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Bill Gates to Finally Receive His Harvard Degree

coondoggie writes "It's not like he needs it to beef up his résumé, but the world's richest college dropout finally is getting his degree. Bill Gates, chairman of Microsoft, will speak at Harvard University's commencement ceremony in June and, like all commencement speakers, will receive an honorary degree from the institution. It's hard to guess if Gates, the wealthiest person in the world and co-founder of a company that brought in $44 billion in revenue last year, cares. But the programming whiz who once dropped out of Harvard will likely feel some sense of satisfaction."

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  1. Rich man's GED by Aqua+OS+X · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I tend to view the bachelors degree as the high school diploma of the 21st century...
    so I guess that makes the honorary degree something akin to a rich man's GED.

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    1. Re:Rich man's GED by Seumas · · Score: 3, Insightful

      As a drop-out-done-good myself (probably doing better than anyone I ever went to school with as well as the teachers and administrators), I would probably react to an honorary degree with a big fuck you. Like someone who stuck it out on their own and made something great for themselves in the world inevitably need some stamp of approval from a bunch of nose-in-the-air academic snoots?

    2. Re:Rich man's GED by neonmonk · · Score: 5, Informative

      Stamp of approval?

      It's an honorary degree, it's more like saying "we recognise you as being prominent in this field and here's the proof."

      Not: "omglolwtf u didnt get a degree heres one now ur one of us!!1 lol"

    3. Re:Rich man's GED by Aqua+OS+X · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Making more money then university faculty or administrative staff isn't very hard to do. You get into that line of work because you're making and impact and or getting solid benefits, not because you plan on owning a winter home in Aspen.

      And as for the "stamp of approval..." ... well, if you're attending a university for a stamp of approval you are, at the very least, not utilizing that resource properly.

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    4. Re:Rich man's GED by Bastard+of+Subhumani · · Score: 5, Funny

      Which field? I didn't know there was a subject called "monopology".

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    5. Re:Rich man's GED by neonmonk · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Yes, but he's giving a talk to people who are striving to get a degree. So he obviously sees it as something that's relatively worthwhile. He even tried to get one himself.

      I think you're putting too much stock into this "honorary degree," it of course isn't worth the paper it's written on and everyone knows that, including him.

      It's just nice to get recognition, who cares who it's from.

      That's all it is, recognition. If you're too high and mighty with your 'I did well in spite of having a degree Ha Ha Ha society take that!' then I think you're missing the point (and it's probably a good thing you didn't bother spending 4/5 years attaining a degree).

    6. Re:Rich man's GED by StarvingSE · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Why does there seem to be such a big hatred for college degrees here on slashdot? I'm not trying to flamebait or anything, but it seems that every time there is a story about college (especially computer science programs), there's always a bunch of people who chime in on how a degree is useless.

      It's not useless. Most companies require it for you to be able to work for them. A college degree (earned, not necessarily honorary) is valuable in that it shows that you can dedicate yourself to something and accomplish it. Also, for most people it's the first time they are on their own to figure out their own lives. At least for me, the life experiences during college are more valuable than the actual education. The college experience can be invaluable for discovering yourself and finding out how you want to live the rest of your life.

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    7. Re:Rich man's GED by Sobrique · · Score: 5, Insightful
      Easy answer? Sour Grapes.

      More indepth answer? If you assume a degree is synonymous with 'being qualified' you are incorrect. There are a large number of graduates who have yet to learn the 'tough lesson' that their degree doesn't actually carry much weight. So the Slashdot community is helpfully trying to get them focussed on the fact that a degree, or lack thereof, isn't a binary state factor. It's an enabler, and it's useful, but then... so is having spent 3 years 'in the industry' whilst everyone else was off getting their degree.

    8. Re:Rich man's GED by rikkards · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Stamp of approval?

      It's an honorary degree, it's more like saying "we recognise you as being prominent in this field and here's the proof."

      Not: "omglolwtf u didnt get a degree heres one now ur one of us!!1 lol"


      Actually honorary degrees are more of a "we need someone to speak at our graduation and we will give you one as payment". Nothing more, nothing less. Kind of cheapens what the real graduates are getting IMHO.

