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Far-Fetched Time Travel Concept Receives Private Funds
WED Fan writes "A University of Washington researcher who couldn't find funds the old fashioned way has raised funds from private parties to continue with his studies of 'time travel'. He is studying the Einstein-Podolsky-Rosen Paradox. Basically, using spooky action, he wants to be able to use entangled pairs to send messages, not only through space, but also in time. 'As the evidence for this has accumulated, several fairly contorted and unsatisfying efforts have been aimed at solving the puzzle. Cramer has proposed an explanation that doesn't violate the speed of light but does kind of mess with the traditional concept of time.' Despite the implausibility of the science here laypeople have been inspired by the researcher's idea, enough to donate almost $35,000 to his project."
But I also admire folks who can inspire others toward some dream...
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If time travel can be produced, it's worth (asymptotically) nearly any amount of investmemnt to get it.
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I wonder if there's a way to get the names of the people who gave him money, and their contact info.
"We are all geniuses when we dream"
- E.M. Cioran
If this worked then there would already be investors lined up who have sent messages to themselves from the future.
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Not every crackpot is really a brilliant genius... but almost all brilliant geniuses were, at one point, considered to be crackpots.
The trouble is that there is no such thing as universal simultaneity. What clock do we measure by when measuring "before the message was created"?
Most of the comments here make no sense.
These people are not investors. They did not get "scammed". Those of us who read the article know that this scientist did not even approach them for cash. Rather, news of his plight got out and people wanted to donate. He is a respected particle physicist with a theory that is a little odd. He wants to perform a relatively cheap experiment which should show whether his theory has enough going for it to be worth further examination. If these experiments fail, oh well, back to the drawing board.
This is the way science is SUPPOSED to work. There's nothing wrong with being skeptical, but acting like this guy is a scam artist is ridiculous. This guy runs a super collider, yet everyone here is so damn sure they understand quantum phenomenon better than he does.
(1) Perhaps there are, and these investors are them.
(2) Not necessarily, if one needs to develop a special kind of "receiver" in order to receive the messages, then the first point in time at which such messages could be received would be when such receiver technology was invented (such point in time would be in the future still). If that point was in, say, 2015, then you could send messages from 2019 to 2015 but not from 2019 to 2007. You could *send* such messages, but nobody would have the technology to even realise that such messages were being sent. Like transmitting radio signals to cavemen.
don't need a link: in QFT it is true that space like separated operators commute - so no communication; in short, you can't make what you want happen at the other end of the "channel" even though there is a correlation between what is happening at both ends. OTH, so far as I know, this condition on the operators is just "written in" to the the theory so I think it's definitely worth testing
Some people think time is just a human construct...a way in which we measure the difference in the state of matter. If you think of reality as a motion picture of individual frames, time doesn't really come into the picture. Time travel doesn't make sense in this case because you can't actually bring everything in your near reality back to the state it was in before, never mind everything in the world, universe, etc.
I can take a paperweight on my desk and move it 6 inches to the left, and then back 6 inches to the right...I've essentially caused the rock to time travel, at least on an easily observable level, because it's in the same easily observable state it was in before. On a quantum level, no...because various things have changed in the rock (the little bit of airflow from movement along with my fingers grabbing it and dragging it on the desk likely scraped some matter off).
Anyway, just another crackpot way of looking at things.
Oh, say does that Star-Spangled Banner entwine / The myrtle of Venus with Bacchus's vine?
Or...invest in a few gallons of oil, or a few big diamonds, or have your future self send you the names of all the famous artists of the time (and buy some of their stuff for CHEAP!)
Money rarely (and certainly not predictably) INCREASES in value over time...inflation alone generally out paces all other economical factors. Your best bet is in the value of rare goods...
That was beautiful. I laughed out loud.
-Dave
I used to carry a bottle of whiskey for snake bite. And two snakes. -Nefarious Wheel
Well, for one, equations for distance involving spacetime already result in interesting situations that you wouldn't get from Euclidean geometry, distances that are positive, zero, or imaginary. I'm pretty sure that you can see at this point where there's a problem, namely that using time as a dimension gives you unintuitive results (though it's certainly a plus that they, you know, work).
The evidence that cesium clocks slow down is not evidence for time dilation. It is evidence that cesium clocks slow down under certain conditions, nothing more. Anybody who insists that time can change (an oxymoron) is either an idiot, an ass kisser, or is talking about something he/she is clueless about. IOW, he or she is talking out of his/her ass. ahahaha... Uhh, given that the difference in time kept by the clocks matches almost exactly with what is predicted by relativity, I'd say that's pretty damn conclusive evidence for time dilation occuring. Unless you've got some other mechanism that you can pull out of your ass that is repeatabe, can be verified, and is otherwise examinable, then you are the one talking out of your ass.
Peer review is synonymous with ass review, IMO. ahahaha... This is why people like John Cramer, David Deutsch, Stephen Hawking, etc.. can get away with their time-travel crap and still pass as serious scientists. They're all a bunch of crackpots kissing each other's asses. ahahaha... AHAHAHA... ahahaha... Phew! Making phun of crackpot physicists is so much phucking phun. ahahaha...
Getting your methodology, results, conclusions and every other piece of information about your theories, experiments, crackpot ideas, etc out to other people who are experts in the field so that they can run your experiment, analyze your data, comb through the reasoning behind your conclusion, and otherwise do anything else to vet your theories as being good or bad is the cornerstone of science. Unless you want to attempt a system of science where everything ends up on obscure websites that attempt to find support in the bible for physics theories with no apparent grounding in reality. Hell, that same website says that not only does time not exist, but space doesn't either and instead says that everything is particles and their properties. Well, if he wanted to rebel against science he sure has done it, because as far as I can see he has no evidence backing his theories. No experiments, no models, no readily testable properties, nothing. No wonder you and the site go against peer review so much, you would have to actually put up or shut up. Instead, you and the site take pot shots at science and scientists who actually bother to follow a systematic approach to increasing knowlege.