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NASA Fires Astronaut

davidwr writes "In an unprecedented move for an unprecedented situation, NASA has fired now-former astronaut Lisa Nowack. She is facing charges of attempted kidnapping related to an incident earlier this year. Ms. Nowack is a Navy officer and remains so."

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  1. Has anyone tried by Normal+Dan · · Score: 4, Funny

    listening to her side of the story?

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    1. Re:Has anyone tried by Brett+Buck · · Score: 5, Funny

      Yes, I agree. I would certainly like to know the perfectly rational reason for driving 900 miles in diapers, and then tracking down and pepper-spraying someone you have never met, in an airport parking lot.

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    2. Re:Has anyone tried by susano_otter · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I'm sure many people have... including the mental health professionals responsible for certifying that the astronauts are maintaining the presence of mind and emotional stability necessary to perform what is a very demanding, stressful, and risky job.

      I'd imagine that it takes very little in the way of strange behavior to disqualify a person for astronaut duty, regardless of what their explanation is. Even if her behavior was totally justified and not in any way her fault, the fact that she ended up behaving this way probably means she's not good astronaut material anymore. Astronauts should generally not respond to environmental or emotional stress by flipping out and committing crimes.

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    3. Re:Has anyone tried by sehlat · · Score: 5, Funny

      Minimum sanity standards for officers? Good Lord, man, why not minimum sanity standards for the Commander in Chief?

      Oh, wait...

    4. Re:Has anyone tried by ozmanjusri · · Score: 5, Funny
      Otherwise, we end up with two classes of humans: can't control emotions but excusable; can't control emotions but inexcusable

      Well Duh!.

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    5. Re:Has anyone tried by mclearn · · Score: 5, Informative

      Hell, most female paragliders wear diapers when performing long cross-country flights especially in competitive or hostile environments when landing for bathroom breaks is not an option. Most guys tend to perform "high altitude irrigation" -- it's easier to perform when you can angle the flow.

  2. nah by User+956 · · Score: 4, Funny

    In an unprecedented move for an unprecedented situation, NASA has fired now-former astronaut Lisa Nowack.

    It's not completely unprecedented. They fired the Challenger crew. I guess they just couldn't keep it together.

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  3. Diapers saving time? by lothar97 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    One question about this whole thing that has bothered me is that she wore diapers to obviate the need for bathroom breaks. She drove 900 miles really fast, which meant she also had to refuel. Assuming great mileage, a large fuel tank, and a speedy car, she had to stop at least twice to gas. I'm not sure how much time would've been saved by stopping off in the loo. I think it tends to show more of how batty she is- which is good for her defense. Has anyone seen how long the trip actually took for her to drive?

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    1. Re:Diapers saving time? by Astral+Jung · · Score: 5, Funny

      Apparently, you've not seen very many gas station restrooms.

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    2. Re:Diapers saving time? by GreyPoopon · · Score: 4, Insightful

      One question about this whole thing that has bothered me is that she wore diapers to obviate the need for bathroom breaks.

      Although we can't be sure, I would guess that it was not to avoid wasting time, and was instead to avoid getting caught on camera. You can fill up your gas tank outside, but most gas stations these days have their WCs on the inside, and most of them have CCTV to take pretty pictures of you. If she was hoping to murder and dispose of her rival, she would absolutely not want any evidence that she had made a cross country trip around the time that the victim disappeared. Of course, most gas stations these days also have cameras watching the license plates of their customers to avoid drive-offs, but I guess she was improving her chances by not going inside.
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    3. Re:Diapers saving time? by iamacat · · Score: 4, Insightful

      How do you think astronauts handle descent in landing capsules, long spacewalks or other situation where one might need to pee? What's bizarre to us, might be routine for people who go on unusual missions.

    4. Re:Diapers saving time? by Marko+DeBeeste · · Score: 5, Funny
      Hadn't heard about the soiled part. My thought is some kind of organic brain problem (stroke, tumor, etc.) She profile's out as too smart and confident a person with a robust history. In terms of cognitive (in this case delusional) issues, the best predictor of what will happen is what has happened.

      Either that or the guy is hung like a coal-mine mule.

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    5. Re:Diapers saving time? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny
      Say what?! I don't take 10 minutes to lay a cable

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  4. Re:Why is this odd? by nofx911 · · Score: 5, Informative

    According to NASA the felony investigation is only a fraction of the problem. She is technically on lone from the Navy - which means that she is only allowed to work in certain roles that the Navy has pre-authorized for her. Since she can not participate in those roles, due to her current legal obligations (shes not allowed outside of Houston), there is nothing that she can do within NASA. Henceforth, NASA has no choice other than releasing her.

  5. NASA's shuttle replacement? by dacut · · Score: 4, Funny

    Oefelein told investigators he and Nowak both served on the bicycling team at NASA... Man, I know NASA is strapped for cash, but bicycles?

