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SCO Given NASDAQ Delisting Notice

SCO Delenda Est writes "The SEC has given SCO notice that they will be delisted from the NASDAQ if they cannot keep their share price above $1 sometime in the next 180 days. Although they may be able to avoid delisting for a while, their small market capitalization will hinder their efforts. Given their other financials, this just goes to show how desperate their current financial situation is."

116 comments

  1. Business ? by tizan · · Score: 1

    The slashdot tagging says "business" ...yep what business is that for trying to sell fear and get cash out of it ?

    1. Re:Business ? by Skreech · · Score: 5, Funny

      The slashdot tagging says "business" ...yep what business is that for trying to sell fear and get cash out of it ? The media? ;)
    2. Re:Business ? by leonmergen · · Score: 1

      .. only on slashdot can an article about a company's financial situation, nasdaq et al be questioned to not be business-related..

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    3. Re:Business ? by Marcion · · Score: 1

      So Long and Thanks for all the Fish. Proprietary Unix will be dead by Christmas. Linux forever.

      See also:

      http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=200704271 85116413

    4. Re:Business ? by Marcion · · Score: 1

      "The SCO Group, Inc. ("SCO") (Nasdaq: SCOX - News), a leading provider of UNIX® software technology and mobile services, today announced it has received a Nasdaq Staff Deficiency Letter "

      What is the definition of mobile services here? I'm sure Nokia or Vodafone called be called leading in their markets, as for UNIX, the only company with any hope of success with proprietary UNIX were Sun and Oops they open-sourced it. AIX is still big but IBM are certainly backing the Linux horse as their primary Posix platform. HP-UX hasn't done anything new in a long time, with HP going for Linux too. So maybe there are the "leading provider of UNIX®", even if they only have a couple of customers.

    5. Re:Business ? by Marcion · · Score: 1

      I'm sure Nokia or Vodafone *could* be called leading in their markets,

      Sorry, still eating breakfast, no caffeine yet.

  2. Dear Darl, by baryon351 · · Score: 4, Funny

    Dear Darl,

    We told you so.

    Sincerely,
    Internet full of geeks with a clue.

    1. Re:Dear Darl, by pembo13 · · Score: 5, Funny

      Dear Internet full of geeks with a clue,

      Did you miss the bit where I made a bunch of money?

      Sincerely,
      Darl

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    2. Re:Dear Darl, by Bastard+of+Subhumani · · Score: 5, Funny

      Dear Darl,

      I hope to share a cell with you real soon.

      Sincerely,
          Bubba.

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      Only three things are certain; death, taxes, and apocryphal quotations - Ben Franklin.
    3. Re:Dear Darl, by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      Poor Darl, going from getting pwned by geeks with a clue, to getting pwned by Bubba who has a "raging clue" .

      http://video.google.com.au/videoplay?docid=-456022 3634477555563&q=raging+clue

  3. Other ways to sell stock by Glowing+Fish · · Score: 4, Funny

    I am sure that even without the NASDAQ, SCO can sell stock other ways. We can perhaps expect to be getting this e-Mail many times very soon:

    Br3ak!ng NEWS! Great NEW STOCK P1CK! SCO corp is posed to go thru the roof when it wins LAWSUIT! CURR#NT PRICE: .50 cents. TARGET PRICE :$22.50!

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    1. Re:Other ways to sell stock by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I wonder if they will do reverse stock split to stay listed. They've got nothing to lose from the bad publicity compared to from getting delisted.

    2. Re:Other ways to sell stock by Bloke+down+the+pub · · Score: 1

      I refer the right honoourable gentleman to my previous answer.

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    3. Re:Other ways to sell stock by wfberg · · Score: 3, Informative

      At a market cap of 19.53M at 92ct/share, there are 21M shares in SCOX. 14.25M are "float" according to finance.yahoo.com, so they can do reverse stock-splits quite a bit, and still have more than 500,000 shares listed.

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    4. Re:Other ways to sell stock by gmack · · Score: 1

      Your looking at the wrong limit. If they do a 1:4 reverse split to bring the stock to just under $4 and the stock drops back to where it is now then the value of the company is Then 4.82 million. You calculate market value by subtracting the value of the stock held by insiders so there isn't that much room to breathe when they need to maintain a market value of at least 1 million.

    5. Re:Other ways to sell stock by wfberg · · Score: 1

      In my savings account, thirteen and quarter million dollars aren't exactly loose change. If they drop that much, they'll be bought up by some hedge fund who will split up the litigious part of the company (some LLC that can take the fall for the IBM counterclaims) from assets that they can sell on, like real estate.

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    6. Re:Other ways to sell stock by gmack · · Score: 2, Informative

      Why would a hedge fund do that when the total value of was a combined $519 000 according to Their last financial results?

      SCO owns nothing of value at this point.

