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Top 10 Firefox Extensions to Avoid

jcatcw writes "First there were the 20 must-have Firefox Extension and ensuing Slashdot discussion. Now Computerworld has the top 10 to avoid. For example, NoScript, which does make Firefox safer, but isn't worth the hassle, Or, VideoDownloader for slow downloads, when it works at all. Then there's Greasemonkey — on both lists."

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  1. Missing from the list by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    GoToGoatse - The extension takes you to that famous page everytime you click a link.

    I'm still not sure why anyone would install it though.

    1. Re:Missing from the list by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      What's a goatse?

    2. Re:Missing from the list by iminplaya · · Score: 5, Funny

      Probably about the same thing you and I do, but possibly in black and white.

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    3. Re:Missing from the list by jimicus · · Score: 5, Informative

      This has to be the first time in history a link to goatse could reasonably be modded +5 Informative. It won't, of course - it'll be modded -5, Troll.

      But since you ask:

      http://www.goatse.cz/

    4. Re:Missing from the list by ShieldW0lf · · Score: 5, Insightful

      That's funny as hell.

      #1 Fasterfox: Don't use it, it hammers webservers! There are a lot of links on the page that you are NEVER going to click on, mostly ads. This prefetches all those ads from the adservers webserver, but you're not looking at them! Not cool!

      #2 NoScript: Don't use it, it's annoying. Plus, it screws up important scripts. For example, the article has these scripts:

      function popup( ...
      function popup_noscroll( ...
      function switchPage( ... // this ord is used for Double Click Integration
      ord=Math.random()*10000000000000000;

      Do you really want to have to deal with the trouble?

      #3 AdBlock: Do you think we do this to provide you with lame lists? We don't. We do this to make you watch ads. And you have to watch them! Didn't you get that under #2? You're breaking the social contract, you bastard!

      What a joke.

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    5. Re:Missing from the list by elrous0 · · Score: 5, Funny

      It's a /.er's way of saying "Welcome."

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    6. Re:Missing from the list by Mattintosh · · Score: 4, Informative

      I went ahead and tested it with my fingers poised and ready on ctrl-w, just in case...

      Damn good thing, too. It's back. Beware.

    7. Re:Missing from the list by Bretai · · Score: 4, Informative

      gives me an idea for another extension which stitches these kinds of articles together

      Firefox repagination: http://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/2099

      Of course, once you do that, it becomes even more obvious that the content to garbage ratio on that site is well below 50%, but at least you don't have to click and wait at each break.

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    8. Re:Missing from the list by Bretai · · Score: 5, Informative

      You're breaking the social contract, you bastard!

      So, would it be wrong to show people the whole list, allowing many people to ignore their ad-laden web page altogether?

      Fasterfox
      NoScript
      Adblock Plus
      PDF Download
      VideoDownloader
      Greasemonkey
      ScribeFire
      TrackMeNot
      Tabbrowser Preferences
      Tabbrowser Extensions
      FormSpy

      Hmmm. It doesn't feel wrong.

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    9. Re:Missing from the list by lowrydr310 · · Score: 4, Informative
      From TFA:

      For some reason, paranoia seems to be cool among Web geeks, but for the most part, it is totally unwarranted unless you're sending and receiving sensitive data.

      I'm not using Noscript because I'm paranoid. I ran into many sites that used Javascript to float ads over the entire page. Noscript puts me in control of the content I wish to view.

  2. Sorry but the list is BS by A+beautiful+mind · · Score: 5, Insightful

    For example, NoScript, which does make Firefox safer, but isn't worth the hassle Says who?
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    1. Re:Sorry but the list is BS by Gr8Apes · · Score: 5, Insightful

      No kidding. This article should be renamed:

      What users need to do to maximize our cashflow.

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    2. Re:Sorry but the list is BS by voice_of_all_reason · · Score: 5, Insightful

      It derides fasterfox for wasting bandwidth (a genuine concern), videodownloader on spurious speed/usage claims, and adblock specifically by saying "where would the web be if everyone blocked ads."

      This news source is not objective and is, therefore, made of Fail.

    3. Re:Sorry but the list is BS by fraudrogic · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Adblock and Adblock Plus
      Obviously, we have some bias when it comes to ad-blocking extensions.......But if everyone blocked ads, how would sites such as ours continue to offer content free of charge?


