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Industry Insider Blasts Comcast

gordette writes "I'm posting this because Comcast did the same thing to me that this journalist describes — held my HD channels hostage by insisting that I shell out for an expensive cable package. The journalist is blasting Comcast for their 'shakedown' of consumers, and is doing so in full view of industry insiders. She also links to an earlier blog post describing Comcast's Motorola DVR problems."

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  1. "back charges" by farkus888 · · Score: 3, Informative

    comcast once required a notarized letter from my landlord stating that I was not resident at a particular address while a previous resident was before I could turn on my service. unless of course I wanted to pay off the $300 in back charges said resident owed. left me without internet for a week since my landlord was on vacation. needless to say they are getting canceled the day FIOS is available in my area.

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    1. Re:"back charges" by SeaFox · · Score: 2, Informative

      You'll be surprised how many deadbeats are out there when it comes to cable bills.

      A household of three people can easy amass a $1000+ debt to a cable company by having someone who lives there sign up for service under their name after someone [i]else[/i] there has been disconnected for non-payment. This is just one address we're talking about here.

      People balk at having to give their SSN's to the cable company to get service, but it's information they want so they can send you to a collection collections if you don't pay or run off with digital boxes (those thing can run $300-$500 [i]apiece[/i] depending on the model's capabilities.

      The notarized letter sounds like overkill, but they could have chosen to charge you a deposit instead. I know of one cable company that did this if anyone was signing up for service around the time colleges started, because students were especially bad about skipping out at the end of the spring term with unpaid bills.

    2. Re:"back charges" by Acid-Duck · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I'm guessing this is standard practice for lots of companies, think about how easy it would be for someone to run up a big bill and all of a sudden call the provider and pretend to be someone else who just moved in to avoid paying the huge bill. it probably has been done before (just show up to pay your bill caash every month, no credit cards to verify your name)and that's why they're so strict now. I'm with them on this one.

      Erik

    3. Re:"back charges" by bkr1_2k · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Well that will certainly teach them. Pay them now and punish them later. How is that going to prove anything? They've already gotten what they want from you. It's almost harder to cancel service than to get it started.

      This is the exact problem with Comcast. They have no problem telling people they don't need your business and we as consumers seem to think that's somehow acceptable. If you don't need hi speed for work, don't pay them a penny and suffer the dial up for a while.

      They tried to double charge me every month for nearly a year and I finally gave up. I told them they could cancel my service and I wasn't paying the money I didn't owe them. I figured one negative credit hit (which mysteriously never showed up) was not worth the effort of wasting my time arguing with them over a couple hundred dollars. Comcast can kiss my ass.

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    4. Re:"back charges" by bkr1_2k · · Score: 2, Insightful

      How many pay-per-view movies and "events" can you watch in a month? Now consider you have 3 college kids living in the same house, all with a light courseload. Big bills can't be that difficult.

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    5. Re:"back charges" by Buran · · Score: 2, Insightful

      So you support the notion that companies are going to blame this guy for something someone else did?

      Hell no.

      I would have told them "Thank you for informing me that you do not want my business. I will now be spending $x with your competitor, who is willing to not treat me badly for something someone I don't even know has done." *click*

    6. Re:"back charges" by OldHawk777 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Cable companies and executives has a lobby on /..

      This is corporatist welfare economics. Like the RIAA/DMCA/... US citizens are persecuted, until proved innocent.

      If companies can not control/secure their resources/assets, then they need to go out of business. Persecuting the innocent for proof of innocent, or make additional welfare payments to support a Bad-Biz model is the real crime to a democratic nation and a capitalist economy. The more BadBiz models (with Government permission/protection) being persecuted and requiring innocent customers to prove innocence, honor, and honesty the less the USA is FREE, DEMOCRATIC, CAPITALIST. IOW: Stop the persecution, fyck all plutocrat corporatist and their welfare BadBiz models.

      One corporatist welfare BadBiz model that reminds me of the old 1950/60s mafia loan sharks is the present credit card rates today. However, that may be due to inflation (think about it ... "percentage"). Today annual mafia percentage is 100% plus, but balloon-loans that take the money and the property are close to the mafia rates. In the USA we now call all this good ethical, honest, and open Biz/Gov models/laws/...FUS. Yes, like the acronym FUS corporatist, plutocrats, politicians...

      Don't worry, Be Happy, !HAVEFUN!

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    7. Re:"back charges" by will_die · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I found an easy way to deal with services like that. Call them up and when they say someone else is already at that address tell them that person died and you just moved in.
      You can try to explain that the other person has moved, etc but when you add that the other person is dead it seems to clear most problems. People want to be a little more helpful and with the other person dead it cuts off most avenues that they can take.
      This also works with paypal, if you forgot your password don't want to go with the hassle of sending in the paperwork to prove who you are and don't have any money in the account send them a email telling them that the former holder at that email account has died and you want them to kill that account from thier records. Wait a day or two and the account is gone and you can resign up. I have done it twice with my own account and once with someone else; since then I have started to use Bruce Schneier's Password Safe.

    8. Re:"back charges" by zero_offset · · Score: 2, Interesting

      People balk at having to give their SSN's to the cable company to get service, but it's information they want so they can send you to a collection collections if you don't pay or run off with digital boxes (those thing can run $300-$500 [i]apiece[/i] depending on the model's capabilities.

      I've been wondering how much a DirecTV's DVR hardware is worth (in theory, not if I actually tried to sell it). I stopped the DTV installers from stealing my dual-tuner Tivo, but they left the DTV DVR here anyway. DTV was supposed to send a prepaid sticker so I could return it, but that was eight or nine months ago. The damned thing is brand new, in the box. At the one year mark, I'm liberating the hard drive and taking the rest out in the woods to shoot it.

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    9. Re:"back charges" by Kwirl · · Score: 5, Informative

      For the record, you are NOT required to give them your SSN. They ask for it for account verification purposes, but in most states they are not classified as a utility service provider, and are not allowed to require your SSN. When I worked there, simply stating that you did not want to divulge your SSN was all I needed to hear before I moved along to the next item in setting up a new customer.

    10. Re:"back charges" by Lumpy · · Score: 3, Informative

      The thing about the SSN is bullshit. Comcast knows it and had their asses handed to them with a SSN fiasco from 2 years ago. The Drivers license number or State ID number is enough information to find and "get" you. comcast knows this, but they want the SSN to credit check you so they can assess your risk from day one. (letting you float a full 28 days before sending reminders or sending you the nasty-gram 5 days after your due date based on your credit score, or even shutting off your box the day after your due date if your Credit score is low enough)

      That is the only reason they want your SSN.

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    11. Re:"back charges" by plague3106 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      You're right, but they also have the right to refuse service without it. Even a video store can do that.

    12. Re:"back charges" by FuzzyDaddy · · Score: 4, Interesting
      When I moved into my house, the elderly lady who owned it previously had moved out rather suddenly and unexpectedly due to health issues. She hadn't disconnected anything, so the phone was still in her name. When I called the phone company to have them terminate her phone service and start mine, they initially refused.

      It was the weirdest thing. I told them I'd be happy for her to keep paying for my phone usage, but I thought it would be fairer if I paid for it myself. In the end her daughter had to call up and cancel the phone service.

      I now use DSL and VOIP from speakeasy. I've ditched the phone company, and find my perpetual bile against the phone company is slowly, after several years, starting to wane.

