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Walt Mossberg Reviews the iPhone

WSJdpatton writes "Walt Mossberg tested the iPhone for two weeks, in multiple usage scenarios, in cities across the US. His verdict is that, despite some flaws and feature omissions, the iPhone is on balance a beautiful and breakthrough hand-held computer. Its software especially sets a new bar for the smart-phone industry, and its clever finger-touch interface, which dispenses with a stylus and most buttons, works well, though the lack of physical buttons can be a hindrance." Digital Daily has a roundup of early iPhone reviews.

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  1. Other reviews by daveschroeder · · Score: 5, Informative

    David Pogue, New York Times

    - "so sleek and thin, it makes Treos and BlackBerrys look obese."
    - After walking around with the iPhone unprotected for 2 weeks, no marks on it. Glass smudges are easily wiped off.
    - 700 megabytes is occupied by the phone's software
    - Making calls can be a 6 step process if phone is off.
    - Web, Email is superior
    - Battery Life Test: 5 hours video, 23 hours audio. Note: did not turn off Wi-Fi and other features as Apple suggests.
    - Typing was OK. Difficult at first, but learned to "trust" the keyboard. "The BlackBerry won't be going away anytime soon."
    - Cites AT&T network as iPhone's biggest downfall. Cites Consumer Reports survey which ranks AT&T network as last or second to last in 19 out of 20 major US cities.
    - AT&T's EDGE cellular network: "excruciatingly slow"
    - Slideshow of photos taken with iPhone
    - Video Review

    Steven Levy, Newsweek

    - bottom line is that the iPhone is a significant leap
    - The iPhone is the rare convergence device where things actually converge.
    - e-mail looks more like you're working on a computer than a clunky phone
    - YouTube videos work great on Wi-Fi, but can display in a lower quality when you're not at a hotspot and are using AT&T's EDGE network
    - unless I did a lot of video watching or Web browsing, [the battery] could generally last the day
    - I've been jamming it in my pocket with keyrings, coins and pens, and so far it's nearly as good as new.

    Edward Baig, USA Today

    - Apple's iPhone isn't perfect, but it's worthy of the hype
    - The revelation is that it's also comfortable to hold and touch.
    - I expected to miss the tactile feel that a physical keyboard provides. I didn't.
    - You can hold a conference call with up to five people.
    - No voice recognition or voice dialing
    - halfway decent internal speakers for listening if you set the thing down
    - iPod games are not compatible with iPhone
    - our company tech department raised questions about the security settings Apple required with our Microsoft Exchange servers.
    - Battery life didn't prove to be a big problem in my unscientific tests

    Walt Mossberg, Wall Street Journal (the submitted article's highlights):

    - Our verdict is that, despite some flaws and feature omissions, the iPhone is, on balance, a beautiful and breakthrough handheld computer. Its software, especially, sets a new bar for the smart-phone industry, and its clever finger-touch interface, which dispenses with a stylus and most buttons, works well, though it sometimes adds steps to common functions.
    - largest, highest resolution screen of any smart phone they've seen, most internal memory
    - Impressive battery life and thin
    - Feels solid
    - Regarding the touch keyboard: "After five days of use, Walt -- who did most of the testing for this review -- was able to type on it as quickly and accurately as he could on the Palm Treo he has used for years."
    - Can't use T-Mobile SIM cards
    - Wi-Fi capability doesn't fully make up for the lack of a fast cellular data capability
    - Multitouch: "effective, practical and fun"
    - No way to copy/paste text
    - Microsoft's Exchange system support
    - Voice call quality was good, but not great
    - Can't record video
    - No Adobe Flash support
    - Songs can't be set as ringtones
    - Apple says it plans to add fea

    1. Re:Other reviews by j00r0m4nc3r · · Score: 5, Funny

      Songs can't be set as ringtones

      Praise Jesus!

    2. Re:Other reviews by Walzmyn · · Score: 2, Insightful

      You know, this thing is cute and it does lots of wiz-bang stuff. So do all of these "smart phones" out there.

      But what I would pay money for (not this much) is a phone I could sit on, get soaking wet with sweat (it's 95 degrees with >70% humidity here), drop on concrete, etc... and still have the thing work.

