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How to Save the Internet

An anonymous reader writes "An article up at the Harvard Business Review's website by Jonathan Zittrain, one of the founders of the Berkman Center, discusses how the desire to clamp down on Internet openness can be avoided. From the piece: 'Those who provide content and services over the Internet have lined up in favor of "network neutrality," by which ISPs would not be permitted to disfavor certain legitimate content that passes through their servers. Similarly, those who offer open APIs on the Internet ought to be application neutral, so all those who want to build on top of their interfaces can rely on certain basic functionality. Generative systems offer extraordinary benefits. As they go mainstream, the people using them can share some sense of the experimentalist spirit that drives them.'"

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  1. I have a better solution by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Everyday, I fill up a jar with a little piece of the internet. Right now, my house is full of jars, but I figure this will pay off once the internet is gone.

    1. Re:I have a better solution by smittyoneeach · · Score: 3, Funny

      fill up a jar
      Oh java, you were ever the solution in search of a problem.
      --
      Get thee glass eyes, and, like a scurvy politician, seem to see things thou dost not.--King Lear
    2. Re:I have a better solution by lowid+(24)+_________ · · Score: 2, Funny

      I'll trade you a bottle of Crystal Pepsi for a jar of your internet..

    3. Re:I have a better solution by that+this+is+not+und · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I do the same thing, in terms of archiving and locally mirroring anything and everything I think I will find useful.

      That means I have the entire NetBSD distfiles (source tarballs) for a fairly recent Pkgsrc version ("make mirror-distfiles" is your friend,) and data and info for all the equipment, etc. that I have or want. Also it's important to grab old stuff while you can, like collections of OS/2 applications, and even Simtelnet's MS-DOS archives.

      Not because I assume it will all one-day go away. Because I KNOW lots of it will go away, because a lot of it already has.

  2. Easy. by 313373_bot · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Keep any form of legislation out of it. Let it self-regulate. Sounds radical and utopian, but the opposite seems even worse, ineffective and ultimately pointless.

    --
    ^[:q!
    1. Re:Easy. by suv4x4 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Keep any form of legislation out of it. Sounds radical and utopian, but the opposite seems even worse, ineffective and ultimately pointless.

      I'd give a hand* to eradicate cybersquatters by legislation. Also we have a big spam/scammer problem.

      Legislation isn't out of the question, it just has to be applied with discipline. The internet is in its "wild west" phase right now, but as can be seen in USA itself, this is not a phase that lasts forever.

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      *Ok, I'd not give a hand, but you get my point.

    2. Re:Easy. by CastrTroy · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I don't think we have problem with spam or scammers that we can fix with legislation. Firstly, with spam, I have seen more than 2 spam messages per day in my inbox for a long time. This is through using GMail's filtering as well as SpamAssassin. Filtering out spam can get pretty far on just software, or at least a lot further than you'd get through legislation. Telling people not to send spam (especially when it's only illegal in certain countries) wouldn't get people to stop sending it. Also with scammers, it's a problem with education of the users, not with legislation. If people are stupid enough to type their bank password into some third party site because of an email they got, then they need to be educated about why that is such a bad idea.

      --

      Anthropic principle: We see the universe the way it is because if it were different we would not be here to see it.
    3. Re:Easy. by rustalot42684 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Yeah, 'cause deregulation ALWAYS works. Yes, it works in some areas of the market.

      "But what is there stopping someone from making their own, new ISP that does not prioritize certain traffic?"

      The costs of starting a new telecommunications provider are huge. You would have to lay in all your own fibre-optic cable and build a new infrastructure from scratch. Face it: The costs of making a new ISP are so immense that only someone like Google or Yahoo would be able to do it, and even then it would be VERY risky. So you're stuck with the ones you have: Comcast, Verizon, AT&T, Time-Warner, etc, and in Canada, I have Bell or Rogers. Because new competition is virtually impossible, they have no reason not to charge more & in new ways.