      Now I'm starting to hate my bank.

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    13. Re:"back charges" by 99BottlesOfBeerInMyF · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I think I have one of the worst experiences with Comcast.

      I can top that. I was an early cable internet adopter. Back in the day, the local service did not provide cable modems, you had to buy your own. So, of course that is what I did. Eventually, the company I had service from was bought out, and then the area was swapped to Comcast who took over the service. Okay, aside from being incompetent hacks whose service was spotty and support was clueless, all was well and good. Then I moved. The demanded I give them back "their" cable modem. I told them they never gave me one. They did not believe me and required I dig up a 4 year old receipt to prove I had bought one. In the end, I did get my credit card statement and they said okay. A few weeks later I got another bill and called them. They said it was their mistake. That happened a dozen times easily, over the course of the next year and then I started getting collections notices from agencies, who I called and told my story to and who all then went away. I was threatened with court numerous times, which I would have welcomed at that point, but they would never follow through with their legal threats so I could get it cleared up.

      I have no idea how much this damaged my credit rating, but I assume significantly. I should be able to bill those bastards for the hours and hours I spent on the phone. You know what the worst part is, right now where I live my choice is Comcast or the local phone co. who wants $60 more than Comcast just for internet service. The fact that my tax dollars subsidized this lousy service and insane prices makes me want to kick a congress critter in the balls. We seriously need telecom reform.

    14. Re:"back charges" by _xeno_ · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I would have told them "Thank you for informing me that you do not want my business. I will now be spending $x with your competitor, who is willing to not treat me badly for something someone I don't even know has done." *click*

      And, in the majority of the US, the response would have been quite simple:

      "What competitor? There's a competitor? You mean satellite? Wait, you live in an apartment, right? Good luck getting that dish approved by your landlord."

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    15. Re:"back charges" by BodhiCat · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Bodhicat has an alternative. I spend my free time reading A German translation of the Lord of the Rings at the local coffee hang-out, Black Dog. When I get tired of reading I can usually find someone to play chess with or have a chat. And its only $1.75 for some really great coffee from a locally owned establishment. Now that is entertainment for nurds.

    16. Re:"back charges" by BosstonesOwn · · Score: 2, Informative

      Actually the landlord can't do much to prevent you from getting satellite tv. But the cable companies do have that attitude.

      http://www.fcc.gov/mb/facts/otard.html#QA explains the dish/antenna thing better then I ever could.

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    17. Re:"back charges" by HouseArrest420 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      You're crying about a week??? lol . Let's see. Your week was due to a back balance that was not yours, and they needed your landlord to say that you're not that person. So one week with abnormal circumstances. Hmmm...you mention FIOS.....Verizon 1 week MINIMUM for installation, and even that isn't guaranteed.

      Everyone cries about what Comcast is or isn't doing, but most of you will switch to Verizon and when your contract is up where do you go after that?? Lol oh yeah...Comcast. And this is across the industry. You cry about one service provider, then when you realize the grass isn't greener on the other side you cry about that one and go back to the one before "or possibly another one"

      None of you can argue these points, disregarding the "special" cases, why? Because I've been doing Communications, every day since the day I joined the Marine corps, and I've done everything from a field radio (think ham radio) to hf, shf, uhf, to Satellite Comm, down networking, and now I just manage a voip networks for multiple companies.

      You can cry all you want...that's your right. But don't be the person that thinks...oh Comcast/Verizon sucks I have a lot of service interruptions so I'm going to Verizon/Comcast to get away from them.

      The ONLY differences between ANY type of company is:

      1) Its customer support}----makes or breaks a company

      2) Price of its service compared to its competition

      3) Oh wait, there is no three

      All the service issues most subscribers experience are industry wide. You want FIOS? Get it. Seeing as Verizon is the first company to make it part of their services I can guarantee there will be/are wide scale issues with service due to:

      1) lack of knowledge on part of techs both new and old

      2) Faulty craftsmanship (this goes with number 1) in that if your fittings are loose water can get in, and anyone that knows anything about fiber knows fiber optic + water = scattered information, or hell...lets just say I use a shitty blade to cut it. Then I wouldn't know there was an issue until you started to complain, and trust me...cut it with a jagged edge and your lucky to half of what you normally would if the cut was smooth.

      And, yes I do want FIOS (if only for the speed), but I'm not going to get it until at least 2 other companies start to provide it (which is coming shortly) only because the first implementation of a "new" system is ALWAYS full of bugs. That's why I laugh when I hear ppl bad mouth Comcast's CDV. I laugh because it's funny for one, and for two, their running the voip service across their OWN cable lines. It NEVER touches the internet, their trying to do something no one has done on a large scale (like Verizon with FIOS) so of course it's going to have bugs, until the people working on the back ends of those systems get used to the system and start to anticipate problems and resolve said issues prior to the customer experiencing any service related issues.
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    18. Re:"back charges" by Grishnakh · · Score: 2, Interesting

      In any case, not all apartments allow dishes.

      Yes, they do. They are legally forbidden from preventing you from installing dishes in your apartment by the FCC. Maybe you're not aware of this, but here in the USA, when a Federal Law says you can do something, a landlord or other private party cannot take this right away from you.

      Now if your apartment doesn't have a good place to mount a dish because you're facing north, or have trees in the way, that's a technical issue. But you can still mount it on your patio or wherever just to piss off the landlord if you want.

      If satellite reception is important to you, it's your responsibility to select an apartment with a viable dish mounting location. It's not like they can just force you to take any unit they want you to have.-

  2. Wow by niceone · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I'm kind of shocked that anyone would shell out $2000 a year for TV. Is that common?

    1. Re:Wow by drawfour · · Score: 5, Informative

      Her breakdown was:

      $102.99 for the DIGITAL GOLD Package which includes: standard cable (limited basic and expanded basic), digital special interest channels, music choice, Starz, Starz Plex, Encore, Encore Plex, HBO, HBO Plex, Showtime, Showtime Plex, and Digital Converter and Remote where applicable;
      $11.95 for DVR with HDTV;
      $45.95 for high speed Internet

      So $46/mo ($552/yr) was for Internet. But to answer your question, I'd say it's fairly common for people to pay something close to what she's paying. Lots of people get the premium channels packages. A few years ago, I had it. Then I moved in with a friend who was a cheap bastard, and all we had was the non-digital expanded basic. Got used to not having all the premium channels, and I got along just fine. Now that I've moved into my own place, I didn't bother with the premium channels. No need, there's plenty of stuff to watch as is.

    2. Re:Wow by Alioth · · Score: 2, Interesting

      But...she's still paying around $1500/year just for TV. I'm absolutely gobsmacked that anyone would pay that much each and every year to watch the box. That's more than I pay towards the fixed costs of a light aircraft!

    3. Re:Wow by Ka+D'Argo · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Yea, very common. I've got a Digital Cable package from Time Warner Cable, we got it in early 2000, and the price of the package has gone up a lot. We didn't get their highspeed cable till a year or two later, so that tacked on another $50/month. I think atm we're paying around $180, for a package that has all the HBO's, Cinemax's, Showtimes, Starz, Encores etc including On Demand channels (though PPV On Demand still has it's own per movie price).