      You know, I can give them the same answer I would for a dvr skipping commercials: Because I can and I will, that's why I use Adblock Plus. Its fantastic and does it's job. I despise commercials and ads. I'm sorry it creates revenue for you but that's not my problem. Are they really asking us to deliberately look at ads just for their financial benefit? You either need to be witty/interesting/funny or trick me into seeing your ad, you don't get my eyeballs that easily. I would like to seek products that I want and that's the point in which I would like relevant products to come and seek me. Not randomly. If ads work and create revenue, great. But don't tell us to allow personal annoyances for your financieal gain.
      As for their content being "free" because of ads. Well, if they made me register and pay for their content, what are the chances I would (hint: 0%). So what we end up with is this technical cat and mouse game. Hopefully consumers win and we don't end up in the universe of Minority Report.

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    4. Re:Sorry but the list is BS by walt-sjc · · Score: 5, Interesting

      What pushed me to adblock isn't ads, it's ANNOYING ads. It's ads that make noise, that flash, that move around the screen, that pop up, etc. Regular simple ads were not annoying to me. Now all content providers suffer because of the behavior of some advertisers.

      That said, I do pay for some premium content, such as the Wall Street Journal, and a couple other work related (and work paid for) news sites. Unfortunately, we don't have a viable micro-payment system yet, so when you hit a site that you would pay 5 - 10 cents to read an article, you can't.

    5. Re:Sorry but the list is BS by deanoaz · · Score: 5, Insightful

      If the web content disappears because I don't see the ads, then I'll happily live without the content. If my favorite TV shows go off the air because I skip most of the ads when I watch, I'll watch something else instead. If every TV show goes off the air, I'll read more books.

      What I won't do is expose myself to more advertising than I have to.

      "Reasonable people adapt themselves to the world. Unreasonable people attempt to adapt the world to themselves. All progress, therefore, depends on unreasonable people." - George Bernard Shaw

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    6. Re:Sorry but the list is BS by Andy+Dodd · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I think that's why Google has been so successful with their ad system.

      The targeting is one thing, but far more important is that Google's ads tend to be far less intrusive (and thus far less likely to get added to a user's blocklist).

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    7. Re:Sorry but the list is BS by misleb · · Score: 4, Insightful
      I think he's saying that most sites simply wouldn't get any revenue because at least he (and probably myself) would neither pay for the content (in most cases) nor suffer ads. I think he's just being honest. Fact is that a lot of sites just wouldn't exist without ad support. But then, so what? That isn't his (or my) problem beyond there being a smaller number of sites available to browse. There was an internet before advertising was ubiquitous, ya know. Even today, plenty of sites manage to get by without advertising OR charging for content.

      Finally, what's the "winning" scenario here - consumers (if they can be called that) - getting everything for free?


      Winning is businesses finding better ways to make money than by annoying the general user. And yes, I find any and all ads annoying. I don't care if they are relevent or targetted or whatever. If I want to see/here about a company, I will seek them out. If there is any "legitimate"
      form of advertising, it is in the form of yellowpages-like directories or catalogs. Beyond that, I don't want to see it or here it. And quite frankly, I don't give a crap how it affects business.

      -matthew
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    8. Re:Sorry but the list is BS by misleb · · Score: 5, Interesting

      I disagree, and would argue that the web started with DARPA.


      But there was a time when the vast majority of content was essentially ad free. Much of it even useful information. Heck, even today I visit plenty of sites that have no ads nor do charge for content. Although maybe that has changed in the last couple years. Adblock Plus is just so effective, I'm often shocked if for some reason I have to browse without it. Like I am actually overwhelmed. You just don't realize how in prevelent advertising is until you've shielded youself from it for a while. Mass ad blocking is like a drug. A sweet, sweet drug that I never want to come off. ;-)

      -matthew
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    9. Re:Sorry but the list is BS by rjshields · · Score: 3, Funny

      However, you must concede that entrepreneurial instinct (which often involves "pushing" information or products at people when they don't really need or want them) has done a lot to forward technological advances.
      Absolutely. Where would we be without web page ads or spam? The world needs more Scott Richters!!1
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    10. Re:Sorry but the list is BS by Fordiman · · Score: 4, Informative

      Yeah. I was gonna say, Adblock at number 3 the avoid? Not if you're an end-user.

