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Cryptome to be Terminated by Verio/NTT

George Maschke writes "Cryptome, a website concerned with encryption, privacy, and government secrecy, has received two weeks' notice from Verio that its service will be terminated for unspecified "violation of [its] Acceptable Use Policy." Cryptome has a history of making publicly available documents and information that governments would rather keep secret. For the notice, and a public response by Cryptome webmaster John Young, see Cryptome Shutdown by Verio/NTT."

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  1. Already down - thanks slashdot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    No need to wait for two weeks to shut down a site. Just submit it to slashdot
    and get it shut down in minutes.

    1. Re:Already down - thanks slashdot by eneville · · Score: 5, Informative

      No need to wait for two weeks to shut down a site. Just submit it to slashdot
      and get it shut down in minutes. mirrored: http://www.mirrordot.org/stories/e231a81023b07bf39 9b68b2c295e9736/index.html http://www.mirrordot.org/stories/deb36db488f175511 ebd77b98603b50f/index.html
    2. Re:Already down - thanks slashdot by johnyoung · · Score: 5, Informative

      Right, Cryptome happily chokes on slashdot, but not to worry, mirrors are available as noted below.

      Cryptome and its affiliated sites will continue with another ISP, in the US or elsewhere. Or if necessary, underground, or via means not easily shuttered, or by way of whatever is invented for opposing technologies of information control (credit to Steven Wright, author of The Technologies of Political Control: http://cryptome.org/stoa-atpc.htm).

  2. Re:any good soul? by rs79 · · Score: 5, Informative

    Why bother?

    I was able to read all of the pages peviously withdrawn with the exception of one (the Irish injunction) in minutes without going to cryptome. The rest of the site can also be found in the usual places.

    If people are dumb to know about things like this I suspect we sholdn't go out of our way to tell them.

    Here's an excerpt from a document withdrawn in 2001:


    UNDERSTANDING AND HELPING INDIVIDUALS WITH HOMOSEXUAL PROBLEMS

    Copyright 1995

    LDS Social Services

    USE OF THE DOCUMENT

    This training document has been prepared for the exclusive use of LDS Social Services to assist staff, interns, and contract providers in their work with individuals having homosexual problems. Because the document is approved only for "in house" use, it should not be reproduced nor distributed to others outside of LDS Social Services.

    UNDERSTANDING AND HELPING INDIVIDUALS WITH HOMOSEXUAL PROBLEMS

    HISTORICAL PERSPECTIVE

    For more than 100 years homosexuality has been a topic of scientific and psychotherapy inquiry and debate. Freud and his contemporaries viewed homosexuality as a deviation or "inversion" of natural psychosexual development, the causes of which being as varied and numerous as the theorists espousing them. According to Freud, the deviation resulted primarily from a distorted parent-child relationship which led the child to reject his or her own gender role and identify with the opposite~sexed parent. This view received considerable empirical support later in this century through studies by Irving Bieber and a number of other researchers (Siegelmm, 1987).


    But! These things hang by a thread. I would posit that people who want them archived should post them to usenet. A lot. In a world where news postings are routinely made into "google ad blogs" there'll be lots of copies on many servers around the world.

    Some people think you can delete things off the Internet. They are fools.

    (Note the invalid copyright notice on the above document. You have to say who it's copyrighted by, not just a date. Of course as an excerpt here for academic purposes it's covered by fair use under US copyright law).

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  3. Re:Every day... by plaxion · · Score: 5, Insightful

    You are coming to a sad realization. Cancel or Allow?

  4. Freedom to dissent? by k1e0x · · Score: 5, Insightful



    We don't allow this kind of dissent in Soviet Amerika. If your not with us your a terrorist.

    Ok so that's a bit over the top but really what's this coming to? Where do we draw the line on Police state America?

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  5. Argh! This sucks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Cryptome has been an indispensable ally in many wars against secrecy, ineptitude, corruption, and evil-doing conspiracies all over the place. John mirrored a couple of separate batches of stuff I had a minor involvement in, and in both cases the world was made (in a tiny way) a less crappy place by his actions.

    It's also a sad day in it's message that there is now, ultimately, no genuine free speech left on the net. If the state really really wants to suppress your message, it can do so. It's slow, labour intensive, and expensive for them to do this, so they don't usually bother; but when they need The System to function, it does.

  6. wrong. by sethawoolley · · Score: 5, Informative

    The Berne Conventions eliminated the need to even post a copyright notice. Copyright automatically falls into the hands of the "creator" the moment it is created.

    if you want to go after somebody with a DMCA notice on something with no notice and no registration, you can easily register the copyright years later, then go after them.

  7. Re:Oer the land of the unfree and the home of weas by NormalVisual · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The ISP just weasely pulls the plug without negotiation just because some guy with a British accent rings up?

    I don't think that's what happened. I suspect what happened was that someone in the US government saw something they didn't like, and sent a National Security Letter or other such silliness to Verio. Verio of course can't legally disclose that, but given that Verio had been always been very forthright with John Young in the past but is being tight-lipped about the situation now, I think it's quite possible that something like this is behind Verio's actions.

    Gotta love living in a nation where the government makes you do their own damn police work against someone else against your will, and then threatens you with jail if you say anything about it.

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