    4. Re:Easy. by Planesdragon · · Score: 4, Insightful

      you're absolutey right. I mean, look at how quickly the meat packing industry cleaned up after The Jungle. Or how quickly the automobile industry rolled out seat belts and air bags to all their automobiles, even the cheap ones, just because it was a good idea.

      Self-regulation is a fool's dream, moreso than industry by demand.

    5. Re:Easy. by CastrTroy · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Legislation through the organizations that handle domain registrations. This doesn't need to be dealt with at a criminal or government level. This is something that the internet can deal with on it's own, without incorporating the help of people in governments who don't understand the technology.

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      Anthropic principle: We see the universe the way it is because if it were different we would not be here to see it.
    6. Re:Easy. by daeg · · Score: 2, Interesting

      If they want it unregulated, they need to use only private land. Since they use public easements, the public has a right to regulate it through the Government. The Government should serve the people. In this case, it is of everyone's interest to allow companies to use the public easements -- companies stay in business and the public gets a valuable service from it. At no time should any concession be given to companies that require public property to operate. If a company disappears because they cannot serve the public appropriately, other companies will quickly fill the void.

    7. Re:Easy. by suv4x4 · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I understand your analogy, but isn't it a bit specious? Did you ever fear being gunned down like a dog while running your shell account? ;^)

      Yes, we all fear. Isn't it obvious:

      "Don't forget your anti-virus, anti-malware, anti-phishing!"
      "Do you know of a good spam filter?
      "You need a good firewall, I recommend XYZ!"
      "Internet Explorer isn't secure, get Firefox"
      "You absolutely need to be always patched with the latest fixes?"
      "I have all my ports closed but 80 and 443, even on those I'm having special rules setup."
      "Drive-By Downloads: definition"
      "Spammers attack back anti-spam site with DoS attack"

      Does it sound like the Internet is a safe and happy place?

      But here, I'll extend the analogy even further and explain the reasons: every single industry/society in the history so far is moving in cycles:

      1. First cycle is early adopters, accidentally stumbling upon something new, people who use and develop something for the hell of it, without the general public realizing what it may be useful for (Columbus accidentally stumbling upon USA and thinking it's India)

      2. Free phase: great for innovation, since the entry level is ridiculously low, anyone gets a chance, but there's no stability, no control, and that limits the use of previously mentioned innovation (wild west phase).

      3. Police State phase: everything is legislated, entry level is high, but there's stability, so that you can rely upon the inventions of phase "2". There's still some innovation going on, but people rely on stability a lot more.

      So there we go. Things that happen in the wild west phase don't keep repeating forever. There won't be a new Google every few years, for example, just like there won't be new Microsoft any time soon. Search engine has been invented and working well enough already, we'll mostly see legislation and increase in stability in this area. Innovation will happen elsewhere.

      In the great Slashdot spirit of car analogies, I'll also ask you to imagine road without legislation. Sure, if this was the case, we'd have most problems with technology: much more intelligent, sturdier cars, cars that can take huge impact and the passengers will survive.

      But they'll also cost a lot more in money and time to maintain and be sure the next time you crash you won't be dead, since it'll be perfectly legal to drive drunk zig-zag accross the road.

    8. Re:Easy. by 313373_bot · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Some form of neutrality and fair competition enforcement is necessary indeed, given the big ISP oligopoly that currently exists. But it wasn't big business that made the Internet popular, rather, they encroached and grew alongside it. Proprietary services like Compuserve and others died or, like AOL, were forced to open to the "free" Internet in order to survive. If big ISPs try to go back to walled gardens, they will wither and die like their predecessors, so in that sense we don't really need legislation to curb their greed: let them try to charge more & in new ways, and fail it.

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      ^[:q!
    9. Re:Easy. by ls+-la · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The inherent problem with this is that you assume people in general are smart and rational.

    10. Re:Easy. by rohan972 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Did you ever fear being gunned down like a dog while running your shell account?