  6. Re:tossed out an airlock by susano_otter · · Score: 4, Insightful

    So you're saying that NASA should keep someone totally unqualified for any kind of high-stress, high-risk work on the payroll?

    Besides, it's more like she's a Navy pilot seconded to the National Aeronautics and Space Administration for space research projects. If she's no longer suited to work on such projects, the right thing to do is to take her off those projects and return her to her regular Navy pilot duties--or such of those duties as her parent organization finds her still fit to perform. It's not like NASA tossed her out on the street.

    Also, this is the first time an Astronaut has "snapped" like this. How do you know it's the training program, and not a personality quirk in the candidate? Astronauts are typically chosen from among a pool of people who have already proven their aptitude for high-stress, high-risk work. Most of the candidates eithe wash out or pass through the qualification tests. The ones that pass through almost never snap, but as manning increases, the occasional ringer is bound to slip through. The right thing to do is not to keep the ringer, but to wash them out as soon as you become aware of them.

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  7. Yeah, I've tried, but thats not the question. by deft · · Score: 5, Insightful

    "Has anyone tried listening to her side of the story?"

    has anyone tried to listen to it without laughing... thats the hard part.

    What I love about this story is she gets aaa wig, everything you need to kill and torture someone, drives forever to meet her... and the weird part is diapers that isnt weird for her or her job... like none of that other stuff bothers anyone.

    Clearly, we are desensitized to murder and all that... but adult diapers really gets us.

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    1. Re:Yeah, I've tried, but thats not the question. by Chris+Burke · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Because any human with a heart can at least understand the jealous lover who decides to take out the competition even if we'd never actually do it. That's a story as ancient as mankind, something which outside of the immediacy is completely banal.

      The diapers are what make it weird.

      Of course the rest bothers lots of people, it just doesn't make you stop and go "huh?" like hearing she drove cross country wearing diapers does.

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  8. Re:tossed out an airlock by TubeSteak · · Score: 4, Informative

    Besides, it's more like she's a Navy pilot seconded to the National Aeronautics and Space Administration for space research projects. If she's no longer suited to work on such projects, the right thing to do is to take her off those projects and return her to her regular Navy pilot duties
    FTFA:
    NASA said it requested Nowak's detail be ended "because the agency lacks the administrative means to deal appropriately with the criminal charges pending against Nowak. Because Nowak is a naval officer on assignment to NASA, rather than a NASA civil servant, she is not subject to administrative action by NASA."

    In other words, NASA's only option (other than doing nothing) is to fire her.

    As for the quality of people NASA takes into their program, they're mostly products of the Navy/Army Test Pilot School. Even the engineers (like this crazy robotic arm operator) went to test pilot school.
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  9. Not just any bicycles by patio11 · · Score: 4, Funny

    They're custom-made from Lockheed Martin, spent 8 years in development each at a cost of $650 million, use military-grade titanium frames and have wheels made up of 65,000 tiny sheets of vulcanized rubber which are handmade and then painstakingly knit together to best resist wear-and-tear with the road. They're only used for serious scientific business, like carrying a mouse in the basket to see what the physiological changes are to a mouse riding a bicycle. It was determined that the changes are rather similar to what a mouse experiences in low-gravity: not much, and if you give him cheese he really couldn't care less.

    Plans to retest using a hamster and sunflower seeds were scrapped after the bike was totaled in a training accident. (A NASA bicycle rider on loan from the Air Force attempted to take the bicycle over a 3 inch curb, which should have been within the 5 inch tolerance level of the suspension. Unfortunately, one of NASA's subcontractors designed for 5 cm tolerance level instead, and after the suspension exceeded tolerance it folded like only a $600 million can can.)

    NASA is now submitting a proposal for a better, more expensive bicycle to continue their important scientific mission. $1 billion is slated for testing the suspension under a variety of stressful conditions, and as much as $2.50 is slated for experimental apparati for measuring the responses of the hamster.

  10. Not unrelated at all... by JacksBrokenCode · · Score: 4, Funny

    Should you get fired from your cashiers job just because you got fined for speeding?

    Better question: Would you let somebody with obvious mental instability babysit your $1.3 billion kid?

  11. Pampers, bitches. by LibertineR · · Score: 4, Funny
    The chick was sporting Pampers when NASA officially endorses Depends.

    She had to go. Were it the NBA, they could have just fined her, or sent her to rehab, but.....

  12. Re:Why is this odd? by StikyPad · · Score: 4, Funny

    She is technically on lone from the Navy

    I believe you meant, "one loon from the Navy."

  13. Non-stop? by WidescreenFreak · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Well, that is so you can drive non stop. Duh.

    Please tell us the car that she drove that actually got 900 miles to a tank of gasoline. We want to know about it!

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