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Spyware Maker Sues Anti-Spyware Maker
prostoalex writes "An 'online media company' Zango, which gained notoriety for redirecting adult affiliate traffic and the first ever MySpace worm, is now suing the anti-spyware vendor PC Tools, maker of an application called 'Spyware Doctor', for removing Zango applications off the consumers' PCs. 'According to a posting on a blog called Spamnotes.com, Zango is seeking at least $35 million in damages, alleging that Spyware Doctor removes Zango's software without warning users that it will be deleted. The lawsuit was filed Tuesday in King County Superior Court in Seattle, according to Spamnotes.com. Formerly known as 180solutions, Zango is trying to clean up its tarnished reputation. In November it paid $3 million to settle U.S. Federal Trade Commission charges that its software was being installed deceptively on PCs.'"
How the hell can a company that bases it's business on 'sneaky' software installs complain about 'sneaky' software removal. It isn't even sneaky at that, those people put anti-spyware software on their PC to recieve a desired result. In any event, the pot can't call the kettle black.
alleging that George W. Bush is interfering with Bin Laden's rights to advance the agenda of fundamentalist Islam
Alleging is right. Because GWB isn't actually interfering now.
GWB was, but only for a year or so after 9/11.
For the same reason censorship and copyright enforcement is hard on the Internet, apparently killing spam, scam, phishing and spyware companies is quite much harder than their "real life" equivalents.
(Internet spanning the whole globe, while the laws aren't, decentralization, anonymity, vague and undetermined terminology and legal status of various online activities etc.)
You gotta know though, this is all going on because the Internet is so young. If the beaurocrats in the various countries get their act together, in 30-40 years such abnormalities as a spyware distirbutor suing antispyware distributor will be for all practical purposes, impossible. But it will also mean we may need to fill a bunch of forms and go through a series of expensive tests before publishing software and sites on the Internet.
The signs of this are already coming from Microsoft where you need to signs your exe files for "authenticity", and "comspulsory" game rating requirement of Vista, and the more expensive "trustworthy" certificates initiative that the major browser makers are engaged into.
If the company is trying to improve their image, this is not the way to go about it. In fact it makes them look even more evil than before.
Funny how that happens, Karma goes down when you're wrong. Crazy, aint it?
alleging that Spyware Doctor removes Zango's software without warning users that it will be deleted.
What about Zango's spyware installing itself WITHOUT WARNING USERS that it will be installed?
Truth is stranger than fiction, that's for sure.
Managed care is driving doctors away. It's driving them to specialize. General practice is becoming a babysitter role. The patient is stuck with what the managed care system will pay.
If you like the current managed care system, you will LOVE the Hillary Clinton socialized medicine plan, in which it will be ILLEGAL to pay for your own doctor. It will be illegal to go to another country to get health care. You will be STUCK with what the government offers. If you have to wait 9 months for an MRI, and another 6 months for knee surgery, remember to have fun with those crutches.
I especially like the chemotherapy stories. Picture a cancer patient, who has a very short window to start chemotherapy to knock it into remission, having to wait 6 months to a year to start treatment. By then, it's too late, and the government wastes $250,000 on chemotherapy that has no chance of success.
That's the system that Hillary Clinton has been touting for almost 2 decades. That's what Edwards is going to support.
If you think you like government bureaucracy now, you'll really love it when they're 100% in charge of your health care.
You think dealing with the IRS is fun? Imagine calling your congressperson or senator to see if you can get a kidney transplant after 10 years of dialysis. Imagine going to the dentist and getting stainless steel crowns because that's all that's available. You won't be able to get white ceramic. You won't be able to get the more durable gold crowns. Stainless is it.
And the legal system will eat up all of your time and money because you'll spend every available minute trying to fight the government to get what you would have in this current system.
