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Jack Valenti, Dead at 85

saforrest writes "Jack Valenti, a man whose influence in both Washington and Hollywood was profound, died today at age 85. He first became famous as special assistant to Lyndon Johnson: he can even be seen in the famous photo aboard Air Force One. In 1966, he quit this job to become president of the MPAA, from 1966 to 2004."

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  1. Obligatory by Joey+Patterson · · Score: 5, Funny

    I say to you that a stroke is to Jack Valenti as the Boston strangler is to the woman home alone.

    RIP, Jack!

  2. C'mon by illegalcortex · · Score: 5, Insightful

    There's no point in acting like most of us liked him, even a little. We don't have to celebrate his death, but we also don't have to pretend he wasn't a douche.

    1. Re:C'mon by Lisandro · · Score: 5, Insightful

      We don't have to celebrate his death, but we also don't have to pretend he wasn't a douche.

      Mod parent up, way up. First sane comment for this article. Sometimes /. comments manage to give me the creeps... so, you're all dancing arround his grave because he didn't want you to enjoy your movies the way you see fit? Grow up. Seriously.

      My condolences to his friends and family, if any manages to read these lines.

  3. Re:Good by paganizer · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I don't think thats fair; take a look at the man's bio on wikipedia, he was at one time a valuable member of the human race, and flew 51 combat missions as the pilot of a B-25 during WWII.
    It wasn't until he got into politics that he turned evil, and after all, didn't we forgive Darth Vader at the end?

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  4. rest in peace by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Ahh, poor Jack. A nice guy who liked movies but didn't have a clue about how other people enjoyed them in the 21st century.

    Rest in peace Jack.

    (In heaven, there's no copyright law to violate. Everything is P2P. For reals!)

  5. mod parent up by Travoltus · · Score: 5, Insightful

    He should have been hung as an enemy of our rights as Americans.

    I know some people that were sued by the MPAA under his regime, who didn't have any pirated movies, and who were nearly ruined by legal expenses.

    I don't care about angry MPAA fans and their mod points, he deserves a long line of people waiting to piss on his grave for the laws he and the RIAA have inflicted upon an unwilling majority of citizens in this country.

    It's been ages since I've been to a movie because of him.

    It's all anime for me now.

    Not a dime to the MPAA-affiliated studios until the DMCA is shot down and buried for good.

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  6. I disagree by JemVai777 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    While Jack was quite the luddite in his waning years, he was instrumental in replacing the movie industry's repressive http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Production_Code">Hays Code [no sex, nudity, excessive violence, etc.] with the less-evil MPAA classification system. He also opposed the "clean DVD" proposal which would've seen sanitised versions of films -- a dangerous idea, if there ever was one.

    Not all of us are pure evil, and Jack has to be applauded for moving the industry in the right direction. I only hope his successor is a forward-thinking visionary.

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  7. Re:RIP Mr. Valenti by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    >>that had done more in his life for his beliefs

    His belief was that fair use should be outlawed because it interfered with corporate profits and you're praising him for that?

    I understand it's crass to speak ill of the dead, but Valenti wasn't a terribly nice guy.

  8. Even though by Brian+Cohen · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Even though he lobbied for the the DMCA and is a proponent of DRM, he did however start the rating system which replaced the much more militant Hays Code, allowing movies to be less censored.

  9. Re:Good riddence by BandwidthHog · · Score: 5, Funny

    Nah, just bury him face down.

    By the time he digs all the way to daylight, hell come up just in time to terrorize China’s thriving movie industry.

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  10. Re:Frosty piss... by BlackSabbath · · Score: 5, Informative

    Where my dad comes from in Greece (Lesbos - yes, my Dad is a Lesbian), they have a saying.
    phonetically: "Homa sto kolo tou, zoi se logo mas"
    which roughly translates as "Dirt up his arse, life to us"

    It is typically said when learning of the death of someone you prefer in their new state.

  11. Re:Frosty piss... by Benaiah · · Score: 5, Informative

    ...right on his grave.

    Rot in hell, you son of a bitch. the first post was so much more insightful than this.

    Velenti was famous for this quote.
    "I say to you that the VCR is to the American film producer and the American public as the Boston strangler is to the woman home alone."

    And thus the first quote can be seen as quite hilarious.
  12. Re:LOL by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    If you don't get an attorney, do you at least get a continental breakfast and a little mint on your pillow? Those civil suites sound like a total ripoff.

  13. This is a day I'll never forget! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting
    Happy World Intellectual Property Day! April 26th, a day to remember forever!

    For only the third time, the theme of the day is "Encouraging Creativity". Let's all show Jack how creative we can be.

    1. Re:This is a day I'll never forget! by ari_j · · Score: 5, Funny

      And that, Alanis, is ironic.

  14. Re:Now let's be nice by natrius · · Score: 5, Funny

    Not only that, but since you're having this moment of silence in a public place, you'll be sued by John Cage for a public performance of 4'33" without his consent.