      I, and most folks I know, need a phone to do two things: Make phone calls and survive my day.

      my $0.02

    3. Re:Other reviews by Fry-kun · · Score: 5, Funny

      After walking around with the iPhone unprotected for 2 weeks, no marks on it They were lucky to stay ALIVE, walking with it unprotected
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    4. Re:Other reviews by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

      I guess this is more your style. :)

      http://www.milradio.com/Pictures/WW11/BC-611.jpg

    5. Re:Other reviews by feepness · · Score: 3, Interesting

      But what I would pay money for (not this much) is a phone I could sit on, get soaking wet with sweat (it's 95 degrees with >70% humidity here), drop on concrete, etc... and still have the thing work.

      You know what I would pay money for? A phone that detected when someone fails to do a simple google search and then sent a few dozen volts through the intertubes and shocked the person before they could publicly bitch irritating me and making themselves look silly in the process.

      http://www.mobiledia.com/news/27248.html
      br But maybe that's just me.

    6. Re:Other reviews by ozmanjusri · · Score: 5, Funny
      You know what I would pay money for?

      I have one of those phones. What I'd really like to know tho..AArggghhhhhhhhhhhhhh

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    7. Re:Other reviews by Tax+Boy · · Score: 5, Funny

      No voice dialing = deal-killer. How am I supposed to use it hands-free, especially in the car? Two-hand "multi-touch" while driving equals instant death.

      I want a "jesus-phone", not a "meet jesus phone"!

    8. Re:Other reviews by FleaPlus · · Score: 2, Informative

      From Walt Mossberg: "Voice call quality was good, but not great. In some places, especially in weak coverage areas, there was some muffling or garbling. But most calls were perfectly audible. The iPhone can use Bluetooth wireless headsets and it comes with wired iPod-style earbuds that include a microphone."

    9. Re:Other reviews by duckbillplatypus · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I think this is a feature. I HATE dealing with morons on cell phones while driving. Most people have enough trouble navigating a 4000lb piece of equipment without the extra interference of a damn cell phone. If you need to make a call pull over to the side of the road, complete your call, resume driving and pay attention to the road. BTW, I was almost sideswiped by an idiot on a cell phone today.

    10. Re:Other reviews by kcbrown · · Score: 5, Insightful

      How am I supposed to use it hands-free, especially in the car?

      In the car? You're not. You're supposed to keep your concentration on the road and the traffic where it belongs.

      All these idiots yapping on their cellphones while they're driving make driving a lot more hazardous for the few of us left who actually know what we're doing.

      Is that cellphone call so important that someone's gonna die if you don't take it? No? Then shut the fuck up and drive, because if you don't someone may well die because of your idiotic phone call.

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    11. Re:Other reviews by Merusdraconis · · Score: 2, Interesting

      And hands-free is almost as dangerous as actually holding the phone. Your attention's on the conversation, not the road.

      (A conversation with a passenger is not as bad because you can rely on body language and mouth movements to ge tthe gist of the conversation. You don't need to concentrate quite as much.)

    12. Re:Other reviews by CableModemSniper · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Ah yes observing the passenger's body language definitely increases the safety factor :)

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    13. Re:Other reviews by AncientPC · · Score: 3, Insightful

      That seems quite odd considering that the iPhone doubles as an iPod.

    14. Re:Other reviews by Yvan256 · · Score: 3, Funny

      I have one of those phones. What I'd really like to know tho..AArggghhhhhhhhhhhhhh


      Didn't you mean Castle AArggghhhhhhhhhhhhhh

    15. Re:Other reviews by neonmonk · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Also necessary gaps in conversation with someone in the car to concentrate on the road is to be expected expected. Where as someone on the phone wants your immediate attention.

    16. Re:Other reviews by GeoGeer · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Unfortunately I believe that this was a limit set by the music labels. If you read the iTunes agreement I believe that ring tones is specifically omitted from allowable uses.

    17. Re:Other reviews by mike260 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Presumably a 'ringtones' section will soon be appearing in the iTunes store.

    18. Re:Other reviews by kcbrown · · Score: 4, Insightful

      So you never have the radio on? Or talk to a passenger in your car? Because the parents was specifically griping about the lack of hands-free features.

      I know. I do whatever it takes to keep my concentration on driving. If I have to tell a passenger to shut up, that's what I do.

      Handsfree is probably better than nothing, but it's still a major distraction. The person on the cellphone doesn't know when to shut up. The passenger in the car usually does.

      And finally, when you're on an "important call" on your cellphone, it's likely more than idle chitchat. In other words, it takes away even more of your concentration than a typical conversation with a passenger would.

      No, I stand by what I said before, handsfree or no.

