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HDMI-Enabled Graphics Cards Debut

TrackinYeti writes "HDMI (High Definition Multimedia Interface), is the first industry supported digital-only interface, that requires a single cable to connect an output source to an HD-ready device, such as a television or monitor and deliver HD video, plus multi-channel digital audio, like Dolby Digital and DTS. Recently, Asus Computer released versions of their GeForce 7600 and Radeon X1600 cards with HDMI outputs on them, driven by an on-board Sil1930 controller. These are some of the first graphics cards to hit the market that can output HDMI natively with an integrated HDCP cipher engine and support HD-audio as well. Just the thing for that HTPC?"

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  1. oh boy oh boy oh boy oh ... by tomstdenis · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Wait, I still use a VGA monitor, with a higher dot pitch than most any HD TV ...

    I guess this is good for folks who build home theatres out of their computers, but then why do they need a 3D accelerator to show TV or videos?

    Tom

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    1. Re:oh boy oh boy oh boy oh ... by Danathar · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I'm building a dedicated home theater in my basement. When it's done I'd like to be able to play a videogame (shooter or driving game) in the dedicated room. VGA cables lose signal strength over distances and cause ghosting.

    2. Re:oh boy oh boy oh boy oh ... by Lumpy · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Funny I run them 100+ feet all the time. I even use Cat-5 cable and dont get ghosting or smearing. Maybe if you bought the right equipment for extending the signal you would not have problems.

      My longest run was 350 feet without any problems, but that was on a smallish screen, only 13 feet across.

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    3. Re:oh boy oh boy oh boy oh ... by TheRaven64 · · Score: 4, Informative

      If my monitor can do 1280x1024 just fine, why can't a more expensive TV do 1080i or 1080p? 1080p is 1080 lines, with a 16:9 aspect ratio. This gives a resolution of 1920x1080. This is 60% more pixels than your monitor, and bigger in both dimensions.
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  2. Just means more DRM controlled hardware.. by mulvane · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Great, now I can watch all the legal stuff I have valid licenses for. What about my HD rips I make from my legally owned collection for viewing among any of the tv's in my house and for safe archiving of original content?

  3. Hmm by 26199 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Whenever I read 'high definition' these days I think: great, another product that's broken by design.

    Someone wake me up when they've passed that part...

  4. Exactly by cyclomedia · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I'm the proud owner of a toddler, and try as i might occasionally the little bugger will without doubt get her hands on a shiny disc, perhaps accidentally left in the DVD player overnight and she chewed on the remote i accidentally left on the sofa and nibbled the eject button. anyway, you can be careful but hey, i'm only human right.

    Otherwise she might be ill and not feeling up to her usual daily routine of running around the park/garden/trashing-the-house generally so we stick on a bunch of disney/animal films and play them whilst she's chilling out on the sofa and she slyly grabs one whilst i pop the the kitchen to fetch some kiddy medicine.

    wouldnt it be nice if i could play backups of my original copies, and not have to worry if that happens.

    of course one day i'd like the ubiqutous server-under-the-stairs but in the mean time i'd rather not have to fork out another £20 quid because the only PHYSICAL COPY of the movie who's CONTENTS i purchased the RIGHTS TO WATCH got used as a teething ring.

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    1. Re:Exactly by mrchaotica · · Score: 4, Insightful

      AnyDVD (for disney CP) + DVD Decryptor + Auto GK.

      That's not the point! The point is that we shouldn't have to break the law to use the media we legally purchased!

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    2. Re:Exactly by mrchaotica · · Score: 3, Informative

      Yeah there is; it's called the DMCA. It says that even if you would otherwise have the right to make the backup (due to Fair Use), you aren't allowed to because it requires circumventing the CSS encryption on the DVD.

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  5. As Richard Stalmann predicted (warned) by vivaoporto · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Yet another step towards "trusted" (treacherous) computing. A small part of the article:

    Who should your computer take its orders from? Most people think their computers should obey them, not obey someone else. With a plan they call "trusted computing", large media corporations (including the movie companies and record companies), together with computer companies such as Microsoft and Intel, are planning to make your computer obey them instead of you. (...)

