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Experts Now Say JFK Bullet Analysis Was Wrong

Spy Handler writes "Researchers analyzing bullet fragments from the 1963 Kennedy assassination using new techniques say that the government's 1976 conclusion that the bullets came from only one gun (Oswald's) is wrong. 'Using new guidelines set forth by the National Academy of Sciences for proper bullet analysis, Tobin and his colleagues at Texas A&M re-analyzed the bullet evidence used by the 1976 House Select Committee on Assassinations, which concluded that only one shooter, Oswald, fired the shots that killed Kennedy in Dallas. The committee's finding was based in part on the research of now-deceased University of California at Irvine chemist Vincent P. Guinn. He used bullet lead analysis to conclude that the five bullet fragments recovered from the Kennedy assassination scene came from just two bullets, which were traced to the same batch of bullets Oswald owned.'"

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  1. Get your tinfoil shelters out. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    Time travllers came back and fired invisible bullets from the grassy knoll.

    1. Re:Get your tinfoil shelters out. by throup · · Score: 2, Funny

      So you've been watching Red Dwarf recently too, have you?

    2. Re:Get your tinfoil shelters out. by Rude+Turnip · · Score: 5, Funny

      No, that's not right...Chuck Norris' beard actually deflected the bullets in a *failed* assasination attempt. Kennedy's head exploded out of shear amazement.

  2. JFK, blown away. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    What else do I have to say?

    1. Re:JFK, blown away. by DrDitto · · Score: 4, Funny

      Moderating this as "Funny" is sick.

    2. Re:JFK, blown away. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      What, too soon?

  3. Re:Finally by untaken_name · · Score: 4, Funny

    I wouldn't hold my breath if I were you.

    You'd be really blue after 44 years even if we did find out the truth then.

  4. Then who did it? by rice_burners_suck · · Score: 1, Funny

    Then who did it? CowboyNeal?

  5. Oh good grief by $RANDOMLUSER · · Score: 4, Funny

    He's dead - get over it. Marilyn Monroe: dead too. Elvis: him too.
    Get over it.

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    1. Re:Oh good grief by niceone · · Score: 4, Funny

      Yeah, yeah, JFK and Monroe, sure. But not Elvis.

    2. Re:Oh good grief by RoaldFalcon · · Score: 2, Funny

      Yeah, yeah, JFK and Monroe, sure. But not Elvis.

      OK, people. Let's get this straight. Elvis is dead. Period. He's been dead since 1991. Otherwise the US Postal Service would never have made a stamp with him on it. Best as I can figure, the CIA must have told the USPS about his demise as soon as it happened.

  6. Re:seriously by UbuntuDupe · · Score: 4, Funny

    In my defense, I rejected the official story on the grounds that the Freemasons had to be involved. So I'm immune from criticism.

  7. In other news by niceone · · Score: 4, Funny

    The researchers believe that the chunk of "grassy knoll" they found among the fragments might also be significant.

    1. Re:In other news by grassy_knoll · · Score: 2, Funny

      The researchers believe that the chunk of "grassy knoll" they found among the fragments might also be significant.


      I'll have you know I'm not missing any chunks.
  8. I can hear it now by LordKaT · · Score: 3, Funny

    I can hear it now ... somewhere Bill Hicks is giggling to himself.

    1. Re:I can hear it now by dr_dank · · Score: 4, Funny

      I was just down in Dallas, Texas. You know, you can go down there and to Dealey Plaza where Kennedy was assassinated. And you can actually go to the sixth floor of the Schoolbook Depository. It's a museum called ... "The Assassination Museum". I think they named it that after the assassination. I can't be too sure of the chronology here, but ... anyway, they have the window set up to look exactly like it did on that day. And it's really accurate, you know, 'cause Oswald's not in it.

      - Bill Hicks

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  9. Re:Zapruder film by techpawn · · Score: 2, Funny

    Back... and to the left... Back... and to the left...

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  10. Chuck Norris Killed JFK by Skeetskeetskeet · · Score: 1, Funny

    Further analysis of the ballistics and stop-motion digitized frames of the famous Zapruder video clearly show that in the frames immediately before the supposed "bullet" that killed JFK Mr. Norris is seen diving into the view of the camera and stopping Oswald's bullet with his beard before it hit the President.

    Subsequent analysis shows that JFK's head exploded in sheer amazement of Norris' ability to stop the bullet.

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  11. Re:I really wonder if this is just by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    Whoa, it's a meta-conspiracy.