    9. Re:Rich man's GED by smchris · · Score: 5, Funny

      It's an honorary degree, it's more like saying "we recognise you as being prominent in this field and here's the proof."

      Yup. He better not try to pass it off as a real degree on a job applicaton or he'll be in trouble.

    10. Re:Rich man's GED by nharmon · · Score: 3, Insightful

      It isn't that there is a hatred for college degrees, or even an attitude that they are completely useless. I think the attitude is that college degrees have unnecessarily become a "basic education" credential where the absence of carries with it a certain stigma. And I can certainly understand why people would be upset about that.

      Certainly college degrees aren't useless, but in the same respect they aren't completely necessary. I have a fairly well paying job without a bachelor's degree. However that being said, I am a part-time student pursuing a bachelor's degree, so obviously I do not view it as useless.

    11. Re:Rich man's GED by Raffaello · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Programming "whiz" [sic] is right - like cheese whiz. It was Paul Allen who was the wizard programmer, not Gates, who was always the businessman. Of course they wanted the colloquial abbreviation "wiz."

    12. Re:Rich man's GED by Cylix · · Score: 3, Funny

      Yeah he started this little company a while ago.

      Not really sure what happened with it.

      Apparently, it's a big fuss in some circles... go figure.

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    13. Re:Rich man's GED by merlin262 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I think it's just part of the slashdot demographic.

      Let me illustrate an average slashdot poster. I met a friend of a friend. The conversation went like this.

      "So, where do you work?"

      "I'm actually not right now"

      "Oh, so what school are you going to?"

      "I'm not going to college, the school messed me up"

      "Oh, ok"

      This person lives w/ their parents, and claims to enjoy "intelligent conversation". When you consider the number of self-styled experts that know everything on a subject, I'd say you have a large number of people like this here. They are too smart for school, too good for a job, and thus live at home w/ their parents. They explain this meaningless existance by posting on slashdot and talking about why these things don't matter.

      In short, the reason why that is often posted: Virgins.

    14. Re:Rich man's GED by kdfosterjr · · Score: 2, Insightful

      College degrees pretty much say "I can be taught." It does not say what you were taught, nor does it say what you know. Just last week I had to instruct a person with a PhD in his title along with the position of "Chief Technology Officer" on how to read an e-mail header. I do not think that everyone is against degrees, I feel that most are against what Corporate America places on degrees. I myself have worked in the IT field for about 30+ years, I dropped out of college after my second year. I have worked for my present company for 17 years. If I were to apply today for my current job I would not be qualified. I do not have a degree. That is what erks everyone. Bill Gates is not qualified for the position he currently holds. His own company would not hire him if he were to apply today. He does not have a degree.

    15. Re:Rich man's GED by eln · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Business is an academic field.

    16. Re:Rich man's GED by rantingkitten · · Score: 2, Insightful

      That employers require a degree of people is not evidence that a degree is useful. HR departments are especially notorious for wanting to see degrees for jobs that don't require them, and in any case, the fact that "a degree" is often all that's needed is good evidence that it's useless. "You have a four year degree? Great, welcome aboard!" Of course, it's a degree in, like, anthropology or something, and you're trying to get jobs in the IT sector, but nobody cares, as long as you have a piece of paper proving you sat around for four years learning just enough to pass some tests and then forget it forever. And do I really need to get into the "business" degrees that are so shit-hot right now, where you take four years to learn corporate crap that would take you six months to absorb by experience in an actual job? Yes, you get a lot out of the "life experience" of college, but you also get a lot out of kicking around on your own for a few years and seeing what the real world is like. A formalized education is a tool, and not one that everyone needs -- I'd go so far as to say it's one that most people don't need. We have a completely artificial expectation set by employers who are aware that it's an employer's market and they can get as choosy as they want.

