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How Google Earth Images Are Made

An anonymous reader writes "The Google Librarian Central site has up a piece by Mark Aubin, a Software Engineer who works on Google Earth. Aubin explains some of the process behind capturing satellite imagery for use with the product. 'Most people are surprised to learn that we have more than one source for our imagery. We collect it via airplane and satellite, but also just about any way you can imagine getting a camera above the Earth's surface: hot air balloons, model airplanes - even kites. The traditional aerial survey involves mounting a special gyroscopic, stabilized camera in the belly of an airplane and flying it at an elevation of between 15,000 feet and 30,000 feet, depending on the resolution of imagery you're interested in. As the plane takes a predefined route over the desired area, it forms a series of parallel lines with about 40 percent overlap between lines and 60 percent overlap in the direction of flight. This overlap of images is what provides us with enough detail to remove distortions caused by the varying shape of the Earth's surface.'

122 comments

  1. Really? Most people are? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    "Most people are surprised to learn that we have more than one source for our imagery." Must be people who never leave the US border? How can you possibly miss what a hodge-podge of a patchwork Google Earth is? It's especially apparent if you zoom in on a small island.

    1. Re:Really? Most people are? by Wonko+the+Sane · · Score: 5, Funny

      Not to mention those different copyright notices on different parts of the world

    2. Re:Really? Most people are? by ShooterNeo · · Score: 1

      I thought it was all satellite mapping. (for one, the copyright notices usually say 'telesat'). The fact that a lot of it is aerial never occurred to me. However, it makes more sense that the high res photos, at least, are taken from other platforms than satellites.

    3. Re:Really? Most people are? by Gigaflynn · · Score: 1

      "Airplane" was a comedy movie so i guess they meant that they filmed it with the same cameras that they used for "Airplane"

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    4. Re:Really? Most people are? by abanathabla · · Score: 0, Troll

      Just have a look at Sahara. I was expecting a nice view of the desert but it looks like an alien shot through a telescope. NASA makes better pictures of stuff in space.

    5. Re:Really? Most people are? by Proofof.+Chaos · · Score: 2, Insightful

      There's nothing to see in the Sahara. No wonder nobody has taken hi-res photos of it.

    6. Re:Really? Most people are? by Bazar · · Score: 1

      I think what he actually meant, was that Google uses more then 1 medium to collect the images

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  2. Oops - my bad by SpeedyDX · · Score: 5, Funny

    We collect it via airplane and satellite, but also just about any way you can imagine getting a camera above the Earth's surface: hot air balloons, model airplanes - even kites. So THAT'S what the creepy guy in front of the elementary school near my house was doing with the kite and camera. They need some uniforms. I called the cops on that guy. Boy, I bet he had a great time trying to explain himself.

    My bad.
    1. Re:Oops - my bad by jamesh · · Score: 0

      Would it make any difference if he did have a uniform? I'm sure someone really up to no good would have access to uniforms and know how to make it look like they were supposed to be there.

      I probably would have called the cops too. At least they can wander over and have a quick word to make sure everything is legit.

    2. Re:Oops - my bad by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      No, he meant the schoolgirls should have uniforms, 'stead of those loose-fitting low-cut tops the guy was looking down.

    3. Re:Oops - my bad by forkazoo · · Score: 5, Funny

      We collect it via airplane and satellite, but also just about any way you can imagine getting a camera above the Earth's surface: hot air balloons, model airplanes - even kites.

        So THAT'S what the creepy guy in front of the elementary school near my house was doing with the kite and camera. They need some uniforms. I called the cops on that guy. Boy, I bet he had a great time trying to explain himself.

      My bad.


      Hey, don't worry about it, dude. I'm used to it at this point. It was just nice to get out of the house and fly the kite, even if I did get hassled by the cops. By the way, you should really have that mole looked at. And, tell your wife to go with the blue one.
    4. Re:Oops - my bad by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Things are very bad. When was it ever a problem to be taking pictures near a school? In 2000, I worked with a photographer who did freelance work for a local newspaper. He related a story to me about being "hassled" by the police a few years earlier. He parked outside of an elementary school while waiting for his kids to get out. He grabbed his camera and started photographing some of the trees in the area, as it was Autumn and very colorful in the area. Which almost always gets printed in the paper for a small sum.

      When he returned to his car to wait the last few moments for the school to let out, he had a few cops pull up. They approached him. They asked for his ID, which was in his car, but they would not let him approach his car. They questioned him with a very gruff attitude. They made a few threats to him, and they were very unruly. After ten minutes they finally told him why they were harassing him. One of the teachers in the school saw him pull up and and leave his car with a camera. The cops went a bit overboard with him. They did not allow him to identify himself by allowing him to approach his car.

      This "Think of the Children" thing was going to far back then, and it is out of control now.

      A person can walk on the public streets with a camera and take pictures of anything they want. So what if they are near a school or a powerplant. If you want to watch that person, then so be it. But they should still have the freedom to do that. They were not infringing upon the freedom of anyone else, they broke no law. This country needs to realize that The Constitution does not grant you the right to be happy, or to not be offended or annoyed.

    5. Re:Oops - my bad by jamesh · · Score: 1

      Being in a public street with a camera is one thing, but flying a kite with a camera attached over private property (or a school, if you don't count that as private property) is another.

      Sure, some cops go overboard like in your example, but I don't think a friendly policeman approaching our kite flying camera friend and asking for ID just to make sure he's not on a list of registered sex offenders or anything is going overboard.

