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250,000 PS3s Folding@Home

GamesIndustry.biz reports that over 250,000 users have signed up for the Folding@Home project on the PlayStation 3. The sheer number of users has resulted in '700 teraflops in a single moment', most of which is provided by PS3 users. "'The PS3 turnout has been amazing, greatly exceeding our expectations and allowing us to push our work dramatically forward,' said Vijay Pande, associate professor of Chemistry at Stanford University and Folding@home program lead. 'Thanks to PS3, we have performed simulations in the first few weeks that would normally take us more than a year to calculate. We are now gearing up for new simulations that will continue our current studies of Alzheimer's and other diseases.'" The article notes the software has a new update with some refined functionality and faster processing.

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  1. $500+ .... by pembo13 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I guess it is at least useful to society

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    1. Re:$500+ .... by empaler · · Score: 3, Interesting

      As much as I dislike Sony, I can't agree with you.

      Yeah, maybe they got some free publicity from making it possible to join Folding@home, but do you honestly believe that that's a negative thing?
      I think it's amazing that they've actually leveraged that amount of computing power into a project that so sorely needed a boost. I think it's amazing that they F@h people now have to up their ante to keep up.
      Hell, Sony could probably get a little more Goodwill-publicity squeezed out of the thing if they gave some kind of credits per X cycles of F@h from your unit as an incentive, but come on. Why complain that they've done something that benefits both them and everyone else?

    2. Re:$500+ .... by Applekid · · Score: 3, Insightful

      "This is scientific research that will eventually be patented..."

      Um... from the FAQ:

      Who "owns" the results? What will happen to them? Unlike other distributed computing projects, Folding@home is run by an academic institution (specifically the Pande Group, at Stanford University's Chemistry Department), which is a nonprofit institution dedicated to science research and education. We will not sell the data or make any money off of it.

      Moreover, we will make the data available for others to use. In particular, the results from Folding@home will be made available on several levels. Most importantly, analysis of the simulations will be submitted to scientific journals for publication, and these journal articles will be posted on the web page after publication. Next, after publication of these scientific articles which analyze the data, the raw data of the folding runs will be available for everyone, including other researchers, here on this web site.

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    3. Re:$500+ .... by Lost+Engineer · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Short answer: because you're paying for them. Ok, well, U.S. drug buyers are paying for them. I'm assuming you're one of those.

      These companies are thinking: Ok, if we've done all the hard work already, we may as well sell them for whatever we can get in Canada and Europe. If you think of it as one complete system, those who pay more are subsidizing the rest. Basically, other countries are leaching off of the U.S.'s highly efficient drug market. We'll see for how long that works for them.

  2. Why bother linking to the article? by HockeyPuck · · Score: 2, Informative
    The only information NOT in the summary is this tiny paragraph:

    The project is also making a new software update available. The 1.1 version improves visibility of donor locations on the globe, folding calculation speed and protein viewing. There's also additional language support, help screen hints, and improved donor-name length and character handling.

    Users can join the program by clicking on the Folding@home icon in the PS3 CrossMediaBar (XMB), or setting the application to run whenever the console is idle.


    Why not just put the entire article in the summary?
  3. That's great and all... by EveryNickIsTaken · · Score: 2, Interesting

    but I thought this was supposed to be a video game console? Where are the games? Perhaps Sony's PR machine can tackle that one.

    1. Re:That's great and all... by Cathoderoytube · · Score: 2, Funny

      Maybe Sony's using this as a sort 'pay as you go' system. They've realised most people can't afford the console so they're letting people slowly pay them off by donating a portion of their time to scientific research... 'Woo hoo! Only 700 more hours of calorich pragmastiscism indexing and I can totally play some Fight Night! But only for 10 minutes.. The University of Leakston's reserved my processor for some research on abscract non-contuitive phasing for the next 2 months'

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  4. Of course they're folding... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    Of course the PS3s are spending the time doing Folding@Home.

    It's not like there's any games to play on them.

    1. Re:Of course they're folding... by TB · · Score: 2, Interesting

      No, I wasnt. In places like Australia, PS3 is doing well in the charts, often with 2 titles in the top 3. Almost a million people bought PS3s in March alone.

    2. Re:Of course they're folding... by MikeBabcock · · Score: 2

      Don't feed the trolls. There's a whole bunch of people out there who want to believe that several million units sold is equivalent to zero and that comparing 360 sales to PS3 sales is fair without considering the 360's full one-year lead.

      This is Sony we're talking about -- God of War was not made by a third party, and Insomniac is working on another Ratchet & Clank, not to mention the existing games. I'm hoping Sony works out offering decent music & movie sales soon, but there's no reason to malign PS3 owners.

      PS, there's not much of a price difference between a PS3 and a 360 in the grand scheme of how much money gamers spend on gaming.

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    3. Re:Of course they're folding... by cbreaker · · Score: 2

      You don't even have to look at the grand scheme of things to realize that $100 isn't a big difference in price.

      I think the PS3 is a fine console. It's the first Sony console I've owned and I haven't been disappointed one bit. It's really nice; it's too bad some folks can't see beyond their own ignorance. (I guess that's the definition of ignorance..)

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  5. Difficult by rlp · · Score: 4, Funny

    Tried it but couldn't get past the first boss level.

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    1. Re:Difficult by MeanderingMind · · Score: 4, Funny

      It's raining in Shanghai...