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    17. Re:Rich man's GED by malevolentjelly · · Score: 3, Informative

      Bill Gates used to write compilers. I'm sure he's an above average coder- people who used to work at Microsoft in the 80's/early 90's have described Bill Gates' problem solving abilities as pretty solid. He'd help people solve a code issue every now and then.

      In the original software giants, a lot of the people up-high are solid programmers. Just because they're rich doesn't mean they're not self-made.

  2. Already has several others by Cocoshimmy · · Score: 4, Informative

    Bill Gates has already received honorary degrees from several other institutions: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Gates#Awards_and _recognition

    Yawn!!!

    1. Re:Already has several others by Dogtanian · · Score: 3, Insightful

      it's discouraging that such a top figure in computing really never had anything inspirational to say - at least pertaining the field. Gates' major achievements are as a businessman, not as a computer scientist. Not saying that he's stupid in that area; quite the opposite (e.g. given the speed he apparently designed MS BASIC with, he clearly has skill). However, he didn't actually invent BASIC (as a language) or even write MS-DOS originally. On the other hand, who can deny that he's a very skilled businessman?
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    2. Re:Already has several others by xtracto · · Score: 4, Insightful

      quite the opposite (e.g. given the speed he apparently designed MS BASIC with, he clearly has skill). However, he didn't actually invent BASIC (as a language) or even write MS-DOS originally

      But, how /many/ people do you know that have "invented" or wrote original software?, I know I wont be very popular saying this over here but *even* Linus Trovalds took Minix as the basis for Linux, and he didnt *wrote* all of the Linux kernel you know. Technical people should not only be judged by the number of lines they write but by the *overall* influence they have to their field.

      Bill Gates has had a really HUGE influence to the field (some good, some bad, but in my opinion, more good than bad). I would think that he deserves more like a Master degree... maybe *even* a PhD (although maybe he is not familiar with research methodologies).

      I know here in slashdot more than 50% of people do not like him but I think overall, after he dies he will be nicely remembered as the guy who introduced computers to the masses.

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    3. Re:Already has several others by fsmunoz · · Score: 2, Informative

      Indeed, the same happened here in Portugal. The Sinclair ZX Spectrum 48k was what introduced computing to the masses, even to lower middle class people. It was relatively cheap, and had lots of games. Many people started programming on them (I did... "10 REM MY FIRST PROGRAM"). About 60% of the people that I know still remember the "(c) 1982 Sinclair Research Ltd" greeting. The Timex clones were also popular - I hear that especiall in Poland and Portugal, but I can only vouch for the latter. I remember buying UK magazines with code listings, and soon lots of domestic stuff. The market in Europe was different from the North American one: the Apple ][ was rare in here, and even the C= 64 was *at most* a distant second to Sinclair's offering. The PC's were incredibly expensive, and quite honestly no value for the money at the time. The first platform that enjoyed equal popularity in both Continents was the Amiga I think... This "PC for the masses" crap is a bit distant from reality.

  3. huh? by User+956 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It's hard to guess if Gates, the wealthiest person in the world and co-founder of a company that brought in $44 billion in revenue last year, cares.

    Well, he certainly must care, as he's obviously not doing it for the money.

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    1. Re:huh? by fishbowl · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Honorary degrees are never awarded to anyone with any likelihood of having a job interview or seeking a teaching or research job.

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  4. An honorary degree by bunbuntheminilop · · Score: 4, Funny

    doesn't count! He'll never be able to get a CS job with that!

    1. Re:An honorary degree by Dogtanian · · Score: 5, Funny

      He'll never be able to get a CS job with that! No, but he's one of the few people who might conceivably be able to meet such job requirements as "Window Vista (5 years experience)"...
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    2. Re:An honorary degree by CaptainBJones · · Score: 2, Interesting

      You say that like its funny... I got a call from some recruiter (who saw my resume online w/ vista listed) that had a job opening (for a "major national software & storage company") that required a minimum of three years managing a mixed Windows Vista, XP and Linux envrionment. When I challenged him on the vista part since it has not been out that long he said he would call his client and see if the would be willing to waive the vista requirement. The recruiter called back the next day and said his client was admimant about the three years of vista experience and more was a plus. I thanked him for the offer but declined it. I bet that company will be looking for a couple of years to find someone...