    7. Re:Other ways to sell stock by jonbryce · · Score: 1

      What assets are these? The only asset they have now is a bit of cash in the bank, and we aren't talking huge sums in the overall scheme of things.

  4. What happens to the case, then? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Without any money left... suppose they're completely delisted and considered a worthless company, how many people think the case will continue? I get the feeling the lawyers would just say "fuck it, we're done" and leave.

    Capcha word: pitying

    1. Re:What happens to the case, then? by Arker · · Score: 4, Insightful

      That simply isn't an option. Novelle and IBM both have lots of counterclaims that will have to be dealt with, even if Caldera does drop their baseless claims. And lawyers aren't allowed to just back out of a case. Plus BS&F have already been paid to take this thing to the conclusion...

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    2. Re:What happens to the case, then? by rfunches · · Score: 1

      Without any money left... suppose they're completely delisted and considered a worthless company, how many people think the case will continue?

      Delisting will only kick them to OTC/pink sheets; it doesn't mean the company is worthless, just that SCOX can't meet the minimum listing requirements for NASDAQ. But as I posted previously the most likely scenario is a reverse split to bring the price back above $1 and stay NASDAQ listed. It's interesting to note, though, that in their last 10-Q filing, as of January 31, 2007, SCO said they have nearly $4 million to pay for "experts, consultants, and other expenses in connection with [...] litigation" and the company makes quarterly payments to law firms Boies, Schiller & Flexner LLP, Kevin McBride and Berger Singerman in the amount of $2 million. The company has already spent $11 million in the litigation.

    3. Re:What happens to the case, then? by RobertLTux · · Score: 1

      the big thing is secondary and teterary explosions (ie cases that will spin up just after the current one gets gaveled)
      we have
      1 the BSF bar cases
      2 the TSCOG officers cases
      3 the Microsoft / Baystar cases
      4 the officer cases from 3

      it stands to reason that a bunch of folks are going to be fitted for orange jumpsuits so the next few years will be very nasty for some folks
      (i would bet that PJ will be deposed by Novell/ IBM /SEC/DOJ in an "undisclosed location" to pick up her part of this mess and you know what
      SHE WILL BE HAPPY TO DO THIS FOR A PROPERLY WRITTEN ORDER)

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    4. Re:What happens to the case, then? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Isn't the "pink sheets" where a lot of the punp and dump scam stocks go? Looks like SCO will be in good company. Maybe they will learn something?

  5. Lets buy them out. by orbitalia · · Score: 2, Funny

    Just for the fun of it. Then sack Darl of course.

    1. Re:Lets buy them out. by cyphercell · · Score: 1

      Maybe IBM or Novell could do it.

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    2. Re:Lets buy them out. by qbwiz · · Score: 3, Insightful

      The bad part of this plan is that part where we increase the stock price, thus giving Darl money.

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    3. Re:Lets buy them out. by HaeMaker · · Score: 1

      Heh. It would only cost $19.4 Million!

    4. Re:Lets buy them out. by Yvanhoe · · Score: 3, Funny

      Yeah but think about it : you would be owning Linux then !

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    5. Re:Lets buy them out. by Alien+Being · · Score: 1

      Count me in. I'll take three rolls if it's the quilted variety (sensitive sphincter).

    6. Re:Lets buy them out. by dkleinsc · · Score: 2, Interesting

      If by "sack" you mean "tie up in a sack" then I'm all for it.

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    7. Re:Lets buy them out. by Trollificus · · Score: 1
      So who wants to chip in? I think the Slashdot community can come up with $50.

      :)

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  6. What's this? by pair-a-noyd · · Score: 1

    No "haha" tag? Someone falling down on the job?

    1. Re:What's this? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No "haha" tag? Someone falling down on the job?


      Look across the tagging on all recent stories. Probably all stories ever in fact. Or trying clicking on one of the "Recent tags" listed to the right of the front page (that's funny... these recent tags haven't been applied to ANY stories). I think we've quietly and very clumsily moved to editor only tagging, and basically just using the section titles.

      But then why is Zonk actively encouraging people to use the "thinkofthechildren" tag in the department title when we seemingly aren't allowed to? Maybe he just didn't get the memo.
  7. Link to proof by Soko · · Score: 5, Informative

    Since there was no link in the story, I figured it'd be prudent to provide one sowing that SCO is indeed in peril of having their stock de-listed.

    As usual, PJ provides the relevant and proper info.

    Soko

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    "Depression is merely anger without enthusiasm." - Anonymous
  8. What? Again? by Anna+Merikin · · Score: 2, Informative

    Wasn't the same warning given SCO several years ago...just before Microsoft and Sun bought SCO's expensive UNIX licenses for linux, bringing SCO's per share price back above the penny-stock listings?

    This was just a warning, like last time, not a notice of delisting. That would come just about the time SCO v. IBM finishes.

    Nothing to see here, move along.