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    2. Re:Difficult by GroeFaZ · · Score: 2, Funny

      Really? For me, within a couple of frames he bent over.

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  6. A small disparity by heinousjay · · Score: 5, Insightful

    According to the folding@home OS stats page, a total of 99712 PS3s contributed as of 25 Apr 2007. Where did the 250,000 come from?

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    1. Re:A small disparity by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      The "Total CPUs" for the PS3 lists only those machines which have returned a work unit within the last five days.

    2. Re:A small disparity by CastrTroy · · Score: 3, Funny

      I guess they're using the same system they use to count the number of PS3's they've sold.

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    3. Re:A small disparity by i+kan+reed · · Score: 3, Funny

      where did the 250,000 come from

      Sony's marketing department.
    4. Re:A small disparity by Lars+T. · · Score: 2, Informative

      The 250.000 comes from "over 250,000 users have signed up for the Folding@Home project". So about 150.000 haven't finnished their first work unit yet. That means they didn't have it running for approximately 8 hours to complete a WU (within the 2 days deadline) yet.

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  7. 250,000? by hansamurai · · Score: 3, Insightful

    According to this page, they are at about 691 teraflops with the PS3 producing 388 of those. I'm kinda confused on where they get the 250,000 number as that page also says there are about 30,000 active CPUs and about 100,000 total (as in 70,000 CPUs once participated but haven't returned data in five days). I mean, there's barely 250,000 total active CPUs including all platforms.

    1. Re:250,000? by TB · · Score: 4, Insightful

      They did say "Signed Up".

  8. 250,000+ with nothing better to do? by Moryath · · Score: 3, Funny

    What a shame - all those PS3's, and not a single decent game to play on them.

  9. Re:What is going to happen...? by shoptroll · · Score: 4, Insightful

    A similar question is how long until PS3 owners lose interest in this? F@H has been around a lot longer than the PS3. I've been running it on my PCs for a couple years now off and on, but are gamers going to keep leaving their machines on at night once the novelty and "my machine is helping cure cancer, how about yours?" wears off?

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  10. This Folding@Home sounds like a fun game! by stratjakt · · Score: 2, Funny

    I should pick up a PS3 so I can play it.

    LOL all those M$ fanboys dont even know about this HOT ESCLUSIVE TITAL!

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  11. Re:What is going to happen...? by TB · · Score: 2, Interesting

    PS3 owners can set F@H and other Dist apps due later on to run any time to unit is idle, be it for 10 mins or constant. Becuase it only takes around 8 hours (1.0) to crunch a unit they dont need to leave it on as long to do the same work as a PC would so 10 mins here and there would add up quickly.

  12. Folding@home by mypalmike · · Score: 4, Funny

    Best laundry sim on the market.

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  13. Re:Requested feature by MarkGriz · · Score: 2, Informative

    I know some (myself included) are wary of just running it 24/7.


    Considering the fact that running it 24/7 uses 144 kWh per month (200 W x 24 hrs x 30 day) I'd be pretty wary myself.
    Even at a generous 10 cents/kWh (the US national avg), that's almost $15/month.
    If you are unfortunate enough to live where electricity is much higher than that, you are closer to $25
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  14. Better idea for PS3 idle time... by Xest · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It's called turning it off, and helping do your little bit to cut CO2 emissions and cutting your electricity bill at the same time!

    Doesn't Sony know? Curing cancer is so last century, this century it's all about carbon emissions.

    1. Re:Better idea for PS3 idle time... by StikyPad · · Score: 3, Informative

      Curing cancer is so last century, this century it's all about carbon emissions.

      And with any luck, we can do as well at cutting CO2 emissions as we did at curing cancer!

  15. Re:This is not "free" by DrEldarion · · Score: 4, Informative

    The PS3 barely puts out any heat when folding. I was surprised when I checked it in the morning and it was completely cool and not blowing out much heat. For perspective, when playing a game, the hot air coming out feels like my car's exhaust. The actual system stays pretty cool, though, which is a tribute to their cooling methods.

  16. Re:This is not "free" by ivan256 · · Score: 4, Informative

    It shouldn't be too surprising that the GPU would be the most energy hungry component... That's how it is in PCs too.

  17. Re:Requested feature by SydShamino · · Score: 4, Insightful

    A $180 check to the Alzheimer's foundation would be $15 a month to cure Alzheimer's, and it has the further benefits of:

    A) letting the foundation pay for whatever research it feels is most important, which might include the folding@home project but might not (or, if you specify with your donation, could possibly go to the project of your choice);

    B) does not necessarily consume electricity at residential rates using many, many distributed lossy AC->DC conversions, which for most people means additional cost cooling one's house in the summer and an overall increase in greenhouse gas emissions;

    C) would be tax deductible, so depending on your tax bracket you could donate $200-$225 to this cause, reducing the amount of money you give the government to pay for whatever it wants, but further increasing the amount of money going to research you want.

    Alzheimer's runs in my family, and keeping a computer running at my home all day is a stupid way to cure it. The only possible benefit is that it hides the cost in the electric bill instead of making people write out a check. That would be silly but harmless if that electricity wasn't polluting the atmosphere.

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  18. Wha.... by fitten · · Score: 2, Funny

    You mean Sony has actually sold 250,000 PS3s? ;) (I kid, I kid, notice the winking smiley, please don't flame me :()

  19. good on them by techtakeaway · · Score: 2, Insightful

    a very good use of the PS3's spare processing power, and disease research is much more worthwhile than looking for aliens