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Creating A Virtual Office?

Fubar asks: "My small company of 10 employees is considering letting our lease run out on our office space and is thinking about having everyone work from home (or wherever they want). I have been tasked with putting a plan together to provide voice and data connectivity to each employee. What sort of solutions have you implemented?" I'm considering the following for providing voice service:

+ Order an extra analog line for each employee
+ Reimburse each employee for a second line on their cell phones
+ Host our current phone system in my home office, add a VoIP card and provide an endpoint for each employee
+ Use third-party VoIP hosting service"
What options have you used to create a virtual office, and what suggestions would might you give to anyone else attempting to do the same?

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  1. Virtual Office in Second Life by andy314159pi · · Score: 5, Funny

    I would create my virtual office in second life but I'd be afraid that giant wieners would run through my lobby and scare away my customers.

  2. Options? by nacturation · · Score: 4, Interesting

    What options have you used to create a virtual office, and what suggestions would might you give to anyone else attempting to do the same? My advice: don't. If you're looking to cut costs, find some cheaper office space elsewhere. You lose a lot more by having everyone isolated than you'd gain on the bottom line.
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    1. Re:Options? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I'd agree with this. It's not exactly the same, but I'm a uni student and studying by correspondence this semester. I was getting credits and distinctions on campus, but am thinking about pulling out because I can't get any work done studying like this. It's much, much harder working by yourself. VOIP and IM doesn't cut it.

    2. Re:Options? by potat0man · · Score: 2, Insightful

      VOIP and IM doesn't cut it.

      And yet despite your anecdote virtually every collabratively made open source software continues to exist.

    3. Re:Options? by tftp · · Score: 3, Insightful
      The missing factor here is that F/OSS developers are unpaid volunteers, not paid employees.

      An employee must be either a co-owner of the business, or an angel, to efficiently work from home. I have employees who need constant supervision to work at the office even; at home they'd be surfing pr0n all day long - and you can't monitor them, and you can't prove anything. Hard to fire in such conditions; the employee may file a lawsuit against you and win - because it was *you* who set up the work this way.

    4. Re:Options? by DieNadel · · Score: 5, Interesting

      We actually have a solution that works like a charm: our bug-tracking and development-request system shows all the tasks that are the responsibility of a developer, and it counts down the days to each task's expiration date.

      When the expiration date is 10 business days away, the task becomes yellow colored. 5 days away, and it becomes red. 2 days, and you'll find it black colored. With this setting, it's really easy for our manager to visually check how the group is performing (we have groups ranging from 5 to 30 developers).

      If you miss the deadline to often, your manager calls you up and sets a meeting to question your performance. Perform too poorly, and you're history :-)

      It looks simple, and it is. The developer can do whatever s/he wants, we really don't care, as long as her/his tasks are being dealt with AND our QA team isn't finding too many bugs on her/his implementations and fixes.

      Oh, and in case you're wondering, we use (argh) Lotus Notes for task control.

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    5. Re:Options? by utnapistim · · Score: 5, Informative

      And yet despite your anecdote virtually every collabratively made open source software continues to exist.

      That software covers a real need, and there's no denying that.

      That said, you loose a lot from cutting on the close contact between employees. In that regard, email is better than snail mail, chat is better than email, phone/VoIP is better than chat, video-chat is better than phone and close contact is better than all of them put together.

      When considering team work/communication, the information transfer suffers a lot if you don't have close contact. I'm not sure if its the level of comfort you establish with day-to-day contact or trust in team members or whatever else, but I think working remotely only works as a last resort, or just as a short-term solution.

      I've worked in an outsourcing company (writing software for some other company with managers on "the other side") and the contact was always somewhat forced, or it tended to become more forced in a few weeks without close contact. I've also been in three or four-way teleconferences with 10 to 20 people on each side in a separate conference room and its the same: there's a slight feeling of ... awkwardness (I guess) that creeps in; conversations are harder to follow, people tent to mute the phone on the other side and chat about something else as long as they don't have something immediate to say and so on ...

      In the end, you loose on communication, on the volume of information you transfer and big-time on efficiency (its much more difficult and time and resource consuming to make a phone call/open a chat, than to turn your head to your colleagues and announce "Hey, I locked the sources for XYZ on my machine").

      In conclusion, I'd consider working from home as a long term solution only as a last resort.

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    6. Re:Options? by lwriemen · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Not everyone hates their job. If you have only "employees who need constant supervision to work", then you or your company is probably the real problem. I mean there are people who do a conscientious job cleaning toilets or collecting garbage.