    1. Re:What? Again? by Antique+Geekmeister · · Score: 1

      Look for Microsoft to fund them again, but only enough to keep them alive, much as described on Slashdot in http://slashdot.org/articles/04/03/11/158214.shtml . Deals like this keep SCO and its Fear/Uncertainty/Doubt campaign against open source projects like Linux alive, while shielding Microsoft from counter-suit or public exposure of their genuine motives for keeping SCO alive.

      Remember, Microsoft doesn't necessarily want SCO to *win*. They want SCO weak to prevent any good products coming from that particular UNIX vendor, and to continue the demonstrably false rumors that Linux developers steal from UNIX.

    2. Re:What? Again? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The last warning had nothing to do with share price, it was because they were late in filing.

    3. Re:What? Again? by Weedlekin · · Score: 4, Insightful

      "Microsoft doesn't necessarily want SCO to *win*. They want SCO weak to prevent any good products coming from that particular UNIX vendor, and to continue the demonstrably false rumors that Linux developers steal from UNIX."

      SCO was far too weak to be any threat to Microsoft long before this case started, and any FUD value it might once have had is now gone due to the fact that it's dragged on for so long, and has turned out to be so full of obvious crap from SCO and their lawyers that most geeks have lost interest in it, let alone everybody else. Microsoft's FUD-generation funds are thus now being spent on injecting money into commercial Linux vendors like Novell so they can make a noise about the possibility of Linux infringing on _their_ IP, which they have such vast quantities of that, unlike SCO's laughable (to geeks) claims, isn't easy for even the most diligent open source developers to discount because of the loose and wide-ranging nature of software patents.

      From Microsoft's POV therefore, SCO has already served its purpose, and there's no reason for them to waste money propping up a case that even known shills like Laura Didio seem to have given up on, especially when that same money could be spent far more productively on their current "Linux probably infringes several of our patents" FUD campaign.

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    4. Re:What? Again? by Antique+Geekmeister · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I see your point, but SCO's usefulness to Microsoft is not yet played out. Like a tobacco lobbyist ranting about individual choice, Darl McBride's helps cast doubt on the intellectual property of Linux. It's been a *cheap* investment for Microsoft to harass Novell, IBM, RedHat, and other Linux and genuinely open source development companies this way.

      You may be underestimating Microsoft's willingness to continue spreading FUD, long after intelligent technology people recognize it as malicious rumor-mongering. Inexperienced people will invest in the "known" or "safe" or "supported" vendor even when the vendor's history of customer abuse and fraud and lack of compatibility. Take a look at the BBC's decision to use Windows Media for its new Iplayer service for an example of such a policy, founded in avoiding difficulty with intellectual property or support issues.

    5. Re:What? Again? by Dan+Ost · · Score: 1

      The SCO lawsuit might have been good for MS in the short term, but I think that Linux is far stronger now than it would have been without the lawsuit.

      For example, do you think that mainstream media would be writing articles comparing Vista to Ubuntu on the desktop if the SCO lawsuit hadn't placed Linux so clearly on their radar?

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    6. Re:What? Again? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Here's a conspiracy theory: What if Novell wins the lawsuit with SCO and becomes the new SCO spreading FUD against Linux. Aren't they in a better position because they 'actually' own the copyright? Is this why Microsoft dumped SCO and went to Novell instead? What harm can Novell potentially do to Linux if they are indeed the owners of UNIX?

    7. Re:What? Again? by Weedlekin · · Score: 1

      "Like a tobacco lobbyist ranting about individual choice, Darl McBride's helps cast doubt on the intellectual property of Linux."

      Not even the most anti-Linux members of the computer press believe that SCO's claims of (a) owning any significant UNIX copyrights that (b) they have proof Linux infringes hold any water whatsoever. Their obvious and constant delaying tactics, failure to produce _any_ evidence whatsoever of Linux infringement or indeed that they actually own any rights that could be infringed, endless last minute changes in the nature of what they are claiming, and a bunch of rulings that have gone against them have resulted in this being seen by management types for what it was -- an attempt to shake down IBM that failed dismally, and then turned into a pump-and-dump scam to try and ensure that various major investors come out ahead when SCO inevitably goes down the toilet.

      "You may be underestimating Microsoft's willingness to continue spreading FUD, long after intelligent technology people recognize it as malicious rumor-mongering. "

      Microsoft will continue to finance FUD campaigns if they think PHBs will believe them, but this ceased to be the case for SCO once the case moved from being largely technical in nature to something that business people recognise and understand, i.e. a shakedown attempt followed by repeated bouts of pumping and dumping on the back of increasingly obvious and ever more desperate legal delaying manoeuvres. PHBs may not know much about the technology that was supposedly at the heart of this, so like large portions of the press, they were willing to give SCO the benefit of the doubt initially, but they are very familiar indeed with attempting to get bought out, stock market manipulation, and slimy lawyering, all of which have been the most notable and obvious aspects of this particular case for at least the last two years.