  12. Re:Zapruder film by airen9 · · Score: 3, Funny

    "...back and to the left, back and to the left. Which, by the way, that action you see Kennedy's head go through in the Zapruder film - caused by a bullet... [points behind him] comin from up there, ha. Yes, I know it looks to the layman or someone who might dabble in physics... This action here would be caused by a bullet coming from... Well... [thinks] Up here, did you see that? Did everyone see that? Yeah, but no. What happened was Oswald's gun went off, causing an echo to echo through the buildings of Dealey Plaza and the echo went by the limo on the left up into the grassy knoll hitting some leaves causing dust to fly out which 56 witnesses testified was a gun shot, cos immediately... Kennedy's head went over. But the reason his head went over is cause the echo went by the motorcade on the left and he went "What was that?" "

  13. Re:seriously by Hijacked+Public · · Score: 4, Funny

    Unless, of course, the Discovery documentary you watched was a propaganda piece carefully orchestrated by the FBI (or whomever) specifically designed to make you think that the magic bullet people are wrong so that you will dismiss their arguments and accept the official story!

    You'll have to pardon me for that, the X Files movie is available On Demand on my cable system and I keep watching bits and pieces of it.

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  14. Re:Does anyone really care anymore? by jcronen · · Score: 2, Funny

    I was going to make the same point, but then I saw that the next article down on the main page is entitled "Does Zelda Need an Overhaul?" and realized Slashdot is the wrong forum to decide what is useful and what isn't.

  15. Re:MOD PARENT UP by jfengel · · Score: 4, Funny

    Your statement implies that they were ever going to RTFA. I find that a rather bold and unwarranted conclusion.

    We're Slashdot: we already know everything we need to know. We're just waiting for everybody else to find it out.

  16. Re:Finally by RockoTDF · · Score: 2, Funny

    In addition, the US Military would not kill their own like that, or attack their own headquarters. To me that is what ultimately debunks 9/11 conspiracy theories.

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  17. You think *that's* puzzling? by Bearpaw · · Score: 2, Funny

    There was this guy (I forget his name) executed for some crime a couple of thousand years ago, and there are multiple organizations, big and small, arguing about that. Heck, sometimes they even get to killing each other over it. Go figure.

  18. Huey Long shot by own body guard by Latent+Heat · · Score: 5, Funny
    There is one screwball theory upon which I read a book about (yeah, yeah, there are books and books on this). The theory is that the kill shot was from an accidental discharge of a Secret Service AR-15.

    Yes, Oswald was up in his sniper's nest in the Book Repository building and popped off some shots, and his was the "magic bullet" that wounded the President and Governer Connely. As to the bullet being pristine, there is this thing about full-metal jacket military bullets that are supposed to go through you instead of fragment or mushroom, and it was not pristine but rather deformed, and high-energy 22 cal bullets can take strange paths through body tissue.

    The big mystery is how Oswald could have popped off the "single bullet" and then the kill shot -- was he that good a marksman at a moving target or was he lucky and the rest of the world so unlucky? The theory is no, the kill shot came from somewhere else -- the commotion of the shooting, a Secret Service agent dropped what was at that time an experimental AR-15, the thing discharged (in front and below the President), and the peculiar ammo inflicted the horrific, fatal wound on the President.

    Government coverup? You bet! How could the government admit to the President being killed by his own bodyguards, althought that is what happened to Huey Long -- also an accident. Oswald the lone killer? Also true -- that the fatal shot was an accident in response to someone trying to kill the President doesn't let Oswald off the hood.

  19. Re:seriously by Himring · · Score: 3, Funny

    I saw that too. I've seen lots of documentaries. You need to watch more. They failed to mention, at all, the umbrella man or the hail-fist man who signal just prior to the first shot. They failed to mention, entirely, the photographic work done on the grassy gnoll wherein images of a shooter and an american soldier are discovered verifying the soldier's original testimony (he was even interviewed recently and is a highly credible witness). It failed to mention the dozens and dozens of witnesses who claimed "secret service" agents confiscated their cameras and video cameras 'as part of the investigation.' It failed to mention at all the train station operators who testified to seeing strange construction workers opening toolboxes and pulling things out and then walking onto the grassy gnoll. That show you mention even had a guy pull out Oswald's shooters score book from the marines showing what an incredible shot he was, yet you can find evidence with google proving Oliver Stone's assertion that other marines said he had "maggies drawers" and/or was a poor shooter overall. They had simply pulled out a few instances of good shooting he had for your show. They failed to mention Johnson's comments on the event with a "well, if it's a war they're wanting I'll give it." They failed to mention how the secret service did many, many odd things that day that allowed the shooting to happen.

    For every documentatary and book stating it was Oswald only there are opposite documentaries and books stating otherwise. Don't believe everything you see, read and hear on one source alone. Come on now, you are the post 9/11 crowd. Use your head.

    John F., Bobby, MLK, all of those shootings were too convenient, too easy and too mysterious to be so cut and dry.