    3. Re:An honorary degree by Hognoxious · · Score: 2, Funny

      I've seen them too. At first I thought they might be a way for recruiters & HR droids to build a blacklist of known bullshit artists. Then I told myself there's no way they'd be that smart.

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  5. Not a doctorate? by Timesprout · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I though that was the usual honourary gift to the successful.

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  6. With those credentials by joeflies · · Score: 5, Funny

    now maybe he could get past the resume screeners and get a job at Google? It's good to see him do something with his life now.

    1. Re:With those credentials by Bastard+of+Subhumani · · Score: 2, Funny

      now maybe he could get past the resume screeners and get a job at Google?
      I think wikepedia suits his qualifications better.
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  7. Honorary licenses by owlman17 · · Score: 5, Funny

    In other news, Harvard University has just been granted 10,000 honorary Vista licenses and 10,000 Office 2k7 licenses...

  8. degree is done, man by pchan- · · Score: 5, Funny

    Finally his parents will get off his back to go back to school and do something with his life!

  9. Re:how good a programmer is he, really? by Paolo+DF · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I don't think so.
    Recently somewhere I read that there was a 'driving game' in some msdos distribution, and that it was awful (at best). Well, BillyG thought it was good enough to stamp his name in the credits for programming.

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  10. Re:"programming whiz"? by WaZiX · · Score: 4, Funny

    Bullshit, he wrote Clippy!

  11. Degrees are overrated... Skills are important! by gavink42 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Sure, going to college for 4 (or more) years can teach a person some good information. But the skills learned from life experience are usually much more important!

    I have no degree but take college courses (adult continuing education) that interest me. At some point in most of them, the prof will usually add a remark like: "...but of course we know that's not how it works in the real world."

    I'm not saying that they're teaching the wrong things in college, just that the average 18 year old will be learning mostly best-case theory. Most of the actual skills are learned during the early years in the workplace.

    Seems like it would be a better process to work in your desired field for a few years, then go for the degree. Or, at least participate heavily in an apprentice program. But I do realize that some career fields are not compatible with this paragraph.

  12. Yep, he earned it, I'd say. by Rob+Bos · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Love or hate the guy, he's certainly earned degree equivalency. Business Administration, most likely; they said in the article that Harvard doesn't announce which subject in advance.

    If it's computing science, then I'd probably have a few words to say.

  13. Man thats going to be dull... by Upaut · · Score: 4, Funny

    At Bently College, when we gave Jerry from "Ben and Jerry's" ice cream and honorary degree, he brought with him a truck of free ice cream. So much so that every student and proffessor willing had a freezer stuffed with the stuff afterwards... What will Gates do, give all the students copies of WIndows Vista? Thats a bit like someone dousing the students with STD infected blood...

    Now who should get an honorary Harvard degree is Hugh Heffneir, for his buisness empire... Maybe he would pass the bunnies around...

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    1. Re:Man thats going to be dull... by TooMuchToDo · · Score: 2, Funny

      How choice that you mention dousing students with STD infected blood and passing the playboy bunnies around in the same post. Me thinks you haven't thought your cunning plan all the way through =)

  14. Re:Degrees are overrated... Skills are important! by sarahbau · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Seems like it would be a better process to work in your desired field for a few years, then go for the degree. I originally dropped out of college, and worked a few jobs somewhat in my field, but when I wanted to move into anything more, I always got responses like "while your resume shows a lot of the experience we're looking for, you don't have a degree." I wouldn't even get interviews most of the time, just because I didn't have a piece of paper that said I know how to learn. It didn't matter that I had 2-3 times the experience they were looking for. So I decided to go back to school. Now that I'm more mature, and more experienced, I think I'm getting more out of school than I would have if I had stayed in the first time around.
  15. Re:Programming Whizz? by AnotherUsername · · Score: 2, Funny

    You've seen his code? I think we have a problem here...