Actually, I'd like to see us go back to the old system, where everyone got their own insurance. The employer didn't "choose" for you. The employer didn't get to deduct the health care expense. I'd like to see the employees get the deduction. But there are too many lawyers, too many industry lobbyists, and too many politicians taking too much money from too many industries to turn the system around.
We elect politicians solely on their ability to tell fiction on their campaign platforms, and then "spin the story" when they can't producte.
So why do people believe people like John Edwards and Hillary Clinton? Because most people are stupid, and they believe. They repeatedly believe that what politicians say will come true. And it won't. For 40 or 50 years, politicians have been telling us that welfare will help poor people. We have more poor people than ever. JOBS and WORK help poor people. They earn money, they earn self esteem, and they teach their kids the same. Instead, politicians GIVE away tax money, telling the poor that they deserve this money. The left has 50 million people PAID to sit at home and eat cheesy poofs, drink beer, smoke crack, and vote Democrat... they're so ingrained in the welfare system that they can NEVER get out. Let's just hope that the illegal immigrants keep working, and don't end up on the liberal democrats' "government programs". What a waste. Throwing money at a problem and thinking that it helps. Those people need far more than money.
Well, that's if he filed in DC. He'd have much better chances if he filed in the Ninth Circuit.
"I know I used to force myself upon you, repeatedly, with no remorse, but I was thinking seeing as I have asked that you allow me to, and that I have changed my name now, you may voluntarily sleep with me?"
...and if you say no, I'll accuse you of rape. Yeah, it's sickening. Surely if I run an app that removes "software", I'm consenting to removing the software it removes? If I use, say, Spyware Doctor to remove, say, Zango, it's no different from using, say, Windows Explorer to remove, say, Firefox, surely? Should the Mozilla Foundation sue Microsoft? (It's a rhetorical question! Honest!)
This is where the serious fun begins.
You say that but, here in SLO-town I had an experience that that shows the opposite. My wife and I needed an OB-GYN and there was only one doc in town that was taking new patients. The other docs just said no, we don't have the time. We had a similar experience when we went looking for a dermatologist, most of them had two month waits just to see a doc. This isn't for one covered by a plan this is for cash on the barrel head. There may not be fewer docs in California but there are not any new docs showing up to match the increase in population.
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If you don't think frivolous lawsuits are out of control, by a lawnmower and look at the manual that comes with it. If you just take all the items about actual operation and maintenance you will have about 6 pages. The other 10 - 20 pages of safety warnings are the result of lawsuits! This was demonstrated in a mangement class in 93 by the Prof that bought one over the summer. He found one where a moron sued a mower company because they didn't specificly warn him not to pick it up while running to trim a hedge, and won!
Need more on why Edwards is unfit? When he was elected to the Senate in 98 he never served as a true Senator, he thought he got elected Presidential candidate and missed over half the votes of his 6 year term. He will lose any election in NC, Primary or General. We know about this "champion of the poor" that lives in a 6 million dollar home with enough space in the barn (due to a remodel that is almost finished) to house a secret service detail. Overconfidant? I hope so!
Trial lawyers are the only group that I trust less than politicians.
Professional Politicians are not the solution, they ARE the problem.
Of course it's down. It's down because Edwards is out of that business and busy running for president. He's the classic smooth-talking lawyer of little substance that takes on big-money cases and ignores anything else, regardless of merit.
There are probably some good lawyers in the medical field, trying to get justice for patients that have been truly wronged. Edwards wasn't one of 'em. He was the guy channeling fetal testimony for the multi-million dollar lawsuit based on crank science.
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I think that misses the point that this issue highlights - that all lawyers should be put in a shuttle and sent directly into the centre of the sun.
Because of course, the actual companies involved had nothing to do with filing the lawsuits. Everyone knows that without lawyers, there would be no conflict between individuals or between companies.
Also, lawyers have never done anything useful. If they hadn't gotten involved, we'd still be able to keep minorities from voting, and companies would be able to pollute with abandon. I long for the good old days, when all disputes were settled with spears and clubs.
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