      I just love how every year, like clockwork, they increase the price. And there aren't a ton of new channels being added to justify the cost. We don't have HD, so there's no HDTV channels that need to be there. I'm not sure if it is just costing them more to license out or lease out (however it's done) the channels from companies like HBO and such. I mean I love HBO brand tv shows, watch them all the time, especially On Demand, but I'd never buy them on DVD cause HBO prices their dvd's horribly (like $80 for 13 episodes of The Sopranos? 13 whole episodes? come on...).

      I'd go with another company but there aren't any real broadband cable providers, everyone else only has DSL and since my PC is ancient, it can't use a USB connector for the modem and I really don't want some house-call technician installing a DSL card (we're a low budget family so if he fubars my 7 year old PC, I'm screwed).

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    4. Re:Wow by bkr1_2k · · Score: 4, Insightful

      You're a "low budget family" paying $180/month for cable?

      I think we have different definitions of low budget.

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    5. Re:Wow by ScolopendraGigantea · · Score: 2, Informative
      http://www.dell.com/content/products/results.aspx/ dimen?c=us&cs=04&dt=List&l=en&s=bsd

      For less than two months worth of cable you can get a machine significantly newer than your 7 year old PC. If you're that strapped, maybe you should reconsider whether you really need "all the HBO's, Cinemax's, Showtimes, Starz, Encores etc including On Demand channels."

      Just saying.

    6. Re:Wow by mjwise · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Two things:

      1) If you can afford $180 a month for cable, you're not low budget. At least not by any standard I would use.

      2) No DSL provider in the continental USA has used internal DSL modems for years. Nearly all use external modems with onboard PPPoE and ethernet connectivity. So, basically, it's no more difficult than setting up a cable modem connection.

      3) You could take two months worth of savings from canceling cable and get a new computer.

    7. Re:Wow by Profane+MuthaFucka · · Score: 3, Funny

      Got used to not having all the premium channels, and I got along just fine.

      Well you're a far better man than I am. I once had to live with just basic cable. I thought I could do it. I thought I was tough. I told myself they have nothing but basic cable in Africa, and since I'm a rich Westerner I should be thankful for what I do have.

      I was wrong. SOO SO wrong.

      The trouble started right away. Shaking, sweating, constant stomach pain. Soon I was having splitting headaches and constantly masturbating. Then, I went nuts and nearly beat a man to death with my bare hands for asking me if I'd seen Sopranos that week. Of course not, I had only basic cable. It took three years in prison for an assault charge for me to realize that I'm just not that strong of a person, and that I had NO BUSINESS not subscribing to the premium channels.

      My hat is off to you sir, I wish I were half the man you are.

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  3. Re:Oh stop whinging by clickclickdrone · · Score: 4, Insightful

    You're missing the point - it's only TV - you can go without it, your life isn't going to end. I used to watch obscene amounts of TV but between work and having children, I don't think the TV ever gets to see kids channels. I reckon I watch maybe an hour a fortnight if I'm lucky. I haven't died yet.

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  4. Re:Oh stop whinging by clickclickdrone · · Score: 2, Insightful

    That should of course have read "anything BUT kids channels."

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  5. Re:Oh stop whinging by vivaoporto · · Score: 5, Informative

    You certainly didn't RTFA. They sold an upgraded (and expensive) package for her promising HD channels but now they are wanting her to upgrade again to another more expensive package in order to get the *real* HD channels. That's the traditional bait and switch, and it doesn't matter if it is TV, medical treatment or a piece of soggy wet paper, it is outright fraud.

  6. Is this EVEN LEGAL ??? by Adult+film+producer · · Score: 5, Funny

    No, I mean, to criticize comcast in a public forum.. there must be a law against making libelous comments directed at corporate america.

    1. Re:Is this EVEN LEGAL ??? by nysus · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Remember when Oprah got sued by the beef industry for expressing her concerns about the safety of meat? Better watch what you say in public about the products you use. Unless it's gushing, fan-boy enthusiasm, you could have the "product libel" lawyers all over you. So, yes, it's safer to just shut up; don't make any waves. It's one of the small prices we have to pay for freedom in this country.

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    2. Re:Is this EVEN LEGAL ??? by nysus · · Score: 4, Interesting

      "For more than 200 years, our country's legal system has refused to recognize 'product libel.' People can maliciously libel a human being and be required to pay damages; but not inanimate products like Corvairs, Pinto fuel tanks, asbestos, the Dalkon Shield, fruits, vegetables and meat products. ... One has only to look back at our history and see how the dissenters of the past -- criticizing tobacco, coal dust, useless over-the-counter drugs and a variety of health-damaging food additives and pesticides -- have been proven right again and again. ... These ranchers know they will not be awarded any money by the time their case is disposed of in Texas or before the higher courts. The main objective of these frivolous lawsuits is not money; it is to send a chilling message to millions of people that if Winfrey can be sued for speaking her mind about not eating hamburgers then they had better keep their opinions to themselves."

      -- Ralph Nader

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  7. Re:Oh stop whinging by Mistlefoot · · Score: 3, Informative

    And she was hardly fleeced. To quote "When I upgraded to HD in 2005, Comcast never disclosed - not once - that they would require a shift into an even more expensive cable package.". Oh my god. Comcast didn't indicated that almost 2 years later the price might go up. I'll be Comcast currently offer many more HD channels then they did in 2005. And of course, by her logic, they should do that without raising their price. Because offering this additional content (and HD content cost more to feed then normal channels) does cost.

    I notice as well that the customer rents her HD terminal - hardly like she's being forced to stay.

    She could choose Direct TV (satellite) - but oh, wait, they charge $9.99/month for HD content. Hmm.. Isn't the same $120 per year she is complaining that comcast want?

    I'll also note that on May 7 this same author writes "I'm a Comcast customer, too. But my experience with Comcast, bar some exceptions, has been fairly positive. For one thing, the system is incredibly reliable. Outages just don't happen, at least in my area." (http://www.multichannel.com/blog/1300000330.html? starting=13) It's amazing how her attitude can change so quickly when she finds out she'll have to pay more money for more content.

  8. Starting a inde cable by calcutta001 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I am absolutely frustrated with the cable companies in my area. Be it comcast, RCN or WOW. First the charges are sky high, then the internet service is throttled. They keep pushing the phone service. If you have to get HD you have to 'rent' their DVR boxes. I dont need a DVR because I have a HTPC but I am still paying for it.

    I have wondered what would it take to start a community cable service, which provides basic HD (OTA reception is bad) and basic cable. Internet service offloaded in bulk to a competing ISP. Has any one any experience in such project, any links on how one can achieve this ?

    I know one has to get licenses from the local municipality for providing utility, besides the politics, what are the technical challenges. Is it even doable ??

    1. Re:Starting a inde cable by MarkGriz · · Score: 4, Funny

      I have wondered what would it take to start a community cable service, which provides basic HD (OTA reception is bad) and basic cable. Internet service offloaded in bulk to a competing ISP. Has any one any experience in such project, any links on how one can achieve this ?

      You might try here and click on the "Request a Miracle" link.

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  9. Hell, people shell out a $1200 for cell service. by Shivetya · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I know quite a few people with 1 or two kids who pay nearly $100 a month for cell service.

    Combine that with all the other monthlies people tend to accumulate and no wonder most are always "broke"

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  10. Cable companies will soon be parasitic relics by Belacgod · · Score: 5, Insightful
    I've gone completely computer. I buy a lot of DVDs, download through Itunes, and watch off network websites (specifically Heroes on NBC.com). The last one is free, but relatively low-quality (but will tide me over 'til the DVDs arrive). A whole season of a good show goes for

    I think this is the future of content provision--over the internet, straight from the content companies' websites. Speed and quality will increase, the content companies will start charging on a pay-per-view or subscription basis for the good stuff/good quality, a large number of individual plans will proliferate, and the cable companies will be reduced to ISPs.

