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Objections Over Antibiotic Approved for Use in Cattle

An anonymous reader writes "The Washington post reports that the FDA is expected to approve the marketing of the new antibiotic called Cefquinome for use in cattle. This is over objections of the American medical association, the FDA advisory board and the World Health Organization. Cefquinome is from a class of highly potent 'last line of defense' antibiotics for several serious human infections. It is feared that large scale use in cattle will allow bacteria to develop a resistance to these drugs. This news follows complaints from the FDA that it is no longer getting the funds needed to do the research required for the desired level of food safety."

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  1. This goes beyond idiocy by dsanfte · · Score: 5, Insightful

    This goes beyond idiocy... This is blatant pandering to the cattle lobby at the expense of our health. Everyone of us who might one day get MRSA, or flesh-eating disease...

    Any increased use of these drugs, especially on bacteria present in the food supply, is asking for disaster. When a federal agency start making bad decisions for corporate lobbyists that will cost real lives, it's time for heads to roll.

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    1. Re:This goes beyond idiocy by miskatonic+alumnus · · Score: 4, Insightful

      But, but, what you propose would interfere with that most holy of holies --- the Free Market. Please, won't someone think of the stockholders? A few million lives is a small price to pay for corporate megabucks and a strong economy. Fnord.

    2. Re:This goes beyond idiocy by Chandon+Seldon · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The free market fails in the face of uncompensated externalities.

      "A few million lives" for "megabucks" won't produce a strong economy anyway. In an economic analysis, you *can* put a price on human lives - but that price is well over the couple hundred bucks each this statement implies at maximum.

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    3. Re:This goes beyond idiocy by Frumious+Wombat · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Or, we could try a free-market approach: We charge ranchers market-rates for grazing lands and water, we stop propping up corn-states with subsidies so that dirt-cheap corn isn't available for feedlot use as clearance prices, and we treat feedlots as the industrial polluters they are, and regulate them accordingly. While we're at it, label beef openly. You should be able to pick up a package of beef, look at the label, and see "feedlot-raised herford routinely injected with the following antibiotics@concentration@interval just in case". Next to it would be, "grass-fed, open-range, dusted for ticks and certified treated only for illness and not within 120 days of slaughter". End result: a whole whack of inefficient cattlemen go under (at least we won't have to list to the whining of rugged individualists who only need continual tax subsidies but no other gub'mint involvement to stay in business), meat prices rise a bit, successful ranchers will go back to open-range grazing like Argentina does, and possibly some of that fertilizer-gulping corn will be plowed under and prarie grass for grazing planted in its place.

      With better animal-husbandry (don't feed a grazing animal expecting a high-fiber diet acidic corn and make it stand in one place all day), you'll get healthier animals, and less need for antibiotics and other promoters to make them grow. And before anyone starts the accusations, I eat meat and look askance at soybean-based alleged food products. These are the same people pushing irradiation of food so that they don't have to slow down slaughterhouses and worry about what bits of cattle-waste end up on or in meat. Sometimes the answer really is, "it's not a machine, and we should not be producing beef as if it was Nikes, so worry about public health first, then about m

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  2. Re:OK Dems, the ball is in your court . . . by bill_mcgonigle · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Now that the Dems are back in the saddle, is it really "Bush's fault"?

    It's cute that you think there's a significant difference between the two parties.

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  3. "guidance document" by Wolfier · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Disgusting. They should understand very well that human health is #1, and animal drugs is #10, period.

    Any "guidance" serves nothing but to make up excuses that tries to justify animal drugs over human health, for pure "economic" reasons (i.e. greed).

  4. Re:Just don't eat meat by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    You're missing the point.

    It's not a fear that this antibiotic will have a negative effect on humans. The problem is that, by overusing this drug, it will lose its potency. Many antibiotics have already been rendered useless thanks to careless overuse, and this one has been deliberately set aside as a last resort. If cattle farmers are allowed to use this drug it will no longer be useful for treating human infections.

    The FDA is in every single way destroying a cure for life-threatening diseases in order to fellate a bunch of worthless scum-sucking factory farmers. You should be outraged, not just avoiding meat.

  5. Re:Just don't eat meat by ucblockhead · · Score: 4, Insightful
    Nope. Problem not solved. Vegetarians will also suffer if and when diseases become resistant to these antibiotics because of overuse in the cattle industry.


    Antibiotics should be banned for agricultural uses. It's putting all of us at risk so that a few can make a bigger profit.

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  6. The Big One by DogDude · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The Big Thing that's gonna take humans down a notch won't be nuclear attack. It won't be global warming. It'll be a simple bacteria, maybe a version of something common like strep or staph that doctors just can't kill because of simple resistance. I can't wait.

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  7. Re:Micotil by nuzak · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Maby instead of looking for better antibiotics for the cattle we should be looking at why there are getting sick to begin with, because virtually all cattle that go through the Industrial livestock system get sick.

    Density. When you cram that many of the same species into one space, you have rather less of a herd and more of a bacterial growth medium, not unlike a petri dish. Suppressing natural immune responses through minimal culling and artificial antibiotics exacerbates the problem. And once you have really virulent infections going around, they contaminate the environment, so any livestock that merely pass through will pick it up. They can't even decontaminate hospitals completely -- you think a feedlot gets disinfected as much?

