us, memories of the deceased are enough to get us through the day.

    It's a technology for a sick culture.

    1. Re:Technological Children Much? by sorabji · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I have always wondered how anyone remembers what to remember. What subconscious sets of anxieties and biases determine what stories we tell about ourselves years later?

      I'm reminded of a story in the New York Times magazine several years ago, recounting some of the content from a release of KGB surveillance records. Every moment of Soviet suspect citizen's lives were documented, with one passage recounting how a particular citizen approached a hot dog stand, asked for a hot dog, waited as the hot dog was prepared, paid for the hot dog, placed mustard on the hot dog, asked for relish, said thank you, walked away from the hot dog stand... I would think it mildly interesting to learn that my life had been documented in such a way.

      I used to have webcams all over my place. Three of them at home, two at the office, taking photos every 5 or 10 seconds. I did it for years, and forgot about it until I found 50,000+ webcam pictures of me; photos of me sitting here, or sitting there, walking around. It seemed depressing at first, endless pictures of me gaping into a computer monitor and talking on the phone. Wasting this life is the impression I got when my own memories of that time have faded and only raw visual information about my activities was available. It's amazing how little that visual and other documentary information convey about the mental and psychological experience of a memory.

      I can't say that my impression of discovering those thousands of pictures has changed, either. Life looks pretty damn boring when all quotidian endeavors are documented like precious information, but under certain influences I find it inspiring, too. It's the stuff of comedy, after all.

      I think this sort of thing will never be mainstream, but I think it could become more common. I would liked to have a video camera in my eyes, sending video out to a web server somewhere, when I got mugged last year or when I witnessed a hit-and-run accident a few months ago. Anxiety and other circumstances effectively prevent me from clearly remembering what happened.

      Then again, I think most memories should fade.

  14. Thoughts by drinkypoo · · Score: 2, Insightful

    This will be highly inadvisable until such time as we are all forced to have them. At which point it will be illegal for your lawyer to advise you not to have one.

    At the point at which they become ubiquitous, you will either have a mass boycott of copyright (because people will not be permitted to record that part of their life) or a mass revolt against it causing it to be stricken down because people want to be able to record everything they see.

    I think that is only reasonable of course; why should only those with eidetic recall be permitted to remember every detail of a movie?

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    "You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
  15. Re:Note to self: by jamie · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Presumably you would encrypt your observations before storing them. Then it's just a matter of whether and under what circumstances the government can force you to reveal your passphrase.

    My guess is that, faced with this novel situation, a judge might rule that if the police have probable cause to believe you were involved in a crime at a particular time, the court can demand your observations for that time period be decrypted, but aren't entitled to view your entire life. Failure to comply might keep you in jail for contempt of court.

    A very strong argument could be made, though, that the 5th Amendment entitles us to refuse to disclose our passphrases. I confess I don't know the state of case law on this.

  16. Those around him... by Valdrax · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I wonder how those around him have been forced to change their lives based on the fact that they're being so thoroughly documented.

    Personally, the idea of this creeps me out. I mean, if you want to completely destroy your own privacy, I guess that's okay, but if you want to damage the my privacy by recording everything I do in your presence, then that's different.

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    1. Re:Those around him... by John.P.Jones · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I'd say that once the last person who knew anyone in the life recording is dead the personal connection is gone and the recording can be viewed entirely as a historical matter. Practically speaking, that would be two lifetimes after the death of the person being recorded, roughly 225 years (maybe more in the future). Frankly at that point, any right to privacy anyone in the recording has is expired because anyone who may have known them is dead. Privacy doesn't last forever, eventually historical importance (if any) takes precedence. I don't wory about anyone living 300 years from now seeing my life, neither should you. Fortunately all copyrights in the material will have expired prior to that as well.

  17. Re:Note to self: by Erris · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Turn recording device off BEFORE committing crimes!

    or anything that might be embarrassing out of context
    or anything that might clash with the feds current policy
    or visiting the doctor
    or talking to someone who might say something "inappropriate"
    or looking at the wrong web page
    or writing "I hate big brother" in your paper diary.

    Or you could just use free software and encourage others to do the same before big brother can outlaw it along with the rest of your freedoms. Who on Earth is going to trust M$ with a life recorder?

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    DMCA, Hollings, Palladium. What might have sounded like paranoia is now common sense.
  18. kinda repetitive by garlicbready · · Score: 2, Funny

    i think the real question is who's going to bother watching it?
    perhaps in the future you could record your entire life, watiching someone else's life, who's been watching someone else's life on a mac

    hmmm
    I wonder how many Gb would be taken up just taking a piss
    and how well it would compress with x264 over a period of several years

  19. Re:Note to self: by vrmlguy · · Score: 3, Interesting

    John Varley's "Steel Beach" looked at this from the other side. Soon, your household computer will be a reliable witness to every act of abuse committed against a spouse or child within your home. As a result, in the book both the law and their programming forbade computers from giving evidence against their owners. You can probably guess the eventual result.