      We had a policeman knock on our door a few years ago. A car vaguely matching the description of ours was seen leaving the scene of a grass fire. He was quite friendly, explained why he was there, asked if we'd been anywhere recently (I assume he would have put his hand on the bonnet of the car too just to check), chatted about the weather, and then left. Just the way it should be.

      I think the problem in your example was that the policemen were being pricks, not that they they were asking questions in the first place.

      To quote HHGTTG - "It's not easy being a cop".

    6. Re:Oops - my bad by Eivind · · Score: 4, Insightful
      Perhaps, but one problem is that its the same people who are "suspicious" every time, so what may seem reasonable to all outsiders, because whatever behaviour looks fishy, may be a constant nuisance of having to defend ones own perfectly legal actions over and over and over to cops.

      I know a guy, originally from Pakistan, wears typical street-kid clothing, is passionate about biking and have a $10K bike.

      He *literally* has to "explain himself" once a week or more.

      By the 20th time a cop pulls you over and demand that you explain how the hell you're allowed to ride a bike that you, infact, own, you tend to stop thinking that its all that reasonable.

      The problem offcourse is that each individual cop doesn't know that X other cops *also* pulled the guy over this year, so to them it seems reasonable and so its hard for them to see why he can be annoyed and impatient about it.

    7. Re:Oops - my bad by Yvanhoe · · Score: 1

      I probably would have called the cops too. At least they can wander over and have a quick word to make sure everything is legit.

      Maybe it is just me but if something looked fishy (and for me someone putting a camera on a kite is more geek than pervert) I would just have asked him what he was doing.

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    8. Re:Oops - my bad by Dogtanian · · Score: 1

      Being in a public street with a camera is one thing, but flying a kite with a camera attached over private property (or a school, if you don't count that as private property) is another. The question is, where does the area "above" your private property end? Planes fly over houses, and no-one complains about the infringement from that point-of-view.
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    9. Re:Oops - my bad by Proofof.+Chaos · · Score: 3, Insightful

      We had a policeman knock on our door a few years ago. A car vaguely matching the description of ours was seen leaving the scene of a grass fire. He was quite friendly, explained why he was there, asked if we'd been anywhere recently (I assume he would have put his hand on the bonnet of the car too just to check), chatted about the weather, and then left. Just the way it should be. You're right, that's "Just the way it should be."

      I assume you're from the UK, because you used the word "bonnet." I've heard about your friendly neighborhood constables. Unfortunately, in the US, most (not all) cops are on a power trip, and are more interested in harassing whomever they have an excuse to harass, than gaining the respect of the (generally) law abiding public, and preventing real crime.
    10. Re:Oops - my bad by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      list of registered sex offenders

      Let's not even get into how wrong that is.

      I mean if they served there time, then they should not still be treated as criminals afterwards. If they are not "rehabilitated", then they should not be let out, at least not out with the general public.

      I know, I know, prison is not a place of rehabilitation. And of course, since they have been to prison they can no longer participate in elections (except as candidates), which means no one will listen to them when they could possibly help in one way or another.

      One more thing: It should not be easy to be a cop. They should be more righteous than the general public. They should have to jump through a great number of hoops. All to make sure they do not go overboard and harass or infringe on an individuals rights. That is the price of being a cop.

    11. Re:Oops - my bad by Lars+T. · · Score: 1

      No, he meant the schoolgirls should have uniforms, 'stead of those loose-fitting low-cut tops the guy was looking down. You mean they shouldn't be wearing these before middle school? (GP said "in front of the elementary school")
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    12. Re:Oops - my bad by An+ominous+Cow+art · · Score: 1

      The problem offcourse is that each individual cop doesn't know that X other cops *also* pulled the guy over this year, so to them it seems reasonable and so its hard for them to see why he can be annoyed and impatient about it. Be careful what you say, or you'll give someone the bright idea to start a database... :-)
    13. Re:Oops - my bad by HeadlessNotAHorseman · · Score: 1

      Maybe it is just me but if something looked fishy (and for me someone putting a camera on a kite is more geek than pervert) I would just have asked him what he was doing.
      I'd rather let the police do it. If the guy turns out to be some sort of nutjob then I'd rather that he pulled a knife on a police officer than me! Plus, if the guy's intentions are bad, it would hopefully scare him a little to have some cops turn up...with some luck he would be more hesitant in future to do something really bad for fear of getting caught.
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  3. Keyhole was really cool by Animats · · Score: 0

    I had a Keyhole subscription for years before Google bought it, and it was really cool. If all you've seen is the Javascript kludge, you haven't seen the real thing. The real Keyhole application required 3D hardware, could do smooth zooms, tilts, and pans, and showed the world with elevation.

    Google still offers that as a download, but it's not used all that much.

    1. Re:Keyhole was really cool by creativeHavoc · · Score: 4, Informative

      don't confuse google maps with google earth. They have distinct purposes, and excells at them.

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    2. Re:Keyhole was really cool by dickeya · · Score: 5, Informative

      Maybe you should download and try Google Earth which....

      requires 3D hardware, can do smooth zooms, tilts, and pans, and showa the world with elevation.

      Google Earth IS the evolved version of the Keyhole client you referred to.

    3. Re:Keyhole was really cool by JensenDied · · Score: 1

      speaking of keyhole, notpron references this in one of the levels. IIRC the hint involved "keyhole" and coordinates to a shape which describes the user/password to the next level.

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    4. Re:Keyhole was really cool by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Try USING It.

      It is the most downloaded pervasive 3D application in the world.

      It is FREE no subscription required anymore for the basic version. It has vastly better data than Keyhole ever had.

      It has vastly more users than Keyhole's Earthviewer ever had.

      It has way better features than Earthviewer had with PRO features now in the free Google Earth client.