      Though, I gotta say, videodownloader is overrated, especially if you're only after YouTube videos. The below link will work more quickly:

      javascript:(function(){var x = document.createElement('iframe'); x.style.width='1px'; x.style.height='1px'; document.body.appendChild(x); x.src='http://www.youtube.com/get_video?video_id=' + window.location.toString().match(/v=([^\&]*)/)[1]+ '&t='+ document.body.innerHTML.match(/\&t=([^\&]*)/)[1]; })();

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    11. Re:Sorry but the list is BS by ergean · · Score: 5, Funny

      What would be a pertinent ad for an article with Firefox? ... ...
      RAM!

    12. Re:Sorry but the list is BS by ConceptJunkie · · Score: 3, Insightful

      "where would the web be if everyone blocked ads."

      The fact of the matter is that's not the user's problem now is it?

      Don't whine to me if your business model doesn't work because it annoys people. That's the free market, baby. Adapt or die.

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    13. Re:Sorry but the list is BS by Danse · · Score: 3, Insightful

      However, you must concede that entrepreneurial instinct (which often involves "pushing" information or products at people when they don't really need or want them) has done a lot to forward technological advances.

      While ads have helped the web become what it is today, I can't help but think that maybe if there weren't so many sites out there trying to get hits for ad purposes, the web might be a better place. Even if that means I have to pay for subscriptions to sites with content that I want, I think I might like that web better. We'd still have a lot of low-cost hosting solutions out there, and we'd still have people posting whatever they want. There just probably wouldn't be so much auto-generated garbage out there to sift through in order to see the interesting stuff. Then again, I've thought about this for all of about 3 minutes now, so I could be completely wrong.
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    14. Re:Sorry but the list is BS by BalanceOfJudgement · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Like I am actually overwhelmed. You just don't realize how in prevelent advertising is until you've shielded youself from it for a while. Mass ad blocking is like a drug.

      You just said something else, although you didn't realize it:

      That mass advertising itself is also like a drug. I'm constantly amazed when I hear people talk about their experiences when they don't watch TV or go on the internet for awhile.. it's like they see the world completely differently, and in fact, they do: without the constant drum of advertising against their skulls, they start to see a world NOT based entirely on crass consumerism, a world where there IS meaning and simply joy in things like going to a picnic or talking to your family or reading a book on a gentle afternoon.

      We've become so conditioned to be the perfect consumers that we're actually surprised when we step out of that mold. I never watch or listen to ads anymore, and advertisers be damned: I'll buy your product when and if I need it, and only then will I go looking for it. You do not need to spend every waking moment of my life telling me I am a worthless piece of shit because I don't have the latest gadget or waving things in my face that you KNOW I'm going to have to use credit to buy.

      Fuck you, all of you. I am a human being, not a machine you can control.
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    15. Re:Sorry but the list is BS by ConceptJunkie · · Score: 3, Informative

      The more I think about it, the more this article is really awful. It should be titled, "10 Firefox Extensions I Want to Avoid Despite not Having Good Reasons to Do So", or "10 Firefox Extensions that Cripple Our Site And We Are Too Lazy To Do Anything About It", or, given the tone of it "If You Know More About the Web Than I Do, You're A Hopeless Geek, Get A Life".

      For most of the extensions he gives several reasons _to use it_ and then some really lame excuse like "but I don't like it" or "that's too much hassle for me", or "you're just paranoid", the latter being a particularly egregious example of stupidity given the millions of machines that are botnetted. Those so-called "too paranoid" people will be the only ones left surfing when the next big virus/worm/trojan takes down half the 'net.

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  3. Hey, I like NoScript by jfengel · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I use NoScript not for security but because it cuts out one more way that web sites can annoy me, with their javascripted pop-up ads.

    Yeah, it takes a moment to re-enable JavaScript for sites which insist on using it for navigation (which is itself annoying, but sometimes a site has content I want.) But it's less than the aggravation of having the text I'm trying to read covered with a pop-up layer.

    I don't mind polite advertising, but anything that moves (Java, Flash, and most recently Javascript) is going to be worthless unless I absolutely require it.

    1. Re:Hey, I like NoScript by Hatta · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Exactly, you only have to whitelist a site once. And it takes all of 2 seconds. Annoying scripts however, will fuck with you every time you visit a site. It's not long until the benefits manifest. And since we tend to spend most of our time on sites we've been before, it's really pretty rare that I have to whitelist anything.

      In a perfect world, we wouldn't have to deal with client side scripting at all. It's inconvenient, dangerous, and downright impolite. If you want me to see your page, do your processing on YOUR computer. Until then, noscript will have to do.