    Gaining unauthorized access to code is a violation of the DCMA. Please turn yourself in to your local police station and await charges there. I believe the RIAA wants in on this one, too.

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  16. Re:Good for him by delirium+of+disorder · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Half of the people haven't even been charged with a crime in a competent court let alone convicted.

    It's nice that you assume that the Administration is innocent until proven guilty. I just wish they would return the favor and practice due process with their victims instead of engaging in rendition, torture, indefinite detention, disappearances, and etc all before any legal trial. I'd rather live in a republic than a junta.

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  17. Nose-in-the-air academic snoots... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    As a drop-out-done-good myself (probably doing better than anyone I ever went to school with as well as the teachers and administrators), I would probably react to an honorary degree with a big fuck you. Like someone who stuck it out on their own and made something great for themselves in the world inevitably need some stamp of approval from a bunch of nose-in-the-air academic snoots? <rant>
    Let's not forget that while Bill Gates is a shining example to college dropouts everywhere, he still did not get to where he is today by his wits and ruthless business strategies alone. He also had to stand on the shoulders of the engineers and programmers that wrote Windows, MS Office, etc. and most of those people were precisely the type of nose-in-the-air snoots with a college degree who didn't follow his example and drop out. Now you can probably defend your self by pointing to the quality of Windows, MS Office and other Microsoft products, which is perceived to be rather low in some quarters and argue that Bill hasn't been well served by those programmers and engineers anyway. I'd say that any shortcomings in Microsoft products are probably more the fault of Microsoft's management and it's history of practicing an approach to development and product testing schedules where marketing issues outweigh quality and proper development practices (i.e. Just develop it really fast... And who needs thorough software testing anyway?? It burns up to much time and drives up costs.) than they are the fault of the programmers and engineers who have to abide by them. I can remember what Windows 3.x and 98 used to be like, I can see how much of an improvement Windows XP and Vista are today. Neither is perfect mind you, my chief complaints with Windows 98 for example used to be: stability, lousy security and a UI that almost drove me insane with useless questions and endless 'Apply' buttons followed by far to many obligatory reboots. Microsoft has now more or less tackled the stability issue, they seem to be getting mildly serious about security but their UI still sucks although there are fewer reboots these days which is a plus. So Micosoft's management has learned quite a few painful lessons about the importance of professionalism and discipline in software development over the years since Windows 3.x and 98 came out, they have learned it the hard way and they seem to be learning mostly by falling on their faces.
    </rant>
  18. What it also says by Swift2001 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    "We notice you've made a lot of money and are therefore wise. We also notice you're not getting any younger, and you're giving away money. If you see anything you'd like to endow, please be in touch."

  19. Re:Degrees are overrated... Skills are important! by drsquare · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Today, family and friends ask me to not mention any of this to their kids finishing high school/starting college.
    That's because nearly all dropouts end up working deadend menial jobs their entire lives.

    It's not the dot-com era anymore, companies aren't going to hire 17 year old dropouts as sysadmins. Your case was a complete one off, you may as well advise people to buy lottery tickets for a living.
  20. Bill should get a real degree in philospophy... by cute-boy · · Score: 3, Funny



    Then maybe he'd have a better understanding of Ethics.

    -R

  21. Thanks Bill for the nice building by Framboise · · Score: 4, Interesting

    From this page everything becomes limpid: http://www.siel.harvard.edu/2003/about/tour/classr ooms/maxw.jsp : "The Maxwell Dworkin building was built with funds donated by Microsoft Chairman William H. Gates III and Microsoft President Steven A. Ballmer, both members of the Class of 1977, in memory of their mothers, Mary Maxwell Gates and Beatrice Dworkin Ballmer. Maxwell Dworkin building opened in 1999 and, with its extensive office and laboratory space, will allow Harvard to double the size of its computer science faculty over the next several years."

  22. This is gonna ruin his SPAM joke. by wirelessbuzzers · · Score: 3, Funny
    Bill gates, in a speech about fighting SPAM:

    An important thing about SPAM, if you're trying to filter it out, is that it's usually poorly targeted.
    (Slide of Bill Gates' inbox comes up, showing "Ref1nance your morgage!").