      It has grown in every way imaginable, so STFU, download it and enjoy.

  4. My digital camera does the same thing. by CastrTroy · · Score: 0

    From the sounds of it, I have a digital camera that does pretty much the same thing. You take 3 pictures with some overlap and it's able to stitch them together to make a panoramic shot. It displays part of the previous shot so that you can line up the shots properly for good results.

    It's very easy to see that google gets the images from many sources, because often times you'll go over by 1 KM, and be left with a blurry mess whereas it was crystal clear before.

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    1. Re:My digital camera does the same thing. by kefler · · Score: 5, Informative

      Actually there's no need for a camera's "panoramic" mode any more. Check out Autostitch , a free for personal use program created by researchers at UBC. Essentially you take as many pictures as you want with varying amount of overlap. Each picture can be rotated differently and even vary somewhat in exposure, and this program automatically figures out which ones go where, even throwing out ones that are not part of the scene. It takes a ton of ram and some CPU speed but the result is better than any other method I've seen. Some examples here at the bottom of this page: AZ Snow Pictures.

    2. Re:My digital camera does the same thing. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      You missed the point, genius.

      Google does more than just stitch the images together. The seemingly excessive overlap is used not only to stitch, but to correct for geometric errors of perspective.

      Somehow, I doubt your camera does that too.

    3. Re:My digital camera does the same thing. by networkBoy · · Score: 2

      There never was as all panoramic mode does is crop the image on film to a strip rather than the full frame 35 or 24 mm. If you wanted genuine pano, you either used a panoramic camera which exposed three frames worth of film in one shot, or you took multiple shots with the help of Nikon's tripod adapter that had detents which matched up with several of their lenses (55, 110mm, and IIRC 200mm) focal length. Shoot, move to next detent, etc. I've done 360deg panoramics with that thing. It's awesome..
      -nB

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  5. Powers of ten? by Centurix · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    If a google guy turns up asking to take photos of my neutrons he can kiss my shiney metal ass.

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    1. Re:Powers of ten? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      Actually according to our most detailed imagery, your ass isn't shiny and contains only about 1% metal, mostly calcium, potassium, sodium and magnesium ions. -Google team

    2. Re:Powers of ten? by aonifer · · Score: 1

      My ass is shiny.

      But for the wrong reasons.

  6. Text of (rather short) article by djupedal · · Score: 0

    Google Earth: From Space to Your Face...and Beyond

    By Mark Aubin, Software Engineer, Google Earth

    Would you believe the inspiration for Google Earth was a photo flipbook?

    It was 1996 and I was working at Silicon Graphics (SGI), which was then on the verge of releasing "InfiniteReality" -- hardware for the Onyx workstation that enables people to create graphics with extraordinarily realistic texture. Our goal was to produce a killer demo to show off the new texturing capabilities to maximum advantage. During a brainstorming session, someone passed around the great Charles and Ray Eames book, POWERS OF TEN -- A Flipbook, and suggested that our demo move through imagery the way the book does. After discussing a number of possibilities, we decided that we would start in outer space with a view of the whole Earth, and then zoom in closer and closer.

    We'd begin by heading toward Europe, and then, when Lake Geneva came into view, we'd zero in on the Matterhorn in the Swiss Alps. Dipping down lower and lower, we'd eventually arrive at a 3-D model of a Nintendo 64, since SGI designed the graphics chip it uses. Zooming through the Nintendo case, we'd come to rest at the chip with our logo on it. Then we'd zoom a little further and warp back into space until we were looking at the Earth again.

    We called this demo "Space-to-Your-Face." And after showing it literally thousands of times to people all around the world, it's clear to me that we are universally fascinated with seeing our world from this perspective. During one school group demo, the teachers actually jumped up from their chairs and started pointing to places on the screen as we "flew" over the globe. They were ecstatic. The one comment we kept hearing: I've got to have this for my classroom!

    Only a few years later, advances in computer and internet technology made it possible to deliver high-resolution imagery at sufficient speeds to enable a fluid flythrough on a standard PC anywhere in the world. So I decided to leave SGI and team up with a few others to found Keyhole, where we launched the first digital globe product to stream nearly unlimited, high-quality 3-D imagery over the Internet. In October of 2004, Google acquired Keyhole and Google Earth was born - bringing the kind of content previously available only in government and industry research labs to people everywhere.
    And the story doesn't end there. Once people started using Google Earth, they started asking questions. Good ones. For instance: Why are some parts of the globe blurry, and others crystal clear? Where do you get your imagery? And how often do you update it?

    Most people are surprised to learn that we have more than one source for our imagery. We collect it via airplane and satellite, but also just about any way you can imagine getting a camera above the Earth's surface: hot air balloons, model airplanes - even kites. The traditional aerial survey involves mounting a special gyroscopic, stabilized camera in the belly of an airplane and flying it at an elevation of between 15,000 feet and 30,000 feet, depending on the resolution of imagery you're interested in. As the plane takes a predefined route over the desired area, it forms a series of parallel lines with about 40 percent overlap between lines and 60 percent overlap in the direction of flight. This overlap of images is what provides us with enough detail to remove distortions caused by the varying shape of the Earth's surface.

    The next step is processing the imagery. We scan the film using scanners capable of over 1800 DPI (dots per inch) or 14 microns. Then we take the digital imagery through a series of stages such as color balancing and warping to produce the final mosaic for the entire area.

    We update the imagery as quickly as we can collect and process it, then add layers of information - things like country and state borders and the names of roads, schools, and parks -- to make it more useful. This information comes from multiple sources: commerc

  7. Some tiles too dark by Derling+Whirvish · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I sure wish Google Earth had a way to adjust the brightness/contrast of individual tiles or maybe the view window. Some areas are very dim and need brightness/contrast adjustments.

