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Many Dead In Virginia Tech Shooting

nexuspal writes "Over 20 confirmed dead at Virginia Tech. Shooter killed some at residence hall then two hours later killed others in classrooms. Worst school shooting in US history. "

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  1. Get ready... by psykocrime · · Score: 1, Troll

    ...here come the "knee jerk" reactions, which - with Democrats in control of Congress - will almost certainly include new gun-control legislation. Legislation which - if history is any indicator - will do nothing to prevent tragedies like this, and will actually make our society more susceptible to this sort of thing, as fewer people have the means to defend themselves.

    Does anybody know if Virginia Tech has a policy against firearms on campus? If so, I hope people stop and ask: could one student, armed with a handgun, have prevented the death toll from climbing as high as it did?

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    1. Re:Get ready... by Quila · · Score: 0, Troll

      How would death rates on campus be affected in the long-term with tens of thousands of college students with ready access to large amounts of alcohol and firearms?
      Don't know, but there haven't been any murders among the general public with millions of concealed carry permits issued, and I'm sure that includes a good number of drinkers.
  2. land of the free^Wdead by Cederic · · Score: 0, Troll


    hurrah for the constitutional right to bear arms and shoot your fellow Americans.

    1. Re:land of the free^Wdead by RexRhino · · Score: 0, Troll

      hurrah for the constitutional right to bear arms and shoot your fellow Americans. And hurrah for the constitutional right to be a troll.
    2. Re:land of the free^Wdead by Cederic · · Score: 0, Troll


      I do find it curious that people are getting modded 'insightful' for suggesting that allowing everybody on the campus to carry a firearm would have prevented this incident (despite, as another poster highlighted, causing considerably more incidents, albeit of lesser individual magnitude) yet my sardonic take on the situation is deemed to be trolling.

      Guess Americans don't have a sense of humour. I know I'm laughing.

  3. Thank gun control for this by Zexarious · · Score: 0, Troll

    If there was even a few students there with concealed carry weapons and proficient in using them. None of this would of happened.

  4. Re:from the funny-not-appropriate dept. by Cederic · · Score: 0, Troll


    or actually make it funny.

    From the empty-cartridges-for-sale dept
    From the jack-thompson-wet-dream dept
    From the come-back-jon-katz dept
    From the shortage-of-engineering-graduates dept

    Doesn't black humour exist in the US?

  5. Re:Mod parent up by gad_zuki! · · Score: 1, Troll

    > vs. "guns r bad mmmkay?"

    Well, the gun-nuts here quickly seized the issue and even before the bodies are warm, are screaming "GUNS R GOOD MMMKAY?" all over this thread. Disgraceful.

  6. Re:More than 20. . . by imsabbel · · Score: 0, Troll

    Most people arent competent enough to use a VCR.
    Half of the population are dumber than the average.
    Many are assholes with an agenda, like you.

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  7. Marcus Vick? by qqaz · · Score: 0, Troll

    Don't tell me they let him back on campus again...

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  8. Re:Thoughts go the the families.. by BeansBaxter · · Score: 0, Troll

    I will. Thank you for the support.

  9. Re:I can't believe no one has said it by 0kComputer · · Score: 0, Troll

    here you stupid twat

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  10. Re:More than 20. . . by Das+Modell · · Score: 0, Troll

    It's strange that a lot of people here have arguments like "well if people had guns then they'd be killing each other every day" but nobody can actually cite cases where this has happened. There's only the assumption that most people are raging psychos who'll shoot up the place at the slightest provocation without any regard for the consequences.

  11. Re:More than 20. . . by Das+Modell · · Score: 0, Troll

    Oh, I get it. The only reason why Iraq is such a mess is because people have guns. Yeah, that must be it.

    It will be a cold day in hell before I'll see one rational or intelligent argument from the anti-gun crowd.

  12. I know Americans hate to be reminded of this by Kaitnieks · · Score: 1, Troll

    But in the distant Europe there are no shootings like this and guns are forbidden to be carried around without special permits. So no matter what logic is used by "we need more guns" activists by commenters here, it's a fact that to avoid incidents like this you need to ban guns, not allow them.

  13. Re:More than 20. . . by Viking+Coder · · Score: 1, Troll

    The *outcome* - in this case - might actually have been worse if everybody had guns... [b]ut regardless of that... it's a principle issue.

    Written like a true zealot.

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  14. Why not elsewhere? by commandobear · · Score: 0, Troll

    What I'm wondering about is why school massacres seem to be such an American phenomenon. I just looked up previous school massacres on Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/School_shootings), and a little down the page there's a little list of school massacres (I don't know how comprehensive this is), in which most of the incidents happened in the USA or Canada. The school shootings taking place in other parts of the world seem to have more of a political context (Middle East, Chechenya, etc.) than the ones happening in America. So, why does this happen so much more in the US than other parts of the world? I would think the gun laws of the USA are a a big part of it, but the answer probably is much more multifaceted than that.

  15. Re:Beyond words... by Zeinfeld · · Score: 0, Troll
    OK so two hilarious anecdotes where CCW caused the bad guys to get caught.

    Compared to 32 people murdered by a gun nut today alone.

    Fifteen years ago I had a similar argument with a gun nut. They executed him a few years ago for the murder of 168 people in the Oaklahoma City Bombing, guy called Timothy McVeigh.

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  16. Re:Thoughts go the the families.. by Zeinfeld · · Score: 0, Troll
    Indeed; what a horrible situation to be faced with. :\

    Thanks to Bush and the neo-cons the Iraqis see this level of murder every single day.

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  17. Maybe Guns Could be as Controlled as Cars or Beer? by craznar · · Score: 0, Troll

    Seems the US has something arse about.

    No beer until 21, no driving a car without a licence, no sex on TV without pixelation.

    Yes... a kid can go and anonymously buy a gun, ammo and shoot it - all within the law ...

    WTF ?

    Is the US insane ?

    I'm not talking about banning guns, just about knowing who has em... not talking about stopping criminals getting them, just talking about crazy people getting them.

    Jeez... get a clue US of A, the rest of the world is laughing at your stupidity.

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  18. Re:Why not let people buy and use nuclear weapons? by craznar · · Score: 0, Troll

    You are arguing over volume...

    A nuke - a million people
    A bomb - a thousand people
    A machine gun - a hundred people

    The constitution protects your right to bear arms, where in the constitution does it say a million is too many, but a hundred is ok ?

    My opinion is that the right to bear arms should be limited to 6 shots (or was it 2) as per the weaponry at the signing of the constitution.

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