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    19. Re:Other reviews by dr00g911 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Amen and testify.

      I actually see some omissions like dialing while driving and music as ringtones are Apple enforcing its taste and manners on the user. They think extremely deeply into the process of not only actually using the phone, but what the overall experience means to the user, and others around them. It's Apple's defining trait, actually, and it's shocking that very few in the technology industry really grok the human part of human interface.

      I would put down money that both those omissions are 100% intentional, and good for Apple.

      Someone needed to buck the norms of both the hardware and carrier aspects of mobile phones, and Apple's doing it in a big way. Maybe the thing won't take over the planet, but it'll certainly change the landscape for the better.

      Side note: my current pet peeve is police officers surfing the web/emailing/whatever on dash-mounted laptops while driving. If you haven't seen one of these, be thankful. That soccer mom in the Caravan with 6 kids and a mobile to her ear won't look nearly as frightening once you experience THE LAW driving like they've just put away a quart of scotch.

      --d

    20. Re:Other reviews by Dystopian+Rebel · · Score: 5, Funny

      But what I would pay money for


      This is Slashdot. We know what you would pay money for.

      But until you move out of your parents' basement, pr0n-to-pr0n networks and VLC will have to suffice.
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    21. Re:Other reviews by PeelBoy · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Make this guy an editor. This is a great example of the perfect forum/slashdot post. Thanks.

    22. Re:Other reviews by Tim+Browse · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Dear Lord Jesus,

      Please could you please please save us from the interminable stream of utterly shite parodies of Apple ads? There's so many of them now. They think they're funny, but they're not. They're also not well written, acted, edited, paced, focussed, produced, framed or directed. In summary, they are made of LOSE and FAIL.

      Thank you Lord.

      kthxbye!

    23. Re:Other reviews by TechnicolourSquirrel · · Score: 2, Insightful

      The person in the passenger seat can see out of the windows. They often know when to shut up, and you don't usually have to explain why you're not talking right now either. There is a social pressure with a phone call not to ignore someone. I have been with plenty of passengers who don't know when to shut up -- most of them, in fact. But the 'shut up now' periods that happen while driving are exceedingly brief, like when merging into traffic -- and, of course, the slower the merge, the less the need to shut up, anyway. I have never had a problem with being able to shut up for a few seconds on a cel, and never had to explain it, either. I just say, 'hang on...' less than 10 seconds later, I'm back. There is no social pressure not to do things like this, that sounds like nonsense to me. Just another example of why everything cool in our society is being pounding into pap by overprotective nerds. For example, when I was a kid there were awesome playgrounds with giant slides, great swinging tires, fireman poles, et cetera. Not anymore. You know, technically, if you keep everything in a 10 foot cube for their entire lives with intravenous feeding, there would be a lot fewer unnecessary deaths. You want to be the first? There is a line here where responsible concern crosses into anal retention. Asking people to devote their hands and eyes exclusively to their driving doesn't cross it. Asking people not to have a conversation most certainly does, as does passing laws such as roller bladers MUST wear helmets et cetera, ad nauseum. Isn't anyone concerned about where this road ends? Pretty soon they're going to outlaw smoking outdoors in my country. They're already talking about it. The big brother society is already here.
    24. Re:Other reviews by concreationist · · Score: 5, Funny

      Maybe he died while posting.

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    25. Re:Other reviews by MikeTheMan · · Score: 5, Insightful

      ...and they will be $2.99, 30 seconds long, have terrible sound quality, and most of the money will go to AT&T. Cell phone ringtones are the biggest scam ever.

    26. Re:Other reviews by imikem · · Score: 2, Insightful

      If I had mod points today, you sir would get one. This is also why Apple is both one of the most admired and despised of modern companies. Some people will like what Apple comes up with, others (maybe most) with different views won't. Down the road many years, most will look back and say, "They got it pretty much right." This is a recurring theme.

      So many people/companies think the way to a great product is just to cram as many line items as possible from a feature checklist into a thing for the lowest cost. Fortunately for them, plenty such monstrosities of featurosis can be found anywhere today. There are also always people who take it personally when whatever new product nearly matches their wish list, but omits their ONE pet feature, and start flaming/trolling out of frustration.

      Then of course, there are the /.ers.

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    27. Re:Other reviews by atomico · · Score: 2, Informative

      The R250 case was made of cast aluminum, we used to crack nuts with them. And it had full water sealing, in fact the user manual recommended washing it under the tap!