      There is some doubt you would have had this fear in the "wild west" anyway. http://www.mises.org/story/1449 There would probably be places in the now "civilised" US that you would be more likely to be killed than in the wild west.

      "in many places like Dodge City, tales of violence were actually accentuated to appeal to the tourist trade in the latter years of the Frontier."

      "the excitement in the Old West in general has been much overstated. All the big cattle towns of Kansas combined saw a total of 45 murders during the period of 1870-1885. Dodge City alone saw 15 people die violently from 1876-1885--an average of 1.5 per year. Deadwood, South Dakota and Tombstone, Arizona (home of the O.K. Corral), during their worst years of violence saw four and five murders respectively. Vigilante violence appears to not have been much worse."

    11. Re:Easy. by node+3 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Legislation through the organizations that handle domain registrations. This doesn't need to be dealt with at a criminal or government level. This is something that the internet can deal with on it's own, without incorporating the help of people in governments who don't understand the technology. How so? That's exactly how it is now, and there's no regulation for this whatsoever. What motivation *AT ALL* do the registrars have to not allow domain squatting? None. The incentive is *exactly the opposite*.

      That's the problem with libertarian free-market fundamentalists. Sometimes the market promotes undesirable behavior. For example, the free market promotes theft and murder. We regulate those activities because they are deemed to be sufficiently undesirable. Domain squatting isn't as bad as murder, but is in some ways like theft (blocking a limited resource with little-to-no societal benefit from being used productively by someone else, hence "squatting"). If you deem it sufficiently undesirable, the only logical solution is regulation. You're far more likely to find results with government regulation than you will with voluntary free-market regulation.

      For example, without the EPA, do you think the environment would be cleaner or dirtier than it is now?
    12. Re:Easy. by node+3 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      To start putting any limits on this will undoubtedly inconvenience legitimate users while the sneaks just find a way around it. We saw this when we forced netsol to start enforcing .net regulations for their intended purpose. It just can't be done sorry. Ugh, of all the brain-dead arguments put forth by free-market fundamentalists, this is the most inane. It's the "if even one person can get away with breaking the law, the law is useless" argument.

      Making murder illegal doesn't stop murder. Does that mean outlawing murder has not worked? That it "just can't be done sorry"? Of course not.

      The question is, can there be a law which sufficiently addresses some issue, while not unreasonably infringing on individual liberty?

      For example, a law which states an individual or a corporation (and all basic derivations of each) cannot own greater than 100 domains unless they can show that they make some form of use of them beyond placeholder or primarily ad-based pages? See how that's weighted *against* the innocent person who merely owns a handful (or few dozen!) defunct domains, but focuses directly on domain-squatters? See how it allows for an independent judgement to allow for people to own and use many domains, but stop those who try to weasel around the law?

      Now, I know what you are thinking. Why can't someone just form multiple LLC's and buy 99 domains each? Tack into the law that if a person is directly affiliated with a net total exceeding 100 domains, they fall under the purview of the law. Or make forming additional companies to bypass the law illegal. This sort of loophole closing works for other laws.

      You have no particular right to any specific name. What does this even mean? If I buy a domain, I have the right to it, unless I'm infringing on someone else's right.

      First come first served may suck but it sucks less than any of the alternatives. I disagree. First-come first-served severely favors gaming the system and snatching up every word you can imagine. That's why it's so completely impossible to find a domain-name that isn't already taken.

      Go ahead and try it. Most of the names you can come up with will just end up in some parked domain name.
  3. Don't Worry Ma'm by m1sha · · Score: 3, Funny

    I'm here to save your internet!

    1. Re:Don't Worry Ma'm by beyondkaoru · · Score: 2, Funny

      truly heroic, like this:

      http://xkcd.com/c208.html

      --
      the privacy of one's mind is important.
      you do have something to hide.
  4. Crisis? What crisis? I stopped at page one. by Torodung · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The only crisis I see regarding the Internet is that a large percentage of its users and networks implement a fundamentally insecure operating system, and the overwhelming majority of the client side users that run that operating system do so as ROOT, because that was the default install.