      "Inexperienced people will invest in the "known" or "safe" or "supported" vendor even when the vendor's history of customer abuse and fraud and lack of compatibility. "

      FUD campaigns are not however aimed at the inexperienced or "arse coverers" who would choose MS anyway, but at those who are actively considering other options. The SCO case has ceased to be of any relevance to those who may be considering another option instead of Windows: they won't be choosing SCO UNIX because nobody wants it; they won't be paying SCO for a licence to use Linux due to the fact that nobody believes SCO has any worthwhile IP anymore; which also means that they won't be influenced by any FUD based on them having said IP.

      "Take a look at the BBC's decision to use Windows Media for its new Iplayer service for an example of such a policy, founded in avoiding difficulty with intellectual property or support issues."

      I don't see where this has any relevance to the discussion. The BBC's decision was based entirely on protecting their own IP, and they chose Windows Media DRM because it was the only easily licensable format that 95% of their potential customers for the service can already play. The only FUD here was therefore the same FUD that led to so many other media organisations opting for DRM in the first place, and that had nothing whatsoever to do with the SCO case or anything Microsoft said or did.

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  9. Related... by jginspace · · Score: 2, Informative

    ...as discussed here two weeks ago. More details at PRNewsWire.

  10. Tag by fluch · · Score: 1

    The tag you are looking for is the "haha" tag. :-)

    - Martin

  11. Pump and dump/ milking the cow by EmbeddedJanitor · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Darl's business strategy was very successful for some, if not for SCO:

    Pump and dump: The "we're going to screw over IBM" hype lured in the vultures and pumped up SCO stocks. Those that then dumped stocks probably got 10x the true value for their stocks.

    Milking the cow: Darl's brother Kevin is part of the SCO legal team. Keeping SCO and the conflict alive and spending big on lawyers fees got a lot of money into Darl's brother's pockets. Families help eachother out.

    Unfortunately SCO was once a great software company that got trashed by poor management and greed.

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    1. Re:Pump and dump/ milking the cow by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Unfortunately SCO was once a great software company

      You must be confused...

    2. Re:Pump and dump/ milking the cow by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

      the software company sco from that time is not the same company with that name today

      just to remember, it was caldera who changed the name to sco after they bough the trademark sco

      so it has absolutely nothing to do with the once successfull sco, they just try to let it look that way

    3. Re:Pump and dump/ milking the cow by masticina · · Score: 1

      Well maybe Darl's family isn't out of the scoop here. The court can judge that damages are taken from the laywers to if the ligation was without merit. It doesn't happens much but see it as the neighbour that always complains. If the neighbour for the fourth time starts a lawsuit against you ungrounded the law can simply request damages from HIM for the damage he done to you!

      In a case like this with Sco lying and cheating and trying to inject steriods into a dying case..well I think this is the type of case where the Laywers will have to pay Damages to the winning parties for Pursueing a lost case without Merit!

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    4. Re:Pump and dump/ milking the cow by lingenfr · · Score: 1

      I don't know that SCO was every a great company. They had some great products. As a company, my cut is that they always sucked. I can remember the days of being on the phone with their arrogant staff while they explained to me why I had to pay extra to be able to compile, extra to have standard communications packages, extra.... After paying $6000 for a single server license of Unix. As a company, I am not sure that SCO (regardless of incarnation) every GOT the UNIX market. Had they been able to pull their greedy heads out of their arses long enough to see the light of day, they might have been a force to be reckoned with. As it is, good riddance. I will drink a beer to their memory when they are delisted. I hope their story is captured in MBA case studies so that the budding entrepreneurs of tomorrow learn a lesson.

    5. Re:Pump and dump/ milking the cow by jon_anderson_ca · · Score: 1

      If all this is true, wouldn't it violate some kind of securities legislation? I mean, isn't that "insider trading" or something?

      If I were a major shareholder that got burned by this, I'd be thinking about suing the McBrides personally, or at least trying to get prosecutors to make him the next Conrad Black. I mean, there must be some law that prevents executives from manipulating a publically-traded company for personal gain... right?

      Right?

    6. Re:Pump and dump/ milking the cow by _Sprocket_ · · Score: 2, Informative

      the software company sco from that time is not the same company with that name today


      The software company known as SCO (The Santa Cruz Operation) sold their rights associated with Unix to Caldera Systems in 2001. SCO then renamed themselves Tarentella, Inc. having retained rights to their Tarentella product (something akin to Citrix). Caldera Systems immediately changed their name to Caldera International. In 2002 there is another name change to The SCO Group (often referred to as "SCOg" to avoid confusion with the old SCO). And in 2003 is the filing of the infamous lawsuit against IBM. In 2005, Tarantella is purchased by Sun Microsystems.
    7. Re:Pump and dump/ milking the cow by killjoe · · Score: 1

      This case was simply about MS spending a few million dollars to hurt IBM and Linux. The intent was to sink SCO all along and use it as tinder to burn Linux and IBM.

