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Will Dell Be Bad For Ubuntu?

vcore writes "Many people are excited for Ubuntu's upcoming release on Dell computers, and while it is certainly good news there are a few causes for concern. Very few details have emerged so far so it is not completely clear what impact Dell with have on the thriving Ubuntu community. But there are questions concerning support, logistics, pricing, and a number of other areas that are affected. From the article: 'Dell is in the practice of filling their computers with large amounts of "bloatware" and also all sorts of co-branding, but it remains to be seen what they will do with Ubuntu. It has been reported that Dell will be shipping a standard version of Ubuntu 7.04...'"

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  1. AOL? by allan_q · · Score: 5, Funny
    Will Dell Be Bad For Ubuntu?

    Like AOL was bad for the Internet?... Oh wait!

    1. Re:AOL? by lostboy2 · · Score: 3, Funny
  2. No, but .. by rs232 · · Score: 2, Funny

    Will Dell Be Bad For Ubuntu?

    As long as Mark Shuttleworth doesn't go and do anything foolish like signing cross-licensing patent deals then a big No, but I can guarantee the MS/Novell/Dell deal will be bad for at least two of those organizations. I leave it to you to figure out who exactly :)

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  3. Re:Answer by LiquidCoooled · · Score: 5, Funny

    Download our Super Super User software to make all your programs run without that annoying password box.
    As an added bonus, we will throw in an instant free to download screensaver*.

    *Screensaver is pay per use, so we can bill you honestly for the time your computer is resting, do not be put off by substitutes who charge a fixed fee no matter how much time you actually use your screensaver.

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  4. You can't see the downside?!! by Mateo_LeFou · · Score: 4, Funny

    Have you *tried making Ubuntu's windows turn sideways 45 degrees so that they kinda look cool and overlap a bit? It takes *hours!

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  5. What if the Open Source Movement made cars? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    We've all heard the joke about how cars would behave if made by Microsoft, but how about if they were made by the Open Source Movement?

    1. The car would come in a kit, and would have to be assembled by hand.

    2. The instructions for assembling it would be free, but so poorly written you'd have to hire specialists, who would in the end cost more than a Microsoft car

    3. The gearstick would be designed by EMACS fans. It would be powerful, and feature rich, but changing gear would be an 18 step process designed for a driver with 4 hands.

    4. If the passenger wanted to read a map, he'd have to enter the driver's seat in order to get permission.

    5. The steering wheel would be gone. In its place, an "innovative" interface designed by the Blender and Gimp teams, consisting of 2 dead fish and a broken plastic spatula.

    6. Richard Stallman would insist the vehicles be described as GNU/Cars.

    7. It would be broken into as frequently as Microsoft cars, despite it's much touted security claims. Joe Sixpack couldn't be bothered to lock the door on his MS car, and he can't be bothered to lock it on his GNU/Car.

    8. In car entertainment would consist entirely of items cloned from Microsoft.

    9. Your grandmother wouldn't be able to drive it.

    1. Re:What if the Open Source Movement made cars? by UbuntuDupe · · Score: 2, Funny

      And the setup procedure, if it was anything like mine, would go like this:

      "Okay, I'm ready to assemble the car in my garage. Do I need the garage door opener?"
      "Nah, not really necessary."
      Then when I'm about done putting it together, a message would say "closing the garage door is HIGHLY RECOMMENDED". I'd close the garage door.
      Then the car would fail to start. Oh crap. Well, I'll go inside my home and get my computer and ask for help.
      Wait, the door's locked. HOW CAN THE DOOR TO MY HOME BE LOCKED? "Linux cars may lock your home doors."
      Okay, fine, I'll just open the garage door by pressing this switch. "Linux cars may disable your garage door button."
      Fine, I've got the garage door opener ... wait ... I didn't bring it because they said I wouldn't need it.

      AH! Good thing I remembered by cell phone.

