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Blockbuster Chooses Blu-ray

s31523 writes "The format war between HD-DVD and Blu-ray has posted another battle, this time the victor seems to be the Blu-ray side. Blockbuster has announced it has chosen Blu-ray as the HD format to rent out in the majority of its stores. This decision comes after rental data was looked at for the 250 stores that carry both HD-DVD and Blu-Ray with the majority of rentals being Blu-Ray. Blockbuster now plans to stock Blu-ray only in 1450 of it's stores, but says the 250 stores with the HD-DVD movies will be kept on the shelf."

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  1. Oh? by Guppy06 · · Score: 4, Funny

    "This decision comes after rental data was looked at for the 250 stores that carry both HD-DVD and Blu-Ray with the majority of rentals being Blu-Ray."

    8 rentals versus 6?

    1. Re:Oh? by pl1ght · · Score: 5, Funny

      Actually the figure stated 70% of all rentals were blu-ray, which would make it around 7 vs 3.

  2. Freedom to choose by allscan · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Yet another win for Netflix, which allows you to pick your favorite HD format!

    1. Re:Freedom to choose by monk.e.boy · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Yet another win for BitTorrent, which allows you to pick your favorite HD format!

      :-P

      monk.e.boy

    2. Re:Freedom to choose by allscan · · Score: 5, Funny

      Someone's got to rip those HD movies for BitTorrent, thanks Netflix!

  3. how appropriate by ulysses38 · · Score: 5, Funny

    since i just finished reading the 'psychology of fanboys' story below. now we can see some in their native habitat.

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  4. A little meaning, perhaps by jimicus · · Score: 5, Insightful

    More interesting will be to see what the retail giants do.

    If Wal-Mart decides not to stock HD-DVD (or, for that matter, Blu-Ray) titles, then that's more interesting.

    Myself, I think the idea of two formats which (unlike VHS/Betamax) are, at first glance, practically identical and come in very similar cases yet require different players is absurd. Unless and until either one wins or dual-format players become commonplace, there's going to be some very pissed off people when they get their shiny new film home only to find that it won't play.

  5. Does this even matter? by EveryNickIsTaken · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Digital distribution is the way of the future, not Blu-Ray or HD DVD discs. Isn't netflix already selling movie downloads?

    1. Re:Does this even matter? by twistedsymphony · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Everyone I know with an HDTV has some form of "On Demand" for getting HD movies... I don't know a single person who owns either an HD-DVD or BRD player.

      The cost of ownership is significantly lower too... pay your cable/satellite company $5 for the movie you want to see using the equipment you already have or buy a $500+ player and go to the store (or wait for delivery of) a rental + however much that costs.

      I see the HD-DVD vs BRD debate along the same lines as the DVD-Audio vs SACD debate... which format one that war? NEITHER the equipment was over priced, crippled by DRM and only a fraction of the market owned the supporting equipment to fully utilize it nevermind become actually interested in it.... who won that war? technically it still rages on but the real victor was the MP3 and other digitally distributed forms of music... far and wide technically inferior to the DVD-A and SACDs but it's pretty apparent that consumers go for convenience over quality... at least in terms of their media.

    2. Re:Does this even matter? by Lumpmoose · · Score: 5, Interesting

      What's the file size of a HD movie, and how long will it take to download at 1.5 mbs?

      The only service I've used that distributes a large number of HD movies online is the Xbox Live Marketplace on the 360. A 720p movie on there usually ranges from 6-7 GB which has takes 8-12 hours over my DSL line. Someone can correct me, but that size seems a bit small to be a true HD film. Most Blu-Ray/HD-DVD movies are 1080p, AFAIK. Besides the 360 & PS3, BR/HDDVD are the only ways to get a true 1080p image (no one broadcasts above 1080i). As the owner of a 1080p HDTV, that makes this format war all the more annoying.

  6. Another Layer of DRM by neonman · · Score: 5, Interesting

    The unfortunate thing about Blu-Ray is its BD+ DRM feature, which has not yet been turned on. While Blu-Ray and HD-DVD both use AACS, Blu-Ray's BD+ is an additional layer of DRM which has not yet been broken. The reason you aren't hearing about this is that people think Blu-Ray has been freed to the same extent that HD-DVD has, when this really isn't the case. All it will take is for Blu-Ray Disc publishers to start using BD+ on their titles (which we can expect to see in a few months) and at that point our hopes of ever seeing free HD disc player software will be dashed once again.

    For now, as a user who wants to play HD content with free software, I'm going to advocate the use of HD-DVD and not Blu-Ray.

  7. Re:Wow, this is huge by brewer13210 · · Score: 5, Informative

    Easy...shelf space. Stocking both would essentially require them to stock two of everything, which isn't optimal if you're trying to provide a wide selection to your customers.

  8. Rampant grammar-Nazism by Sunburnt · · Score: 5, Funny

    Blockbuster now plans to stock Blu-ray only in 1450 of it's stores, but says the 250 stores with the HD-DVD movies will be kept on the shelf.

    What sort of shelf can fit 250 retail stores, exactly?