    Stone made a movie, and he made one hell of a one. It still stirs up controversy. That documentary you saw was meant totally to discredit the movie, JFK, and Stone. It appears to have one at least one convert....

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  20. Re:Finally by Brad+Eleven · · Score: 5, Funny

    I could go on and on and on and on.
    Ehhhh, you kind of did.
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  21. This ISN'T the truth - JFK was killed by bears by Valacosa · · Score: 2, Funny

    This still isn't the truth. The truth is JFK was killed by bears from space.

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  22. You are the conspiracy! by KDN · · Score: 3, Funny

    JFK IS NOT DEAD. The CIA cloned him and that was what was really shot. He faked his death so that he could live with Marylon Monroe, who also faked her death, and they are currently living on Cuba as a guest of Fidel Castro with their good friend Jimmy Hoffa.

    A fake conspiracy of who really killed JFK was drawn up to give the nut jobs who think everything is a conspiracy something to chew on, leaving just enough evidence to keep them going. To manufacture the evidence the Borg brought back a federation replicator which is powered by a V8 with a 500 mile per gallon carbarator with those tablets that convert water into fuel.

    If it seems like Deja-vu, its just another gliche in the Matrix.

  23. Re:seriously (as in "heart attack") by The_REAL_DZA · · Score: 4, Funny

    Dude, if you think the X-Files movie being available On Demand at the same time this research has come to light is merely a coincidence then you might want to get that wool off your eyes before you fall down and have an "accident".

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  24. Re:Not "wrong"... Just "not proven" by cayenne8 · · Score: 4, Funny
    "Of course it's all the other problems with the official story that naturally push my mind in the direction of there being multiple shooters upon finding out that the proof of the single shooter was incorrect. But I still didn't take the summary as implying that this was now proven."

    Maybe now, FINALLY, the truth will come out!!

    That Oswald was really trying to be a hero, and shot only at the sniper he saw hiding in the grassy knoll!!

    (with apologies to Family Guy)

    :-)

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  25. Oblig Full Metal Jacket Quote by Hoi+Polloi · · Score: 3, Funny

    HARTMAN: Do any of you people know who Charles Whitman was?
    No response
    HARTMAN: None of you dumbasses knows?
    COWBOY raises his hand.
    HARTMAN: Private Cowboy?
    COWBOY: Sir, he was that guy who shot all those people from that tower in Austin, Texas, sir!
    HARTMAN: That's affirmative. Charles Whitman killed twenty people from a twenty-eight-storey observation tower at the University of Texas from distances up to four hundred yards.
    HARTMAN looks around.
    HARTMAN: Anybody know who Lee Harvey Oswald was?
    Almost everybody raises his hand.
    HARTMAN: Private Snowball?
    SNOWBALL: Sir, he shot Kennedy, sir!
    HARTMAN: That's right, and do you know how far away he was?
    SNOWBALL: Sir, it was pretty far! From that book suppository building, sir!
    The recruits laugh at "suppository. "
    HARTMAN: All right, knock it off! Two hundred and fifty feet! He was two hundred and fifty feet away and shooting at a moving target. Oswald got off three rounds with an old Italian bolt action rifle in only six seconds and scored two hits, including a head shot! Do any of you people know where these individuals learned to shoot?
    JOKER raises his hand.
    HARTMAN: Private Joker?
    JOKER: Sir, in the Marines, sir!
    HARTMAN: In the Marines! Outstanding! Those individuals showed what one motivated marine and his rifle can do! And before you ladies leave my island, you will be able to do the same thing!

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  26. Re:seriously by hajus · · Score: 3, Funny

    So that's how it got on her dress...

  27. Re:Not "wrong"... Just "not proven" by grassy_knoll · · Score: 4, Funny

    That Oswald was really trying to be a hero, and shot only at the sniper he saw hiding in the grassy knoll!!


    There was no sniper on the grassy knoll.

    [eyes shift back and forth]

    ps: dont look at my user name. ;-)
  28. Don't blame the mods by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    Moderating this as "Funny" is sick.


    We didn't start the fire.
  29. Re:Finally by tehshen · · Score: 2, Funny

    Maybe it was liquid tinfoil.

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  30. Re:Finally by that+this+is+not+und · · Score: 2, Funny

    I don't argue with my dog. I roll up a newspaper and tell him to shut the hell up.

    I wish it were that easy with the kind of nuts who deal in this kind of conspiracy. Then again, I actually married a woman who believes the Moon Landing was a hoax.

  31. Re:Finally by dave1791 · · Score: 2, Funny

    Hey!

    I'm a member of the Illuminati and I have to fess up that we did not do that one. It was the Freemasons.