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Why Microsoft Won't List Claimed Patent Violations

BlueOni0n writes "Earlier today, Microsoft announced it will begin actively seeking reparations for claimed patent infringement by Linux and the open source community in general. One opinion on why Microsoft won't reveal these 235 alleged IP infringements to the public is that they're afraid of having the claims debunked or challenged — so instead they're waiting until the OS community comes to the bargaining table. But a more optimistic thought is that Microsoft may be afraid to list these supposed violations because it knows the patents can be worked around by the open source community, leaving Microsoft high and dry without any leverage at all."

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  1. See, you don't even know the real deal by smittyoneeach · · Score: 2, Funny

    This is really about knocking back linux's control of the embedded market through a generalized attack.
    Fuel prices have radically altered the economics, and some of the patents involved will be used in a new invention that will revolutionize the transportation industry.
    Details here:
    http://www.snopes.com/autos/business/carburetor.as p
    When you read that link, remember: False is the new True!

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    Get thee glass eyes, and, like a scurvy politician, seem to see things thou dost not.--King Lear
  2. Interesting speculation by HangingChad · · Score: 2, Funny

    But a more optimistic thought is that Microsoft may be afraid to list these supposed violations because it knows the patents can be worked around by the open source community, leaving Microsoft high and dry without any leverage at all.

    Then why bluster with the threat? It makes them look like SCO and sound like the Iraqi Information Minister. We've got Super Secret IP! We will drive the Linsux invaders into the sea! There are no Linsux soldiers within 150 miles of Redmond! What kind of drugs is Ballmer on?

    Not to mention the scrutiny this case would get by the open source community. Nothing like having an army of volunteers. And you know MSFT actually suing someone would vault them into action.

    They trained on SCO, they're ready for the Redmond Death Cage Match.

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  3. Re:Where's the Cease and Desist? by fmarkham · · Score: 4, Funny

    In Soviet America, Microsoft slaps YOU.

  4. Re:Microsoft has the old IBM playbook... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    The Microsoft version of the playbook is slightly different:

    Microsoft to random corporation: You are violating patents A, B, C, D and E
    Random Corporation: A, B, C, D and E are total BS
    Microsoft: Not to worry. You are violating F, G, H, I, J, K, L, M, N and O.
    Random Corporation: They're BS too.
    Microsoft: Surely there's something worthwhile in this box (rummages in box). How about P, Q, R, S, T, U and V?
    Random Corporation: BS
    Microsoft: W, X, Y and Z, pleeease?
    Random Corporation: Look. IBM had a real research lab that did patentable original research. Yours is just a bunch of people sitting in front of PCs animating paper clips. Now get lost.
    Microsoft: Damn

  5. If you get caught just remember to... by ragefan · · Score: 2, Funny

    Just tell Microsoft, "How about I give you the finger" *give finger* "and you cram those patents right up your ass."

  6. Dear Microsoft, by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny
    Dear Microsoft,



    Bite me.


  7. Re:SCO by Citizen+of+Earth · · Score: 2, Funny

    SCO failed Microsoft... so, as the old saying goes, if you want something done right, you gotta do it yourself.

    Apology accepted, Captain Needa.

  8. Re:Declaratory Judgement by masdog · · Score: 3, Funny

    But while you may be crushed, you will have bought time for hundreds of others to run away.

  9. Obligatory 300 quote by steveoc · · Score: 4, Funny

    In the beginning:

    When this linux-child was born, like all Spartans, he was inspected.

    For the strength of the code lies only in its openness.

    ---oOo---

    The Threat:

    Microsoft Messenger:
    Choose your next words carefully, Leon-ix-idas. They may be your last as king.

    Linux:
    You bring the skulls and crowns of conquered corporations to my desktop, you insult my queen, and you threaten my people with lawsuits and FUD! Oh, I've chosen my words carefully, Microsoft. Perhaps you should have done the same! *kick*

    ---oOo---

    The preliminary skirmishes :

    Microsoft :
    Send in the SCOuts to test the strength of these Spartan defences.

    Linux :
    Our Unix ancestors built this wall. Using ancient stones from the bosom of Greece herself.
    And with a little Spartan help, your Microsoft-sponsored SCOuts supplied the mortar.

    ---oOo---

    The battle:

    Microsoft :
    A thousand lawyers of the Microsoft empire descend upon you. Our patents will blot out the sun!