  11. Re:Oh stop whinging by clickclickdrone · · Score: 3, Informative

    This is quite surprising. I always thought the US was awash with options. In the UK we only have one cable company now after the two main ones merged and changed their name. ADSL is all handled by BT but resold via the hundreds of ISPs so you choose who you want based on price/download cap etc. WIth the local loop being slowly unbundled, speeds are rising. Most people have the option of 8Mb ADSL but those who have been unbundled can go to 24Mb I think. Not sure about cable - I think that's 10Mb - it was when I used to be Blueyonder.
    As far as TV goes, it's cable via Virgin Media, Sky (spit) if you want digital Sat and Freeview for digital via an aerial. There is of course also analogue TV via aerial but that's about to be switched off - a pity as a good analogue signal beats the current crop of digital ones hands down.
    Many operators are now offering bundles with phone/TV/broadband and mobile (cell) all in one package assuming you can find one that suits your usage.
    HiDef is still in its infancy with a handful of Sky and Cable channels at premium prices.

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  12. just cancel by nanosquid · · Score: 2, Informative

    I have Comcast for Internet access and am reasonably happy with them. I think their cable TV channels are way overpriced, so I'm not subscribing to anything there, but, then, I have never watched much cable.

    So, why not just cancel? You have alternatives: DSL, satellite, OTA, other cable companies.

    1. Re:just cancel by peragrin · · Score: 3, Informative

      no he doesn't. In most of the areas serviced by comcast, and time warner they are the ONLY game in town. They are fighting like mad to keep it that way too, because if they have to compete on price they will lose, fast.

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    2. Re:just cancel by trogdor8667 · · Score: 2, Informative

      I'm in a Comcast town. Back in the 70s it was the Atlanta Cable Company. They came to our small city and said "We'll pay every dime to wire your entire city for cable television. You simply have to agree to not let any other businesses come in and wire the city for cable for 30 years." My city agreed. The non-compete agreement ended a few months ago, and Atlanta Cable became Comcast well over ten years ago. However, Charter is the only other cable company within 100 miles of here, and from what I can tell, Comcast owns 49% of their stock, and makes their decisions for them. So, Charter's not about to come and wire the town.

      You mention satellite. Satellite is great. I'd get Dish in a heartbeat, if my landlord allowed it. So, if you want TV (not just downloading off the internet or over-the-air or DVDs), you're stuck with DISH, DirecTV, Comcast, or nothing. Since I can't use Dish, that breaks it down to Comcast or nothing.

      We're a fairly big city now, but still only have one DSL provider; BellSouth. BellSouth isn't bad, except that they don't offer any speeds over the generic 768kb connection that is the bare minimum they need to consider it "broadband." So, for high-speed internet in my area, once again, its Comcast or nothing.

      So don't say just get real... a lot cities don't have options to go to a competitor when it comes to these situations. And I live IN the city. Don't even get me started on what my friend who lives about 40 miles out has to go through...

    3. Re:just cancel by Kwirl · · Score: 2, Informative

      Your perspective is skewed from the blind hatred of large corporations that is harbored by so many readers here.

      The costs of building and maintaining an efficient broadband network on a nationwide scale is tremendous. Just how many companies do you think could afford to build a system of that scale? Now, the FCC limits Comcast and ALL other cable providers to a MAXIMUM of 30% market penetration. This means in order to provide the entire country with high-speed cable internet, you would need FOUR financially thriving cable systems. It would make no sense for either Comcast or Cox to compete for the same market, because doing so would just mean that somewhere else in the country, high speed cable service is being denied. The FCC does this because they are offering the telephone companies a means to compete with the cable companies.

      Yes the cable industry spends millions and millions of dollars a year lobbying the government. Does that make them evil? Take a look at http://www.csuchico.edu/~kfountain/alpha.htmlthis list of lobbyist organizations and keep telling yourself that lobbyist groups are reserved for evildoers. The fact is that lobbying the government is the most efficient way to get things done. You want marijuana legalized? Start raising funds for a lobbyist organization, such as the ones for tobacco and alcohol, and you will start seeing results when enough billions get pumped into the right pockets.

      Comcast is a business, that wants to make money. In Slashdot mythology, that is a defining characteristic of evil, but I would challenge you all to show me a business plan to create a free nationwide network of broadband coverage that offers the technical support and capabilities that Comcast allows. They make money by providing a service, and if it bothers you that the FCC regulates geographical competition among the cable industry, then maybe YOU need to lobby someone to bully the FCC into removing their 'lets give the phone companies a chance' campaign so that the cable companies can have the logistical option of competing without government imposted regulations on the size of growth.

      Personally, I think it is about on par with what would the PC market look like if the government sanctioned a 30% marketshare cap on Microsoft. Do you really trust the OSS community to pick up the slack for the rest of the 70% of desktop users out there? Which demographic would MS be forced to focus sales towards? Bah, I may have missed some points, but this is just off the top of my head. If you want to correct me, then by all means I welcome constructive feedback, but if you want to just flame me for having a different perspective, just send me a PM and spare the burden of your hatred upon the servers.

    4. Re:just cancel by Aqua_boy17 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      You mention satellite. Satellite is great. I'd get Dish in a heartbeat, if my landlord allowed it.
      We have a law in Florida that prohibits landlords from denying tenant's use of the dishes, as long as they're the small version. It's comforting to know that there's at least one thing about my state that isn't completely screwed up. Someone in your state should start a petition drive to enact the same sort of law.

      During our last round of hurricanes 2 years ago, I got lucky and the cable line was the only thing that went down. Since I had never used it anyway since moving in, I just coiled it up and threw it over the fence. I don't even want their lines attached to my house. Comcast is the absolute worst company I've ever had to deal with. They will never get another dime of my money - even if I have to resort to using my foil hat to capture a signal.
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    5. Re:just cancel by man_ls · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Federal law stipulates that your landlord doesn't have the slightest choice as to whether you can put up a satellite dish if there exists a location where you can place it that doesn't involve bolting it down to his property. It's called the OTARD rules, and while IANAL, I've successfully challenged a large holding company and their attorneys ended up siding with me against the management based on my interpretation of the law to allow me to erect a satellite dish on my patio.

      If the landlord tries anything, you're entitled to either petition the FCC directly, or sue in your District court for an injunction, during the process he is prohibited from taking enforcement action against you either.

      If you'd like more information, feel free to e-mail me at jkoebel#gmail.communism and we'll talk.

    6. Re:just cancel by 99BottlesOfBeerInMyF · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Your perspective is skewed from the blind hatred of large corporations that is harbored by so many readers here.

      Gee, what would it take for a type of organization to get indifferent, uncaring americans to hate them? Oh yeah, piss us off by combining the worst bureaucratic aspects of the DMV (paperwork, employees who are clueless and don't care, expense, lack of internal communication, inability to perform) with all the worst aspects of a ticket scalper (high prices, gouging, differential pricing, bribing police). Large corporations have earned the way we feel about them.

      The costs of building and maintaining an efficient broadband network on a nationwide scale is tremendous. Just how many companies do you think could afford to build a system of that scale?

