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NY Stock Exchange Moves To Linux

An anonymous reader writes "Even the old mainframe strongholds, the financial markets, are moving away from big iron. The New York Stock Exchange is one of them, as it's leaving the mainframe for AIX and Linux. They're doing it to save money; it seems that transactions are going to cost half as much on Unix and Linux as they did on the mainframe." The first phase of the transition happened last Monday.

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  1. Meme wet dream by MrNaz · · Score: 5, Funny

    In Soviet Russia, Linux-running, chair throwing, Beowulf clusters of shark overlords with laserbeams on their heads welcome you, you insensitive clods!

    Cancel or Allow?

    Wait, what are we talking about again?

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  2. Moves away from big iron is more accurate by Timesprout · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The bulk of the savings seem to be coming from reduced hardware and maintenance costs by getting rid of the mainframe and the savings are the reason they are doing it.

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  3. Really? The NYSE? by name*censored* · · Score: 5, Funny
    >>They're doing it to save money

    Really? The NYSE aren't doing it purely support the FOSS community? Dang, and I thought I knew the NYSE better than that..
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  4. hmm by nomadic · · Score: 4, Interesting

    What about stability issues? I'd think that these machines would have to be a little bit more robust than linux is capable of being at the moment.

    1. Re:hmm by xzvf · · Score: 5, Insightful

      That's a good question, but on Wall Street, speed and latentcy are becoming more importantant factors than stabiltiy. That's the reason why most brokerages locate their primary data center in Manhatten, or co-locate with the NYSE. A crash that effects everybody equally is preferable to odd processing delays. No data is better than slow data is an old mantra in the trading feild, and even more important when trading is triggered electronically and milliseconds count.

  5. Begin the invasion by Spookticus · · Score: 4, Funny

    Thats one small step for penguins, one giant leap for penguin kind. Now I can invest in Linux companies while I am doing it on a Linux machine and the transaction being processed by Linux :)

  6. Re:That ad about Windows on stock exchange by UbuntuDupe · · Score: 5, Funny

    Windows isn't more reliable ... but the programmers might be a little more sympathetic to user needs ...

    "Okay, so how do I register the exchange of a convertible bond on Linux?"
    "Er... why would you want to do that?"
    "Um ... just trust me on this one ... people like them."
    "Well, what's a convertible bond?"
    "It's where the holder gets a fixed interest payment and then at maturity, has the option to get a fixed amount of cash, or a fixed amount of stock, his choice."
    "That's stupid, you don't need that."
    "Um, look, dude, people trade them, so the software has to handle it."
    "Well, that's really just a bond attached to a stock option. So just enter it that way."
    "Yeah, but in the financial world, it's one transaction."
    "Okay ... so when someone buys one, register an 'option purchase' plus a 'bond purchase' by going under this menu ... then use this 'merge' feature ..."
    "Holy **** dude, this is a common transaction, why do I have do go through all that every time someone buys a convertible bond?"
    "Well, people don't even really buy them that much, do they?"
    "I give up."

  7. Licensing Fees by Ngarrang · · Score: 4, Insightful

    In my brief experience with an IBM AS/400 (before it was renamed), it seemed like my old company was paying as much annual licensing and support fees as the system originally cost. The software we ran got more expensive as the system went faster. I never quite understand that pricing scheme, since the software didn't actually do anything NEW.

    Good move for the NYSE.

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    1. Re:Licensing Fees by Clover_Kicker · · Score: 4, Interesting

      IBM will support your old hardware almost forever.

      They don't enjoy it, though - they have to stock a zillion old parts for a zillion old architectures, they have to train new guys on stuff that was obsolete before they got out of diapers.

      They gradually crank up maintenance fees to "encourage" you to upgrade to new kit that is easier to support.

  8. NY Stock Exchange Moves To Linux by robably · · Score: 4, Funny

    In case anyone needs to look it up, Linux is in Eastern Europe between Serbia and Romania.

    Happy to help.

  9. Wonder if someone really dropped the ball. by Kadin2048 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Well, the migration strategy seems interesting, although not especially surprising; they've eschewed emulation strategies that might incur a performance penalty in favor of some company that actually recompiles the old COBOL and IBM JCL code for modern architectures and does a lot of in-house QA (and, one assumes, has really good support...). They're using smaller IBM AIX servers to actually run the code in the new system, with the HP Linux machines basically doing all the I/O and general feeding of data.

    I'm a little surprised that IBM didn't manage to sell them on a new mainframe, or at least on its own clustered solution; or that they didn't ditch IBM completely and go with somebody else (what I'd suspect if somehow someone at IBM had really stepped on the wrong foot).

    There's not a whole lot of information in TFA about their old system, which actually sounds like it must be fairly neat; it's only described as a "1,600 MIPS mainframe" and then from context it's clear that it's an IBM of some sort. Another surprising thing is that they complain that the software licenses for it, among other things, are prohibitively expensive -- you'd think that IBM, in danger of losing a mainframe customer completely to commodity kit, would cut them some sort of a cheap-or-free deal on the software just to keep them around and on the support contracts. (I really gotta wonder if someone really boned this up; I mean, if you can't keep a mainframe contract at a place like the NYSE, really, what are you doing?)

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  10. Re:TWNBWFM by jstretch78 · · Score: 4, Funny

    No, he just wanted to use the word 'bode'.

  11. To quote Keanu Reeves, "Whoa" by smooth+wombat · · Score: 4, Interesting
    To test Clerity, Feldman and his team collected some batch and CICS application code, sent it to Clerity and said he would be at Clerity's development center in 24 hours to see the results. Clerity passed.


    Now that's service. I realize it's only compiling one code into another form but being able to take the code, compile it into what you need AND still have it work correctly in a 24 hour period is no easy feat.

    If nothing else, other firms will look at this migration to an aix/linux platform and see the cost benefits of doing so. After all, if the NYSE has done it, it can't be a bad thing.

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  12. Re:That ad about Windows on stock exchange by Lehk228 · · Score: 4, Funny

    the windows version just assumes if you select cash once to always do cash, unless you edit the registry key autoSelectMaturityAction to false

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  13. It's Ironic... by saudadelinux · · Score: 4, Insightful

    ...that the OS so many think of as some kind of IP-lethal, grubby commie hippy project is now running a goodly part of Capitalism Itself. The worm has turned, and eats itself!

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  14. They are not "moving to Linux" by parvenu74 · · Score: 4, Informative

    I know that it's optional around here to RTFA, but the original poster is wrong to title this entry as a move to Linux: this is a primarily move from mainframe to AIX on pSeries, with a few other tasks (FTP) being tossed to Linux like you'd throw a dog a bone. Using this lack of logic, it would be plausible to suggest that the NYSE is "moving to Mac OS X" because a few people in the advertising and marketing department use Macs for their jobs. I realize this isn't Rolling Stone magazine, but the lack of journalistic quality control here at /. is pathetic.

    1. Re:They are not "moving to Linux" by mrbooze · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Not only that, but the pSeries boxes practically *are* big iron. They're basically smaller mainframes that run AIX and linux virtual machines.

      So I would say they're moving from Venti Iron to Grande Iron.