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Judge Deals Blow to RIAA

jcgam69 writes "A federal judge in New Mexico has put the brakes on the RIAA's lawsuit train, at least in the US District Court for New Mexico. The case in question is part of the RIAA's campaign against file-sharing on college campuses and names "Does 1-16," who allegedly engaged in copyright infringement using the University of New Mexico's network. In a ruling issued last month but disclosed today by file-sharing attorney Ray Beckerman, Judge Lorenzo F. Garcia denied the RIAA's motion to engage in discovery. This means that the RIAA will not be able to easily get subpoenas to obtain identifying information from the University."

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  1. Wait... what? by D4rk+Fx · · Score: 5, Funny

    So did the Judge get busted for selling cocaine to the RIAA, or did the RIAA get busted for buying it?

  2. Curious phrasing by TubeSteak · · Score: 5, Interesting

    In a ruling issued last month but disclosed today
    What they really mean is that:
    1. nobody attended the court to hear the motion being ruled upon
    2. nobody read the court filings after the ruling
    3. nobody bothered to get a transcript of the trial to see what happened.

    In other words, the trial wasn't all that important to [news organizations].
    And why wait a month to 'disclose' the ruling?
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    1. Re:Curious phrasing by NewYorkCountryLawyer · · Score: 5, Informative

      It was an ex parte motion.... i.e. no one other than the RIAA knew of its existence.

      The judge rejected it, realizing that there was no reason in the world for the motion to be ex parte rather than on notice.

      I.e., the judge was looking out for people who weren't even aware the case was going on... he was doing exactly what a judge is supposed to be doing in such a situation.

      Since the judge ordered the RIAA to confer with the University of New Mexico, that's how the order came to their attention.

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  3. why a blow to RIAA? by siddesu · · Score: 5, Informative

    This isn't a blow for RIAA in any way. This is a win for a fairer usage of legal system to punish copyright offenders.

    The issue in question is the abuse of the discovery process by the MAFIAA -- they use subpoenas to get identities without the people involved knowing about it; they then then proceed to racket the people directly by offering them a 'cheap' settlement without giving the people a chance to mount defense.

    The ruling only says that MAFIAA has to work out a process with the university to allow people to contest the subpoenas before their identities are revealed. This seems only fair, and it is not a blow, but a remedy instead.

    If someone is caught violating the law, defend themselves, lose and are found guilty -- or decide to settle out -- things still work as intended, only they get a chance to be informed and contest charges.

    Of course and as usual, the MAFIAA has the audacity to say informing people about the subpoenas is doing 'irreparable harm' to them. Yep, sure it does, since it would require them pony up some proof instead of racket.

    To which the judge notes that RIAA will not suffer 'irreparable harm' because of that, since if they can produce proof they can still sue for damages and collect.

    So, i don't see any victims in this ruling.

  4. Costs Us more than ISPs when their users get bit. by Ungrounded+Lightning · · Score: 5, Insightful

    So did the Judge get busted for selling cocaine to the RIAA, or did the RIAA get busted for buying it?

    Unlike ISPs, which have either knuckled under or put up a very weak defense of their users, the university-as-ISP decided to put some effort into defending its students' interests against the RIAA.

    For-profit ISPs have little to lose (beyond their own inconvenience) in handing over logs, and each customer represents a very small revenue stream. Bean counters might decide that failing to defend them costs the ISP little, while defending them costs more than they can ever recoup from that customer's fees.

    Universities have a lot invested in each student and receive a lot from each in the form of tutition and various grant monies, along with other rewards from their success. And they have a lot to lose in other intangibles (such as security of their papers, reputation when recruiting students, staff, and faculty, etc.) So letting students swing in the wind is not just a bad idea academic-freedom wise, it's bad financially as well. (Doubly so if the RIAA's target is a faculty member, staffer, or administrator. Letting one of those get hit, or even distracted, by an RIAA suit comes right out of the University's "intellectual capital".)

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  5. The Real Story by Grouchicarpo · · Score: 5, Funny
    College Student: Dad, I was, like, downloading tunes and stuff, and like, the University lawyer guys said that the CD guys were gonna bill me for, like, thousands of dollars.

    Judge Garcia: WHAT?!? We'll see about that...

  6. Re:Yeah well... by xdotx · · Score: 5, Informative

    California legalized pot


    No, they did not.
    California decriminalized pot, it it still illegal. Cannabis is still a Federal schedule I controlled substance.


    " Typically, decriminalization means no prison time or criminal record for first-time possession of a small amount for personal consumption. The conduct is treated like a minor traffic violation." - www.norml.org

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  7. OMG! What a scandal!! by erroneus · · Score: 5, Funny

    That's the most horrendous story of judicial misconduct I have ever read since this story! I mean a JUDGE! Dealing Blow!!! To the RIAA of all people? I mean, did they find out where he was getting it? Was it any good?

    (Yes, this is probably the worst mis-read headline ever! Muhahaha!)

  8. Re:It'll be interesting to see by NewYorkCountryLawyer · · Score: 5, Informative

    I imagine that they'll probably appeal until they get their way.... They can't appeal; it's not an appealable order.
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  9. Re:Or, everyone could stop breaking the law too. . by russotto · · Score: 5, Insightful

    However, despite this you blast RIAA anytime it tries a new way of getting at the information it needs to proceed with its mission of preventing file sharing.

    Perhaps we object to its mission. Or perhaps just its tactics. Either way, the objection needs to be evaluated on its own regardless of the tactics of file sharers.

    I don't agree with all their tactics, but if a file sharer has the right to get creative and try things, why shouldn't they?

    Oh, if they want to play in the technical arena, they have every right to be creative. They'll lose, of course -- which is why they don't want to play in that court exclusively anymore. When they start playing in the LEGAL arena, their "creativity" is something else entirely -- it's promotion and institutionalization of injustice.

    Trying to constantly one-up 'the man' by cracking all encryption, circumventing logs, etc., in the pursuit of acquiring that which you didn't pay for is wrong and to persist in this will one day result in some very draconion or strange move on the industry's part that will really make it hard for everyone.

    Like most RIAA apologists, you've got the order backwards. The Draconian and strange moves on the industry's part which really make it hard for everyone -- Serial Copy Management System (which killed DAT) and the DMCA -- came BEFORE Napster. Ante hoc ergo non propter hoc.

    The argument that DRM treats the consumer like a criminal is true and I agree. But if you keep behaving in a criminal way. . .

    As long as the RIAA (and MPAA) have the power to make things crimes -- and they do, no question about it -- their complaining about criminal behavior is simply a demand for obedience.

  10. Re:Yeah well... by ThatsNotFunny · · Score: 5, Funny

    Well, according to the headline, this Judge is not smoking Pot. He's Dealing Blow.

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  11. Re:Yeah well... by Paradise+Pete · · Score: 5, Funny
    correcting someone on a site like this about grammar or spelling pretty much just makes you look like an ass

    So what do you think about people who correct someone for correcting someone?