      Do you mean with or without the hundreds of millions of taxpayer dollars spent to subsidize what the cable company owns today?

      Now, the FCC limits Comcast and ALL other cable providers to a MAXIMUM of 30% market penetration. This means in order to provide the entire country with high-speed cable internet, you would need FOUR financially thriving cable systems.

      A cartel is not functionally any better than a monopoly. Unless those four cable companies both provide service to the same location (which most of them have agreements to avoid) then how is this any better for a consumer. If you have to move to get a reasonable cable provider, the system has failed. Note, it is my understanding that the new FCC rules requiring more than on provider for the majority of homes in an areas (as opposed to each provider taking half the homes in a zip code) was recently mothballed.

      Yes the cable industry spends millions and millions of dollars a year lobbying the government. Does that make them evil?

      That depends upon what they are lobbying for. Claiming that a non-profit organization lobbying for laws that stop pollution is the same thing as a commercial entity lobbying for laws that will force consumers to pay them more and prevent competition, is a pretty lame argument.

      The fact is that lobbying the government is the most efficient way to get things done.

      And that, all by itself is a problem because it favors the wealthy in what is supposed to eb a democracy where everyone has an equal vote and the people are represented by their representatives, not trying to pay them extra to do the right thing.

      In Slashdot mythology, that is a...

      This is called a strawman argument. It is a logical fallacy. You couldn't find anyone to espouse a weak argument, so you claim it is the opinion of "Slashdot."

      Personally, I think it is about on par with what would the PC market look like if the government sanctioned a 30% marketshare cap on Microsoft.

      Sigh. You don't understand the inherent geographical component to cable networks that does not apply to PCs? Besides, the PC industry is not media. If I owned 100% of the PC industry, I still can't control what airs on TV a week before the elections, which is what the market caps for media are for, to stop the terrible abuses that happened when we had no such laws.

      Do you really trust the OSS community to pick up the slack for the rest of the 70% of desktop users out there?

      I trust someone would. If MS had only 30% of the market, most of the problems with OSS would go away. Half of them are interoperability problems that are artificial problems with OSS products and would not exist except for MS's abuse. The rest is the lack of investment in the area because investors know competing against a monopoly who can introduce artificial problems with your new product, is a waste of resources and invest elsewhere.

      Bah, I may have missed some points, but this is just off the top of my head. If you want to correct me, then by all means I welcome constructive f

  13. Comcast HD receivers soon available for sale? by frostycellnex · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I recently added HD to my Comcast subscription, and admit to still being a bit confused by the specifics of Comcast's scheme. On their channel listing, they indicate that with their most basic digital cable package, the HD versions of the broadcast networks (NBC, FOX, CBS, ABC, and PBS) should be accessible. What they don't tell you in that listing, is that currently the only way for you to decode the HD signal transmitted by Comcast is to get their tuner (either in DVR, or standard tuner models), and presently, the only way to do that is to rent the device from Comcast. Now, as I understand from the Comcast sales rep, the only way to get that device is to upgrade to a more expansive cable package, which includes SDTV channels such as ESPN, MTV, etc, and naturally costs more.

    However, the installation technician clued me in to a possible new option. He thought that the tuners would soon be available for sale at Best Buy stores. Now, from Comcast's own channel listing, I'm presuming that I should be able to purchase one of those tuners at a one-time cost, drop back to basic digital cable, and reduce my monthly bill by some $40 a month while still getting at least the broadcast networks in HD. Of the channels currently available to me with my chosen package, the only HD channels that really are of interest to me are the broadcast networks, ESPN (occasionally), and Discovery HD. So it's certainly not worth an additional $40 a month. Were my cable TV subscription not also tied to a lower rate for my cable internet connection, I'd probably just plunk down the cash for an over-the-air tuner and antenna. Come to think of it, at $40 a month, that option might quickly become more cost effective.

  14. Comcast Horror Stories are Common by tekrat · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I had Comcast when I lived in Jersey City. I was one of their first broadband customers in that area. I was also one of their first "Digital" customers in that area.

    #1) I often had to go for months without internet service.
    #2) More than half of my digital channels didn't work.

    I had to buy a new phone every month because their customer service (or lack thereof) had me so frustrated, I would throw the phone against the wall, and I would scream so loudly, my neighbors would call an ambulance.

    I eventually returned their "Digital" box, and told the rep that their service wasn't ready for prime-time. The nail in the coffin for me was when most of the channels showed up as pixelated blocky bits with no sound. It was a waste of time.

    The internet problems, as well as the Digital TV problems, all turned out to be a lack of signal coming into my building. I repeatedly had technicians come over, determine the signal was bad, and proceed to clip the cable coming out of my wall another inch shorter and then leave.

    Finally, they couldn't make the cable any shorter.

    I called Comcast time after time to explain to them that the problem wasn't the short cable in my wall, we'd been through that already. I wanted them to run another cable in from the street, since the cable from the street split 20 ways after it came into my building.

    After about 2 or 3 years of this back and forth issue, a guy came by with an amplifier that sat under my couch to try and amplify the 1/20th of a signal I was getting. That worked for about a week and then I couldn't get the internet.

    A technician replaced my cable modem. That worked for a week, and then stopped.

    Then I was told that they'd have to replace the wiring in the building. That was unfeasible.

    So, again I complained. By this time, I was seriously considering moving.

    By the time they installed the amplifier in the basement as well to amplify the signal before it was split 20 times, I was house hunting (I needed a garage anyhow, and I'd outgrown the condo).

    That worked for a while. But not long.

    I can only wonder if they EVER ran a second line into my building. All I know is that I now have Verizon DSL and Direct TV.

    The only way I'd ever go back to Comcast is if they paid me. I spent more time teaching their tech support people how to do basic networking than I spent at my own job. Frankly, I should send Comcast a bill for $72,000 for consulting.

    They are possibly the WORST corporation I have ever had to deal with. How they got so big with such crappy service I cannot understand. They make Verizon look competent, and that's saying a lot.

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    1. Re:Comcast Horror Stories are Common by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

      My worst customer service experience I ever had was with Comcast, and I was never even a Comcast customer. I was turned over to a collections company for the sum of $19 that I supposedly owed 5 years ago. Like I said, I was never with Comcast but they bought a cable company I was once with and had dropped 5 years before and switched to satellite. I only found out about it because I applied for a car loan. When I called Comcast to ask what this was about, they said they couldn't tell me what the charge was for, but I had to pay it. Asked why nobody had called (my number hasn't changed in twenty years) or written saying I owed this, and they say "don't know just pay it". Ask to speak to a manager. Get hung up on when I ask for a explanation for this charge.

      Now it was only $19, and yes I could of just paid it. But, they pissed me off. I wrote letters of complaint to my State Attorney Generals office, and the State Attorney General where Comcast HQ is. Also, complained to the BBB, FCC, and local Comcast office. Challenged the charge with the collection company, and told them if it wasn't removed from my credit report or I didn't get satisfactory explanation, I would take similar action with them.

      After all this boy did I get people calling and apologizing and asking what they could do to help me.

      Moral, some times it pays to bitch. I figure I made a bunch of people at Comcast lives miserable and cost them at least a few thousand $$$ in all the time the spent answering government complaints. And if somebody had just taken two minutes to politely answer my questions, it could have been avoided. Since that day, I vowed if I ever had to make a choice between Comcast and no Internet / TV service, I would pick the latter.