    7. Re:Options? by cberetz · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I couldn't disagree more. I am one of the 50% of IBM's 360,000 employees worldwide that work remotely. Having been at it for more than a year, I am loathe to EVAR go back to a "normal" office environment. I remain connected to my extended team throughout the day via instant messaging, email and phone. I can work in my home office, at any of our city's many cafes with Internet access, a friend's house, or the nearest IBM facility (which I've never been to. Telling, huh?). Freed from the distractions of office chats/politics/meetings my productivity has increased.

      Now all that said, this arrangement is not for everyone. I travel about 4-5 overnights per month, which I believe is an essential part of keeping me sane and connected to meatspace. Your mileage may vary.

    8. Re:Options? by GeckoX · · Score: 3, Informative

      Here here. Working remotely can work very very well, especially for the people that can handle it well.

      The problem I've had is managers that refuse to work with employees that work remotely. If your management won't support it, you're screwed, period.

      Just happened to me. I've been working at the same place for 8 years. Always worked 1-2 days from home. The last 3 years I've been working 3-4 days at home due to moving farther away from the office. Worked great. Not one co-worker has ever had a complaint. My past manager never had a complaint. People realized that when I worked from home, I tended to work 10-12 hour days, and better quality of work to boot.

      Then 6 months ago, new manager. I now know that it was at the very moment he walked in the door that my time there was up, though I didn't realize it at the time. Doesn't matter how much I worked. Doesn't matter how much I produced. Doesn't matter that my work was high quality. Doesn't matter that not one co-worker had any problem working with me remotely. What matters is when you have an insecure control-freak of a manager. I got severed a few weeks ago. Reason given was that things weren't working out satisfactorily with my working situation. At least they were too stupid to think things through...ends up being termination without cause. (Not one single comment or mention of any problem with the arrangement over 8 entire years working there...and we had 2 peer and management reviews every year...you can't suddenly decide 'it's not working out and never was' after 8 years.)

      If your management can't handle it, don't even think of trying. You WILL be looking for a job without a doubt if you do. But if you can find a mature and competent manager that isn't threatened by the people working for them...run with it by all means! Up until the last 6 months this was the best job I've ever had.

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    9. Re:Options? by HairyHighlander · · Score: 2, Informative

      Not a problem for me or a number of other employees within our company both in Europe and the US. Admittedly I do travel into the office 1 week out of 8, but I may not necessarily be there for the whole week it may only be a couple of days. I've been working from home for over 4 years. My trips to the office weren't always so organised and I could go months without popping in. Others will only rarely appear in the office.

      Last year the company installed a VOIP system in the UK (the US already used one) which is used throughout the office as well as those of us working remotely. Prior to that I either claimed calls made on my own phone or used a company mobile phone. We've always used IM for keeping in contact with each other. We did think about setting up video conferencing but it never really got anywhere. I'm not sure it is an ideal solution for an entire office though and do like to be able to visit the office now and again. Like others have said, finding some smaller/cheaper office space might be the better option.

  3. A suggestion by icepick72 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Those employees had better be damned dedicated to the company if no centralized physical space exists anymore. You will find yourselves meeting in a lot of places. Maybe just downgrade the space to something like a meeting room you can rent a few times a week.

    1. Re:A suggestion by AnonChef · · Score: 5, Informative

      Those employees had better be damned dedicated to the company if no centralized physical space exists anymore. You will find yourselves meeting in a lot of places.
      Maybe just downgrade the space to something like a meeting room you can rent a few times a week. As someone who's been working in a virtual office for 3 years I agree, a meeting place is essential.
      You should have (in my opinion) at least one physical meeting per week and one phone meeting per day to stay connected to your co-workers.

      And you need a different approach to management. If you have a bad boss (as I did) you can get less information and feedback. Out of sight out of mind...

      I'm looking forward to getting a desk and co-workers again, at a new job in a month.
  4. Easy way to do it. by Wiseleo · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Communications:

    1. VoIP (something like Packet8) or company-paid cell phone, probably a nextel group plan. Actually, Skype conferencing should work good enough.
    2. Workstations - Windows Server 2003 Terminal Services Server. Then you don't care about what their workstations are like and the environment is manageable so you have no backup headaches.
    3. In-person lunches at least once a week. It can get really boring to work from home!

    I implement virtual offices all the time, so feel free to contact me through my website.

    Good luck.

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    1. Re:Easy way to do it. by AnonChef · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Communications:

      1. VoIP (something like Packet8) or company-paid cell phone, probably a nextel group plan. Actually, Skype conferencing should work good enough.
        You really should go with company-paid cell phones. That way you can work from anywhere, this is the biggest perk of working without an office. VoIP only works (good) with a stable internet connection and no hotspot can guarantee that.