    Proprietary software means, fundamentally, that you don't control what it does;(...) It's not surprising that clever businessmen find ways to use their control to put you at a disadvantage.(...) These malicious features are often secret, but even once you know about them it is hard to remove them, since you don't have the source code.

    In the past, these were isolated incidents. "Trusted computing" would make it pervasive. "Treacherous computing" is a more appropriate name, because the plan is designed to make sure your computer will systematically disobey you. In fact, it is designed to stop your computer from functioning as a general-purpose computer. Every operation may require explicit permission.

    The technical idea underlying treacherous computing is that the computer includes a digital encryption and signature device, and the keys are kept secret from you. Proprietary programs will use this device to control which other programs you can run, which documents or data you can access, and what programs you can pass them to. These programs will continually download new authorization rules through the Internet, and impose those rules automatically on your work. If you don't allow your computer to obtain the new rules periodically from the Internet, some capabilities will automatically cease to function.


    Read the rest in the above linked article. It is an interesting reading, even for the ones familiar with it, as we march slowly and steady to the worst case scenario predicted there.

  6. Re:MPAA is not the only fruit by Paulrothrock · · Score: 3, Insightful

    That's all well and good, but if the content is going to be bad, no amount of high definition will fix it.

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  7. What's the deal? by iolaus · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Man, Looks like all the posts so far are gripes! I for one am really excited about this. I've been waiting for a next-gen video card I can use in my HTPC. Not only will the 7600GT based card be able to handle decoding HD video (see articles regarding new Blu-Ray/HD-DVD backup ability) but it will also be able to transmit 8 channels of full quality digital sound. And all this with only one cable to go from my PC to my receiver. Finally, this opens up the possibility of using Vista's new digital room correction capabilities without having to do a digital-to-analog conversion on the PC just to get the processed sound to your receiver. All good things in my book.

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  8. Re: Your Inquiry by danpsmith · · Score: 3, Funny

    And the worst part is that when the studios make good content, it's canceled or sunk very quickly. Most people have probably never heard of Idiocracy, but everyone I've heard who's seen it says it's awesome, but it only ran for one weekend in 8 theaters because some exec got scared because it made fun of all the idiots of the world. And then there's Firefly, and Dr. Who, and Torchwood, which got shown out of order and canceled, butchered unrecognizably to add commercials, and completely ignored respectively.

    Dear Consumer,

    We appreciate you voicing your concerns on this pressing matter and are glad that you choose us for your entertainment purposes. It's people like you that make mass media what it is and we thank you. Unfortunately, many of the shows and movies you listed were not watched by a lot of people so we had to cancel them. The problem is that we need one billion dollars in ad revenue instead of the mere millions that a company would receive by airing quality entertainment and not pandering to ratings. (I mean, who, these days, can afford to run a company on the millions?). You mentioned an interest in the movie and/or television program "Idiocracy," I'm glad to inform you that on the violence channel, one of our best hits "Ow! My Balls" is entering it's 25th season with no end in sight. Perhaps if you enjoyed some of our other quality entertainment, you will find this enticing.

    P.S. Don't you dare use other internet media outlets for your entertainment purposes or we will consider you a pirate and sue you for living. And if you don't buy/see our movies we will consider this profit loss due to the aforementioned piracy.

    Yours Truly,

    The Mass Media Overlords

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  9. Another junk review by cf18 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Sigh... All the new features, untested. Do the audio passthrough work? Any audio lag? Do this whole HDCP bullshit actually works and let you play your HD-DVD through PC to your HDMI+HDCP TV? Can it scale anything to 1080P properly?

    Instead they go through another boring loop of 3D benchmarks. I hate these two-bit hardware sites that only knows how to overclock and run benchmarks.

  10. Little bit of DRM advice... by TemporalBeing · · Score: 4, Insightful

    If you really care about stopping DRM, then DO NOT BUY THESE CARDS! HDCP is DRM at its worst and will not let you show certain content on non-HDCP enable devices. So, if you really do care about DRM and stopping it, and all, then DO NOT BUY THESE CARDS! Show them that we, the customer, do not want DRM.

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