  15. Re:Oh stop whinging by secretwhistle · · Score: 2, Informative

    I'll cast my last post into the flames:

    I lived in South Dakota in a town with a pop. of 50,000. There were two cable providers and prices were lower and services better because of the competition.

    I lived in Lincoln, Nebraska (pop. 200,000) and got a huge cable package with DVR for less than I'm paying now. Again, there were multiple options.

    Now, in a metro area with a pop. of approximately 1,000,000, I can't get the services I want at a price I want. I can't get the best deal thru my current provider because they don't provide the phone service in my area. They do in other parts of town. I can't run an all-in-one package with the phone company because I can't install a satellite dish.

    Companies like Comcast get away with the abhorrent service record because they climbed into enough back pockets to ensure monopolies in large metro areas. They don't have any reason to keep prices low or provide responsive customer service.

    In a supposed free-market economy, this should be near impossible. But, sadly, it isn't.

  16. Re:Hell, people shell out a $1200 for cell service by speaker+of+the+truth · · Score: 2, Insightful

    no wonder most are always "broke" Its called living above your means and something people do on a fairly regular basis.
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  17. Re:Oh stop whinging by Matisaro · · Score: 2, Informative

    She actually has an old package of gold from at&t and if she wants new channels she has to get the modern package, pretty simple

  18. Money way of solving problems by dino213b · · Score: 3, Interesting

    So I lost the ability to renew my IP address. After a week's time and numerous attempts to regain it, including minimizing my equipment and cabling, the techs finally showed up. They did their job as they were trained; afterwards, they witnessed four or five different pieces of equipment experiencing the same problem I was having and promptly said "Oh, why don't you upgrade to a dedicated IP?"

    "Sure, I'll consider that .. if you can get me a dynamic IP address."

  19. Comcast isn't the only one who's guilty of this... by 8127972 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    ... Rogers cable here in Canada tried a stunt called "Negative Option Billing" (see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Negative_option_billi ng) which sounds sort of like what Comcast is doing. This caused a major outcry across the country that included thousands canceling their cable service. Rogers eventually caved and the practice was made illegal shortly thereafter.

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  20. Re:Oh stop whinging by pallmall1 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    You buy or your don't buy.
    That's not the point. Comcast cut her service level without notification -- basically like getting slammed on cellphone service. What they did was drop the package that she subscribed to (again, without telling her that her package was discontinued) even though her account was in good standing. Just because that package was "grandfathered in" from AT&T before Comcast took over the cable in that area doesn't mean that Comcast can just drop the package that current subscribers have. They can raise the price of that package along with system wide rate hikes, but if the channels in that package are available on the system, they have to be included in that package. I had a similar situation with COX about two years ago, so unless the FCC regulations have changed, Comcast may be violating some rules. Comcast probably changed the lineups without making provisions for legacy packages. This may have been unintentional, but the fact that they did not notify legacy package subscribers of the change should raise questions. The lack of notification could be an oversight, or it could be because they realized they made a mistake and thought they could quietly get away with it, or it could be the result of a plan to illegaly force subscribers to "upgrade" their packages. In any case, there are probably other packages that have been affected, and the FCC should investigate the matter. It may just be TV, but TV is part of the fabric of modern society just the same.
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  21. A utility screwin with you, mercy me !!!!! by gelfling · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The funny thing is that companies REALLY DON'T care if you drop them or not. This is not a rhetorical statement.

    MCI - My MCI Neighborhood phone line. It started out at $49.95. Now it's up to $54.95 for 100% exactly the same service. Of course between junk fees and taxes the true cost is about $77/month

    Sprint - My cell phone bill has 'errors' in the vicinity of 5% every month. Every month. For the last 3 years. I would rank customer service somewhere between Gitmo and prison rape. And the retail stores are in fact useless for anything other than new customers. That's actually a fact they will verify if you ask them. It's debatable whether the level of lying they perform when you try to buy something from them crosses into the realm of fraud. In either case they don't care. As an experiment ask them to verify the price they tell you with what's on their website. They will simply hang up on you without comment.

    CIGNA Healthcare - Cannot verify over the phone whether I am a subscriber or not, to the pharmacy. I could understand if they refused to because HIPPA is the new holy grail of an excuse to refuse to 'do' customer service. No CIGNA actually can't. Their online systems don't work well enough to do that. But hey my call is very important to them.

    Time-Warner - well their service relatively speaking is ok. It works and the bills keep coming. But when the service drops out because of some technical glitch, even in some cases for more than a day they suddenly speak only Ebonics when it comes to rebates.

    Xbox support - Just give up. They're in India. They can't understand what you're saying and you can't understand them. They literally cannot speak English well enough to communicate with you. Hang up the phone and keep calling till you find someone who does.

    Mitsubishi USA - Their official policy is to have their lawyers send you a threatening letter if you complain about one of the dealerships. In this case Leith Mitsu of Raleigh, NC. Even though they have service bulletins up the wazoo they will not address any of the issues unless you pay for them. And the dealership told me with a straight face that parking my car outside invalidated the warranty. The national network's response to a complaint is to send out a letter telling you to go to hell and if you persist in writing to them they will sue you for something.

  22. Crock by Dachannien · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Digital cable is a crock anyway. It's wrapped up tight in DRM, and not just the DRM that the cable company needs to ensure you're not stealing from them. There's no chance of being able to use a custom-built PVR, for example, to record digital cable, which means you're either at the whim of TiVo or your cable company, neither of which has a stellar track record when it comes to not interfering with your rights as a consumer. They charge you extra money to get you on board a service that is a net benefit for them due to the reduced bandwidth, and then they charge you even more any chance they get.

    And now the various states are passing legislation to take away regulatory power from municipalities. They're pretty much the only thing that stands between us and monopolistic abuse in many cases, because the states sure don't care.

    And some people actually think that net neutrality is a bad thing. What's going on with cable TV should be proof enough that without net neutrality, we're screwed. Lack of enforcement of net neutrality is the same as subtle deregulation of the cable TV industry - it lets the cable companies use their monopoly (or duopoly, if there's a DSL-providing phone company in the area) to abuse their customers.

    1. Re:Crock by Chuckaluphagus · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Sorry, that just isn't true in all cases. I know that some cable providers encrypt the digital cable feed, but it seems that there are a number that don't, as was discussed a few weeks ago: http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/06/05/195225 1

      In my case, I have a home-built PVR and digital cable (RCN Chicago). Works like a charm. The digital cable is unencrypted QAM, so I have an HDTV card (Kworld HD PCI-115) that supports QAM. No DRM, no encryption, works well. I was worried when RCN was pushing to go all-digital in my building, but it actually has been an improvement. I can record anything that comes over the line, burn it to DVD, compress down to watch on the commute, whatever I want. If you're worried about switching to digital cable or HD cable because you have a PVR and don't want to lose that functionality, check first to see whether your local cable provider is encrypting the stream. If not, you're good to go.

  23. Sets with QAM tuners work fine by SIGBUS · · Score: 4, Informative

    My Sharp Aquos set has a QAM tuner for cable, as well as an ATSC tuner for over-the-air reception; also, I have a pcHDTV HD-5500 in one of my systems, and it also works with both QAM and ATSC. Both work just fine on the unencrypted local HD broadcast channels. I'm on Comcast in the Chicago area (Romeoville front-end).