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  20. Yes, but... by BTWR · · Score: 2, Insightful
    As has been asked several times before on Slashdot...

    How will he safety store these terrabytes?

  21. The making of... by dimeglio · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Sounds like a case when the making of will be more interesting than the actual movie.

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  22. An opposite of the 'leave no trace' philosophy by postbigbang · · Score: 2, Insightful

    What hubris. What self-aggrandizement! What a collosal waste of good disk space! What ego!

    Wait, buy me some Seagate stock!

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  23. Cool! Will I be able... by Mr.Scamp · · Score: 2, Funny

    Will I be able to use google on the collected data to find my car keys in the morning? If so, sign me up now.

  24. "Crimes" by TibbonZero · · Score: 2, Insightful

    You're right. I didn't mean to implicate that everyone is actually a bad person/criminal, and your example is perfectly right of how the system might abuse someone who documented too much.

    I'd hate to be arrested after being on stage (recording everything I saw) and some 17 year old girl flashed her tits at the stage. Opps, then i'd be slammed for recording child porn. And you're right. Walk down the street at Mardi Gras and opps... tits again. Maybe underage? No 2257 documentation? Slammer.

    God forbid I saw or smoked some weed, or left a beer bottle sitting somewhere backstage that someone that was 20 got ahold of.

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  25. nice project for a person, worthless to the masses by krotkruton · · Score: 3, Insightful

    To me, this project is pretty interesting, let alone impressive that the guy manages to stay committed to working at it for 9 years.

    But this idea that everyone will be doing this seems pretty stupid to me. If we recorded everything we did, without revolutionary advancements in search or data mining technology (which the article recognizes), that information would be worthless for most cases with the exception of things for which you know an exact date or time. So you want to know what you did Jan 4, 2003, no problem. Want to know the last time you saw a kid flying a kite in the park? Problem, unless you want to search the video of each time you were in the park. Want to remember that song that you liked that was playing when you were driving with your brother in the car, but can't remember when it happened? Problem unless you want to replay all the audio of you two in the car. The article discusses using metadata to "tag" events, but this is cumbersome with currect technology (as the article also recognizes). Most "tags" would need to be manually added, which would still be a problem even if voice recognition software made it easier to add the tags. We could solve the problem of remembering parts of conversations if voice recognition software converted all speech into a searchable form, but we aren't quite at that level yet.

    FTA: An ordinary notebook PC can run a database that is more powerful and almost 100 times as large as that of a major bank of the 1980s. An inexpensive cell phone can surf the Web, play videos and even understand some speech.

    Yeah, and a decade before that in 1976, the CRAY-1 was impressive. Sorry if beating an 80s computer doesn't allay my feelings that our computers can't handle the massive amount of data that the article discusses.

    The article talks about logging health information that would allow the doctor to see early warning signs of things like heart attacks. I'm not going to preted to know all of the warning signs for heart attacks, but it seems to me that many of them are only valid when certain other factors are present as well. For example, if your heart rate is high, its probably not a warning sign if you are also running a marathon. FTA: "Sensors can also log the three billion or so heartbeats in a person's lifetime, along with other physiological indicators". Yeah, have fun running the queries to search through the roughly 40 million heartbeats you have each year while comparing that to the other important factors that determine heart attacks, and then do it again for other diseases.

    I'm sure there are a ton of great uses for this technology. I just don't think that we are anywhere near diong all of the things the article wants, and even if we were, it would end up making more work for people. With that said, consider how this might affect our brains. When I was young, I had my closest friends' phone numbers memorized, along as a few of their addresses. Once I got a cell phone, I slowly forgot every number I knew. Up until a year a year ago, my mom, who just got a cell phone 3 years ago, could remember the number of the first house she lived in. As we develop technology that remembers things for us, what happens to our ability to remember?

  26. Everything has meaning by spun · · Score: 4, Interesting

    In fact, everything has only and exactly the meaning you give it, and for you, no other meaning is possible. You chose to give certain situations in your life meaning, and you chose to say that others had no meaning. That was your choice. But it is not entirely up to you, your choices are never made as freely as you think. As a child you had little choice but to accept the meaning-templates that society provided you. You can choose to move on and redefine your templates, but that is a hard thing, and most never do it.

    I'm glad you've found more meaning in your life, though. That is always a good thing. Just don't shut out those "meaningless" parts, they may have more meaning than you thought at the time.