    However, sometimes they hit just by random chance.
    (Next message in inbox is about "U.N.I.V.E.R.S.I.T.Y.D.I.P.L.O.M.A.S").
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  23. Honorary Degrees Outside Commencement by RWarrior(fobw) · · Score: 2, Insightful
    Now if you really want to be somebody, get an honorary degree from Harvard outside of normal commencement exercises. You join this list of luminaries (plus a few others nobody born after World War II has heard of):
    • George Washington
    • Marquis de Lafyette
    • James Monroe
    • Andrew Jackson
    • Winston Churchill
    • Nelson Mandela
    That's real company.
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  24. Re:Degrees are overrated... Skills are important! by tomstdenis · · Score: 4, Insightful

    What skills are involved in admining boxes?

    Things I learned in college

    1. algebra
    2. calculus
    3. data structures
    4. algorithms [sorting, searching, etc]
    5. compiler theory
    6. numerical analysis
    7. and a host of practical courses, etc.

    And what do I do for a living? Software developer in the field of cryptography. So I need the math, algorithms, etc, etc. Yeah, granted I too taught myself a lot of my skills [like crypto], but to say college was a total waste because I had to sit through a "intro to C" class is ignorant.

    Maybe if you had a job that required talent you'd be talking differently. I'm sorry, but setting up servers, changing network settings, etc, isn't exactly a skilled labour. I mean it's a job, but don't pretend you're some tech god because you can make Apache start and host a page.

    Sorry for knocking you off your high horse, but you're advice is ignorant and misleading.

    Tom

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  25. Re:how good a programmer is he, really? by lord_mike · · Score: 2, Informative

    Well, he and Allen wrote BASIC for the MITS Altair 8800 by scratch on an emulator and cross-assembler with no documentation to go by.

    But, from what I understand, Gates was the Steve Jobs of Microsoft, while Paul Allen was the Steve Wozniak. Gates took care of the business and marketing, mostly, while Paul did most of the coding.

    Thanks,

    Mike

  26. Woz on the other hand.. by clickclickdrone · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Went back to collage under a pseudonym and got his own damned degree.

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    1. Re:Woz on the other hand.. by bkr1_2k · · Score: 2, Funny

      "Went back to collage under a pseudonym and got his own damned degree."

      Yeah, but a degree in Photoshop only takes you so far.

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  27. Re:Most dishonorable honorary unaccredited degree by Fnkmaster · · Score: 2, Informative

    That's definitely not true. Not sure where this sort of thing comes from.

  28. talk about PR stunt by DaMattster · · Score: 2, Insightful

    These honorary degrees are nothing but another PR stunt. Hey, maybe this is troll material, but having Bill Gates as a potential wealthy donor on your side never hurt anyone. Give him the honorary degree, make him feel very good, and donations, donations, donations. Had Bill Gates not risen to become the chairman of Microsoft, Harvard would have paid him no more mind than a fly on the wall. As other slashdotters have pointed out, Steve Wozniak went back to college and earned his degree.

  29. Also in the same story... by BillGatesLoveChild · · Score: 4, Funny

    "At the same ceremony Harvard honored Steve Balmer's Contributions by giving him a Chair."

  30. Re:"programming whiz"? by westlake · · Score: 4, Informative
    Hardly. He was just the whiny wannabe PHB who wanted to get paid. Allen did all the work originally; the rest was ripped from Gary Kildall

    Gates began programming at age thirteen, at fourteen, he was clearing $20,000 a year at this game. In 1973 he co-authored and published a paper a paper on algorithms with computer scientist Christos Papadimitriou. Bill Gates That is moving damn fast and damn far for a "whiny wannabee."

    Microscoft was founded in 1975. In Japan in 1978.

    Microsoft was dominant in programming languages for the microcomputer in 1980 and not an unknown quantity to IBM. Gates promised to deliver a serviceable, low-cost, OS in time for the scheduled launch of the PC. Nothing more. But these were the words IBM needed to hear---and they weren't coming from Kildall.