    When I was shopping for the HD set, I specifically made sure that what I was buying had a QAM tuner. I was not about to take a salesman's word for it.

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  24. Comcast is fine for me... by EmagGeek · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I've had comcast service for about 5 years now, and I have not had a single Internet outage. I also have not had any TV outages, except for the initial setup time when I moved to my townhouse.

    When I ordered digital cable, the guy came out to drop off the box and asked if he could measure my signal level. It was just good enough (3dB of margin) so just to be safe, he replaced the cable ends on both sides of the cable from the basement to the jack in the living room, made me a new cable for the TV using their ultra-high-quality coax and ends (they do NOT skimp on cable), and a new splitter in the basement.

    A while passed, and I ordered a second box with DVR capability and an HDMI output for my panel. The installer came out and dropped off the box, and when I called to activate it, it wouldn't activate. They had him back at my house within 20 minutes. He again measured the signal and discovered there wasn't enough at the new box. So, he checked the feed into the basement - still too low. He then went outside to the outdoor junction box and measured there, and it was fine. Apparently, my neighbor had some contractors doing work and they nicked the underground cable while they were installing a new sliding door.

    Anyway, the technician said the underground cable was bad. I asked what my options were, and he said he could call for a digging crew to come out in 4-6 weeks. He then walked over to his truck, grabbed a shovel, and buried me a new line from the outdoor junction box and the feed into my house, and everything worked fine after that.

    So, if Comcast is so universally evil, I've certainly never seen it...

  25. Who is this woman? by LMacG · · Score: 2, Interesting

    TFS calls her both an "industry insider" and a "journalist," but I can't see any evidence of either. She's a blogger with a complaint about Comcast - something not in short supply. She's not really a very good writer either, but that's another topic ...

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  26. Simple by Fantastic+Lad · · Score: 2, Interesting
    Get rid of your TV, don't own a cell phone, get a basic land-line account and a dial-up service.

    After getting totally screwed over by Bell's DSL 'service' for several months, I got fed up and dropped back to a third party dial-up ISP. Wow. No more headaches, and I realized that there was very little about the internet which I needed high speed for anyway.

    Interestingly, the trouble with my DSL account, (my login and passwords being locked out and nobody on the service help end being able to figure out why or how to fix it, setting up new accounts where the same thing would happen, lots of head scratching, blah, blah, blah), all started when I began posting mountains of political stuff during the launch of the war in Iraq. It had been a fine service up until that point. --The crap the establishment was trying to pull at that time was amazing, and the holes in all the stories were typically open only during the first few hours/days of an operation, so research speed was a priority.


    -FL

  27. Re:Oh stop whinging by plague3106 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Oh my god. Comcast didn't indicated that almost 2 years later the price might go up.

    Read what is written again. Its not that the price went up, its that they silently forced her into a higher, more expensive tier. That's something I would expect to be told about, and not something I'd expect to be forced to do.

  28. Re:Oh stop whinging by Lumpy · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Also people forget that there are other cheaper options.

    Get an ATSC tuner and a decent small/medium antenna. I get more ATSC digital channels OTA than I do regular analog.
    Get a dish. Dish network+DSL is almost 1/2 the price of Comcast cable+Cablemodem and I get WAY-way-WAY better service. All channels are clear so my linux PVR box record them perfectly for recompression to xvid. DSL is incredibly faster than cable simply because the latency and jitter are far lower (Own cablemodem kiddies in online death-matches all the time because I have DSL) Voip works better over DSL because of the above reasons as well.

    And yes, this is coming from an Ex Comcast guy. I drank their coolaid, I did the rah rah rah we are so cool! dances... and only when you sample the competition do you realize how badly we were screwing our customers. Properly installed and with the $29.99 upgraded dish does NOT have rain fade (and i am firing through the edge of a tree with a bigger dish and aimed correctly) I don't get light interference on higher channels because the Cable guys cant be bothered with adjusting the tilt compensation on their Cable run to my home, or the tap on the pole is 15 years old and needs to be replaced and they refuse to do so.

    Yes you can live without TV and boradband, but there are other options out there, lots of them. Hell cant get DSL? do you have line of sight to a friends that can? set up a 802.11g point to point link, it's dead easy and your buddy will like you splitting the bill. (just dont do that in Sparta, MI the sheriff, Officer Milanowski, will probably shoot you for it.)

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  29. Re:Oh stop whinging by Lockejaw · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Does being "the provider" mean they get to choose which of their own terms they have to adhere to?

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  30. YACHTS (Yet another Comcast Horror/Tragedy Story) by Seakip18 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    My Yacht isn't as much about the company but the installers they choose to come out and put the modem in. They were pleasent enough and were expedient. They set the modem up, registered us via the comcast email they gave us and were all-in-all a stand up crew. We paid them with a check and thanked them.

    2 weeks later, the friend whos name was on the service/check, was suddenly out of funds. We took a look at the charges, especially one under INTERNET DADDY KING or something, and, after calls being made, found out that our friend's account had been used to purchase pr0n account @ the tune of 39.95 a month.

    After some questioning and a group hug, we'd eliminated all three of us fr. We'd gotten an email account that had been used to sign up for the, um, account. You guessed it. The Comcast email, that only 3 people knew the password and name to, had been used to sign up for the service as a bank draft. We figured that the installers were the aim of our charge here.

    Fraud complaints to Comcast are still ongoing.

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  31. More Comcast horror stories by Zero_DgZ · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I mean, while we're all complaining and such.

    I've tangled with them a couple of times. The first insult was raising my cable internet bill five bucks but dropping my download rate by about 256 k/sec. But that wasn't the good one. I live in a house that's been subdivided into apartments, and Comcast was the only outfit that consistently got my address wrong. My phone people? Fine. Electricity? Fine. Water? Fine. Comcast? Half the time they'd send my bill to my neighbor, and after a while they apparently got confused and insisted that I hadn't paid a bill at all for one month (I did) and demanded the payment and late charges. I got the check returned from my bank as well as the statement showing Comcast mysteriously cashing this check and taking my money, despite their claims to the contrary. After going 'round and 'round with them on this for over a month their position became "we're bigger than you, therefore it is impossible for us to make mistakes, so it must be your problem." At this point, they quit sending me bills entirely, but felt the need to draft rude and nasty people to call my cell phone at all hours of the day and night insulting me and demanding payment for bills I never got, trying to push me into giving them my credit card number (ha!). I dropped their sorry asses about a week into this and went to Verizon. Even without FIOS, Verizon's higher-tier package is cheaper than Comcast and about half again as fast in my area. Duh.

    At my sister's place everyone is a lardass stereotypical American TV watcher, so they have Comcast digital cable. Comcast mysteriously tried to charge my sister for over 300 dollars worth of pay-per-view porno one month. Obviously, my sister was a bit miffed. This is a household of three women and my nephew, who shrewdly points out that he has no need for pay-per-view because he has internet access. Comcast claimed that the charges came from the ID number of the cable box in my sister's room, which is barely ever used and when it is... Is used by my (straight, 35 year old) sister. After threatening my sister with legal action, putting black marks all over her credit report, &c., Comcast finally figured out (not that this was much of a stretch) that this actually precipitated from someone using a stolen/hacked cable box randomly trying ID's until they got one that worked. My sister suggested that she get a new cable box from Comcast, even pay for it, and they refused to do it. Naturally, two months later, it happened again. And despite documented phone calls and a letter from Comcast stating that they knew about the problem, they threatened my sister again, and again refused to provide her a new cable box or ID number.