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    - None can love freedom heartily, but good men; the rest love not freedom, but license. -- John Milton
  27. Robert Shields by solevita · · Score: 2, Informative
    This sounds almost as detailed as Robert Shields' diary, except he did all his work on a typewriter!

    Over the past 20 years, he has typed between three and six-thousand words each day, keeping a record of everything that happens to him.
  28. SenseCam info by autophile · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Here is where you can get more geeky information about the SenseCam that Bell uses. It senses body heat and changes in light level to take pictures which are considered "interesting".

    --Rob

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    Towards the Singularity.
  29. Re:Only 18Gb... by slackmaster2000 · · Score: 2, Funny

    Just upgraded to MS Office 2007 eh?

  30. subpoenas by drDugan · · Score: 4, Interesting

    When I showed up in Washington for my job, I had lunch with the big boss, who was the former chief of staff to the US VP. Big big cheese in DC. The #2 to the #2. I still had on the west-coast, happy-go-friendly naiveté slathered thick.

    It was the first week, and the first time the big boss took some interest in me. Lunch was expensive - he paid.

    We chatted, dug in. He said a connection I needed to remember and follow up with.

    I pulled out 'my book', the latest leather bound notebook I had kept religiously throughout my graduate life and after. It was just the latest book, like the 4 others before it that I had filled and put on the shelf. At any meeting - the date at the top, notes in delicate print, people, emails, good points - all the things I needed to recall later. Two years later, if I needed the name of that person in the 5th seat from the right from BigCo, Inc., ... yup, in the book.

    The boss's eyes widened, his head tilted -- he said, bluntly: "What's that?"

    "Oh, I keep a book with notes."

    "Oh" he said, pausing, "we don't do that here."

    There was then an even longer, more awkward pause. I scrunched my brow furiously trying not to look too stupid. My eyes darted. "Huh?" I'm thinking, like "What? Write notes in a restaurant?"

    "That is a subpoena waiting to happen", he continued. We then talked at length about how things happen in the real world. That was 4 years ago. I learned a lot from him. I don't keep books any more...

    Since then I've quit a few times, been fired a few times, sued, been through 2 trials, won one, lost one, hired and fired a bunch of people, and now I'm running a startup. Fun times.

    Long story short: IF I ever did record anything, I'd certainly never tell anyone that I had it. There is simply too much risk of it being used against me in the current litigation-crazy world, both from other people and from the state.

    1. Re:subpoenas by oblivionboy · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Although at first I wished I had mod points to mod you up, I realized after that no, his point did have more than just slight relevance. Specifically its about all the issues that can come to haunt us later if what has happened in the past is recorded accurately. It can be used against us by others, and probably in quite unexpected ways.

      What I did take issue with was how the original poster somehow slanted his post in a condescending manner (hey this is slashdot, so why was I surprised :) to make it seem like he learned something from "the real world". Where as what he really learned was just that this "big boss" told him that political people in washington don't take notes because it could be used in a legal way against them down the road. Make of that what you will. I especially don't think that Washington is in any way "the real world". .o.

  31. Re:Note to self: by HeadlessNotAHorseman · · Score: 2, Funny

    God only records with a crummy black and white CCD. It would be useless but for the fact that he has a copy of the same software used in CSI et al to zoom in to infinite levels or see around objects.

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  32. self-centered nerds by oohshiny · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I can't quite figure out why these people think that anybody cares about their lives.

  33. Re:You think they missed the mark? by lindseyp · · Score: 2, Informative
    --You don't suspect that in a few years we won't have terabyte storage on our personal devices, do you? That would be really short sighted. If we're still here in 7 or 8 years, 1TB will probably be pretty ho-hum.

    -We have TB of HD space for what $700-$800? It's not quite there, yet.

    It's not quite 2015 yet, either.

    Back in 2000 a 128MB Trek thumbdrive was $399. $3.12 per megabyte.

    OK hard drives are cheaper. here is a nice historical table of the cost per gigabyte. For reference the number of Mb per $0.01c seems to go up by a factor of around 10 every 5 years. Meaning that 1 TB of storage should be around $70-80 in 5 years time.

    And even then it won't be 2015 yet

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  34. Wait a minute... by K-Man · · Score: 2, Funny

    That's my life, slowed down .975%.

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    ---- "If we have to go on with these damned quantum jumps, then I'm sorry that I ever got involved" - Erwin Schrodinger
  35. Re:Weblogs ... speaking of wives by ancientt · · Score: 2, Interesting

    First, I assume your blog is secure, if it wasn't you should have corrected that by now. Second, a whole lot of you people seem to be missing one of the fundamental benefits! Being able to say "I told you so" and prove it. That would apply to auto insurance, malpractice, shoddy customer service and arguments with your oh so significant other.