    Not to be rude, but how on earth can a rancher not know this sort of thing?

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  8. Avoiding the word "Evolution" again by DrJay · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It's ironic that in light of the recent analysis of the use of the term "evolution" covered here on slashdot that the summary would suggest that the bacteria will "develop a resistance to these drugs." Resistance to the drugs will will evolve, if we're to use the proper term for the process.

    As the original article in that earlier discussion noted, if we'd use the appropriate term when discussing these issues, it's more likely that people will realize that understanding evolution is essential to understand this and a variety of other public health issues, such as emerging diseases, cancer, etc. And maybe, just maybe, science classes would be a touch more likely to teach science without winding up in the court system.

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  9. "Industrial" by Svartalf · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Anywhere I see "industrial" I see unsustainable practices for maximal profits being done.

    Doesn't matter WHERE I see it. It just is.

    Pack a bunch of dumb animals into a tight space, something that isn't natural- you're going to get problems.
    The industry's answer, drug them animals up to offset the problem. Which isn't really an answer.

    As the Poultry industry seems to be figuring out- raising chickens and harvesting eggs more akin to the way
    one would do in the old days on a farm is actually better than the other way, costs only a little more to
    do, and produces much more desirable results (The eggs are more nutritious, as is the chicken meat- and they
    taste oh, so much better...) for only slightly more retail cost. The same goes for bread, etc. We've improved
    our ways of doing things such that doing things sustainably is more valuable than doing them for the lowest
    costs- and for each and every "cost saving" thing, we damage our health, etc.

    High Fructose Corn Syrup - while it's cheaper than cane sugar and other sweeteners, HFCS makes type II diabetics
    out of people. And we've adulterated the food supply with the damn stuff.

    Nutrasweet - I won't even begin to start on THAT stuff.

    Antibiotics given to animals indescriminately - antibiotic resistant bacteria that cause problems worse than the
    the expense of food would be if you'd back off a little on production.

    When will the food industry wise up? When will someone cashier the FDA as it currently is because
    it doesn't do ANYTHING of what it's supposed to do. It doesn't allow good drugs to be. It doesn't
    allow good food to happen. It doesn't prevent bad drugs from getting on the market. It doesn't
    prevent bad food production practices and additives from getting on the market. But it is the final
    arbiter on things for this country.

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  10. Re:OK Dems, the ball is in your court . . . by The+Good+Reverend · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It's cute that you think there's a significant difference between the two parties.

    It's cuter that people get modded up for repeating this nonsense whenever there's a political discussion. The differences aren't as remarkable as larger party differences in other countries, but to say there's no "significant difference" is absurd, unless you don't consider things such as rights to abortion, rights to marry who you want and freedom from religion important.

    (Yes, I realize there are democrats against the above things. But the party's platforms spell out clear differences).

  11. This is criminal... by dtjohnson · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Every gram of antibiotics administered is one more gram released into the environment where it will create resistant microbes. The microbes do not care if the antibiotic was administered in tiny doses to a 2-year-old with an ear infection or in massive doses to a 600 pound cow as a feed supplement to make it grow faster and bigger. EVERY antibiotic given to cattle in massive doses has quickly lost its effectiveness in the human population to the point that resistant microbes are now very common. The cow excretes most of the antibiotics into the environment where they create new resistant microbe populations that then migrate worldwide. The public health people hector doctors to avoid giving antibiotic prescriptions unless absolutely necessary and then the FDA does something like this. This is criminally negligent and irresponsible and some people at the FDA need to be brought to trial and thrown into prison.

  12. 30% becomes far more by r00t · · Score: 4, Insightful

    With 30% dead, lots of regular jobs are going undone, and regular things aren't being bought.

    The music store only has employees for a few days of the week. They have to shut down on the other days. Nobody wants to be out buying music anyway though. The rent doesn't get paid. The store closes. The landlord now has an empty storefront. That hurts business for his other tenents. Also, he still has to pay his taxes. The Burger King can't staff their place. Do they just close up shop?

    Businesses find themselves needing to shrink and consolidate, fast. That is majorly disruptive. Facilities must be closed. Employees may need to move; some will refuse.

    Everything becomes inefficient as businesses collapse. Shortages come and go, interspersed with surplusses that get wasted.

    Whole towns need to be abandoned. When a small place loses the only food store, the people have to move elsewhere.

    The police are in disarray, just like every other organization. The now-idle masses are starving, bored, irrational, and willing to take great risks because death appears likely anyway. The New Orleans looting was nothing, really. Imagine something like that accross the whole world. There will be no help coming from outside.

    Eventually, the farms aren't tended. The cattle aren't fed. Transportation is unreliable. Fuel may be mostly unavailable. Real food shortages set in.

    Way more than 30% die. Maybe 99% or more. Very few of us have a backyard garden that can completely feed the family.

    People fall back on idiotic superstitions, as they have done since the very first humans.

    Welcome to the Dark Ages II. (this time, Protestant and Islamic)