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Hackers Invited To Crack Internet Voting
InternetVoting writes "The Philippine government and the International Foundation for Electoral System will be soliciting hackers to test the security of of their Internet voting system that will be tested in an upcoming pilot program." From the article,"Local and foreign computer hackers will be tapped to try and break into an Internet-based voting system that will be pilot tested by the country's Commission on Elections (Comelec) starting July 10."
they got a formal invitation this time?
I'm sure all the REAL hackers will RSVP.
1. Find bug
2. Don't report it
3. ????
4. Profit!
Of course any hacker with intentions of being a naughty boy is not going to show up and (a) make himself known or (b) reveal the holes.
Engineering is the art of compromise.
Posted by samzenpus on Wednesday April 18, @10:43PM
"The Philippine government and the International Foundation for Electoral System will be soliciting hackers to test the security of of their Internet voting system that will be tested in an upcoming pilot program."
UPDATE:
Posted by samzenpus on Wednesday April 18, @10:53PM
Internet voting has now been cracked.
"Things are more moderner than before- bigger, and yet smaller- it's computers-- San Dimas High School football RULES!"
Ferdinand Marcos elected for another term as President with 3,000,000,000 votes. Runner up, D4v1d 3. P3t3rs0n had only 2,000,000,000 votes. Second runner up, Nikolay Sokratov from St. Petersberg had 1,5000,000,000 votes and the remaining 10,000,000,000 votes were split among 1,000,000,000 minor party candidates.
for handing out wads of cash to the poor to get them to vote a certain way come elections
200 peso notes famously become scarce before elections
no need to hack the system to alter the vote, just keep buying the votes
the philippines is a beautiful land, with beautiful people... and a corrupt political establishment, it's a sad commentary on corruption the philippines, the vote buying
intellectual property law is philosophically incoherent. it is your moral duty to ignore it or sabotage it
Almost certainly, they are recording ALL the packets that travel across the line as well as checking the state of the system. And if not, then they deserve what will happen. And if it is on a OSS platform, then they will be able to modify the kernel so that it gives more info during the cracking attempt.
I prefer the "u" in honour as it seems to be missing these days.
...make sure to add n+1 votes for CowboyNeal!
Seriously, nothing to see here, move along...
On a related topic = I can't believe our Comelec is advertising this thing, a few months ago they don't even have a feasible electronic voting solution. I remember that they got a "Diebold" like deal for use in the last national elections but we know that the expensive machines had been now rotting in warehouses (and never had seen the light of the day, that makes Diebold more succesful). There are even local programmers/firms who are willing to "donate" their services just to make the election electronic but I guess that did not work out.
And I still don't have that promised "Electronic Voter's ID" when I registered at 18 (I'm in my 20's now). Now, how could they validate if I am the one who had casted my vote.. Hmmm...
As I said, nothing to see here.. move along.. I'm going to make some coffee...
Regards,
But someone I did some consulting for years ago had a PC security product that they claimed was unhackable. It was some disk arrangement where the OS could write to the disk, and those sectors would be saved in a scratch table so that when you rebooted the machine it reverted to its original state.
They took it to one of the big conventions and had a briefcase with $10k in it for the first person that could make a permanant change to the disk without opening the case. Guys showed up with their own latex gloves so they wouldn't leave prints and one managed to come up with the proprietory vendor unique command set for the particular drive model that was in the system.
I don't think that was really the sort of adversary that they expected would show.
So how do you make sure that they tell you of a hack they do find? What is to prevent them from failing to disclose said hack and sell it for a tidy sum to China?
A Good Troll is better than a Bad Human.
How much is the reward for cracking it? Or is there none?
:D
Either way, if it's less than what someone running for president can give you, then creating problems for themselves
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Because they're living there ?
Democracy is valued in some countries you know...
The Wise adapts himself to the world. The Fool adapts the world to himself. Therefore, all progress depends on the Fool.
1. Go to relatives house
2. Hold gun to their head and insist that they vote for who you tell them to
3. Watch them cast the vote
4. Tell them that you will kill them and their pet rabbit if they tell anyone
5. Win the election
Sadly, that is a problem that will always exist if people aren't voting in a private cubicle in a public place.
After the recent postal voting in the UK, it was found that many heads of families coerced the rest of the family into voting a certain way. That just can't happen in a private cubicle where you can always lie to dad later, but vote for who you want to now.
All your elections are belong to us !
Don't you know it is now both immoral and criminal to think beyond the next quarterly report?
The Tao of math: The numbers you can count are not the real numbers.
Unless of course the e-voting procedure requires a signoff from a trusted third party who assures that the voter isn't showing their vote to their boss /person who paid them/ abusive spouse, yada, yada, yada, you get the point.
How things work outside the United States:
How things work in the United States:
The saddest poem
Wrong question, a straw man. The problem isn't outside hackers playing with the system, but political insiders who have full access to the machines and code inperceptibly changing elections and the voting logs. A hacker may not be able to change an election, but a fully vested operative in the voting machine company can. Want a real test? Give the testers full access to the machines from soup to nuts. All code, accumulators, logs, access to the paper trail printouts, the works. NOW can they change the election?
Yes. Always, untraceably, if you can manipulate the traces.
This test they are running is worthless. They are playing to the myth of the superhacker, master of all crimes. The problem with evoting is that the evoting system programmers own the democracy, and you cannot test for that.
These evoting systems are the answer to the question: how do we fix elections without anyone noticing, or even understanding the system so that they notice that we can? The paper systems are foolproof, if done correctly, as in Canada. Those systems aren't broken. So we are fixing an uncrackable system for one that is cracked by design.
People. Someone is really determined to own democracy. Follow the money.