      Along the say MS also burned baystar which may have some repercussions further down the road and it opened itself to all kinds of interesting lawsuits from IBM once the discovery from this case is gone over with a fine toothed comb.

      MS knows this is coming and this is why they made a deal with Novell. They didn't want to fight two major lawsuits at the same time.

      We haven't heard the last of this yet.

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    8. Re:Pump and dump/ milking the cow by cant_get_a_good_nick · · Score: 1

      Unfortunately SCO was once a great software company that got trashed by poor management and greed.


      Though the name SCO probably deserves better than they're getting, even oldSCO wasn't that great of a company. They made a semi-decent for the time port of UNIX to x86, but never improved it and as time wore on showed it lacked features and was generally ugly. They never improved it in the face of not one but many free alternatives that were better on features price and support. They had an initial advantage of a sort of vendor lock-in but instead of capitalizing on this and improving their code base they milked the cash cow until it ran dry. I'd shed more tears over Digital, at least a place where they had a history of innovation with the VAX, Alpha, OSF/1, and some others.
  12. Wow... by jrcsnet · · Score: 1

    Wow... not only no link to the story, but the half attempt at a summary says something different then the title. Possibly should be 'The SEC has been given notice by SCO that they will be delisted from the NASDAQ', not whats above.

    Either way, SCO is toast. Not like its a big surprise or anything.

    1. Re:Wow... by RobertLTux · · Score: 1

      i can see TSCOG having a name change back to Caldera since thats what TSCOG will end up as

      http://www.google.com/search?num=100&hl=en&newwind ow=1&safe=off&client=firefox-a&rls=org .mozilla:en-US:official&hs=0ks&defl=en&q=define:CA LDERA&sa=X&oi=glossary_definition&ct=title
      or just input define: caldera into a google bar

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  13. Latin... by tmk · · Score: 1

    'SCO delenda est' is gibberish. You mean 'SCO esse delendam'.

    1. Re:Latin... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Could you explain that a bit more? Obviously he's replaced "Carthago" with "SCO" in the famous quote "Carthago delenda est". As someone unfamiliar with latin that seems ta reasonable substitution. I'm guessing there's some subtlety I'm missing but could you explain it a bit?

      Thanks

    2. Re:Latin... by Opportunist · · Score: 2, Funny

      SCO eunt domus!

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    3. Re:Latin... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "SCO delenda est" is correct. If you want to use "esse delendam", you have to use it in a clause, thus: "Censeo SCO esse delendam".

    4. Re:Latin... by Ixot · · Score: 2, Informative

      What Cicero would say was indeed "Ceterum censeo Carthaginem esse delendam". This translates (roughly) to "Furthermore, I think that Carthage must be destroyed. The "C. esse delendam" part of the quote is what one calls an "Accusativus cum infinitivo" and usually follows verbs of dialogue, reflection or counsel.

      I believe that "SCO delenda est" really translates to "SCO must be deleted".

      Of course my Latin is a bit rusty, so I may wrong.

    5. Re:Latin... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Delenda" is a gerundive meaning "a thing which must be deleted" I can't see any reason why "SCO delenda est" should be considered incorrect.

    6. Re:Latin... by Deadstick · · Score: 1
    7. Re:Latin... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's not gibberish, it means "SCO is to be (must be) destroyed". The original phrase only had Carthago instead of SCO since my ancestors (I'm roman) weren't exactly Linux users.

    8. Re:Latin... by thephotoman · · Score: 1

      See also: my sig.

      Your latin is actually quite correct.

      However, the fact is moot: "SCO se deleveit" would be more accurate.

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    9. Re:Latin... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It is not gibberish, it's simply grammatically incorrect, and the Romans weren't above mangling grammar to make their slogans punchier.

      "The Romans, they go to the house?"

  14. I for one.... by apodyopsis · · Score: 2, Interesting

    .... strongly think we need a new tag for this case.

    "justdeserts" should do it nicely.

    http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/just_deserts

    1. Re:I for one.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But wait...

      Isn't Utah already just one, big-ass desert?

  15. or in other words... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    Microsoft has a 180 days to decide if this angle of attack on Linux is worth
    another cash infusion. Me thinks, they'll not throw good money after bad.

  16. $9,962,523.6 for a 51% stake. by burnttoy · · Score: 2, Interesting

    It'd be worth paying just to get at the details of the MS/SCO Unix cross licensing deal and/or the Baystar investing silliness.

    The flip side is if Novell are right and SCO don't have any real rights to Unix then MS may want their cash back.

    Mark Shuttleworth could afford it...

    Mark? YOU OUT THERE!? Fancy a laugh?! G'wan! ;-D

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  17. Cry me a river by kwrxxx · · Score: 0

    I think I'll drink a beer to SCO tonight.

  18. Your chance for immortality by Opportunist · · Score: 1

    Think about it. You own Linux. Then you open it officially to the OSS, untouchable for any corporations.