    Here is how it should work:
    I wear glasses (used to have contacts) and I can easily imagine a pair of glasses where the spring in them is just a little longer and one side includes a microphone and the other side has a camera. I'm not sure about powering the thing but if you could get it broadcasting wirelessly (yes heavily encrypted) to my cell phone which in turn uploads periodically to my glife (google's next product) then you'd be able to have an audio/visual recording of practically everything I see/say/hear.

    All the video/audio is stored temporarily on my cell where I can also set the cease broadcast, cease recording or cease upload options. It is pretty handy to control it from there, but it also has the "instant replay" option for whatever storage capacity I can afford/prefer worth of time. I imagine that at home I'd put it on cease upload but at work and driving I'd be on broadcast/record/upload constantly. I imagine Progressive or Allstate would offer a "certified driver" program and I would enable the same sort of technology in my car but on a simulcast to trusted third party option for a hefty discount. I'd certainly opt for the "dump last hour of data to police on death" and the "call the frigging ambulance if you crash" options.

    The next thing would be a password to access archives beyond my cell phone replay option. I would memorize 24 hour, 30 day, 90 day, 1 yr and 7 yr passwords which would lock the archive for those periods of times if I used them. You could set your archive with whatever default lock period you like and nobody would be able to tell if you deliberately locked it or not. Some people would doubtless like to record their lives but don't want them pried into until a statute of limitations would apply so you could always plausibly say that you were one of those people (or that you only know the 7 yr lock password if you're a doctor, lawyer etc and then rely on third parties, possibly pairs of other people.) It would be trivial to change the lock/archive periods so that what you do at work is locked for 7 years, driving for 24 and home not at all and not stored at all when you're feeling private.

    Heck, the politician who has the longest period on record of "share with third party ethics auditors" would be a shoo-in for office. Call the other guy a liar and stand on your "Really moral and honest guy" rating if you can get it. If not, then maybe somebody who can will run.... that or a talented hacker.

    I cannot imagine how many arguments I wish I could have solved with the "Wait, lets check out an instant replay" option. I can go a step further and say that it would doubtless have my wife agreeing with me far more often about what was said. She insists on debating what she or I said, and while I'm sure she is occassionally right, I am really good at that sort of thing. On the other hand I imagine that I would almost never argue with her about what she told me previously. The thing is that both of us know that the other person is better at some types of recall, but there is no way to tell how often or how much better quantitively. Even if we knew the likelyhood was that we'd be wrong, we could "check the replay" if we thought this might be the time we were the one who was right.

    I would never need to tell people in the service industry they suck again, if they suck then I can post the entire episode on youtube! Yes, I mean you Sprint, Wafflehouse and York Tire!

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  36. Re:Is that Islam, or is that cartoons? by amRadioHed · · Score: 2, Informative

    I'm familiar with Bugs bunny and that's not what I'm talking about. My source is my Muslim coworker, it came up in conversation just last week. Regardless about two minutes of googling will reveal plenty of verifcation such as here, here, here, here, and here.

    The cartoon depiction of angels on our shoulders did come to my mind when we were discussing it. The popular notion is not the same as in Islam since they are influencing your actions, not recording them. However Islam has been around for a long time, it may well be the source of that cartoon cliche.

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  37. How do you know what's meaningful? by earthbound+kid · · Score: 2, Insightful

    What's your criteria for meaningfulness vs. meaninglessness? It seems like you're suggesting it comes down to a combination of hard work (building a car, losing weight) or "genuinely" good times (hanging out with a woman), but it's not clear on what basis we can say that certain kinds of hard work (the car, the weight) are meaningful and others are not (writing a reply on /., beating a video game). Is it just that you think that anything revolving around using a computer is too "unnatural" or too easy to be meaningful? Or are physical activities inherently more meaningful than other ones?

    Would you say that animals live meaningful lives or meaningless lives? Most of the ancients thought that animals had meaningless lives, since animals can't think, which they held to be the highest activity, but your examples seem to suggest that since you think physical activities like hard work and flirting (step one to reproduction) are meaningful, animals can also lead meaningful lives by living naturally or whatever.

    I'm really curious about your criteria here, since from a scientific/materialistic/evolutionary perspective, humans are just a type of animal, so nothing human can do could ever be "unnatural," just natural in a different way, much as the natural actions of a chimp are different from the natural actions of a bacteria. Thus, I find naturalness as a gauge of meaningfulness to be problematic, since there is no way to tell the natural from the unnatural except to suppose that the human animal shouldn't have changed its environment as it has.