  5. The lease can't be that expensive by tftp · · Score: 4, Insightful
    I can't imagine that the lease is one of your problems. If you and your employees earn $50,000/yr it's, say, $500K per year in "bring home" cash, or roughly $1M with burdening. This place wants $1,500/mo, or $18K/yr - which is 2% of your salary budget. And that is not the cheapest place; other people rent for $0.50/sq.ft, for example, and there are tons of offers (not surprising with this market.)

    By isolating people you make social workings of the company impossible. You can't have face to face meetings, you can't casually walk up to someone and sketch a diagram or two, you complicate things that don't have to be complicated. IMO, you will lose far more in productivity than you gain in giving up the office space. How many companies do that? Hardly any; even one-man companies often maintain an office which is their public face - where they have an address, where they meet visitors, where they make phone calls, where they are a business. And at home they are at home - relaxing, reading, having family etc. Mixing work and home is bad. It's even difficult to work at home, where other distractions are present.

    1. Re:The lease can't be that expensive by Nurgled · · Score: 2, Interesting

      As someone who is working at home right this second -- albeit not as a regular arrangement, but just because I can't get into the office this week -- I have to second the loss of productivity. I feel like I'm out in my own little world... things go on without me, and I don't get informed of things like service outages. The only reason I know there are other co-workers out there is because I occasionally get an email asking me to call back a customer that called into the office.

      That and I seem to find myself reading slashdot a lot more than I do when I'm in the office..

  6. Remote working by canuck57 · · Score: 5, Informative

    I wouldn't do it as many people remote work as goof off work. My experience is at most 25% of the people really work at home, and they are the ones absolutely passionate about what they do. Traits successful to work at home:

    • Self motivated and works on their own without any intervention
    • Independent and self reliant
    • Self disciplined
    • Makes a concerted effort to be available
    • Does not have high social needs

    If the person can't demonstraight the above at the office, it will only become worse working at home.

    So your major question should be are your staff suitable? My guess is some are, and many not. I am going through this with a consultant right now, he shows a low connect time, no results and is precisely a day away from being fired. Be prepared to do this for a lack of performance.

  7. Exactly: Don't. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I agree completely. I'm involved a side project that's trying to get off the ground as a legitimate business, and only two of us out of seven on the team are in the same geographical area. We've done audio and video conferencing (Skype seems to work best for cross-platform multi-way audio, nobody seems to do reliable cross-platform video but iChat has given us the best quality for one on one), but it's so much less efficient than being in the same room. Everything is more time consuming over long distance, whether it's via video chat, audio, or text/email. This is making our progress much slower than we'd like.

    Unless your team has well defined roles and each person can (and will) work effectively without much discussion, I'd say don't ditch the office just yet. And especially if communication is key to your success, make sure people get into the same room often. There's just no substitute for meeting face to face.

  8. Switching to Home Offices may be a bad idea. by What+the+Frag · · Score: 4, Interesting

    First of all, consider to rent a cheaper place.

    Personally, I don't like having my whole office at home. In my case it's not about children or other sources of noises but I don't feel "at work" sitting in front of my PC. I would require a separate (and quite) working room to be productive.

    Continuing with noises - if some employees have a quick question they'll call each other. This may be very disturbing.

    Next, consider putting in cost for connectivity. Not only phone lines and a phone server, you will need a central VPN server to share files.

    Then, think about security. You don't have any control about the employees PCs anymore. I could bet that there are an easy target for malware. Think about that the computers may be used by other people, like their kids. Don't wait for a "Cool I ownz sensitive data of that company - letz put on myspace to show how coolz I am!" to happen.

    Last point is, where to meet up with customers? Tell them you not have an office and meet at Starbucks?

    Seriously, have a look around for a cheaper office.

  9. Tools we use by Nightlight3 · · Score: 3, Informative
    Our company, about 30 people, 7 programmers, has no physical office (it is spread over 3 continents and both US coasts in 5 states), and telecommutes instead using this tool. It is a teleconferencing software which has a very good desktop, app and window real time screen shots, similar to Remote Desktop (e.g. VNC, TS), but with synchronized multistream VOIP and common pointers, so one can look over another programmer's code, real time program output/ui or debug dumps (he just brings up his VS and turns on the app type 'screen camera' on), discuss it or present Power Point to the entire team. Multiple people in a conference can turn on their screen broadcasts, microphones, web cams, although for the most part we use it for 2 or 3 programmers at a time, with just mic and screen cams. One can also yield remote control over their desktop or just a single app to another participant (the whole session can be broadcast to entire group e.g. for a demo). Our tech support and sales use it as well, since it lets them take calls from java clients (any potential or existent customer with a browser visiting our web site), triggered by a click at various places on our web pages.