    1. Re:Some tiles too dark by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      like the nw corner of of the google parking lot in mountain view. how the heck do you screw up something like that?

    2. Re:Some tiles too dark by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
  8. Most people don't think. Period. by EmbeddedJanitor · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Anyone who has thought about this for more than half a second, or has looked at anything more than just their backyard would realise that it is cobbled together from various sources.

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    1. Re:Most people don't think. Period. by glwtta · · Score: 5, Funny

      Dude, you find the oddest shit to be all superior about.

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    2. Re:Most people don't think. Period. by DerekLyons · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Anyone who has thought about this for more than half a second, or has looked at anything more than just their backyard would realise that it is cobbled together from various sources.

      Not only that, but the article strongly implies that Google itself is obtaining the imagery - which is not the case. They buy (or license) imagery from a wide variety of sources. (The folks who take these images tend to retain the rights to them - and resell the imagery as many times as possible.)
    3. Re:Most people don't think. Period. by Bob-taro · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Dude, you find the oddest shit to be all superior about.

      Well put. If a story came out that ... I don't know ... Osama Bin Laden was once a woman, you can bet someone would post "Am I the only one to whom that wasn't patently obvious?"


      The funny thing is, the "patchwork" appearance of less populated areas on Google earth is probably NOT evidence of the photos coming from different sources. You can get very high resolutions from satellite imagery. I always assumed the low-res areas were due to storage limitations of Google's servers - I mean, why store detailed images of every square mile of the pacific ocean?

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    4. Re:Most people don't think. Period. by iamlucky13 · · Score: 1

      When google maps first added the aerial imagery (and Keyhole had not yet been bought out and changed to Google Earth), I remember someone sharing it with me an being excited about seeing their house from space.

      At this point I had already seen and played around a bunch with Microsoft Terraserver and the USGS imagery, so I realized pretty quickly most of the places I was looking at were identical to the USGS aerial photos. It didn't take a rocket scientist to figure out these pictures weren't all taken from a rocket.

      By the way, the thing that boggles me about all the mapping services out there is how they do routes: how do they determine where the roads are (DOT?), how do they store the roads, and how do they calculate driving routes (that often appear to take into account traffic speeds). Stitching together imagery in real time is cool, too, but the general process seems more intuitive to me than creating and using a database of squiggly lines.

    5. Re:Most people don't think. Period. by JayBat · · Score: 2, Informative
      By the way, the thing that boggles me about all the mapping services out there is how they do routes: how do they determine where the roads are (DOT?), how do they store the roads, and how do they calculate driving routes (that often appear to take into account traffic speeds).

      A company called Navteq does a lot of it, and contracts out data and software.

      The New Yorker had a great profile on E-mapping and route finding including a ride-along with a "Ground Truth" team that heads out with their GPS-linked laptop and drives... pretty much everywhere. One key part of ground-truthing (and good directions) is knowing the signage on the route:

      Singh bought a Red Bull and took the wheel. Arcari sat in back with the laptop, ready to note any changes in what they called the "geometry" of the roads.

      "Whenever you're ready, Shovie," he said.

      The first thing the men noticed was a "No Left Turn" sign out of the gas station. "That doesn't go in the database," Arcari said. "That's unofficial geometry, since it pertains to a private enterprise."

    6. Re:Most people don't think. Period. by DerekLyons · · Score: 1

      By the way, the thing that boggles me about all the mapping services out there is how they do routes: how do they determine where the roads are (DOT?)

      An amazing amount of data is available for free (or for a nominal sum) from various govermental bodies. There's even a standard format for it.
    7. Re:Most people don't think. Period. by rofthorax · · Score: 1

      I like the painted lake and golf course near Google headquarters.. I haven't visited in a while, but after seeing features like that, I realized that some parts of google earth are painted.. My hometown, Los Alamos, NM had no detail for a while in the residential and governmental sections.. It does now..

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    8. Re:Most people don't think. Period. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hey, in the twisted words of Forest Gump:

      "superior is as superior does..."

  9. We? by EmbeddedJanitor · · Score: 5, Insightful

    This makes it sound like Google actually did this work themselves with mental images of Googlites flying kites and riding hot air balloons. That is patently untrue. Most of the images in Google earth have come from other sources (government agencies, scanned aerial photos, etc).

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    1. Re:We? by stoicio · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Yes, I agree. There are huge glossing statements that make
      it sound like google actually acquires data.
      This engineer has only a vague idea of how airborne and satellite
      imaging work.

    2. Re:We? by alisson · · Score: 2, Funny

      Pfff, the government works for google. We allllll work for google, just with varying degrees of separation o_o

      Anyway, yeah, it does sort of make it seem like that. "Oh yeah, we just take some kites with cameras on them, and set up a good delay. Ya know, like 30 seconds or so, eh? Then we launch it up real good, and when it comes down, sometimes it's a real good picture, yaknow, eh?"

      Apparently they're all Minnesotan or Canadian.

    3. Re:We? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, shit. The US Govt has been doing this for decades. Most of it is archived here and that's one of the sources that Google uses. It's also pretty safe to say that Google probably doesn't do any of the orthorectification either. MSFT's terraserver used data from the USGS (the first people to see it choke & die from information overload are friends of mine).

    4. Re:We? by laejoh · · Score: 4, Funny

      ... with mental images of Googlites flying kites and riding hot air balloons...

      My mental images consist of Googlites duck taped to the bottom of 747's holding a digital camera...

