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A Mighty Number Falls

space_in_your_face writes "An international team has broken a long-standing record in an impressive feat of calculation. On March 6, computer clusters from three institutions (the EPFL, the University of Bonn, and NTT in Japan) reached the end of eleven months of strenuous calculation, churning out the prime factors of a well-known, hard-to-factor number — 2^1039 - 1 — that is 307 digits long." The lead researcher believes "the writing is on the wall" for 1024-bit encryption. "Last time, it took nine years for us to generalize from a special to a non-special hard-to factor number (155 digits). I won't make predictions, but let's just say it might be a good idea to stay tuned."

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  1. What are they? by Hatta · · Score: 4, Funny

    I read TFA, it didn't say what the factors were. Does anyone know?

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    1. Re:What are they? by jfengel · · Score: 5, Funny

      Hang on, I'm working on it. I'll get back to you.

    2. Re:What are they? by IthnkImParanoid · · Score: 4, Funny

      They were about to write them down when the computer was destroyed to make way for a hyperspace bypass. I guess we'll find out in 11 months or so.

      On the plus side, the staff has quicker access to the nearest janitorial supply closet.

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    3. Re:What are they? by Hatta · · Score: 4, Funny

      Hang on, I'm working on it. I'll get back to you.

      It's not going to take 11 months is it?

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    4. Re:What are they? by VAXcat · · Score: 4, Funny

      I know them, but I can't tell you, since they are also copyrighted AACS keys...

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    5. Re:What are they? by brunascle · · Score: 5, Funny

      for the love of god, please tell me you got those numbers from the results of the project

    6. Re:What are they? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      Hey, that's the same combination I have on my luggage!

    7. Re:What are they? by sanimalp · · Score: 5, Funny

      No, he just works for the NSA.

    8. Re:What are they? by phasm42 · · Score: 3, Funny

      In binary: 2^1039-1=11111111111...11111111 (1039 '1' bits)

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    9. Re:What are they? by dvice_null · · Score: 3, Funny

      You too?!

    10. Re:What are they? by Anonymous+Custard · · Score: 2, Funny

      Oh, big deal. He was only off by a multiple of 5 million or so. ...

    11. Re:What are they? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      I have a truly marvellous factorization of this number which this margin is too narrow to contain.

  2. I'll be honest. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Funny

    I don't think that I care about this.

    1. Re:I'll be honest. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      Keep me posted when you know for sure.

      Tx.

    2. Re:I'll be honest. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      Let me know when he gets back to you!

  3. They better hurry and copyright that number by vortoxin · · Score: 2, Funny

    I can see the RIAA filing the lawsuit on a DMCA violation now....."That's our prime number/integer"

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  4. An NSA spokesperson disagrees by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    NSA research indicates that 1024-bit encryption is unbreakable and everyone should be using it.

  5. this too by Himring · · Score: 4, Funny

    Knowing this, too, will not help you pick up chicks in a bar....

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    1. Re:this too by IthnkImParanoid · · Score: 3, Funny

      So if you integrate this into your lines it could be a factor in your chance to multiply?

      Why yes, I am a big hit at parties.

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  6. One down, by seaturnip · · Score: 4, Funny

    infinity left to go!

  7. That's nothing! by iamacat · · Score: 2, Funny

    I just factored 2^2048 in a few milliseconds on a single computer. Your bank account balance was just donated to support world peace. RSA is doomed? Oh, wait? Are you saying RSA is based on numbers which are products of two large primes, not just some numbers with lots of small factors? Bummer!

  8. You may also be interested to know by p3d0 · · Score: 3, Funny

    85% of all statistics are made up.

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  9. Re:Why Does Encryption Need to "Scramble" Informat by goddidit · · Score: 5, Funny

    http://xkcd.com/c257.html
    Navajo code is pretty easy to crack.

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  10. in related news by circletimessquare · · Score: 2, Funny

    any security measure built by a man can also be broken by a man

    there is absolutely no such thing as 100% security

    and there never will be

    for most of us, 99.9999999999999999999999% security will do

    for the rest, sweaty heart palpitations and paranoid schizophrenia will do

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  11. Re:Next step: FPGA cracking by 2short · · Score: 4, Funny

    Quantum computers have that one nagging flaw: they don't actually exist.

  12. Re:distributed network computing? by Dancindan84 · · Score: 3, Funny

    So that's what the spammers are doing. Does that mean that 1/500 v1agra messages is really sekret US intelligence?

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  13. Re:Next step: FPGA cracking by StarfishOne · · Score: 4, Funny

    Is that before or after looking at the machine? ;-)

    (forgive me, I love quantum-related jokes... ^_~)

  14. Re:Next step: FPGA cracking by maxwell+demon · · Score: 5, Funny

    Is that before or after looking at the machine? ;-)

    (forgive me, I love quantum-related jokes... ^_~) Yes.

    (forgive me, I love logic-related jokes ... :-))
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  15. Eh? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    I did 2^1040-1 yesterday on my TI-83...I knew that overclock was worth it!

  16. Re:How many people have the computing power ... by Abcd1234 · · Score: 5, Funny

    in fact you have about a 1 in 300 chance of pulling 1024-bit prime out of your ass

    Wow, now *that* is a cool trick!

  17. Re:distributed network computing? by ArsonSmith · · Score: 3, Funny

    It's not a machine for making a wormhole. You have to have a small wormhole available to you. What the machine does is expand a wormhole to enormous sizes. It is hinted at in the picture if you look closely.

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  18. Re:Wrong number, in both the GP and the summary! by AshNazg · · Score: 4, Funny

    Use bc instead.
    The factors are correct. Just checked.

    And don't doubt me, I'm a 3 digits UID

  19. Re:Next step: FPGA cracking by moosesocks · · Score: 4, Funny

    Quantum computers have that one nagging flaw: they don't actually exist.

    Quantum computers have that one nagging flaw: they actually exist.

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  20. Re:How many people have the computing power ... by rpresser · · Score: 5, Funny

    Perhaps you should see the Prime Number Shitting Bear.

    Originally at http://www.primenumbershittingbear.com/ but that's long dead, so I dug it out of the Wayback Machine and put it up at http://rpresser.googlepages.com/primenumbershittin gbear.html . Enjoy.

  21. Re:Damn, beaten, somewhat. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    Well, I verified them in Emacs using 'calc'. That definitively settles this matter.

  22. Re:Damn, beaten, somewhat. by morcego · · Score: 4, Funny

    I just checked with Netcraft, and they also confirmed it.

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  23. Re:Damn, beaten, somewhat. by Obsi · · Score: 1, Funny

    Well I checked with my super-hyper-meta-top abacus! QED.

  24. Re:How many people have the computing power ... by Zebedeu · · Score: 2, Funny

    It appears that you're out of bandwidth.
    Google to the rescue (hope it holds): http://alpha61.com/primenumbershittingbear

  25. Re:How many people have the computing power ... by ChiefNX · · Score: 2, Funny

    Right. Someone leave the site open until this bear shits out an undiscovered prime and we'll be rich.

  26. Re:Wrong number, in both the GP and the summary! by RudeDude · · Score: 3, Funny

    Does that make me even "better"?

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