    Tech support uses it sometimes with remote control yielded by a customer (through their Java client) to check the reported problems with our apps and their system config. One can even look, with customer permission, in real time into remote threads (Dr. Watson style hex dumps), all windows (a la SDK Spy++), apps, dll's, memory heaps (layout and hex dumps). These latter low level features are usually done when tech support guy has to conference in a programmer into his tech support session to help out with some trickier problem. In 1990s, I used to travel to customer locations to do this kind of troubleshooting.

  10. The open eleven steps to telecommuting by NZheretic · · Score: 5, Informative
    From my blog Friday, October 28, 2005 The open eleven steps to telecommuting

    I have set up and supported remote sites and home based telecommuting. Listen to my advice, listen very carefully and save your sanity.

    If your organization is large enough then it is likely that you will have a few older desktop PCs that have been or are due for replacement during an upgrade cycle. PCs that are inadequate for Microsoft XP and Office2003 are more than powerful enough for many current versions of Linux, especially for the role of server. Also second hand PCs with the required specifications are very cheaply acquired.

    1) Find an older PC, at least a PII 300 with 256 MB memory, to set up as a headless ( no display or keyboard ) server and firewall. A simple web based interface ( or even an external hardware push button ) can be used by the local users to start/stop the server and internet connection. All other maintenance should be handled remotely via ssh, webmin and VNC.
    2) Install a second NIC or connect the modem directly to the server. Connection to the Internet should be through the server and connection to the Office should be through a VPN on the server. Use a dynamic IP service for each site so you can remotely log on to the local server via ssh.
    3) Install a new IDE hard drive in a 3.5" removable rack and tray. The drive should be than big enough for the operating system (Linux of course) and copies of some of the local desktop partitions. A telecommuter can shut down the server and bring in the drive during the day to resync and repair.
    4) Install a DHCP demon on the local server to allocate local IP addresses, DNS and gateway settings. If the desktops are network boot capable then install TFTP to remotely boot and use Knoppix via PXE and the network. If the desktop OS is constantly crashing, or is infected by malware, the user can select PXE/network boot via the BIOS, and boot into Knoppix. The user can then be instructed over the phone to enable the ssh server to allow remote scan,repair and reimaging of the desktop partitions. The user can use the Knoppix desktop to continue working with full access to files while the the remote administrator fixes/reimages the drive in the background.( Consider hiring someone who knows how to customise Knoppix or another live Linux system for your setup )
    5) Partition the desktops with as small as required C: partition ( or in the case of Linux the root partition ) for software. When software is install, use dd and netcat via live Knoppix to copy/clone a snapshot of the partition to the server. You can allocate the remaining free space as a persistent partition where documents are stored.
    6) Install and enable remote VNC service on all the platforms, but only allow incoming connections from the local server ( which is redirected over a SSH tunnel ).
    7) For local backup, create share directories on the desktop accessible by the server. On the local server create loopback encrypted file systems, unmount and copy the images to the desktops shares in chunks, using redundancy if enough space is available on the desktops. Checksum ( MD5 is enough ) each piece.
    8) If the network load to the Office is taking up all the available internet bandwidth or the connection is just too slow then install proxy servers on the local server. You can also consider using a distributed filesystem ( OpenAFS is still the best ) wi

  11. Re:There's a middle... by wireloose · · Score: 3, Informative

    If you are near a community college, you might have more meeting options. Many community colleges support small local businesses directly. While I cannot guarantee that the closest college to you has all this, these are fairly commonly available:

    Meeting rooms in their libraries or other facilities that can be used for free or rented for a nominal fee.
    Rooms with podiums, video projectors, and even computers that can be used or rented.
    Small business support centers with specialized facilities and support options.
    Access to costly online research databases available to community patrons.
    Cafeterias that can internally cater meetings.

    With more than 3,000 community / technical colleges across the US, there might be something near you. Many times, even though the college itself might be distant, it might have a local campus or branch with some of the options above.

  12. Look at your needs before you do anything. by Targon · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Every business is different, and as a result, the best way to run it will be based on what the business is, and if that will work for you.

    Look as customer communication. How do your customers contact you, and if you go to a distributed environment, how will that affect your customers calling in? Do you have a receptionist who answers the phones?

    Do most of your employees work in the office, or do they come in to work, but then go out to service their employees while spending only an hour or so in the office each day?