    I'm trying to push them to go FIOS and/or take Verizon's digital cable package when it arrives in their area.

  32. Re:Mod Parent Up by Chuckaluphagus · · Score: 2, Informative

    Manufacturer's website for an HDTV will usually say if it has a QAM tuner in addition to ATSC/NTSC. Vizio does this for their televisions, for instance, it's one of the reasons I went with them. Consumer Reports (consumerreports.org) will also say whether a television they're reviewing has a QAM tuner. QAM tuners are still not common, though, so your selection is somewhat limited.

  33. Re:Free TV-get what you pay for by orgelspieler · · Score: 2, Informative

    If you live in a major market, you can still get reasonably good TV for free. In Houston there's something like ten English-speaking channels over the air-waves. Most of the signals are pretty strong, and if you get a good set of bunny ears, you can pick up some of them as clear as cable. The only reason we got Dish last year was because my wife was pregnant and moody and got really mad about the whole Monday-Night-Football-on-ESPN thing.

    I wonder how all of this is going to change when the airwaves go digital...

  34. Speaking of Comcast Crap by Nom+du+Keyboard · · Score: 2, Interesting
    Got a telephone call from Comcast Internet last night. They pointed out to me that I currently have 6Mbs download service, and that I could upgrade to "blazingly faster" 8Mbs download speeds for free for the next three months. I had to drag it out of them that my current $36/month rate ($46 after 6 month promotion expires) would jump to $52/month.

    I then pointed out that I had yet to get 6Mbs downloads even on testing sites that can really pump out the bits to you, and why pay more for 8MBs that I also won't get on my very congested local loop? They had no answer for that one, because Comcast had never guaranteed any level of actual service, and in fact I believe their ToS specifically denies any guaranteed level of download performance.

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  35. Re:Comcast sucks donkey balls... by badasscat · · Score: 2, Informative

    Or he could call Dishnetworks or Directv and have them come and install a satellite setup for him.

    There are tradeoffs with every TV service. The parent said he was waiting for FiOS... which I have, so I can tell you from experience that there are tradeoffs with that too. I've also had DirecTV in the past.

    With FiOS, you pay the highest prices anywhere. Oh, they advertise "$95 a month" for their three service package (TV, phone, internet), but they nickel and dime you to death. They charge $12.95 for an HD-DVR - same box was $5 from Cablevision. They have tons of little extra fees tacked on that they don't tell you about. My "$95 a month" plan ended up quoted to me at $121 a month over the phone, and I actually pay at least $155 a month when all is said and done. With Cablevision, getting the same package of services I was paying $126 a month. So FiOS is an expensive option.

    FiOS is also the least reliable of all the services I have used. Cablevision was honestly rock solid for all three services - no problems. With FiOS, I have channel breakups almost every day, I get audio dropouts, and my router dies at least once a week (you have to use their router).

    You may as well ask why I switched... at this point, I really don't know. I'd heard FiOS had the best picture quality, and that may be true, when it's working properly. I had no problem with my Cablevision picture quality, though I moved to FiOS at the same time as I moved from a 26" HDTV to a 42" HDTV so I can't really say for sure which has the better PQ. But now I'm locked into a year contract. And I don't want to change my phone number again.

    As for DirecTV, you know what they say about it going out in the rain? Well, it's true. Oh, it's not as big of a problem as their competitors' commercials make it out to be, but it does happen. It may not be an issue if you live in a dry state like Arizona, but I live in the northeast and we get some wicked thunderstorms in the summer. My DTV was going out about once a week, sometimes for hours at a time when I had it.

    Also, DirecTV is well known for awful picture quality. They're the standard-bearers of "HD-lite" - taking a 1920x1080 signal and down-rezzing it to 1280x1080. They were sued in court over their commercials that advertised the "best picture quality" and they lost - they were forced to withdraw the ads. They've recently launched a few new satellites that give them greater data capacity, but everybody knows that they'll just add more channels rather than improving PQ - it's what they've always done when they've added capacity. At the very least, they are re-compressing MPEG-2 to MPEG-4, which is an inherently lossy process even keeping the same resolution.

    So, you pick your poison. There is no "perfect" TV service, only whatever you personally consider to be least bad.

  36. Cancel Cable, go OTA. by tji · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Since the late 70s there was a continual migration away from OTA antenna reception onto cable and later to satellite services. But, there is a small, but growing, trend back towards antenna.

    Digital TV services offer high visual quality high definition broadcasts from the local broadcasters (ABC, CBS, NBC, PBS, Fox). The digital reception is a big improvement over the old analog stuff. As long as you can get a strong enough signal (which may require a bit of initial antenna tweaking) you get a perfect picture.. no static, shadows, etc.

    If there were more OTA DVR options available (like the HD Tivo, but at a decent price) I think many people would be completely satisfied with OTA-only. With a DVR, you can replace the need for a bunch of channels to surf through with a queue of pre-recorded programs to browse through. Theoretically, those pre-recorded programs should be closer to your viewing preferences than the random garbage on cable.

    There are some good roll-your-own options, like MythTV. But, few people want that much effort for TV viewing. Sony and LG both made OTA/ATSC DVRs, but they weren't very popular. Maybe this will be more of a hobbyist thing for a while.

  37. Re:Comcast sucks donkey balls... by BosstonesOwn · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Oddly enough I found the opposite to be true , and the sad part is it is all regional. So good service can some times be county to county or even city to city :(

    My dishnetwork was great , solid even during blizzard like snow falls. I am in the northeast as well right outside of boston actually and my dishnetwork setup never had issues even in heavy rain i would get some pixelation but very little loss of signal. And they had good quality HD. I switched to comcast because dish refused to swap out a dvr that they destroyed with a software update. My 622 would never tune a channel after the update. It just hung on the menu screen and kept checking for a satellite signal.

    I swapped to comcast and my cost not only went up $15 but they are charging $15 for an hd dvr a month then $3 for the remote. and $5 per outlet. I am sore that I got rid of my dsl and dish for comcast.

    I went over to a rather well off friends home who has fios, and looked at his channels to mine , he pays $26 less a month for tv alone. Then $5 less for phone and $20 less for internet. Thats $51 a month, which would be a nice $600 chunk in my pocket a year. Hey could feed my addiction to new procs every year. The phone is crystal clear , the picture is truly beautiful on the hd channels and much better on sd. The internet is rock solid and the damn thing hits 20 mbit without an issue. I wish my cable service was as cheap , solid , and as fast.

    The major thing that sucks is like you said there is no perfect one , and it's always regional. Some areas are just better maintained and better managed then some and that is really what makes the difference in quality, except for satellite services which are nationwide.

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  38. Just stop, that's all... by JRHodel · · Score: 2, Insightful

    One day, outside the bookstore at a new strip mall near here, I saw a young woman shouting into her cell phone, saying "You don't understand, I don't want to talk to you any more!" and I thought, "Hang up." "Don't answer."

    If Comcast doesn't treat you nice, tell them to come and get their nasty little box, or you can mail it to them, but you're done with them.

    End of story. Don't whine around about it, vote with your money by withholding it from them. Once enough people stop paying them, they'll understand the clue.

    If I were you, I'd worry about OCD TV watching! Read a book or two, take a walk, quit that TV addiction and get a real life!

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