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US Opposes G8 Climate Proposals

elrond writes "The US appears to have summarily rejected draft proposals for G8 members that would have agreed to tougher measures for controlling greenhouse gas emissions. The BBC reports that leaked documents have indicated the positions of the various world powers, from the timetable-setting of Germany to the US's intractable stance. Red ink comments on the documents hint at the US's irritation: 'The US still has serious, fundamental concerns about this draft statement. The treatment of climate change runs counter to our overall position and crosses 'multiple red lines' in terms of what we simply cannot agree to ... We have tried to tread lightly but there is only so far we can go given our fundamental opposition to the German position.'"

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  1. Climate? What is that? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    The treatment of climate change runs counter to our overall position and crosses 'multiple red lines' in terms of what we simply cannot agree to No kidding. Like is there really a climate? I don't recall Jesus ever talking about a climate and I'm damn sure he never mentioned anything about it changing. Perhaps these other G8 nations need to worry a little more about their salvation than some hippie environmentalist cause that is only supported by scientists. Get the support of a couple of preachers and then I'll listen.
  2. I heart Dinosaurs by letchhausen · · Score: 5, Funny

    The overall position of the US at this time is that people and dinosaurs lived together in harmony and that soon George the idiot and all his money-grubbing pals will fly into the sky up to heaven. Global warming and the changing environment is a problem for those of us LEFT BEHIND to deal with. So as dubya says "What me worry?"

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    Hey, you think your house is cool?
  3. Hope for the future by BoxRec · · Score: 1, Funny

    There is yet hope, a combined European / Asian military force could liberate the US from it's fanatical leader and restore democracy.

  4. Hey Europe... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Big apologies for this- all of our regnegging on agreements and such. PLEASE give us two years to fix this shit. K? Thx!! BFF

  5. haiku by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    Washington DC
    Climate Change denial ends
    under rising sea.

  6. Re:sanctions are inevitable by Kohath · · Score: 2, Funny

    surely its only a matter of time before europe imposes trade tarrifs on US goods? ... but I don't see any other option in the long term.

    Other option: Not imposing trade tariffs.

    Just trying to help.

  7. Twenty months to go... by imagerodeo · · Score: 2, Funny

    Twenty months to go, twenty months to go
    Hi-ho the dairy oh, twenty months to go

  8. Re:sanctions are inevitable by trolltalk.com · · Score: 2, Funny

    In a few years, we'll be saying "In Soviet Terra, Climate Opposes US".

    Look on the bright side - there'll be even more swamp land in Florida for hucksters to "timeshare" as "great view of the ocean".

  9. The US knows everything by SQLz · · Score: 4, Funny

    I mean, why don't they listen to the USA. Our position is that since the earth is only 3000 years old, there isn't enough long term data to determine if climage change is even being caused by humans. Not only that, why would God let the planet get too hot? It just doesn't make any sense.

    1. Re:The US knows everything by orkysoft · · Score: 2, Funny

      Not really -- next time around will be at a higher difficulty level: more tempting sins, lower faith levels, smarter devils, bigger deserts, longer floods, more plagues. A real challenge!

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      I suffer from attention surplus disorder.
  10. Re:sanctions are inevitable by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Well, of course, they've declared "War on Terra".

  11. Re:You can't make money preventing global warming, by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Yeah, they also told us you cannot make money on open source programs.

  12. Re:You can't make money preventing global warming, by YrWrstNtmr · · Score: 2, Funny

    The problem is that you cannot make real money preventing global warming.

    The High Priest of Global Warming begs to differ. He even pays himself.

  13. Re:It's fragile, and about to break by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    The evidence is in, the effects are happening. What the hell WILL convince you?
    When someone translates a bible passage to foresee global warming caused by humans. Really, if it's not in the bible, it's bullshit. Everyone knows that...
  14. Re:It's fragile, and about to break by drjzzz · · Score: 2, Funny

    I'm guessing that "Kyoto 2.0" doesn't say anything about moderating speed on the Autobahn (highway).

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    to err is human, to forgive is divine, to forget is... umm...
  15. Re:Trees are renewable by Rakshasa+Taisab · · Score: 3, Funny

    Did she get to eat cake?

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  16. Carbon credits by furball · · Score: 3, Funny

    Don't worry. I'm selling carbon credits. Just pay me and continue on what you were doing.

  17. Re:Please Remember by Hal_Porter · · Score: 2, Funny

    Actually, since they consequently lacked anything to domesticate, they stayed at the hunter-gatherer tribal state for the next 20 000 years and were eventually driven off their land and killed into near-extinction by foreign invaders and their domestication-originated diseases.

    But the only possible foreign invaders now are aliens, and if there's one thing I learned from science fiction it is that alien invaders come from dying worlds. They don't invade them. Obviously to offset the vast cost of interstellar travel the world you invade has to be pretty damn healthy environmentally. So by destroying the environment we are actually making ourselves safe from the aliens.

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  18. Re:It's fragile, and about to break by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    So what you're saying is, you're still not going to provide a link to this "study"?

  19. Re:It's fragile, and about to break by sumdumass · · Score: 2, Funny

    Try searching for "study questions temperature proxy data" and canada climate proxy is wrong"

    You Think I am trolling? Lol.. If i was I would be doing more then this. Of course you stating it doesn't matter, My posts in this thread have already been downmoded while obvious flames have been tagged insightful. This is a reoccurring theme in this global warming debate. Anything that doesn't toe the line gets attacked, the messenger gets attacked, The entire proxy data and GHG theory has been questioned before, It is quite simple to find an over abundance of papers blogs and all explaining it away. There are even studies released "gasp" in nature and scientific journals set out for peer review and all seems to be fine with them that say this. There are some sites that explain this away by stating other independent studies back the original data up, and yet there are counters to the counter that says Duh, when both studies use the wrong data, you will have two wrongly concluded studies.

    What makes you, (the umteenth person to say "..were's the link?") think that I was really caring to go into this part of the topic. My posts didn't make any claims to support it. It just said it was there to lead into why I think we can't do anything about it. I didn't provide a link because I heard about it on the radio where links don't exactly post very well. I'm pretty sure I specifically said that didn't I? If you really had something constructive to say other then "lets mark him a troll because I can't find anything in a search", you would have said it by now. Instead there is this campaign to attack them messenger. I do realize this is the strong suit in the arguments, Don't counter the message, attack the messenger, "He is an evil troll". And "oh no, he didn't provide a link, I'm smart but not smart enough to do a google search and find a link on my own"

    I suspect that you even know about these studies and claims of the wrong data being used and the data being manipulated. I suspect this because of the efforts to claim anything other then those aspects of my post were wrong. Thats OK though, I don't hold it against you or the masses of other trying to be the good soldier of the cause. I don't hold things again fools and idiots, Brain washed people fall in there somewhere too. Now just forget I said anything and go practice you little religion in peace. I will never again say your god is phony...

    Ps, I bet I got more wise ass comments that most followers of the faith have mod points. The question is, if you waist them all on me, ho0w will you be able to quiet the others? And yes, There are others, I just got done posting over there too.