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    2. Re:Hey, I like NoScript by Saint+Aardvark · · Score: 5, Informative

      One more "me, too". I hate dancing baloney on a web page, and doubly so when it's for useless, distracting, intrusive advertising. Not to mention all the stupid security problems that come up when you just blindly trust any code to run in your web browser.

      For a handful of sites, JavaScript is worth turning on; for everything else, there's NoScript.

    3. Re:Hey, I like NoScript by Mr2cents · · Score: 4, Insightful
      FTA:

      For some reason, paranoia seems to be cool among Web geeks [...] Can you be paying attention to security and not be paranoid at the same time?
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    4. Re:Hey, I like NoScript by flynt · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I hate dancing baloney on a web page, and doubly so when it's for useless, distracting, intrusive advertising.

      Is there any other kind of dancing baloney?

    5. Re:Hey, I like NoScript by Red+Flayer · · Score: 4, Informative

      I hate dancing baloney on a web page, and doubly so when it's for useless, distracting, intrusive advertising.
      Is there any other kind of dancing baloney?
      Umm, dancing baloney not on a web page?
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    6. Re:Hey, I like NoScript by Red+Flayer · · Score: 4, Informative

      Wow. My comment is neither interesting nor informative, AFAICT. Funny, maybe, since the PP was referring to the "useless, distracting, intrusive advertising" aspects of the dancing baloney... but I guess this goes to show that one man's funny is another man's informative/interesting.

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  4. Sure by utlemming · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Wow, that was the most biased article that I have read in a long time. The summary, for those that didn't RTFA, they pretty much say avoid all the things that make a web master's life difficult; it was from a website perspective and not from the user. Anyhow, it is not worth the read and definitely is not news.

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  5. Article translation by kpainter · · Score: 3, Informative

    Number one extension to use: IE7 God, what a lot of drivel.

    1. Re:Article translation by gEvil+(beta) · · Score: 4, Funny

      Number one extension to use: IE7 God, what a lot of drivel.

      Where can I find this "IE7 God" extension?

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    2. Re:Article translation by hotdiggitydawg · · Score: 3, Funny

      Easy. Type "about:iddqd" in your addressbar.

  6. here's the tell... by Naurgrim · · Score: 5, Insightful

    They're just pissed that NoScript and AdBlock knock down their revenue stream.

    "...while continuing to support the sites we love by allowing most ads to appear."

    Bzzt - sorry. I chose to not see ads.

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  7. As pointless as the last article by WarwickRyan · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Adblock is bad because it makes their site readable?

    NoScript bad because it stops nasty/naughty javascript?

    PDF download bad because it stops embedded PDFs breaking your system (but also stops hacked tracking links from working)?

    TrackMeNot because it stops you being tracked and wastes bandwidth?

    I'd suggest the only waste of bandwidth their is their site!

    1. Re:As pointless as the last article by WarwickRyan · · Score: 3, Insightful

      You always need to code to the lowest common denominator, which'll be a browser without Javascript. At the very least popup a message about it.

      As for a site broken by Adblock: how about not using horribly intrusive ads? They don't work except maybe with the moron element.

    2. Re:As pointless as the last article by Zebai · · Score: 3, Informative

      They really pushed it by mentioning adblock, but they totally lost their credibility when they mentioned PDF download, the only people who will EVER want to view a PDF in browser, are those who don't know there are other options.

      And to top it off, when you didn't think site could lose any more karma, i see a link to another article

      http://www.computerworld.com/blogs/node/4251 Why Firefox has lost its mojo

      This article states that IE has bridged the gap in features and quality because a few copycat features they've implemented. So, computer world is on the do not visit these idiots list. I admit, i dont like firefox 2.0 as much as 1.5, but the only reason for that is I get a nasty memory leak when viewing tags that have way to much flash or js (fault of the website as much as firefox).

    3. Re:As pointless as the last article by rootofevil · · Score: 3, Insightful

      You always need to code to the lowest common denominator, which'll be a browser without Javascript. At the very least popup a message about it. agreed. ajax is a feature not a requirement. my smartphone doesnt do ajax, and more and more people are getting them, so building even reduced functionality should be a priority.

