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New US Computer Forensic Institute

Quincy writes "The DHS and Secret Service are setting up a new computer forensic institute in Alabama. Set to open in mid-2008, the new National Computer Forensic Institute will be able to train over 900 law enforcement officers per year. 'It will initially be staffed by 18 Secret Service agents and will feature classrooms, a forensic laboratory, an evidence vault, and server rooms. Courses will be offered in the investigation of electronic crimes, network intrusion investigation, and computer forensics... [T]he Secret Service says that it will help to bring judges and prosecutors up to speed as well.'" Maybe over time we'll see fewer botches of justice like those in the news recently.

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  1. I wonder. by AltGrendel · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Do you HAVE to be a law officer, or can anyone sign up?

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    1. Re:I wonder. by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 3, Funny

      A friend of mine got a job with the FBI as a network technician. He carries a badge and gun with his networking gear. I guess the gun is needed for those rare occasions when troubleshooting gets out of hand.

    2. Re:I wonder. by lawpoop · · Score: 4, Insightful

      My hope is that more computer science majors go into law enforcement.

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    3. Re:I wonder. by Stephen+Tennant · · Score: 4, Funny
      "Oh officer, you're going to arrest me? Please, just take a look in this box first..."

      Officer, sweating, gulping, "Is that what I think it is?"

      "That's right, and if this crate of mint condition, first edition gold-embossed Call of Cthulu sets were to disappear, I'm sure no one would mind too much, as these things tend to happen..."

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    4. Re:I wonder. by poopdeville · · Score: 2, Interesting

      A bachelor's degree is a requirement to join the force in many major cities.

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  2. So, they have computers in Alabama now? by Kenja · · Score: 3, Funny

    Queue the banjo music.

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    1. Re:So, they have computers in Alabama now? by PPH · · Score: 4, Funny

      We also have Huntsville, where all of our nice NASA research goes on.

      On advanced technologies for converting between feet and meters, no doubt.
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  3. Sounds like a near-impossible task by 26199 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Figuring out what happened in a computer system months after the fact is not easy. Most programmers have more than enough trouble figuring out what exactly happened in their own programs thirty seconds ago.

    Still -- not to say it's a bad idea. You have to start somewhere...

  4. More of the same by HomelessInLaJolla · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The Secret Service has tried to produce aids like their "Best practices for seizing electronic evidence", and the National Institute of Justice has published its guide to "Digital Evidence in the Courtroom", but the need for more advanced training has been obvious in numerous recent cases This will consist mostly of practicing the correct SOP for the using the forklift to cart out every single piece of computer equipment on the site. I sincerely doubt that they'll be teaching any discretionary tactics or give up their current practice of confiscating everything in sight.
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  5. Huh? by zappepcs · · Score: 2, Insightful

    FTFS: " Set to open in mid-2008, the new National Computer Forensic Institute will be able to train over 900 law enforcement officers per year. 'It will initially be staffed by 18 Secret Service agents and will feature classrooms, a forensic laboratory, an evidence vault, and server rooms. "

    Holy fsck! A full year from now? In a year computers will have changed enough to cause this to falter badly from the start! It will take only one worm of the right design, one change to hard drive technology, one of any number of things to change the virtual face of computer forensics. That change could happen next week. This taking over a year to put in production doesn't sound even close to flexible enough to accomplish the stated goals!

    1. Re:Huh? by $RANDOMLUSER · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Not to worry - this is brought to you by the Department of Homeland Security, whose charter is "spend all our budget on grants, ask for more next year", and whose primary product is press releases. Nothing to see here, move along.

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  6. They need two separate education tracks by MikeRT · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Police investigators need much more than the theory, they need indepth coverage of the practices. Prosecutors and judges need more of the theory, the pros and cons, etc. A prosecutor doesn't need to know how to hunt down a trojan horse, but should be able to look at a police report and for the most part completely grok the methods the police used as a knowledgeable reader. Same with the judge.

  7. The other side by Target+Drone · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The Secret Service says that it will help to bring judges and prosecutors up to speed as well.'"

    What about defense attorneys?

    1. Re:The other side by StewedSquirrel · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Damn good point.

      But since the prosecutorial state is interested in prosecuting and sentencing as many people as possible for as long as possible, they have no incentive to actually DEFEND people... I guarantee the tone of these classes is "how to get more convictions".... where it should be "how to better determine the truth".

      "How can we make an airtight case against the 15 year old who made a porno of his girlfriend?"

      mmmmhmmm

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  8. People have no idea how to *really* erase a file by vinn01 · · Score: 2, Interesting


    Microsoft must be the biggest supporter of computer forensic investigators.

    Even since DOS 1.0, Microsoft operating systems never really erase a file. Now, they use cache, temp files, and the recycling bin to make lots of copies too. And that's only on the unerased portion of the hard drive. Chances are there are more copies on the erased data sectors.

    Most users who really want to erase a file from the file system have to erase about two or three copies (if they know where the copies are). Wiping a file only zaps the original, not the copies.

    Those investigators have it too easy.

    My wiping program is made by Craftsman Tools (claw or ball-peen configuration)

  9. meager offerings by malevolentjelly · · Score: 2, Funny

    'It will initially be staffed by 18 Secret Service agents and will feature classrooms, a forensic laboratory, an evidence vault, and server rooms. No water slide? Those republicans sure know how to "starve the beast"...
  10. Alabama? by purpleraison · · Score: 2, Funny
    Computer forensics, and Alabama??

    Am I the only one here who got a laugh out of this?

    Redneck #1: (pokes computer with a stick) "dang, can't say ah evah seen one of dem der thangs b'for"

    Reneck #2: (spits out chewing tobacco) "Well, ah dunno wut dat der thang is, but I rekon we oughta be shootin' it bout now"

    Redneck #1: (opens beer from 6-pack holster on belt) "hmm, watchu say we take dis inta town here, and seeif summun'll know what it is?"

    Reneck #2: "boy.. are you kiddin? We's the smart ones in dis heah town! I'm tellin ya'll that dis is from space. Dat's waht dis is! A space ve-hic-al"

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  11. Re:People have no idea how to *really* erase a fil by mandelbr0t · · Score: 2, Informative

    My wiping program is made by Craftsman Tools (claw or ball-peen configuration) So violent! A powerful electromagnet should make any data recovered from the HDD suspect at best, and most likely non-existant. The electomagnet has the advantage of requiring only a single switch, and it can be flicked remotely.
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  12. Super Computers? by commisaro · · Score: 4, Funny

    But will this computers have the ubiquitous CSI "Picture Enhance" feature?