      Commercially, it was an utter failure. Expensive to make, low market interest: very few people back what they say with their money.

    28. Re:Other reviews by WATYF · · Score: 4, Funny

      Oh, come on! Look, if he was dying, he wouldn't bother to type 'aaaaarrrggh'... He'd just say it!

    29. Re:Other reviews by tbone1 · · Score: 2, Funny

      Cell phone ringtones are the biggest scam ever.
      Well, outside of politics, of course.

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    30. Re:Other reviews by tbone1 · · Score: 4, Funny
      ....... Perhaps he was dictating.

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    31. Re:Other reviews by Overzeetop · · Score: 2, Informative

      Item one: outlaw radios and passengers, as well as drive through fast food (since with no pasengers, only the driver would be ordering)

      Item two: on most highways it's illegal to pull to the side of the road unless your vehicle is disabled or you are required to do so by law enforcement

      Item three: how did you know they guy who almost sideswiped you was on a cell phone? Was he holding the phone, or did you just assume he was on the phone because he was talking to nobody in particular. You sould see the kind of yelling I do in the car if I accidentally scan the radio and Rush comes on.

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    32. Re:Other reviews by steelfood · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Unfortunately, life doesn't quite work that way.

      People who want to make calls while driving will do so. Period. Nothing's going to stop that, and to think so borders on the naieve and idealistic. It might take ten steps to make a call, but that won't stop anybody (remember the old car phones in the high-end sports cars?). They'll either switch to another phone while on the road, or they'll make calls with their iPhone. The complexity serves as a deterrent for the people who are sensible, but those people aren't the ones I'm worried about anyway.

      Quite frankly, if someone's going to make phone calls while driving, I'd rather that person make phone calls using methods that are less intrusive. But educate them on the effects of making phone calls while driving, so that they'll think twice before every call.

      It's like drinking. I'd rather let minors drink under my supervision to teach them what they should and shouldn't do along the way, than force them to abstain until they're 21. By then, they're beyond my reach, and since they're liberated from an artificial chain and feel that way, they'll drink as much as they possibly can whenever the opportunity presents itself.

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    33. Re:Other reviews by Ilgaz · · Score: 2, Insightful

      ...and they will be $2.99, 30 seconds long, have terrible sound quality, and most of the money will go to AT&T. Cell phone ringtones are the biggest scam ever. If I have accidentally bought some 30 sec thing as ringtone from cell company, I would cancel my subscription no less.

      But their plans on that device possibly having dedicated AAC decoder chip is not "saving" you from horrible joke as song-as-ringtone , it is basically adding it as "feature" to make $600 customers happy and/or adding to iTunes store.

      My Nokia 9300 and all my devices plainly rings just like a phone but the "ring" is actually "Classic.aac" or "Office Phone.aac" which is sample of actual phone ringing. You won't be having that too.

      Lets not forget the business side of this decision. Ringtone is a billions dollar market which feeds lots and lots of music industry workers, artists etc.

    34. Re:Other reviews by poot_rootbeer · · Score: 2, Insightful

      All these idiots yapping on their cellphones while they're driving make driving a lot more hazardous for the few of us left who actually know what we're doing.

      Those idiots would be idiots whether or not they had a cellphone.

      Surely listening to the radio or talking to a passenger must be nearly as deleterious to driver concentration as mobile phone usage is. How come there's no push to outlaw those things?

    35. Re:Other reviews by *weasel · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I actually see some omissions like dialing while driving and music as ringtones are Apple enforcing its taste and manners on the user. They think extremely deeply into the process of not only actually using the phone, but what the overall experience means to the user, and others around them.

      I don't see how a random snippet of music is necessarily more annoying than any other ringtone. Further, I don't know many people who actually want a full song as a ringtone (let alone an obnoxious song), but everyone I know would leap at the chance to load other sounds if it didn't mean paying a couple bucks per non-portable tone to their phone provider.

      And of course that omission is good for Apple -- now users will demand a ringtone section on iTunes, and Apple will get to jump in on the over-priced ringtone market.

      The lack of voice dialing is similarly obnoxious. Presuming that people will change their habits based around a feature omission would be the height of design arrogance (not like that would be a stretch for Apple).
      People are going to talk on the iPhone while they drive. A lack of voice dialing just mean that they'll have to physically manipulate the device to start or end calls. All Apple is doing (if intentional) is ensuring that cell using drivers are more dangerous.
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  2. PLEASE! - GIVE IT A REST! by throatmonster · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I'm as big an Apple Fanboy as any, but the daily iPhone woodies from the editors is even making ME puke. Please guys, lay off the Kool-Aide!