    That's a garbage in/garbage out (GIGO) proposal for the Internet.

    Otherwise, I think the Internet can handle it. It is carefully maintained and I think we'll even solve the looming address space problem. It doesn't need "saving" from anything but predatory last mile carrier profiteer rail barons who want to choke it off at the access points for profit.

    So, Mr. Zittrain, your basic premise is flawed.

    Here's a brief for a future article: The crisis is not with the *Inter*net, it is with the networks themselves that are internetworked. They're not secure. That's a local crisis, on a user by user and network by network basis. No change to the Internet or its protocols can fix it. GIGO.

    Discuss.

    If that was what your article eventually discussed, I apologize for my prejudice, but I couldn't get past your "Chicken Little" premises and foregone conclusion that "the Internet" is somehow in the crisis you described.

    --
    Toro

  5. Does this not call for a redesign of the internet? by perlhacker14 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Lets face it: the internet is a mockery of what it was meant to be. It is full of literally crap and is subject to the whims of politically oriented morons. If the internet was redesigned, there would be a chance to restart: a chance to redesign the net to suit what is best, without idiotic interference. The issue of net neutrality would come up, but with a redesign that works around it, there would be no problem. Think: a new chance to fix all the ridiculous errors and issues and clean up the internet through a redesign.

  6. About appliance-like locked down computers by lachesis-jp · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The article is interesting, long but interesting. The author is arguing among other things that PCs should stay mainstream because they are a motor of innovation since they are easily adapted to new applications. The author sees closed appliances such as tivos as a danger to innovation.

    I too believe that PC are extremely important in our society. But I am not sure that the generalization of locked down internet-appliance would be a bad thing.

    The main reason we are assaulted by spam and that botnets are rampant is that the average user is ignorant. A computer is a great tool and it's a very powerful one but as the other said "with power comes responsibility". But for a large portion of the users, the computer is a tool, that they use for a rather limited set of applications, and they have no deep understanding of how it works and what they have to do to use it properly : we can see that in the inability of so many to secure their computers.

    To use the sacrosanct car analogy, computers are like cars that you can drive without license. Since you don't need a license, people don't bother learning how to operate it properly : they are not interested and I can understand that. The problem is that now computers are interconnected and interact with others computers the same as cars interact with other cars on the road. You could very well operate your car without learning anything other than how to turn it on and accelerate but in that case, it is required that every drivers learn how to use turning light and other things before they can go on the road so that they don't impact the welfare as the other users.

    On the other hand, I'm sure that , those problems will be reduced in the future as children that have been brought up around computers and the internet will be more computer literate than their parents but the general level of computer illiteracy I see around me makes me think that it will take a long long time before the average joe can be trusted with a computer.

    What could be done to reduce this problem :
            -Nothing. Things are going to worsen but there is probably nothing we can do.
            -Let OS vendors turn to trusted computing but that would destroy the power and usefulness of General Purpose computer for everybody.
            -Hope people will turn to easy-to use appliance like device.

    I think we are indeed seeing that on a level : we can already find appliance-like locked down computers in many houses : tivos, xbox, playstation, they all are lockdown computers. Not everybody need a PC and I think it would be good if people had the choice not to get a real PC if they don't have the skills to use it.

    1. Re:About appliance-like locked down computers by keithjr · · Score: 2, Insightful

      What could be done to reduce this problem : -Nothing. Things are going to worsen but there is probably nothing we can do. -Let OS vendors turn to trusted computing but that would destroy the power and usefulness of General Purpose computer for everybody. -Hope people will turn to easy-to use appliance like device.