      As for a site broken by Adblock: how about not using horribly intrusive ads? They don't work except maybe with the moron element. it would be useful to note that if your target demographic is the moron element, you arent losing anything by breaking functionality to people who have adblock installed. additionally, if you do have adblock installed then why are you going to a website targeted at the moron element?
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    4. Re:As pointless as the last article by turnipsatemybaby · · Score: 3, Funny

      Oops! that reminds me... I rebuilt my system and forgot to reinstall the addons.

      *goes to the article to find out what add-ons to download*.

    5. Re:As pointless as the last article by AJWM · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Run a website of your own, see how many people call or email with problems that are caused by noscript and adblock

      I run a bunch, and nobody complains because I don't do client side scripts or run other people's ads.

      because it actually enhances the browsing experience.

      I go to websites for information, not a "browsing experience". What enhances my browsing experience is delivering the information I'm looking for without a lot of singing and dancing. If I'm looking for entertainment, again it'll be the specific content (eg video clip) I'm looking for, not all singing all dancing all popup crap.

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  8. Any "Performance" tweaks as well by Pope · · Score: 4, Informative

    Avoid any so-called "performance" tweaks that do nothing but open a few dozen connections to every web server you visit. It's fucking pointless and does nothing but piss off server admins. Cut your max connections down and make sure pipelining is on to get real, actual performance increases.

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  9. Adblock and Adblock Plus?!?! by Skadet · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Adblock and Adblock Plus

    Obviously, we have some bias when it comes to ad-blocking extensions, as Computerworld is an ad-supported site. We also understand that these are very popular extensions. But if everyone blocked ads, how would sites such as ours continue to offer content free of charge?
    Who says free content at the price of advertising is a good thing? Take a good look at TFA. Do you SEE those ads? I'm on page two, which weighs in at 136kb. That's for what, two paragraphs of text? And don't forget -- gotta navigate all 4 pages for maximum impressions!

    Really, sites like Slashdot, Google, etc. have it right. Minimally intrusive ads with quality content == a good experience for most users.
    1. Re:Adblock and Adblock Plus?!?! by StormReaver · · Score: 4, Insightful

      "And don't forget -- gotta navigate all 4 pages for maximum impressions!"

      You hit on one of my pet peeves -- web sites that break a single article into multiple pages. I rarely go beyond the first page, and I only read the first page of this self-serving article. If I knew ahead of time that this was one of those articles, I would have skipped it entirely. Maybe a [WARNING: multiple pages] heads-up is warranted on future Slashdot postings.

    2. Re:Adblock and Adblock Plus?!?! by p0tat03 · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Part of the problem is that websites have zero clue what they're doing when they're laying out the page. They put the ads in the largest, most obtrusive places in an attempt to gain eye-time, but all it does is piss off the user.

      Look at a print magazine. Most of them have remarkably good layout - ads are clearly ads, and text flows around the ads naturally. The site in TFA has horrifying ads that break the flow of the article and send your mind into unnatural gymnastics trying to follow along.

      Ads and web content can coexist peacefully, but not until webmasters realize that layout is not just a 5-minute job in Dreamweaver, but is rather a full-time job that requires real qualifications and real training.

  10. That article sucked by 14erCleaner · · Score: 4, Funny

    ...but that's probably because my NoScript and AdBlock settings impaired my viewing experience.

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  11. A little Bias by Herkum01 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I also love how they put in 'Adblock' and 'Adblock Plus'. They say, well we don't like it being an advertising web site, but trust us, it is not very good.

    I thought 'Adblock' was a great extension and very effective.

    I also like 'Noscript', it is simple to prevent sites that insist that they and every site they connect to should be allowed to run javascript on your browser. 'Noscript' allows me to specify only the sites, like the one I am browsing, to actually run Javascript instead of every ad aggregator that wants information on you.

  12. NoScript is in fact worth the hassle by frdmfghtr · · Score: 3, Insightful
    FTA:

    Does NoScript make Firefox safer? Sure. Is it worth the hassle? No. For some reason, paranoia seems to be cool among Web geeks, but for the most part, it is totally unwarranted unless you're sending and receiving sensitive data. Most typical Web surfers who install this extension remove it after the novelty wears off.

    Paranoia is not "cool among Web geeks,", it's an unfortunate necessity when wandering the jungle that is the World Wide Web. How many times do we hear about exploits using JavaScript? Too often, in my mind's eye. If a particular site that you trust needs JavaScript to run, then whitelist it, even if just temporarily, with two mouse clicks.