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    1. Re:PLEASE! - GIVE IT A REST! by falcon5768 · · Score: 5, Insightful
      I woke up this morning to the iPhone on Today. Its not just Slashdot... the entire country has drank the koolaid. I used to think I was a Apple Fanboi, but even I think the amount of attention a god damn phone has gotten is ridiculous. While I have no problem defending the thing against the numerous people who are making shit up on the fly to knock it (hi um a LOT of phones are not subsidized when they are released. The Q was 400 dollars on its release, and Treos are still 500 dollars WITH a plan from Verizon unless you buy it online.) at the same time I just want to scream....

      ITS JUST A GOD DAMN CELL PHONE NOT A CURE FOR CANCER

      I really feel ridiculous as a human being people are so enamored with teh shinyz. Especially 500 dollar ones when that money could be used for something so much more important.

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    2. Re:PLEASE! - GIVE IT A REST! by nEoN+nOoDlE · · Score: 2

      I'm not a mac fanboy and I'm definitely not getting an iPhone for awhile - if ever - but I'd still like to read about it. The iPhone is coming out in what? A week or 2? Having reviews of one of the most anticipated phones that's coming out very soon from one of the best loved computer companies is very friggin relevant on a tech news site. If you're tired of hearing about it, stop clicking on the damn link, cause it's something that I want to hear about.

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    3. Re:PLEASE! - GIVE IT A REST! by StoatBringer · · Score: 2, Funny
      ITS JUST A GOD DAMN CELL PHONE NOT A CURE FOR CANCER

      There will be software updates, you know. Wait a couple of months.

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  3. face oil / greasy finger smears?? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    This is a serious question. I know my face tends to be a bit on the oily side and the littlest bit of grime on my fingers will leave a nice blotch on the screen.. I'm surprised I haven't seen anyone else mention this for the iphone. It's also a major PITA when I let people borrow my phone, then I have to wipe their face sludge off my phone. the Iphone looks like one giant magnet for grime.

  4. I dunno about the rest of you... by mattgreen · · Score: 5, Funny

    But when I get my hands on that sweet, sweet iPhone, I'm going to literally cry with joy. Lately, I have been unable to sleep. All I can think of is holding it and putting it in my pocket. Truly, Wednesday is going to be the best day of my life. The only problem is I have to find some friends to call on it. It is odd that none of the reviews mentioned how well the device performs in basements, as that is my primary dwelling place.

    1. Re:I dunno about the rest of you... by UnknowingFool · · Score: 3, Funny

      You would have more friends if you stopped calling it "my preciousssssss"

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    2. Re:I dunno about the rest of you... by Reality+Master+101 · · Score: 2, Funny

      I'm personally going to use the iPhone as a "tool detector". If I see that someone actually ran out and bought one instantly, then I know all I need to know about that person. :)

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    3. Re:I dunno about the rest of you... by Jeremy_Bee · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I'm personally going to use the iPhone as a "tool detector". If I see that someone actually ran out and bought one instantly, then I know all I need to know about that person. :) Don't look now, but I think that quote in your sig functions in exactly the same way. ;-)
  5. Knowledge wins out by Space+cowboy · · Score: 4, Insightful

    So, it seems as though those people who have actually *used* it seem to *like* it. Unlike the majority of stories, posts, blogs, etc. etc. we've seen recently.

    I've lost track of just how many uninformed iPhone-hater pieces I've seen over the last week. Of course, most of that is just blog-spam, and to get more clicks, you just say something controversial... As always, follow the money - then you can make a more-informed decision as to whether the opinion being espoused is worth anything.

    Oh, and always ignore anything Dvorak or Enderle say...

    Simon.

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    1. Re:Knowledge wins out by LKM · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I don't think anyone expected the iPhone to be flawless. For example, I think most people would agree that a physical keyboard works better than the on-screen keyboard. But the on-screen keyboard has the advantage that it only takes up space when you actually need it, so the question isn't whether the on-screen keyboard is as good as a real keyboard, but whether it's a good trade-off.

      So it's perfectly possible to like the phone while at the same time noting that the keyboard doesn't work as well as a physical keyboard.

      Which obviously means that the iPhone isn't the perfect phone for everyone.