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    1. Re:Rampant grammar-Nazism by fbjon · · Score: 4, Funny

      The continental shelf.

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  9. DOH! ... or ... by Colin+Smith · · Score: 4, Insightful

    "How to close the door after the horse has bolted." By the BlockBuster management

    The future ain't DVD, of any format. The future be network distributed content, no matter what the US film industry wants you to think.

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  10. Re:Let me be the first to say by aristotle-dude · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Yet others of us are happy. I bought my PS3 as a bluray player first and potentially a console second. Now with the most recent firmware update it is also my upscaling DVD player and a wireless media extender for my mac.

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  11. News That Doesn't Matter by LightPhoenix7 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    While this is somewhat interesting, the problem is that it doesn't matter at all. Neither HD-DVD nor Blu-ray has managed to get any sort of decent penetration into the home market aside from enthusiasts. There are a couple of reasons for this.

    Firstly, there's price. I'm not just talking the price of players here, though that is a factor right now. The big thing is that the vast majority of people do not own televisions that will benefit from a higher-quality format. The cost of having a television that will benefit from this has to be added on to the startup cost, and that price hasn't seemed like it's gone down at all. Sure, you can get high-def 22" sets - but with a set that small, the difference between DVD and HD-format is pretty nullified. Again, only enthusiasts will notice a difference.

    Another big reason is customer fatigue. DVDs have only relatively recently obtained high penetration in the home market - in no part thanks to cheap players from Walmart and other discount stores. Now customers are being asked once again to spend money to upgrade their collections... and as I said above, the startup price is not trivial for marginal improvement in quality. No, there are no MPAA-Nazis... oh, there are. My point is, no one is forcing them to upgrade - but on the other hand, the mass amount of customers just don't care.

    Another thing I might point out is that the major indicator of trends - the porn industry - hasn't chosen a format yet. In fact, they're pretty much eschewing physical media for the internet. So, were I to be a betting man, I'd say that an online format is going to be the next big thing - and we're already seeing that with sites like YouTube.

    So, in the long run, this isn't really news at all, this is just a blip on the radar.

  12. Obligatory Conspiracy by urbanriot · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Blockbuster is owned by Viacom. Viacom owns Paramount Pictures. Paramount is one of the proponents of Blu-Ray.

  13. Re:Wow, this is huge by $RANDOMLUSER · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Parser error: you used "wide selection" and "Blockbuster" in the same thought.
    Blockbuster only stocks "hits". And not for very long, at that.

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  14. That's the Microsoft meme by SuperKendall · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Digital distribution is the way of the future, not Blu-Ray or HD DVD discs. Isn't netflix already selling movie downloads?

    Microsoft sure thinks this is the way. That's why they backed HD-DVD, to try and keep the format war going long enough to make sure Microsoft is in control of the majority of digital distribution via Live and to fragment physical formats.

    However, what is not being factored in here are two issues:

    1) Size and thus quality of downloads.

    2) DRM

    You can download HD media today, but even the 720p stuff Microsoft offers takes a while. As 1080p sets become more popular, there simply are not a lot of people who will be able to download 1080p versions of movies over the network, for many many years to come as fiber is slowly built out to homes. A physical Blu-Ray disc offers 50 GB of storage - how long will it be before you can download anything near that amount in any kind of reasonable time? Even with torrents a few GB can take a while.

    On top of that, the video people buy online is not really very transferable - Apple comes close by being able to also put video on an iPod, but it's still not something you can share. So people will be inclined to buy some video online, but if they really like a show or movie still pick up a physical disc for that just so they can share it or carry it around between devices easier.

    P.S. Yes Netflix offers movies, but not all of them and only online streaming. A cool way to check out a bit of this or that but not very practical for watching whole movies, and nowhere near the quality even of DVD, much less Blu-Ray!

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  15. Re:someone's getting paid off by DrXym · · Score: 4, Informative
    Someone's getting paid off. With no clear winner in the format war, it doesn't make sense that they would want to stock both.

    Define clear winner. Toshiba has been heavily subsidizing its players to make them sell, yet it's still had to slash its 2007 sales estimates almost in half. Sales of Blu Ray discs outstrip HD DVD almost two to one and the format has the support and backing of the majority of electronics companies and every major studio except one.

    It's not a question of if HD DVD will fail but when. Now perhaps some cheap HD DVD players will charge over the hill and save the day, but I think it may be too late for that.

    That doesn't mean Blu Ray has set the world alight - it's still transitioning from early adopter to mainstream. But it looks inevitable that in a few years the only things selling in your local store will be DVDs and BDs.

  16. One format means no more price wars by Templar · · Score: 4, Informative

    It's a shame it's going this way. I was an early supporter of Blu-ray, but now I'd be much happier to see HD DVD win (or at least live on for a while).

    Reasons to support BD:
    - Sony & Disney catalogs
    - More storage

    Reasons to support HD DVD:
    - Universal catalog
    - Less DRM, no region codes (imports!)
    - Easier to author your own content
    - No censorship by factories

    Reasons to hope both stay alive:
    - Price wars