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Sanyo Blamed in Lenovo Battery Recall

ukhackster writes "Those overheating laptop batteries are back. Lenovo is recalling 205,000 'extended' batteries which shipped with its ThinkPad machines, or were bought as replacements. Slashdot readers will doubtless remember the flak which Sony attracted last year, after it was blamed for exploding Dell notebooks and several massive recalls. This time, the batteries were made by Sanyo. Their engineers determined that the failure was repeatable by dropping machines using the batteries from a certain height and at a certain angle. As soon as the repeatable nature of the flaw was determined, a recall was issued."

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  1. Correction by p0tat03 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    As soon as the repeatable nature of the flaw was determined, a recall was issued.

    Correction: As soon as finance and legal determined that the:

    1 - The cost of settling out of court with the projected number of people harmed by this defect.
    2 - Lost business due to bad publicity caused by this defect.

    would exceed the cost of recall, a recall was issued.

    1. Re:Correction by pete-classic · · Score: 3, Funny
      Ah, The Formula:

      Take the number of [units] in the field, (A), and multiply it by the probable rate of failure, (B), then multiply the result by the average out-of-court settlement, (C). A times B times C equals X... If X is less than the cost of a recall, we don't do one.

    2. Re:Correction by sRev · · Score: 5, Funny

      The first rule of batter recall is you don't talk about battery recall.

  2. Not the first Sanyo Battery Recall.... by 8127972 · · Score: 4, Informative

    .... as there have been others:

    http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9C0 DE2DB1731F93BA35751C1A9609C8B63
    http://www.techspot.com/news/23809-sanyo-faces-13m -cellphone-battery-recall.html

    I guess this proves that it's not just Sony that puts the "boom" into laptops.

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    1. Re:Not the first Sanyo Battery Recall.... by jackharrer · · Score: 3, Funny

      Difference is that Sanyo's batteries need to be hit quite hard in a corner to overheat, but Sony's have it as a standard feature.
      Hard to blame Sanyo for users' actions. Like dropping a laptop. ouch!

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  3. Well by madsheep · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Slashdot readers will doubtless remember the flak which Sony attracted last year, after it was blamed for exploding Dell notebooks and several massive recalls. Well first this should be singular not plural for "exploding Dell notebooks". Look at the original article which is linked to and notice how it's singular. Second, are we forgetting about the same issue that was in the Apple laptops? Talk about one-sided.
    1. Re:Well by LiquidCoooled · · Score: 5, Funny

      Your correct.
      Their laptops explode at a totally different frequency.

      Apples' magic smoke is colour coordinated and scented.

      Its actually a rather nice rainbow effect which draws in a crowd of people who all get burnt.

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    2. Re:Well by morgan_greywolf · · Score: 3, Funny

      Mac guy (in sitting position): Hi, I'm a Mac notebook.

      PC dork (in sitting position): And I'm a PC noteb....

      *BOOOOOOOOMM*

      Mac guy: looks like the PC had a Sony battery again!

      New PC dork: Hi, I'm a PC notebook.

      Mac guy: You're not going to blow up like the last on...

      *BOOOOOOMMMM*

      Mac guy: Guess so.

      Mac guy: See? Mac's don't bl....

      ***BBBOOOOM****

      Fade to white:

      Apple Notebooks: Less Explosive.

  4. Recall outcome by fahrbot-bot · · Score: 4, Funny
    ...the failure was repeatable by dropping machines using the batteries from a certain height and at a certain angle...

    A Sanyo spokes-person reports that the recall involves affixing a sticker to the affected batteries as to the proper height and angle from which to drop a laptop to avoid battery failure. All other procedures will void the warranty.

    [Actually, their methodology reminds me of an old Police Squad episode where the detectives were trying to determine how a body fell into the chalk outline by repeatedly shooting volunteers from different angles. In the background was a pile of bodies from previous experiments.]

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  5. Ok, list of companies I can't buy stuff from: by feepness · · Score: 4, Funny

    Lenovo - Bad batteries
    Sony - Rootkits
    Microsoft - FUD / monopolistic designs
    Apple - DRM

    I'm just going to sit here in the dark and enjoy my sense of self-righteousness.

    Mmmmmmm.....

  6. They're actually quite high by EmbeddedJanitor · · Score: 4, Interesting
    I've been in the product development game too long to be suprised by this. I've seen a lot of pretty strange mechanical damage, often to do with batteries.

    Batteries are pretty dense and thus tend to have a lot of inertia relative to the rest of the guts of a device. If you drop an electronic device (or anything for that matter) onto a hard surface, it is in for a good few gs of acceleration. Sure, there are posts and reatining plastic etc, but these tend to be stronger in some angles than others.

    Sometimes certain damage only happens within a certain "shock window". Eg. Drop from 2 ft and nothing breaks, the plastic retains everything; drop from 3ft and the two posts retaining the battery fail allowing the battery to strike the hard disk and get dented; drop from 6 ft and a different buch of posts fail causing the stress to be relieved in a different way and the battery does not strike the hard disk.

    And, actually, lab engineers do routinely test for drop and vibration failure but that is more in the interests of seeing at what point a system fails rather than looking for safety issues a battery explosion.

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  7. My battery was affected... by Mad+Merlin · · Score: 4, Informative

    You give Lenovo your ThinkPad product and serial number, battery serial number, shipping address and they'll ship you a new battery in 4-6 weeks. Go to it if you have a battery of model 92P1131.

    You can use `cat /proc/acpi/battery/BAT0/info | grep model` to find your battery model without removing it.