      Unfortunately, there is a fourth option: gross restrictions on internet traffic and application usage. This brute-force and lowest-order solution is the impetus for our conversation here. It means loss of net neutrality and the big companies vie for pieces of the online pie. What the public needs to know are that other options EXIST to secure the internet.

      Simple, eloquent means of securing general purpose PCs from malware, viruses, and other online threats exist. But, as you said, Average Joe doesn't see them, and can be thus be easily convinced that locking down the internet will be just as effective.

    2. Re:About appliance-like locked down computers by that+this+is+not+und · · Score: 2, Interesting

      So everyone has a general-purpose computer that is wide open to compromise. All it takes is opening the wrong email attachment.

      My 'general-purpose' computer that I use to connect to the net is a hugely popular model of which millions were sold. A Dell Optiplex GX1. Yet somehow it isn't 'wide open to compromise.' I use Sylpheed to read my email, and only from my user account on NetBSD.

      So how, again, am I wide open to compromise? The setup I am using was completely free, so there's no 'cost barrier' to other people doing the same. And this machine, the Dell Optiplex GX1 I am typing this one, cost me less than a dollar at a University surplus equipment auction. Again, no cost barrier.

      Nothing bothers me more than the notion that Microsoft and a few other 'big vendors' (i.e. Red Hat or some other private companie) steps in and a 'trusted' model is adopted. It would need to be binary in ways that I wouldn't like.

  7. Re:Hrm by lexarius · · Score: 2, Insightful

    You think that ISPs would drop prices due to a reduction in costs? I want to live in this fantasy world of yours.

  8. DRM Hurra! by Via_Patrino · · Score: 2, Funny

    "If enough Internet users begin to prefer PCs and other devices designed along the locked-down lines of tethered appliances, that change will tip the balance in a long-standing tug of war from a generative system open to dramatic change to a more stable, less-interesting system that locks in the status quo."

    DRM Hurra, for making the Internet more stable and people less free.

    Now a bit more serious, that's still a single point of failure, the closed devices that, if compromised, none may notice or easily recover.

    People still crack Xbox, blue-ray, even being closed devices, because they see a value on it, but what's the value of cracking an Ipod ?

    Low price and marketing (deadlines) will continue to be the focus of big companies, not reliability and security, although the working environment will be more predictable.

    And PCs won't die before TV Sets do, which I mean both will coexist with new (more things to sell) technology.

  9. Article link leads to a login page by Animats · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The link to the article on Internet openness leads to a page where you have to agree to an EULA to read the article. Openness. Right.

  10. Re:Hrm by rhyder128k · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I think that ISPs will be quick to "protect" users from all of this dreadful offensive porn that could harm their users. Unfortunately, the form that this protection will take is to award themselves extra money... [cough] I mean... charge extra for porn channel access.

    --
    Michael Reed, freelance tech writer.
  11. Better than a EULA! by Torodung · · Score: 3, Insightful

    It's not a EULA. There is no licensure. There isn't anything to agree to, either, other than copyright law in general or their TOS/AUP if you're a subscriber. No license. No agreement.

    It's simply a 189-word boilerplate statement about their commitment to copyright, and a statement of policy.

    In the first paragraph, however, is the stand-out offer:

    We therefore allow you to excerpt up to 500 words of an article for your personal use. This excerpt may be posted in your or another's blog or site, provided that it is accompanied by a link to the page on which the original article appears.

    The way I read that is that HBR Online grants anyone who clicks "I accept" up to 500 words of limited personal republication rights, which is rights to exactly 500 more words than any other copyrighted publication. They simply ask that you link the full article in return.

    Or you could accept no republication rights at all. Your choice.

    So far from being a EULA, it's a concession. HBR Online is going to accept that small bloggers can't really use a "fair use" defense and is going to give them, beyond "fair use" coverage, limited rights in return for a link back. That is a good deal at a good price.

    All I can say to HBR is, "Thank you." After a brief bit of reading I happily clicked "I accept."

    Or as you said: "Openness. Right."

    -- Toro