    5. Re:We? by Shadowruni · · Score: 1, Funny

      It brings a whole new meaning to "I'm a leaf on the wind."

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    6. Re:We? by jsindell · · Score: 1

      I like to think of Googlites, like, with giant eagle's wings. And singing lead vocal for Lynyrd Skynyrd with, like, an angel band. And I'm in the front row and I'm hammered drunk.

  10. "international governments"? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What are "international governments"? Did I miss something? I thougth there were international companies, organizations... but governments... even EU is still a bit away from that.

    1. Re:"international governments"? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You are perhaps confusing inter-national with multi-national?
      Or perhaps it's the idea of a government that has you lost?
      A government is a body for ruling a country. ie, the North American government seems to consist of a retarded God-King named George Bush who always gets what he wants and is surrounded by lackeys and sycophants.

    2. Re:"international governments"? by letxa2000 · · Score: 1

      There is no "North American" government, though there are the three independent governments of Canada, the U.S., and Mexico (and a few others in Central America which are part of North America).

    3. Re:"international governments"? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      nternational (n'tr-nsh'-nl, -nsh'nl) pronunciation

      adj. (Abbr. int. or intl.)

      1. Of, relating to, or involving two or more nations: an international commission; international affairs.

      2. Extending across or transcending national boundaries: international fame.

      Now tell me how a government can extend national boundaries or involve two or more nations? The closest thing you've got is the EU. And maybe the Queen.

    4. Re:"international governments"? by th3rmite · · Score: 1

      There is no "North American" government, though there are the three independent governments of Canada, the U.S., and Mexico (and a few others in Central America which are part of North America). That's what YOU think.

    5. Re:"international governments"? by slysithesuperspy · · Score: 1

      Watch out for the North American Union. It took like 50 years for the EU to get where it is now, so it'll prolly take decades for this too.

  11. Not always so high tech by BandwidthHog · · Score: 4, Interesting

    A friend of mine is a local flight instructor and has done a few flights for Google Maps crew. Perhaps they were just doing specialized by-request work, but in this case it was a dude with an SLR and a big lens shooting out the window of a Cessna.

    I was skeptical too, but that’s what he tells me.

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    1. Re:Not always so high tech by dickeya · · Score: 5, Informative

      Unfortunately, when working with that kind of imagery collection the high tech part is on the processing end.

      You need to:
      1. Correct for lens distortion
      2. Correct for tilt
      3. Correct for terrain distortion
      4. Correct lighting imbalances across the scene
      5. Assign it bounding coordinates of a known mapping coordinate system / projection

      This is the basic process for making an orthophoto. These are generally dealt with using a software package like Erdas Imagine which can deal with all the steps in one swoop. It looks at the lens info, coordinate tie down points, an elevation model and outputs a photo that can be used for linear measurements.

      So anyway, it is possible to accurately georeference many sources of imagery, it just depends how much time you want to spend processing it. If you plan on covering a large area, taking photos out of the window of a Cessna is probably not the best way.

    2. Re:Not always so high tech by Vacardo · · Score: 0

      Never forget your fundamentals:

      1. Correct for lens distortion
      2. Correct for tilt
      3. Correct for terrain distortion
      4. Correct lighting imbalances across the scene
      5. Assign it bounding coordinates of a known mapping coordinate system / projection
      6. ????
      7. PROFIT

    3. Re:Not always so high tech by Jon_S · · Score: 1

      Use GRASS, it's free, and works great for me.

      http://grass.itc.it/grass62/manuals/html62_user/i. ortho.photo.html

  12. April Fool! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Troll

    Did anyone look at the date attached to the article (on its URL or title?) April 1st 2006.

    Nice one Zonk. Not only a year out of date, but a spoof article in the first place.

  13. Tidbits if you're interested by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

    I was one of the Aerometric-Alaska flight operators that took photography in 2006 while on-board a variety of small planes. The film we used was generally Kodak 2444, with 9' x 9' shots. After development, these prints can then be scanned at a resolution comparable to roughly that of an 11 megapixel camera. As the article states, these photos are usually taken in succession with 60% overlap. This is what has allowed people to generate topographic maps for decades, even before complex computer interpolation and computer graphics capabilities were present. Stereoscopic perspective of the same area of land taken from 2 separate angles allows people to determine differences in height, in case anyone has ever wondered how that worked. Nowdays, surveys and digital radar scanning is where most of the information that modern topography uses tends to come from.

    1. Re:Tidbits if you're interested by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sorry, I meant 9" by 9" (inches, not feet) shots. Our cameras were big, but not that big! ;)

    2. Re:Tidbits if you're interested by dunkelfalke · · Score: 1

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  14. Blurred residences on Google Maps in Lexington, KY by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    4275 Athens-Boonesboro Road, Lexington, Kentucky 40509

    Seems an appropriate opportunity to ask the question: Why the fuck is this residence blurred out? It appears to be someone who is a planholder in Kentucky's state health care plan, so maybe they're a powerful state government official:

    http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&client=safari&r ls=en&q=4275-athens-boonesboro&btnG=Search

    BTW, why are the addresses of all Kentucky state planholders publicly available and indexed on Google? That is just pathetic data security...

    Anyway, the same address is accessible (and not blurred) via Microsoft Live!:

    http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&cp=q9wwps7yy j8t&style=o&lvl=2&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&scene=2 023607&encType=1

    And appears to show two residences with pools in the back yard. Nothing to hide. Property records indicate that they were formerly owned by a lawyer named William Hurt, who practices in Lexington but now lives at another address. Given the rather inconspicuous pictures of them at the Microsoft Live flyover, the fact that they're blurred out on Google Maps is even more conspicuous than just showing the pictures of the two houses that are blurred.