    Linux :
    Then we will code in the shade !

    ---oOo---

    The aftermath:

    Narrator:
    The world will know that freemen stood against a tyrant, that few stood against many,
    and that before this battle is done, that even a god king can bleed.

    Microsoft:
    WTF happened ? Who threw that chair ?

  10. Re:Where's Novell? by Jarjarthejedi · · Score: 3, Funny

    "That makes sense... Bill Gates makes much more than me, so we should charge him $1,000 for a cup of coffee. Seems fair"

    Are you perchance an IRS officer?

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  11. Re:Declaratory Judgement by sadler121 · · Score: 3, Funny

    Thats like throwing a Level 1 Fighter against a CR 300 Red Dragon and then expecting a dozen or so 5th level fighters to kill said dragon.

    Plus, that would be an evil act. Better hope one of those 5th level fighters wasn't a paladin ;-)

  12. Re:Where's Novell? by 808140 · · Score: 2, Funny

    Loose? LOOSE?

    AAAAARGGGGGGHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!

    Look, it's not hard. Lose (pronounced luz) as in lost. Loose (pronounced lus) as in your mom.

  13. sorry, invalid analogy by Wabbit+Wabbit · · Score: 2, Funny

    Just because there's a shark in a lake filled with trout doesn't mean you drain the lake to kill the shark. You could be one of the trout.

    This is the NEW slashdot. Only bad car analogies allowed. Please rephrase.

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  14. Re:I might respect Microsoft by Trogre · · Score: 2, Funny

    Excuse me but did you just use 'Yahoo' as a verb synonym for 'search'? Are we allowed to do that now?

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    "Nine times out of ten, starting a fire is not the best way to solve the problem." - my wife
  15. Re:Good point. by Chandon+Seldon · · Score: 2, Funny

    IBM's patent portfolio is sufficient to completely drain MSFT's entire operating profit, if they charged all the royalties that they're legally entitled to.

    That'd be really funny. As the saying goes "Live by the sword... ZOMG! They've Got Nukes!"

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    -- The act of censorship is always worse than whatever is being censored. Always.
  16. Some Violations by Tablizer · · Score: 2, Funny

    * Smiley's resemble a side-ways MS-Bob ":-)"
    * When a Linux box crashes (it sometimes happens), it violates MS's BSOD patent.
    * They have a patent on sloppy icons that leak colors thru.
    * Hilighting of misspelled words in word processors. IBM had it first, but they stick it on the list anyhow hoping IBM won't care.
    * When you use any paper-clip, real or virtual...
    * The figure "8" on the keyboard looks like MS-Bob's glasses.
    * Keyboards shipped with some Linux boxes have the Windows key on the keyboard.
    * The Malinda Gates Foundation patented Aids, so Linux users with Aids have to pay up.
    * If your Linux box is near land with grassy, rolling hills, you're violating their wallpaper.
    * The angle of the envelope in the mail icon is 27.43 degrees, exactly the same as in Windows.
    * The parenthesis on the DOS prompt font look too much like angle brackets, so if Linux uses angle brackets, it is violating their parenthesis patent out of association (a complex legal pathway that would take too long to explain to mortals).
    * "Linux" has the letter "n" near the middle of the word, just like "Windows". And an "i".
    * The mascot Penguin's smile looks just like MS-Bob's smile: smug and stupid.
    * Boring packaging is an MS innovation.
    * If you mow your lawn and find your car, you know you are a redneck. Oops, wrong list.

  17. Re:Yeah, great. by init100 · · Score: 2, Funny

    And I have to buy another - unused - OpenBSD cd.

    After a couple of moths, they're back at behaving as jerks as they used to, being rude to their own users and every human being in general.

    Who are you describing, Microsoft or Theo de Raadt? :)

  18. Re:Where's the Cease and Desist? by Kijori · · Score: 5, Funny

    IANAL IAHEP I am not a lawyer... I am hoping to eat ponies?
  19. Re:Where's the Cease and Desist? by stuntpope · · Score: 5, Funny

    "I am hoping to eat... hrmm, a p-word... hrmm... Ponies! Of the things starting with P that I'd like to eat, ponies it is!"

    Yes, this is indeed Slashdot.

  20. Re:Where's the Cease and Desist? by jne_oioioi · · Score: 2, Funny

    I Actually Have Eaten Poop ?