    Do you and your employees live in the same area, or do you all spend 30-90 minutes each way driving in to work?

    Do customers have the ability to talk directly to the employees? This may sound like a strange question, but not all companies want their employees to be contacted directly, and instead will have the people answering the main number take messages.

    Being able to talk face to face with your employees on a regular basis is important here. You also won't be able to see if a new employee is doing things the right way or the wrong way if you let EVERYONE work from home. In some cases though, it makes sense to have SOME people who can work from home, but others who MUST show up at some sort of office.

  13. My thoughts by invisik · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Hi,

    I serve many small local business, many who have some employees that work from from regularly or permenantly.

    For telephone, the cell phone makes the most sense. Works anywhere and if you get all employees on the same carrier, you can get free mobile-to-mobile calls, thus reducing the amount of minutes everyone needs. See if you can put them all on a large family plan or something.

    For data, DSL/cable at people's homes is great, but a step further would be internet via cell phone/Treo/Blackberry when they are mobile. If you get Blackberry's on one of the above plans, the tethering internet access is often included (some carriers). Depends if they will be sitting at their home "desks" all day or running around more.

    Employees should still have company-provided computers. A huge huge problem is the kids of the employees getting on their home computers and messing things up (spyware, consumer apps, not running updates, etc). Kids have their computer, Mom and Dad have another password protected computer that kids do not use even if just for a second.

    I would also recommend still having a server somewhere for backup and to ensure all of the company files are stored in one place. Novell's iFolder product is an excellent choice for getting files synced back to a server with little to no user interaction. It comes in their Open Workgroup Suite package (along with GroupWise for e-mail, etc, etc, the works.) They also have an open-sourced version of iFolder at http://www.ifolder.com/ but last I looked it was somewhat unstable.

    You still will have to deal with tech support of everyone's PC (printing, drive crashes, all the regular stuff) so a remote control package that will traverse NAT would be helpful. UltraVNC has a reverse-VNC mode that will work in this way with the user just kicking off the connection and you taking it from there. Also, a software management type app would be nice for patching and software distrribution. Don't want to have to run to everyone's house to install a new program, etc, if possible. Novell's ZENWorks is aaaa decent general purpose management app and something like Shavlik is good for patching Windows boxes.

    As others have mentioned, communication is key between employees. Encourage them to meet and/or use those cells phones a lot, especially if they have free mobile-t0-mobile calls they have no reason not to pick up the phone regularly.

    The benefits can be great if done right. There's nothing like getting up and walking into the next room to be at work!

    -m

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  14. So much anti-telecommuter FUD! WTF? by Sodade · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I am totally blown away that so many people responded to this guy's question with anti-telecommuter FUD.
    Having been a telecommuter for five years, I think I have a pretty good perspective on the value proposition:

    1. Employee retention. Employees that telecommute have cheap golden handcuffs. I could never go back to commuting to a fucking cube farm and, unfortunately, employers that offer telecommuting are few and far between (due to the luddite FUD like we saw on this topic).

    2. Commuting is rediculous. I used to spend three hours a day commuting. Lots of people do worse. During those three hours, I am not working and generally unavailable (unless I am driving solo, which means I can take phone calls, but has a huge social impact). Now that I work at home, I am available at 6am for email and chat while I am eating breakfast - that's 8am on the east coast and 2pm for Western Europe. If you include commuting time as work (since it really is), yes I "work" less than a cube farmer, but I am available more.

    3. Work shouldn't be social time. If I want to socialize, I will do so with my friends, not my co-workers. I used to hate going to the cube farm because I knew I would have to spend too much time with the idle chit chat at the "watercooler," or worse yet, in my fricking cube. Socializing with your co-workers does NOT make your work relationship better, in fact it makes it much harder to keep people focused on actually working.

    3. Face time is not that important. I am a product manager and one could say, of all the telecommutable jobs, being a PM should require more face time. Bullshit. The real problem is that many people in the corporate world do not know how to have an effective conference call. I get stuck on these calls all the time and the worst offenders are the people who work at the cube farm mothership in San Jose. When the call is something I care about, I will lead the meeting. When I am at the cube farm mothership for meetings, they are usually far less productive.

    4. Living in a major metro sucks ass. I lived in the Bay Area for much of my life and, while it is an OK place to go for a vacation, I'd never want to live in that shit hole again. I live in the mountains of New Mexico now. It takes me 15 minutes to get to civilization (Whole Foods, restaurants, symphony, airport, etc...). For the price of my awesome spread on 3 acres, I could buy a crackerbox house in the far flung suburbs if I had to work in the Bay Area. I would have to drive hours to get to work.