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MS Releases New Media Player Firefox Plugin

SilentChris writes "Microsoft today released a new Media Player plugin for Firefox that resolves the problems users of the older version were experiencing. According to the company's Port 25 blog, it's backwards compatible with Windows Media Player 6.4. The plugin is for Windows XP and Vista only, but if you have to watch WMV video at least it's less likely to crash your browser."

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  1. Wow. by P2PDaemon · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Wow. I'm actually pleasantly surprised. Did anyone see this coming?

  2. mplayerplug-in by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    eh.. so what's wrnog with mplayerplug-in?

  3. Meh by Jekler · · Score: 2, Interesting

    It smacks of desperation that Microsoft tries so hard to exclude Linux from any software they release. If they don't loosen up that strangle-hold, their company is going to choke to death.

    It's sad that a company with so much money and talent is completely unwilling to adapt to the times. They're clinging to an age of computing that has long since passed. 10 years ago, web tools, platform interoperability and independence, and transparent company operations could have been classified as a trend, but those practices are now solidified.

    It would just be nice if Microsoft made even a single genuine move towards cooperation instead of their current modus operandi of "exclusion at all cost".

    1. Re:Meh by mandelbr0t · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Microsoft desperate? I wish.

      But they have decided that there are enough corporate Firefox deployments that they can't afford to lose those potential WMV viewers. Any other pressure just slides right past Microsoft; they don't pay, so they don't matter.

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    2. Re:Meh by hpavc · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Its something they can point to in court that will save them a lot more than it cost to develop it.

      Wonder who will get blamed for the arbitrary code executions in the thing, Firefox or Microsoft. Every vulnerability/bug media player has will likely point to Firefox, instantly overnight Firefox's vulnerability/bug list will jump in size.

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  4. Re:Who needs Media Player? by JohnnyBGod · · Score: 2, Interesting

    This is good news for Windows users, but actually, in Ubuntu, VLC's plugin is useless, for some reason I'm not really aware of. MPlayer's works... when it wants to.

  5. Zwha? by eudaemon · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Nothing against Microsoft, per se, but half the security of my browsing experience
    is that my Firefox has no Flash, MS, Acrobat, or Active-X plugins. If I really
    want to see content because someone has a flash-only site or WMV content, it gets
    downloaded and/or viewed on a UNIX machine. From a user account. On a machine I can afford
    to reformat at any time.

    WMV plugin? Why would I load that?

  6. Does this still store history in IE history? by LiquidCoooled · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I remember playing WMV files using proper media player ends up storing traces in Internet Explorers history list.
    Strange considering I was using firefox.

    Does the new one still have the same problem?

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  7. Re:Or the better (free, as in choice) option by fermion · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I now use VLC as a substitute for everything, even as a DVD player. All commercial players, WMP, Quicktime, Realplayer are suspect. They all have the ability to take over the computer and launch other apps, at least the browser. I know the integration can be helpful, but we are not in the 1980's. I do know how to open an application on my own.

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  8. Re:wmv files??? by blackmonday · · Score: 4, Interesting

    You know who's guilty of using crappy MS streaming media? None other than NPR.org. You have 2 choices - Windows Media or Real. How's that for crappy choices.

  9. I wonder if... by Whuffo · · Score: 5, Interesting
    Do you suppose this special version of Media Player has a benefit to Microsoft? Of course it does; why waste programmers otherwise.

    So what does Microsoft get from this - besides that ephemeral "protect WMV market share" stuff?

    How about usage data? Media Player has been sending information back to MS for years; OS version, GUID, etc. Now they can also collect data about Firefox installs. I suspect that data has value to MS - and very well may be the reason for this unexpected release.

    It's not as though Firefox users haven't been able to view WMV files, is it?

  10. Re:wmv files??? by Abalamahalamatandra · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Just do what I do - decode the Javascript to find the actual location of the Real streams (I like the quality better than the WMV streams), then use command-line mplayer to stream it out and reencode it to MP3.

    Now if Apple would just release tools or docs for creating enhanced podcast files for something other than a crappy command-line tool for OSX, I could make a rocking NPR podcast with skippable segments, but noooo...

  11. IE vs. WMP by BRUTICUS · · Score: 5, Interesting

    could this imply that MS considers Media Player more important than Internet Explorer now? I mean I couldn't really see MS providing apple with a plugin for Quicktime. Is MS getting serious about the media player war...and MP3 players?

    Zune 2.0

  12. Re:Unlike the state of Florida or parts of it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting
    I've got to say that the EULAs in today's software are getting extreme.
    From the plugin:

    You may not:
    • work around any technical limitations in the software;
    Isn't this what 90% of IT is about?

    I understand the boilerplate "you may not reverse engineer/disassemble...blah blah blah" but "work around...limitations" seems a bit over the top.

    Why do the capchas always seem pertinent? this post was "kludge"...
  13. that punishment won't be effective by r00t · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Criminals can get way more than $500 with that certificate. Criminals have been known to do identity theft on whole corporations.

    So, by the economics of it all, this is a crime that pays quite well.

  14. Re:Or the better (free, as in choice) option by hxnwix · · Score: 2, Interesting
    Right out of the gate, I have to ask why Microsoft decided that producers of DRMed content should be allowed to execute arbitrary code. I know, I know, MS would probably say something along the lines of:

    It doesn't matter that they are perfectly capable of doing bad things with that code, and that a great many are strongly inclined to do exactly that. We'll eventually here about it (on the next business day or whenever) and submit a form 2731-43b to Verisign who will get around to adding the bad guy's cert to a CRL which you will probably download at some point. Once you have that CRL downloaded and installed, you'll be good to go - unless the spyware that we allowed onto your system mucks with CRL checking.

    But anyway, look. Sure, we authorized Rapetech DickShove LLC and they totally screwed your system before we could stop them. But, I mean, is there any way we could have seen this thing coming? Certainly not unless we watch porn, which we don't.

    OK, that wasn't very fair of us. Let me explain. Rapetech DickShove LLC's business PO Box checked out and someone answered the phone! Our lawyers thought they sounded nice enough!! What more could we have possibly done?! You clicked ok to the vista warning! Furthermore, spyware creators are just as capable of filling out stacks of forms and paying $500. And they'll get plenty of practice. Who is this masturbatory program meant to benefit? It doesn't even benefit masturbators!
  15. Re:insightful?? by cecil_turtle · · Score: 2, Interesting

    2. Microsoft was looking at making this available for linux too.
    The way you worded that doesn't sound very convincing - "was" and "looking at" aren't a strong sell. Plus VLC 0.8.6 supports WMV pretty well on Linux right now.
  16. Clever strategy by vga_init · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Microsoft has a clever strategy (they usually do).

    What it boils down to is fighting Linux. I'm a regular Linux user myself, and I'm in the habit of recommending certain cross platform applications for my friends and family to use. Browsing the web? Get Firefox. Chatting online? Get Gaim. Writing a paper? Get OpenOffice.

    These programs aren't right for everyone, naturally, but a lot of people actually do end up loving them. They can install them on Windows, try them out, and get comfortable with them. Later, when they are experiencing OS related issues, I can say "Oh, well why don't you install Linux?" Once they find out that Linux runs all the programs they use every day, they don't freak out or anything. It makes the migration completely natural.

    Plugins like this are sneaky because Microsoft is saying, "OK, you're going to use Firefox... I see how it is. Let's tie it to our platform to make sure you stick with our other software."