    I don't call it "paranoid," I call it "due caution" and it is, in fact, worth the minor hassle.
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  13. #3 = Adblock? No bias there by Excelcia · · Score: 5, Insightful

    But if everyone blocked ads, how would sites such as ours continue to offer content free of charge?
    If everyone who didn't want to see ads blocked them, then the ads that were seen would have more value because they would be seen by people who wanted to see them. Pushing an ad on someone who doesn't want to see it is, what, going to suddenly make that person buy something?

    I freely admit I block every ad I can. If I'm going to buy something, I'll actively go looking for it. I resent people telling me that I'm damaging them by not displaying their ads on my PC. Your ads are valueless when displayed on my PC anyway, so why should I expose myself to them? The ad industry has not endeared itself to the internet community. They have only themselves to blame for people wanting to block them.
  14. Fasterfox by SevenHands · · Score: 5, Insightful

    How about a plugin that fetches all subsequent pages of articles and condenses into a single webpage so a user doesn't have to follow five page links to read the whole article.

    1. Re:Fasterfox by Dirtside · · Score: 3, Informative

      They do have one -- click on "Print this story" and it gives you a single page with the entire article... unfortunately, it uses a popup to do so ;)

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  15. Printer friendly link by stormpunk · · Score: 5, Informative

    I'll be happy when slashdot submissions list the allononepage version of articles.
    http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?com mand=printArticleBasic&articleId=9015599

  16. Worst... List... Evar! by pestie · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Seriously. I don't often cry "worst evar!" but this qualifies. I'm going to be installing that PDF-downloader extension just as soon as I'm done mocking this list for sucking so hard. And while I do agree that NoScript just breaks too many sites (and it's only going to get worse as the web gets all AJAXy and buzzword-compliant), I don't think I'd bother with the web without tools like Adblock Plus. What can I say - I'm sensitive to noise, both visual and audio. I find it harder than most people to filter out extraneous crap from my sensory input. Maybe it's because I grew up muting the TV audio during commericals (it got to be reflexive in our family) but advertising grates on my nerves like nobody's business. I'll tolerate Google-style text ads, but I find anything with graphics distracting and want it gone.

    And yeah, some of it is my significant anti-consumerism bias, too. I block ads on principle, as I consider them an ever-increasing intrusion into my life. Yes, people have the right to create and use advertising, but I have the same right to use any legal means to keep them away from me. And for those who ask, as this article did, "what would happen to all the great ad-supported sites if everyone used these tools," well, they'd be replaced by something else - subscription-driven services, smaller clusters of free services, etc. I love the web as much as the next guy, but it's not like I'd be lost if the entire web went dark tomorrow. I have other interests. But that's not going to happen anyway.

  17. The web with NoScript is so much better! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative
    Sure, I miss some content, but normally NoScript is saving me so much time getting there and missing junk adds, flash garbage etc.etc. that the benefit outweighs the losses hundreds of times over.

    constantly having to whitelist sites so that scripts can execute in order


    I admit I don't use myspace / facebook and things that go boing (though I guess that even if I did, whitelisting two sites one time wouldn't really stress me out) but I have to say that you are sadly deluded if you think that I keep whitelisting your site to see the stupid scripts on it. Most of the time, if it doesn't work straight up, then it's a good sign that the content wasn't worth it. You learn this quickly since on the first day you use noscrpt you do try whitelisting, but soon you realise you aren't really seeing anything worthwhile.

    Simple message: if you are designing a site; make sure it works fine without the scripts. Otherwise you will lose viewers who just don't care enough.
    1. Re:The web with NoScript is so much better! by walt-sjc · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Worse, there are some sites that are just HORRIBLY designed, and use javascript for no real reason at all, and in many / most cases CSS would work BETTER.

      Then there is all the statistics / tracking javascript which noscript does a wonderful job getting rid of.

  18. VideoDownloader *is* extremely useful by cos(x) · · Score: 5, Informative

    For those who cannot (*BSD, non-i386 Linux) or do not want to run Flash, VideoDownloader is pretty much the only way to watch YouTube videos. That, and sometimes it actually is great to fetch a video from YouTube for offline viewing, even if you have Flash installed. Sure, the server that the extension uses may go down sometimes, but so what? Just wait a couple of seconds and try again.

  19. Ad block and ad block plus... by SCHecklerX · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Computerworld, you get no sympathy from me for being an ad-supported site.