    There may be a high-powered state government official living there, but how did they have enough influence to get the pics blurred out? Were they skinnydipping in the pool? I don't think the map would show enough detail to make that a problem. Any ideas?

  15. That's all very nice, but... by hack++slash · · Score: 1

    I still can't see my house on Google Earth, all those corporations etc. complaining about how GE is showing a building site where there's now a building or wotnot and all I see when I look at the area I live in is a patch of blurry green. Sucks.

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  16. Re:Blurred residences on Google Maps in Lexington, by larry+bagina · · Score: 1

    That's weird. Yahoo maps shows it as well, but at a lesser zoom level. That makes me wonder about california. Do they blur out barbara streisand's house? Anybody know her address? :)

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  17. Earth is one big billboard by BillGatesLoveChild · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Google Earth used to be cool, but it's turning into one massive billboard (perhaps one of the ideas all along). In Sydney for Australia Day, Google (and whatever the Microsoft's copy of it is called) did flyovers with huge pre-publicity. People lay out banners, .com wannabees stuck huge logos on their rooves, people picnicked and love-maked all on the hope of becoming 'famous' (with four million other people). Google put it up and at the end of the day, Sydney wasn't Sydney any more. Instead, Sydney was transformed into one big banner ad:

    http://googlesightseeing.com/2007/02/27/australia- day-flyover/

    Then we had the world's biggest photojournalism fakery with Google restoring New Orleans to pre-Katrina. Beyond weird. Did they think the residents wouldn't notice?

    http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/04/02/new_orlean s_demolished/page2.html

    Google Earth is sponsored infotainment. If you'd like to see Earth without the Ads, there's a little mob called NASA I hear are going places: http://visibleearth.nasa.gov/

    1. Re:Earth is one big billboard by xenn · · Score: 2, Informative

      Google put it up and at the end of the day, Sydney wasn't Sydney any more. Instead, Sydney was transformed into one big banner ad: that's funny, in the link you provided they say this:

      So, after hours of combing through the new images, we've found no real examples of private advertising or even any sign that the people of Sydney knew they'd be on Google Maps!
    2. Re:Earth is one big billboard by BillGatesLoveChild · · Score: 2, Informative

      Maybe Google's Army of ex-CIA Photointerpreters were working to a deadline? Or maybe she just means "we looked at a few". Seriously it did happen: Here are photo blogs of expectant advertisers (and one poor sucker who blew $10,000 on a sign they didn't fly over).

      http://blogs.smh.com.au/mashup/archives/009502.htm l
      http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2007/01/29/11699192 56978.html

      Though good luck to the guy from SOS Print+Media! Hahahahahha!

      Google say they're thinking about doing the same over parts of the US on Independence Day. Don't think they'll try it over the UK though: Too many swear words and phallasus. http://www.smh.com.au/news/web/google-spots--crap- circles/2007/02/01/1169919445548.html

    3. Re:Earth is one big billboard by xenn · · Score: 1

      Yeah, ok then. Everything about this is hyperbole.

      ...Sydney was still Sydney that day ... and none of those images you linked to seem to have shown up on google maps...
    4. Re:Earth is one big billboard by BillGatesLoveChild · · Score: 1

      Agreed. Didn't realize it fizzled that bad.

    5. Re:Earth is one big billboard by digitig · · Score: 1

      people picnicked and love-maked all on the hope of becoming 'famous' Any excuse...
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    6. Re:Earth is one big billboard by mgblst · · Score: 1

      Great pick up line tho?

      Hey, so you want to be famous? Alrighty then, get your gear off.

  18. This is not new by ouzel · · Score: 4, Informative

    The process he described is the same process that imaging companies have used since LONG before Google Earth acquired Keyhole. And many of those companies are still doing it. In fact, many of them are the same companies from which Google is now acquiring the imagery used in Google Earth. Does this guy really believe Google is conducting their own overflights and sending up their own balloons? Does Google now have their own satellites, too?

  19. Re:Blurred residences on Google Maps in Lexington, by kimvette · · Score: 1
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  20. Except none of it was captured by Namarrgon · · Score: 1

    Due to weather and difficulty getting local permissions, Google was only able to capture a small part of the Sydney area they planned, and at different times than they'd stated, too.

    As a result, there's no user-created ads visible at all in the new imagery, anywhere.

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    1. Re:Except none of it was captured by BillGatesLoveChild · · Score: 1

      I stand corrected. I read about the angry $10K bannerman and thought he was the unlucky one, but looks like everyone missed out. All Google has is excited blogs about people getting ready and not one saying "look at us":

      http://swiftcity.wordpress.com/2007/01/27/google-m aps-sydney-flyover/

      Shrinking flyzones: No wonder she couldn't find any ads. Maybe they'll get their act together for Independence Day?

      http://blogs.smh.com.au/mashup/archives/009605.htm l

  21. Weighless google photographer by viking80 · · Score: 5, Funny

    If you think a regular flight is boring, you have never been the pilot on a picture taking flight:
    1. You fly straight (GPS and autopilot) for half an hour, then
    2. turn around, and fly back.
    3. Repeat this until the fuel is used up.
    4. Refuel and repeat.

    The only fun thing to do is when you turn: with the google photographer on his stomach with the camera, you do a Chandelle or Wing-over http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aerobatic_maneuver This gives you a few seconds of weightlessness, and with the photographer in the back now floating in the cabin, he smacks on the floor with an "ooommpf" when gravity is reapplied.