    Your name would be standing right next to Linus and Richard in the book of reverence of geeks all over the planet. I mean, that ain't worth a mere 20 mil?

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    1. Re:Your chance for immortality by Cid+Highwind · · Score: 1

      Worth a mere $20 mil? Maybe.

      Worth giving $20 mil to Darl, SCO's board, BS&F, and anyone else scummy enough to be holding SCOX shares now? Not even close.

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    2. Re:Your chance for immortality by HUADPE · · Score: 1

      SCO is worth probably -$100 million. They will lose the IBM case badly, and get judged against for some gigantic amount. If you bought out SCO, you'd have to pray that IBM, Sun, and all the other people suing would drop the cases and let you be. If you arranged that in advance...you'd go to jail for insider trading.

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    3. Re:Your chance for immortality by Opportunist · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Where's the problem? You buy out SCO, drop the case against IBM and declare all *nix code you own OSS, IBM comes after the company for damages, company goes poof since there's no assets left and IBM goes after management and board for money.

      Bottom line, you give IBM a headache and drive Darl and his pals into bankrupcy. Win-Win.

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    4. Re:Your chance for immortality by darkonc · · Score: 1
      SCO has poison pill provisions which mean that, if you buy out the company, Darl, his partners in crime and BSF get oodles of money. Then, when IBM finally wins the lawsuit and goes after the executive and board, they find you holding an axe. It won't do either you or IBM any good.

      At this point, the best thing to do is allow IBM and Novell to beat the company into a whimpering pulp and then (hopefully) go after the executives and BSF for the blood money that is no longer in the company.

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    5. Re:Your chance for immortality by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      If I understand such severance contracts right, they only get dumped a load of money on their head should the company decide to sack them before their time. I'm far from that! I certainly won't sack him, actually, I would not even allow him to go. I want him to go down with the ship.

      Should he want out of his contract against the company's intentions, I'm pretty sure the payment has to flow the other way.

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  19. $1 by essence · · Score: 1

    why can't their price drop below $1? Is there a particar reason why a share can't be traded below $1?

    1. Re:$1 by MaGGuN · · Score: 1

      Quoted from Groklaw:
        On April 23, 2007, The SCO Group, Inc. (the "Company") received a letter from The Nasdaq Stock Market ("Nasdaq") indicating that the bid price of its common stock for the last 30 consecutive business days had closed below the minimum $1.00 per share required for continued listing under Nasdaq Marketplace Rule 4310(c)(4). Pursuant to Nasdaq Marketplace Rule 4310(c)(8)(D), the Company has been provided an initial period of 180 calendar days, or until October 22, 2007, to regain compliance.

    2. Re:$1 by essence · · Score: 1

      ok. its the NASDAQ rules ..but why is it in the rules?

    3. Re:$1 by KokorHekkus · · Score: 4, Informative

      It's because when a stocks value go that low it becomes very easy to manipulate in various ways (such as different pump-and-dump schemes etc) since even a very small swing in paid price means many percent in profit. Basically the stock price becomes much more unreliable as an indicator of the actual value of the company and that in turn would reflect badly on the stock exchange where it is trade.

      More about penny stock fraud at wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Penny_stocks#Penny_St ock_Fraud

    4. Re:$1 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Below $1 shares become increasingly volatile since a minimal movement in price - 1 cent - becomes more than 1 percent of the stock value. If you think about all those stock scams where you get emailed begging you to buy such-and-such in the hope that a few mugs doing it will knock the price a few percent and make someone a fortune, well that's exactly the sort of thing that Nasdaq don't want on their market. Some people would say that pretty much the same thing happened with SCO in the over $1 range but if anything that just highlights how volatile a stock can be, and why Nasdaq have rules to minimise it.

    5. Re:$1 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Maybe share prices should be listed in floating-point or with a certain minimal number of digits?
      Shares below $1 could be listed with 3 or 4 digits behind the decimal point.

      Of course, not Verizon shares. http://science.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=06/12/0 9/0625245

    6. Re:$1 by jcr · · Score: 1

      Like any other stock exchange, NASDAQ is the ultimate guarantor of any trades that take place under its auspices. Penny stocks are more likely to involve traders who can't make good on a contract, which leaves the exchange holding the bag. Penny stocks just aren't worth the trouble for an exchange to list them.

      -jcr

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    7. Re:$1 by nuzak · · Score: 1

      OTC Pink Sheet stocks are already priced to the hundredth of a penny.

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  20. A bad precedent by mark-t · · Score: 1

    Although I'm sure it's crossed many people's minds to do just that, the problem with it is that it sets a bad example for future situations which may arise, where struggling companies might see starting baseless lawsuits with big corporations as a viable way to generate some final revenue, hoping that if they make a pest of themselves long enough that the big company will just get fed up and buy them outright (for a minuscule fraction of what they were asking, so it might look like a real "deal"), and then the owners will just take the money and run.