      "Oh, you had startup error 25? First, drive it around the block a little."
      "Um, you do realize it can't start, right?"
      "Well, go pick up a Live CD."
      "I can't leave my garage."
      "Why not?"
      "Because the Linux car disabled the controls."
      "Well then use the portable opener."
      "UM ... you guys said I wouldn't need it."
      "Then just download a Live CD."
      "I can't get to my computer."
      "You downloaded the assembly instructions, how can you not download a Live CD?"
      "Because I'm locked in my garage, remember? Because I used one of your cars?"
      "Hey, this help is free, don't bitch. Besides, once the engine's running, you can access the Live CD."
      "Um ... I'm calling because the car won't start in the first place."
      "Alright, just get your old car's manual."
      "I haven't looked at that thing in ages ... I don't even know where it is."
      "Oh, well ... um ... we don't really help car thieves. Now, if you want to watch DVD's in your Linux car..."
      "I give up."

    2. Re:What if the Open Source Movement made cars? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      Some of that was not entirely fair, but I thought #5 was fsking hilarious. To add some:

      > ...consisting of 2 dead fish and a broken plastic spatula. Long time users of the dead fish and spatula interface will insist that it's really much faster than the traditional interface, and will fight to the end of the earth to resist design changes. The fish and spatula will be fastened in place with a 10 year old framework initially built for a dog sled.

    3. Re:What if the Open Source Movement made cars? by 5c11 · · Score: 2, Funny

      6. Richard Stallman would insist the vehicles be described as GNU/Cars.

      As long as they have that GNU/Car smell...
  6. The correct answer... by DoofusOfDeath · · Score: 3, Funny

    I'm a ninja?

  7. Re:Linux? Sorry, no. by meringuoid · · Score: 2, Funny
    The lack of simple installer packages is one thing that could be changed.

    Maybe you could set up a system of download repositories containing vast collections of open-source software, and include with the distribution a GUI app which would make installing such software as easy as selecting it from a menu...

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  8. Re:A tale from Bulgaria. by coren2000 · · Score: 5, Funny

    I have 4 fertile eggs, from those eggs I'll grow 4 chicken. Those chickens will give eggs, and they'll grow into chickens too.
    The moral of the story is that you dont need roosters in Bulgaria.
  9. Re:I switched at home by Hijacked+Public · · Score: 5, Funny

    The Vista installer is just fine, apart from the fact that it installs Vista.

    Compared with XP it is 'prettier', asks fewer questions, and can slipsteam updates on its own. I never did try it on blank disk (not formatted with any file system). The XP installer not being able to continue without one was always annoying.

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  10. Re:Bloatware is common by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Hopefully it will be a simple matter of typing:

    # apt-get remove bloatware

  11. Re:Linux? Sorry, no. by teknokracy · · Score: 2, Funny

    Try explaining that to your grandmother over the phone. It might be impossible in Win but frankly I'd take the inability, over having to spew out lines of commands. Dell will NOT sell systems with Linux on them. When ordering, Grandpa Joe will ask "what's a Linux". The Dell rep will reply "well, it's this different operating system". And grandpa joe says "what's an operating system".

  12. Re:I switched at home by ArsonSmith · · Score: 2, Funny

    So when linux becomes the Goliath am I suppose to switch and start cheering for Microsoft? I just wouldn't feel right going with the majority.

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  13. Re:In a word.... YES by Tatisimo · · Score: 3, Funny

    If we had flying cars, my kitty would be safe, but my parrot would dead...

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  14. BS by WindBourne · · Score: 3, Funny

    Years ago, I could have done it in 30 minutes or less. Just give a 5th of JD and the windows were absolutely guaranteed to be in various degrees of sideways and even upside down.

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  15. Re:I switched at home by TheDarkener · · Score: 2, Funny

    That's the beauty though - you can just root for another Linux distro, like Gentoo.

    The leeter we go!

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  16. Re:I switched at home by brunascle · · Score: 4, Funny

    nah BSD.

    i swear the BSD folks are just sitting there, waiting for Linux to become mainstream so they can become the token elite.

  17. Re:I switched at home by camperdave · · Score: 2, Funny

    i swear the BSD folks are just sitting there, waiting for Linux to become mainstream so they can become the token elite.

    I thought the BSD folks *WERE* the token elite, and us Linux folks were the wanna-bes.

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  18. Re:A few points by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    1) Exposure to something, whether good or bad, is good.

    Spoken like a true goatse.cx conneseur, sir.