    The first few times he complains, but you just tell him you have to do this to properly align the aircraft for the reverse leg of the flight pattern.
    So the routine for the photographer is something like:
    1. click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click
    2. "Whoooooooooo, ooommpf"
    (I wonder if he reads this?)

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  22. Way to knock down what you almost understand. by zippthorne · · Score: 2, Informative

    The camera's mode, at least in Canon's case, is to show an overlay of the pictures already taken in the matrix or panorama you're taking. It's easier to get good, overlapping, easy-to-stitch images if you use the camera's framework to help you set up the shots, and be sure when you've taken enough to fill the planned matrix. As a bonus, the pictures are all tagged as to their position in the final photograph, and all the camera data is recorded for the stitching program.

    IIRC, the actual stitching still happens in software on a PC.

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    1. Re:Way to knock down what you almost understand. by AaronLawrence · · Score: 1

      It also sets the exposure according to the first image and holds it there, so the images are consistent.

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    2. Re:Way to knock down what you almost understand. by Forseti · · Score: 1

      Yes, but the OP's point is that Autostitch seems so good at correcting all those problems, that those stitching modes are no longer required. I've looked at the website and it does look miles ahead of everything else. Can't wait to try it!

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  23. They use a film camera??? by gsasha · · Score: 3, Interesting
    I'm extremely surprised they don't use a digital camera these days. Digital has great quality, and a full-frame digital back of the likes of Mamya, while expensive, pays for itself very quickly if you shoot a lot (and they appear to be doing so continuously). Besides, there would be no need to develop the film and scan it.

    Any ideas why they do so?

    1. Re:They use a film camera??? by DerekLyons · · Score: 4, Informative

      Because (AFAIK) digital cameras don't exist in the large format form factor that [film] cameras for aerial photography uses. Even if they did, from typical aerial photography altitudes digital camera are inferior in resolution to existing films.

    2. Re:They use a film camera??? by eggegg · · Score: 5, Interesting

      I thought film was dead too (or rather, I thought it should be), until we recently had to order 40k acres of imagery at six-inch-pixel resolution, and I talked with the folks who own the cameras and fly the planes.

      When it comes to airplane-based commercial aerial photography, film remains the most wide-spread capture medium. A decent camera can easily cost more than $1 million -- and you'll probably want two to capture stereo pairs, and don't forget a spare. For now, digital cameras are no less expensive and offer few benefits over their film-based bretheren.

      Both require a GPS-controlled platform, capable of shooting several shots a second. After scanning, typical film-based photography is for all intents and delivers a 250+ megapixel result -- the digital alternative to such a beast is not exactly easy to find, and definately not inexpensive. Those are big files tool, and lossy compression is a bad, bad thing. Given the cost of fuel these days, redundancy is essential when it comes to data. That means being able to store four-to-twelve uncompressed (or minimally) 250+ megapixel images on two systems of one type or another, both of which must be rugged enough to withstand their environment.

      Last but not least are the lenses. Outside the world of physics research, the highest quality land-camera lenses, even those in the cinematagraphic world, exhibit far more distortion than is acceptable for survey-grade aerial photography.

      So, you're right. And yes, it sucks. We're betting environmental regulations will probably be the nail in the coffin over the next decade.

    3. Re:They use a film camera??? by barronVonBackstabber · · Score: 1

      My company have two of them and is due to get a third one.

    4. Re:They use a film camera??? by hughk · · Score: 2, Informative

      Both require a GPS-controlled platform, capable of shooting several shots a second.
      Funny that, aerial mapping has been used for a looong time and before GPS. All you needed is a reference point with coordinates and then the rest follows. The old equipment used to put altitude, speed and direction onto the film for later use. Some cameras would take frames but some would in effect take a continuous strip using line-scan techniques.
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    5. Re:They use a film camera??? by chuckymonkey · · Score: 1

      Sure they do, they're mounted on satellites and they do a great job actually.

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  24. Disappearing Islands by G3ckoG33k · · Score: 1

    I was on vacation in Malaysia last year. So, of course, I checked out the tropical paradise island I had been to when I came home. To my my surprise the island had disappeared in those few months, it was no longer available in Google Maps. Q: Should I have more baseless destinations in the future?

  25. Do no evil my ass! by Jugalator · · Score: 4, Funny

    So Google is basically saying that anyone willing to help them out can go fly a kite?

    Hmpf.

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  26. Just a pretty picture by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    While Google Earth's pictures are fanciful I wish they would focus more on refining their geoidal datum. Plotting latidude/longitude coordinates are way off the mark, and seems to vary depending on locale. I also found a number of mistakes that I haven't found elsewhere (indicating source) such as the spelling of a park or name of a building, but Google seems content on ignoring my corrections.

    1. Re:Just a pretty picture by Proofof.+Chaos · · Score: 1

      Yeah, just turn on the bodies of water layer and you will see that it is terrible. It will show the outline of a body of water way off from what you can clearly see is the actual edge of the body of water. sometimes completely outside it.

  27. Gov't conspiracy or smudge? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    Yes, it certainly could be a government conspiracy of some kind. Or it could be a spot of oil on the film. But the conspiracy idea is so much more fun.

    http://www.boingboing.net/2006/09/28/google_maps _reveal_w.html

    1. Re:Gov't conspiracy or smudge? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      On Google Earth (the computer program, not the web version), a rectangular "block" is clearly visible over the two houses if you zoom in far enough, with a little feathering around it to make it appear more rounded. Doesn't look like oil on the film to me.