    You snooze, you lose.

  31. Non sequitur? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    But the programming whiz who once dropped out of Harvard will likely feel some sense of satisfaction.
    Good for him, whoever he is. But what does that have to do with Bill Gates?
  32. not as bad as giving Shrub an honorary degree, but by quixote9 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I am not happy. That's my alma mater. (Well, not so alma, and not so mater either, if you get right down to it.) I'm glad that's not my graduation year. Imagine having to sit there and listen to this guy gas on about the value of hard work while he's kneecapping as many companies as he can get at, pushing for as many cheap H1-B workers as it'll take to put those nice little Harvard grads right out of a job, and generally just being Bill Gates.

    (I'll admit the Gates Foundation does good philanthropic work, but for that I credit his wife. I never heard of him doing that stuff before he got married.)

  33. Industry experience harder to substantiate by Serpentegena · · Score: 3, Interesting

    The other day my bf B. was telling me about a low-level tech candidate he had interviewed for some support work in his department. The guy had a great-looking resume that consisted mainly of "in-the-industry" experience. He "implemented" this, "organized" that...B. asked him about 20 questions in all. Mix-n-match. From very basic, to very complex issues, and no theoretical, textbook stuff. You had to be there to fix it. It was appropriate, given that this dude ws claiming most of his qualifications from field experience.

    He managed to answer from 20, oh, about one question. He got stumped on 19 other problems that he was supposed to be at least familiar with. His resume was a hoax. The "implementation" entries apparently meant that he carried PCs around for some project. No, really.

    It's hard to properly qualify this type of candidate. This is how sometimes morons get hired into companies, and end up being a drain of resources and a problem waiting to happen, that most often their peers or boss will have to fix. Morons get stuck into jobs in the next cube beside people like you and me and they entail an ugly and exhausting cycle of damage control. All this to say, a college degree will at least indicate that the candidate is not a bum-off-the-street building a CV on fabrications, trickery and subterfuge. Saves time for most employers IMO. And if the person has proved that they can learn in school, they can likely learn and train to do well on the job.

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  34. Re:No Respect for the League of Ivy Gentlemen by Hognoxious · · Score: 2, Funny

    Honorary degree's for people worthless in their field.
    Do you have one in punctuation?
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  35. Programming whiz? by seandiggity · · Score: 3, Insightful

    "Programming whiz"? I've heard others say this also, but what exactly was Billy boy so good at (besides sending nasty letters to early innovators)?
     
    I'm under the impression that he made his mark by announcing vaporware and then coming up with something quick (primarily using someone else's work), before showing it off to potential buyers (e.g. QDOS, Altair BASIC interpreter).

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  36. He is NOT a dropout; he is on a leave of absence! by hajo · · Score: 2, Informative

    Harvard does NOT consider one a dropout if you have passing grades (Which he did; he did quite well actually). I'm in the same boat. When you have passing grades and you leave you are officially on a leave of absence. (I guess they can't fathom that anyone with passing grades would ever drop out of their venerable institution)
              Oh and on all the comments about him being a lousy coder: I call bullshit on that. I have worked on PDP11's, CPM machines etc... Virtually non-existent documentation, cosing in assembly, extreme memory constraints etc... This is the guy who rewrote a basic interpreter on the plane to his customer using paper and pen....
              You might not like the guy (I wonder why, I've never met him so I'm fairly neutral on the whole thing; Also how many people do you know giving billions of dollars to charity?). but one does not become that wealthy by being an idiot!

    Hajo

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  37. Tough time to be a recent grad by jjohn · · Score: 3, Funny

    I hope Mr. Gates understands that life is difficult for recent graduates. His first job post-degree will likely be an entry-level position without glamour or sufficient compensation. The dog-eat-dog world of corporate America isn't for everyone. Perhaps he won't get too put off by the whole thing.

  38. Re:He is NOT a dropout; he is on a leave of absenc by xenocide2 · · Score: 2, Funny

    If Gates is such a great coder, he should release the source to prove it!

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