    1. Re:A bad precedent by gmack · · Score: 1

      You mean take the money and run then Sue for breach of contract for being fired like Dark did to Ikon

      Knowing these guys there are most likely some nasty poison pills waiting in their contracts to bite anyone who fires them.

    2. Re:A bad precedent by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      That's why IBM won't buy them out... they will not only beat SCO, but using counter-claims, grind them into the dust as an example of "this is what happens when you sue IBM".

  21. a good quote: by godzillopiteco · · Score: 1

    Ha Ha!

    --Nelson Muntz [wikipedia.org]

  22. Missing tag by owlstead · · Score: 1

    We must have run out of "haha" tags, 'cause I don't see one (yet). Can someone have a look and see if we got an old rusty one somewhere in the basement? Otherwise, we could borrow a tag from previous SCO or MS related articles.

  23. $0.01 by mangu · · Score: 1

    Suppose share prices could fall without limit. What happens when it reaches $0.01? At that point it cannot fall any further, and the smallest price increase, to $0.02, would bring a 100% profit. This is the ideal pump-and-dump scheme, unscrupulous managers would always try to get the stock price oscillating between one and two cents.

    1. Re:$0.01 by Jonny+do+good · · Score: 1

      What happens when it reaches $0.01? At that point it cannot fall any further, and the smallest price increase, to $0.02, would bring a 100% profit.

      Stocks can trade lower then $0.01. They can trade at fractions. When I watch a streaming stock screen low price shares often trade at the thousandth of a $1 level (usually 1000 shares at $2.225 or somthing like that). People will make trades at thousands of shares at a time at a minimum level hen stocks get really low in price, otherwise it doesn't make sense to pay the fees. I own a stock that was delisted (I never owned too much), now for me to sell it I have to pay about 1/2 the value in a transaction fee so I have just left it as shares, who cares if I lose another $15 or so at this point, I already lost a majority of my initial investment. A single share may not have any realizable value, but if you own 1 million shares valued at $0.001 you still have some value there and in the OTC markets you will run into many stocks valued at fractions of a penny. The bottom limit of shares price (before it truely becomes zero) is $0.01 divided by the maximum number of shares held by any shreholder.

  24. From TFA by DownWithTheMan · · Score: 1
    Just saw this wonderful little tid-bit in the press release

    SCO owns the core UNIX operating system, originally developed by AT&T/Bell Labs and is the exclusive licensor to Unix-based system software providers. To the death they'll defend that claim... And now they're in for a delisting... Let's all keep our fingers crossed until Oct. 22, then it's official!
  25. Historic price by mangu · · Score: 1

    They are still around where they were four years ago. One could say the fair value for SCO stock is around $1, the bubble that sent them above $20 was just a wild speculation about that court swindle they tried.

  26. I don't believe you - show me by hutchike · · Score: 1

    So where's your link to a story backing up you NASDAQ delisting claim for SCO? Sure, it's plausible, but where's the link it sounds speculative.

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    1. Re:I don't believe you - show me by psychokitten · · Score: 1

      How about here?

  27. get the certificates of stocks as war trophies by wganz · · Score: 1

    It would be nice to get a minimal # of stocks and demand that SCO print the certificates of shares for it. Then hang them in the den like people have war trophies of the defeated.

    1. Re:get the certificates of stocks as war trophies by morcego · · Score: 1

      That "minimal #" being 1. There is at least 1 company that allows you to do it. There might be others too, but this is the one I know (I'm not from USA, and don't play on the USA market).

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  28. Buy your stock certificate now! by (H)elix1 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I picked up a handful of SCOX shares the last time they were in danger of delisting. The paper certificates, framed, make for one of the best white elephant gifts in the IT sector. Even more desired than the chia pet or the Apple II people were swapping for. You pay extra to get the paper version, but at least the stock itself is less than a buck.

    1. Re:Buy your stock certificate now! by tinkertim · · Score: 1

      I picked up a handful of SCOX shares the last time they were in danger of delisting. The paper certificates, framed, make for one of the best white elephant gifts in the IT sector. Even more desired than the chia pet or the Apple II people were swapping for. You pay extra to get the paper version, but at least the stock itself is less than a buck.


      I think socks would be more fun as a gift, unless you got one paper certificate and used it to have some toilet paper printed.

      Wipe, send back to SCO , repeat. Wipe, send back to SCO, repeat. One more time : Wipe, send back to SCO, repeat.
  29. Re:Business? (Why are you going to kill UnixWare) by aim2future · · Score: 1
    The Aug 14 2003 I wrote the following to SCO:

    Dear Sirs,

    I'm very disappointed with your actions and claims this summer by attacking Linux and also GPL in the farsighted way you are doing.

    The only logical conclusion I can make from this is that you have decided to kill your own product, UnixWare.

