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eBay May Lose 'Buy it Now' Button in Patent Case

Spamicles writes "A judge has delayed his ruling on the eBay patent infringement case. eBay has been involved in a legal dispute over the use of its popular "Buy it Now" button, which allows consumers to skip the bidding and purchase items on eBay directly. The patent suit was filed six years ago by MercExchange L.L.C. In May of 2003, a jury ruled in MercExchange's favor finding that eBay did in fact infringe on the patent, but in 2005 the US Supreme Court ruled that MercExchange was not automatically entitled to a court order blocking the offending service, essentially handing a victory down to patent reform advocates. However, the ruling by the Supreme Court does not affect the final judgment of the court."

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  1. Yeah by Lisandro · · Score: 4, Funny

    That makes sense. Yay for software patents!

    1. Re:Yeah by smittyoneeach · · Score: 5, Interesting
      Which hints at the ultimate remedy for this nonsense:
      Shaming.
      When companies engage in blatant absurdity, and try to abuse the legal system in the name of lining their wallets, the online community needs to publicize the fact that these companies suck much pond water.
      After enough negative profit impact from bogus lawsuits, even the most pointy-haired of bosses will get the memo.
      If the gubmint can't do the right thing, then let's rally the market.

      Consider this still-steaming loaf of farce:

      "Our law enforcement resources are seriously misaligned," NBC/Universal general counsel Rick Cotton said. "If you add up all the various kinds of property crimes in this country, everything from theft, to fraud, to burglary, bank-robbing, all of it, it costs the country $16 billion a year. But intellectual property crime runs to hundreds of billions [of dollars] a year."
      http://www.contentagenda.com/CA6452245.html
      RMS torpedoed this one nicely: http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/not-ipr.html
      Unfortunately, money both talks and buys legislation.
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    2. Re:Yeah by vadim_t · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Shaming won't work against patent trolls.

      They won't give a damn about their reputation, lawsuits and patent licensing is how they do business. In fact, probably the more infamous they become the better, as companies would be more likely to just pay up.

      What is needed is anti-patent troll legislation: If you don't make it, you don't get to own a patent on it.

    3. Re:Yeah by GeckoX · · Score: 5, Insightful

      How about simple rules for obviousness?

      The fact that this can even be patented is frankly asinine.

      If it's not truly original, if it's just stacking a bunch of existing lego pieces together in another configuration, if it's blatantly obvious, then No Fucking Patent!

      What I don't understand is why the court system doesn't get this, why it continues to foster this situation by allowing this crap to go on.

      It's a fucking BUTTON.

      It's NO different when it comes right down to it to walking into a store and buying something from the clerk.

      INVENT something and I'll fully support your right to capitalize and prosper from it. Re-package the fucking wheel again, and try to gain the same protection, and you should have your head forcibly rammed as far up your ass as it will go, and then a bit more just to be sure.

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  2. Guess they'll just have to make it... by GroundBounce · · Score: 5, Funny

    "Buy it later"

    1. Re:Guess they'll just have to make it... by PresidentEnder · · Score: 5, Funny

      How about "Skip bidding?"

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    2. Re:Guess they'll just have to make it... by Archangel+Michael · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Better yet .... "Screw the Patents" button.

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  3. Alternative by kmahan · · Score: 5, Funny

    "Buy it after waiting 1 second" button.

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  4. And they will replace it with by ATAMAH · · Score: 4, Insightful

    "Purchase it straight away" button, or something along those lines... We are a community where the mindset of "can't make profit? Litigate !" - and it is only getting worse.

  5. The ultimate in stupid patents by davmoo · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I thought seriously about tagging this story with the tag "bull shit", because that's what this patent is. This should become the new poster child for "patent troll" and "patent office stupidity". This is even a more boneheaded patent than Amazon's non-innovation of one click buying (which always seems to take me two or three clicks anyway).

    What's next, they're going so take Walmart to court because Walmart lets me buy something without bidding on it? Are they going to take the owners of the live auction I go to each week to court because after high bid is set on an item, they allow those present to buy multiples of that same item for the same high bid without running another auction process?

    I'm all for the rights of a business to prosper and benefit from their original ideas. But this patent is about as far from "original" as you can get, and is as original as my getting up out of bed each morning and taking a piss. This company should be exterminated like the worthless parasite that it is. I said it before about SCO, and it applies here too...those who can innovate, while those who can't litigate.

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  6. Or create a different button with the same fxn... by feedmetrolls · · Score: 5, Funny

    Buy it immediately?
    Purchase now?
    Screw the bidding?
    Screw the bidders?
    Screw Flanders?

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  7. A Very Simple Summary Breakdown by Nymz · · Score: 5, Funny

    MercExchange patents 'buy it now' - Thank You!
    Ebay negotiates a license - How much you want?
    Ebay doesn't get a license - Whoa! That's too much
    Ebay intentionally uses it anyway - What are they gonna do, sue us?
    MercExchange brings a lawsuit against Ebay - Yes
    Judge rules in favor of MercExchange - I can see your name on the patent
    Judge misapplies injuction process - this stuff is complicated
    Ebay appeals the injuction - HaHa! a technicality
    Judges rule that the injunction was done wrong - I can see the process wasn't followed
    Judges also comment on current patent law - this shit sucks
    MercExchange requests the injunction be applied permanently - we hate Ebay
    Ebay requests postponement until patent is reassessed - No rush, we can wait 10 years
    Judge must now make a decision - damned if I do, damned if I don't

  8. Heh by Moraelin · · Score: 5, Funny

    Heh. Given that, say, the in-game auction house on WoW has an instant buy option too, I wonder how long until they'll want their cut there too.

    And will they take the license fee in game money, since that's all that changes virtual hands? I can just see a party of lawyers riding to Ironforge and Orgrimmar to demand their license fees.

    Well, the dwarves might even pay up, but I'd worry about trying to collect from the Orcs. I doubt anyone explained to Thrall yet how the license system works. And troll tribes tend to kill each other on sight, so I'd advise the patent trolls to stay clear of the Darkspear trolls ;)

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  9. Re:E-bay needs "overtime" bidding by MaelstromX · · Score: 4, Informative

    Screw them. Until E-bay institutes a much needed "overtime" change, I will never do business anymore. I'm tired of all the 1-second-till-end phantom biding programs and online services screwing me over.


    Evidently the people who use these programs want the items you are bidding on more than you do, or it would not matter that they are entering last-minute bids. Enter as your maximum bid the highest possible price you would want to buy the item for, and it won't matter if somebody enters a bid at the last possible moment because you will automatically outbid them.

    If you are not willing to do this, chances are the other person wants the item more than you do (i.e. is willing to pay more for it, no matter when they entered their bid) and thus you don't deserve to win it. The system is not broken.
  10. Re:Judicial System: Redo from Start by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    And lets not forget about hot cups of coffee
    Gah, everything else in your comment is spot on but people always bring the McCoffee thing up as an example of a frivolous lawsuit when it actually wasn't. The coffee was very hot, enough to cause serious burns (she needed skin grafts). They had previously been advised it was dangerously hot but carried on serving at that temperature. The cup it was served in was flimsy and tended to collapse when the top was taken off. In short, it was inherently dangerous to be serving at a drive-through and it was quite reasonable for the court to find them criminally negligent for doing so.