  15. Slashdot editors do edit! by saforrest · · Score: 5, Interesting
    I'm the submitter of this article. In an effort to bend over backwards to be fair to Valenti, I included a link to the MPAA's own obit of him, as well as an interview where he talked about working to implement Lyndon Johnson's civil rights program.

    I see both these links were removed. Did that really need to happen? Yes, we all hate Valenti, etc., etc., etc. Does this article really need to be nothing other than a collective bitchfest? The man was a big fat jerk, but do we really need to talk about nothing more than that?

    In that case, here is Lord Byron's poem on Lord Castlereagh:

    Posterity will ne'er survey
    a Nobler grave than this:
    Here lie the bones of Castlereagh:
    Stop, traveller, and piss !
  16. Re:Now there's the Slashdot I know and love! by LordKazan · · Score: 5, Insightful

    No, not "because he didn't want you to watch some movies for free". You're clearly ignorant on the entire subject of DRM, the DMCA, etc.

    It's because he participated in the wholesale theft of consumer rights that people are mad at him.

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  17. I have not won anything but hope. by twitter · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Speaking to those of you who have expressed distasteful feelings here, try to remember that there is such a thing as "winning gracefully," "being a good sport" or whatever you wish to call it.

    The most disrespectful sentiment is that his death is some sort of victory. It's not because the bad policies and laws he fostered and believed in are still here. His passing brings some hope of change and that is what we celebrate.

    This isn't the time to debate them [unAmerican laws].

    On the contrary, now is the perfect time to reflect on the man and his beliefs and what he accomplished. What better time will there ever be?

    He believed in digital restrictions until at least 2004 and probably went to his grave without understanding the real social cost of such control. To this day, I'm forced to chose between digital freedom and participation in popular culture. There is no middle ground because people like him considered you and me an insignificant minority who should use other options. Rights don't work like that. You can't violate people's rights because few people would bother to exercise them. While many of the things he said have been repudiated for 20 years, the logic he used never changed and he continued to say things we all hate. Those things hurt all of us every day.

    The passing of generations is often the only way real change happens. Mr. Valenti was a product of a different time. His loyalties reflect those times but his intransigence is timeless. The run away success of the VCR was helpful to those he professed loyalty toward, and his opposition was harmful to them. It is surprising that he never learned the lesson. We can all feel sad for his family but we can also look at the world as a place that's a little less hostile.

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  18. Re:Bye bye, Jack. by britneys+9th+husband · · Score: 5, Funny

    The 100 greatest movies of all time. On DVD. 60 inch plasma TV. Sound system on loan from Heaven. Region 1 DVDs, region 3 player.

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  19. Re:Valenti's family deserves simple courtesy by cgenman · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I totally agree with the sentiment that Valenti's family deserves respect, and should be allowed to mourn.

    But that having been said, we're not talking about a "fallen enemy." He never lost. Valenti pretty much won the vision that he had. And that vision included heavy lobbying for the eggregious provisions of the DMCA, which to this day put people in jail for things that otherwise are defined as their right to do. Leaders still lionize him.

    He instituted the hollywood ratings system, true, but he also ensured that the body was the most secrative and uncontestable organization inside the US. He also ensured that the people within that body followed his viewpoint about the world, and that it basically carried the weight of law, and as such became the most censurious organization in America. One could argue that, more than any other single individual, he's the reason why you can blow someone's head off in an R rated movie, but you can't show a woman touching herself through her clothes... Why violence is A.O.K. but physical intimacy is just wrong.

    "I say to you that the VCR is to the American film producer and the American public as the Boston strangler is to the woman home alone." When asked about using 4 second clips in a home movie project, he replied "There's no fair use to take something that doesn't belong to you."

    And people really do go to jail over this stuff. We're talking about someone whose paranoia and lack of knowledge led to unbased responses which are now routinely taking chunks of people's lives away. And even before he was responsible for the death of real security research in the US, he was already the father of modern censorship here. Let's not forget his help in selling the Vietnam War to the population.

    This is the perfect time to debate his actions. This is the only time to debate his actions. What is the measure of a man? Here was a man who repeatedly prioritized business over freedom. And while he may have had his own reasons for doing so, this is not the sort of thing we should be pointing to our children and saying "be like that."

    There is, by and large, no such thing as evil people. Jack was not an evil person. But he did many, many bad things with the combination of misdirected intentions and personal charisma. And now, with the US forcing other countries to synchronize with our draconian copyright laws, his legacy will belong to the world too. This is the perfect time to acknowledge that good people do bad things, and frequently the people whom you would define as the best people have the power to do the worst things. Also, this is the perfect time to reflect upon how our modern culture is owned by large corporations in a similar fashion to how midevil culture was owned by the church. If we're to prevent another mickey mouse copyright extension, now would be the time to harden our resolve.

    One may complain that we demonize the man because he took away something as trivial as movies. This is not true. We demonize the man because, for something as trivial as movies, he was willing to take away our freedom.