    Whether you win this case or not is not important from that point of view. You have harmed your own business for all future. UnixWare is dead. If you win this case, the freedom in this world is gone. You are creating anarchy, worse than the US patent system causes due to it's unlimited patentability on software and business methods.

    I don't expect an explanation back from you.

    Sincerely yours
    myname
    mycompany

    I actually recieved an answer containing:

    SCO is not trying to destroy UnixWare, we are only trying to protect our
    intellectual property. I'm sorry that this runs contrary to your
    thinking, but when a company's intellectual property is being
    threatened, it has to take action.

    My immediate conspiratory consideration then was that Microsoft gladly supported the trial as it had potential to harm both UnixWare and the Linux kernel, both competitors to MS.

    At that time the Microsoft mix into this were merely rumours but last year their support were more or less proven

    http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=200610080 1442692
    http://www.catb.org/~esr/halloween/halloween10.htm l
    not funny
  30. Reverse stock split by Skapare · · Score: 3, Interesting

    A stock split it normally done when the share price is too high which makes it difficult to trade. This is done by issuing new shares to existing shareholders on a specifically designated date, such that if they previously held N shared, they now hold N*M shares where M is the stock split multiplier. It generally changes the stock price to about 1/M. It usually makes the stock a bit easier to trade, so price will go up a bit just because of the split all else being equal.

    A reverse split can also be done with M simply being less than 1. It can be harder to carry out due to the fractional shares involved. However, I have seen cases where stock splits with M greater than 1 have had non-whole values for M, so apparently brokers understand how to handle this for fractional shares.

    If SCO did a reverse split, it would raise the per-share price. But whether they have enough outstanding shares to even do this is a big question. And it won't change their total capitalization (aside from a very minor price increase from making the shares have an easier to trade price), which might be the real issue, anyway. People with 1 share might end up with 1/5 share (same value ... mostly worthless).

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  31. The trap for surviving the business for long time! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    SCO has the black money that is given by M$ & its co. "The secret Government".

    . SCO has money to pay US$ 1.01-per-action for many years that lives M$.

    . Want you to play?

    . It's terrorific for Wall Street, Nasdaq, !!!.

    . The traps, the priviliged information and the black money are hiddenly permitted.

    . It's the dirty game.

  32. NASH's friends: kill -9 them! zombie processes! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Imagine ...

    I kill SCO => SCO killed => with died SCO, the judge kills IBM => died IBM stops the CELL core productions => it kills Sony PS3, M$ XBOX360, Toshiba HDTV => with they died, they kill Intel and AMD.

    Conclusion:

    SCO, IBM, Sony, M$, Toshiba, Intel and AMD will are killed and died.

    1. Re:NASH's friends: kill -9 them! zombie processes! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      About the NASDAQ machines,

      are they running SCO UnixWare?

      NASDAQ rules, SCO rules, is it a conflict?

      hahahaha

  33. $0.999.. IS EQUAL TO $1 IN THEORY, NOT IN PRACTICE by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Thanks for your theories,

    if SCO shares below $1 and i use your theory then

    how can we kill SCO thanks to your mathematic model with the NASDAQ rules?

    Before, i'm joining many linux people to structure a powerful armed team to kill SCO inside of the market, after to kill M$, after to kill Sun of his pacted friend McNealy, ...

  34. Data point on NASDAQ delisting by adrianmonk · · Score: 1

    Apparently, getting a warning that you may be delisted from NASDAQ is not that earth-shattering a thing, necessarily. Dell is on its second warning now.

    This is not to say it's nothing, but it doesn't by itself mean that the company is going down in flames.

    1. Re:Data point on NASDAQ delisting by nuzak · · Score: 1

      > This is not to say it's nothing, but it doesn't by itself mean that the company is going down in flames.

      Dell is not going to trade below a buck -- Dell got its notice because its filings are deficient. SCO is getting the notice because essentially, SCO itself is deficient.

      In the grand scheme, SCO is a pissant flyspeck that investors don't care about, so no it's not really big news. But it is a rich source of schadenfreude for us folks who have been waiting for this moment going on four years.

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    2. Re:Data point on NASDAQ delisting by darkonc · · Score: 1

      This is not to say it's nothing, but it doesn't by itself mean that the company is going down in flames. True. But in this case, the company *is* going down in flames, and the gunners that shot it down are getting more hits on (what's left of) the flaming fuselage as it gets closer to the (eagerly awaiting) ground.
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  35. Hmm by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So long SCO....

  36. I'm glad I no longer own SCO... by bergeron76 · · Score: 1

    If I still owned SCO stock, I'd be a man and hold on to it until the end. If you unload your SCO stock en masse, it might give them reason to say it was a grandiose conspiracy to get them de-listed.

    That company is shameless (as demonstrated by their actions), and they deserve anything that our government deems appropriate.

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  37. Schadenfreude by Azuma+Hazuki · · Score: 1

    Serves Them Right (TM). I hope they go down hard and painfully.

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