    If ads had continued to be a small banner at the top or bottom of the page with NO ANIMATION, or even small ads down the sides that didn't interrupt the flow of the CONTENT (again, no animation), then guess what? I would never have seen a need to use ad blocking software.

    The fact is that advertising has gotten very intrusive and counter productive. Hell, I'd likely visit a few advertiser's sites, but now I never see them because of the way they were changed to be as intrusive as possible, hence sent to the bit bucket. WHy do advertisers believe that being as in-your-face as possible would do anything BUT piss people off about the stuff they are trying to sell?

    That decent ads (see above ... small banners, no animation) get killed too is collateral damage, and it's the advertiser's own fault that people see fit to block the crap. Many even constitute security hazards. Yeah, I'm going to allow THAT to be displayed on my browser (yes, it is MY BROWSER, and it is meant to render things as the USER sees fit...many seem to have forgotten that).

    So cry me a river. I'll stick with adblocking software. It's your own damned fault that people block your precious advertisers these days.

  20. Fasterfox by glwtta · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Correct me if I'm wrong, but Fasterfox doesn't prefetch links unless you specifically enable that option (or they are marked for prefetching, and who does that?). It doesn't matter which level you select, the indiscriminate prefetching is a separate option.

    Its main benefits are multiple connections and pipelining (oh and the timer - I love the timer). To say that you should throw the whole thing out because they don't like prefetching (which is indeed a poor idea) is just plain silly.

    Also, what's with the extremely patronizing tone of the whole article? Who made them the hall monitors of the internet?

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  21. The Real List of Extensions to avoid. by mr_3ntropy · · Score: 5, Informative

    Here is the real list of problematic extensions. I found it when trying to figure out why my FF has become so slow that I have had to go back to IE (yes, imagine how bad it must be). My tabs just remain stuck on "Loading..." with a white page and nothing happens. And the memory usage keeps climbing. Yes even with all latest versions of everything. So I set out to minimize my add-ons to the barest that I must have.

    So far I have 4 I can't live without. Adblock, IE View Lite, Firefox View, and BugmeNot. Out of these I am assuming only an "Always on" types like Adblock can cause memory + slowdown issues. The others should not hurt much right?

    The blacklist has some popular extensions like Adblock, but usually its only the older versions with problems. Tab Browser Extensions and Tab Browser Preferences particularly stand out as they are not recommended.

    Oh and the article is drivel.

  22. In a related story: by Kadin2048 · · Score: 3, Funny

    In other news ... Russian mafia releases list of 10 pieces of software to avoid. Topping the list are anti-virus and anti-spyware utilities. Details at 11.

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  23. Re:AdBlock?? by ZiZ · · Score: 3, Informative

    I'll make mention of the same thing I did last time AdblockPlus + Filterset.G came up: you might try switching to the EasyList and EasyElement subscriptions instead. I was a staunch user of Filterset.G for a long time, and only switched to Easy* because I was reinstalling, in a hurry, and EasyList came up as an option when AdblockPlus was installed, but I'm hooked now. In my experience, and experiences of others, the Easy* lists are faster and easier to maintain, plus you don't need an extra extension to manage them.

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  24. Re:NoScript sometimes breaks DHTML by Giorgio+Maone · · Score: 3, Informative

    It was a glitch in dynamic inclusion of external scripts through the document.write("<script...></script>") hack used by some AJAX libraries (e.g. Scriptacolous on Digg). This was an rare problem under normal conditions, but NoScript filters used to make it appear more frequently.

    Good news is that current NoScript 1.1.4.7 Release Candidate fixes this issue once (hopefully) for ever.

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  25. Noscript..... by hendersj · · Score: 3, Interesting

    FTFA:

    Does NoScript make Firefox safer? Sure. Is it worth the hassle? No. For some reason, paranoia seems to be cool among Web geeks

    I guess they think that having your system pwned and turned into a spam-spewing zombie DoS machine of death is what really makes one cool.

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  26. [shudder] I prefer THIS informative link by Ahnteis · · Score: 5, Informative

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goatse

    At least, I think so. There's no way I'm actually clicking on your link.

  27. Re:[shudder] I prefer THIS informative link by Khaed · · Score: 3, Funny

    I right clicked, copied the location, pasted to my friend Derek.

    I'm pretty sure, judging by his reaction, that you were right not to click GP's link.

    Now if you'll excuse me I need to assume a new identity...