  28. Adding material to Google Map/Earth by bananaendian · · Score: 1

    I have a 10Mpixel camera and an airplane. If I took a bunch of photos from an area not yet covered by them, would they add them to their Map/Earth for free? Cause flying around and taking photos isnt a great expense - its the processing and orthorectification...

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  29. Earth surface distorts? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This overlap of images is what provides us with enough detail to remove distortions caused by the varying shape of the Earth's surface

    <pedantic>The earth's surface shape does not cause any distortion: it is wat it is. Your method causes distortion in the repesentation of the earth's surface</pedantic>

    Sorry, couldn't resist.

  30. I do hope they have patented this .... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    amazing business procedure.

  31. There's some bits around here which don't line up by Joce640k · · Score: 2

    There's a road going north from here which fades out, reappears 20 yards to the left for 100 yards or so, fades out again and goes back where it's supposed to be, etc.

    Then there's the difference between the terrain height and the images - big lumps in the middle of the sea.

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  32. Or it was some crap on the lense. by Snaller · · Score: 1

    tinfoil hat at the ready.

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    1. Re:Or it was some crap on the lense. by emlyncorrin · · Score: 1

      But have a look at 52 4'51"N, 4 18'24"E, if that's crap on the lens, I'll eat my tinfoil hat...

    2. Re:Or it was some crap on the lense. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What is it there?

    3. Re:Or it was some crap on the lense. by msblack · · Score: 1

      LOL, very funny. That's just a new Microsoft Windows (tm) virus.
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    4. Re:Or it was some crap on the lense. by emlyncorrin · · Score: 1
    5. Re:Or it was some crap on the lense. by trashbat · · Score: 1

      It's Nordeinde Palace in The Hague, one of the Dutch royal palaces. You can see on the normal or hybrid Google map that the gardens to the immediate west are labelled "Paleis Tuin", which means "Palace Garden" in English. You can also see that the building is on Nordeinde, in Den Haag (The Hague).

    6. Re:Or it was some crap on the lense. by Peil · · Score: 0

      From the Google Earth article: Nowadays, Noordeinde is Queen Beatrix's 'working palace'. The majestic Empire ballroom is the setting for receptions and concerts. The view on Google Earth has been scrambled for security reasons.

  33. Idiot by Snaller · · Score: 2, Insightful

    "Then we had the world's biggest photojournalism fakery with Google restoring New Orleans to pre-Katrina. Beyond weird. Did they think the residents wouldn't notice?"

    No, they thought they were intelligent adults instead of idiots. Nowhere in the world is the completely correct (surely not around here) BECAUSE ITS NOT REAL TIME. They get the best quality which is fairly close. Those of us with 3 digit IQ's understand that.

    "Google Earth is sponsored infotainment. "

    Indeed, if you want to find a pizza place you can do it fast.

    "If you'd like to see Earth without the Ads,"

    You just use Google Earth since no adds pop up.

    " there's a little mob called NASA I hear are going places: "

    Not in the real world, they could never afford to make it a worthwhile program.

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    1. Re:Idiot by BillGatesLoveChild · · Score: 1

      How did an abusive troll get modded insightful?

    2. Re:Idiot by sakasune · · Score: 1

      Those of us with 3 digit IQ's understand that.

      Or those of us with 3 digit slashdot UIDs...
      *looks at own UID*
      Ohhh...I'll leave now.

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    3. Re:Idiot by Snaller · · Score: 1

      Because it wasn't a troll, but correct. Possibly rude, but quite correct. Now stop acting like a nazi please.

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  34. big lumps in the middle of the sea? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Those 'big lumps in the middle of the sea' are nothing but humpback whales, you insensitive clod!

  35. add it your self.... by cheekyboy · · Score: 1

    You can add place points, and attach net based jpegs as overlays, you can adjust the size/angle/alpha.
    JUst split your images up and place them in the correct order, then publish the placeholders and any client will see your photos overlayed
    at the right location, if you did it right. I did this to one ski field that was mapped poorly, so I added a plane based aerial photo of it on top. Looks real good
    and great res, and png is not too large.

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  36. Obligatory quote... by Vexler · · Score: 3, Funny

    Deckard: Enhance 224 to 176. Enhance, stop. Move in, stop. Pull out, track right, stop. Center in, pull back. Stop. Track 45 right. Stop. Center and stop. Enhance 34 to 36. Pan right and pull back. Stop. Enhance 34 to 46. Pull back. Wait a minute, go right, stop. Enhance 57 to 19. Track 45 left. Stop. Enhance 15 to 23. Give me a hard copy right there.

  37. Antarctica is poorly mapped... by cheekyboy · · Score: 1

    Antarctia is really badly mapped, I know its no amazon, but it would show of its beauty more.

    Hasnt Nasa mapped it well? Buy it google.

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  38. How often do the maps get updated? by gandy909 · · Score: 1

    Does anyone know how often the maps get updated, or if ever? I started building my new home over a year ago, and have been living in it 7 months now, but the maps of the entire area are still obviously several years old. I know this because there are several entire neighborhoods that have been built up over the last 5 years that are not there either. This is on both Google maps and earth.

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  39. Makes this a little more interesting.... by Tokerat · · Score: 1

    The Leonard P. Zakim Bunker Hill Bridge

    I always figured there simply wasn't an adequate weather for a satellite flyover to get good pictures in a while, but if they can do it with planes, etc...

    Something of the magnitude of the Big Dig is a pretty notable event for a major city, and you'd think they would at least update it for Google Maps' sake. At this point it seems that the maps are correct, but the imagery isn't. Very misleading to those who "don't trust those computer mapping thingamajigs"

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  40. Re:There's some bits around here which don't line by gfreeman · · Score: 1

    Islands?

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