  6. Which reviews are you reading? by daveschroeder · · Score: 5, Informative

    Doesn't quite seem to match...

    "After walking around with the iPhone unprotected for 2 weeks, no marks on it. Glass smudges are easily wiped off."

    "I've been jamming it in my pocket with keyrings, coins and pens, and so far it's nearly as good as new."

    "I expected to miss the tactile feel that a physical keyboard provides. I didn't."

    "Typing was OK. Difficult at first, but learned to "trust" the keyboard."

    "After five days of use, Walt -- who did most of the testing for this review -- was able to type on it as quickly and accurately as he could on the Palm Treo he has used for years."

    "bottom line is that the iPhone is a significant leap"

    "The iPhone is the rare convergence device where things actually converge."

    "Multitouch: 'effective, practical and fun'"

    "Feels solid"

    "Apple's iPhone isn't perfect, but it's worthy of the hype"

    "The revelation is that it's also comfortable to hold and touch."

    "Our verdict is that, despite some flaws and feature omissions, the iPhone is, on balance, a beautiful and breakthrough handheld computer."

  7. In other words by ocelotbob · · Score: 4, Insightful

    More of the same. The more I hear about the iPhone, the more I realize it's completely useless for my purposes. No real expandability, no real messaging applications, no real improvement from even phones such as the sidekick. Add a lack of ability to serve as a data modem and being tied to a crappy provider, and I would have to say no thanks.

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  8. There is no "quota" for reviewers by Space+cowboy · · Score: 2, Insightful
    They get to say what they like or dislike about things. They don't have to trash 20% of all products, react favourably to another 20% and ignore the rest.

    Look at what Apple's been releasing, and you can see why he reviews them well. I don't care if you don't like the company, their products have been outstanding over the last couple of years -
    • the portables increasing in market-share (I think I was told 13% recently, quite a bit up from 5%),
    • there's the iPod in all its incarnations 'nuff said
    • and now the iPhone, which actually looks pretty good as well.

    As far as I can see, he's called all those pretty well.

    Simon
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  9. Re:really clean fingers? by ozmanjusri · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Lots of us use touch screen interfaces every day without shedding tears. Why would this be different?

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  10. Okay, so wait for 2.0 by ducomputergeek · · Score: 2, Insightful
    Sorry, I'm as mac fan boy as mac fan boys come, but I NEVER buy a first generation Apple product. This comes from experience with the first gen iPod (my best friend got one and had the battery issues) and personal experience with the first gen snow white iBooks. (I wanted to wait, but an upcoming trip abroad forced my hand at the time).

    While Apple may have gotten things mostly right, they'll refine things and any problems will be well documented by the time the second gen rolls around.

    While my old flip phone may not be super sexy, it will work until Apple gets all the bugs hammered out. Maybe by Christmas or this time next year I'll have one, but until then.

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    1. Re:Okay, so wait for 2.0 by UnknowingFool · · Score: 5, Funny

      Not just macs. I usually avoid most 1st gen electronic products. But that's just me. I'm risk adverse. That's why I'm still in this basement.

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  11. Re:Personal review by dwater · · Score: 5, Funny

    > Microsoft's Exchange system support

    Doesn't he mean 'lack of...'?

    > - Songs can't be set as ringtones

    That might work for the US market, but it won't for some others (eg China).

    > - Apple says it plans to add fea

    Ah, great. I'm sold. My current phone has 'fea', but I had heard the iPhone didn't have it. So, I'm pleased it does, and now I'm definitely going to get one.

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    Max.
  12. Re:really clean fingers? by ToasterMonkey · · Score: 2

    Why is the parent modded insightful?

    Like your ear and face are any less greasy. Take out your cell right now and tell me it doesn't have ear crud on it or a face print. Do it! Now wipe your finger across it and tell me it got WORSE. Morons.

  13. Re:Problems by larry+bagina · · Score: 5, Informative

    even worse: no native IM app (you can probably do it through a website, though) and all the service plans are limited to 200 text messages per month (before extra fees kick in).

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  14. Re:Problems by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    200 is a baseline number for all the plans; more (up to unlimited) can be added as desired (for extra $$$).

  15. Re:All the reviews come down to this: by organum · · Score: 2, Funny

    Really?
    I assumed Apple avoided Verizon because they're using a receding standard, one that's incompatible with most networks worldwide. But then, I hear a lot of businesses still cling to Microsoft, so who can say?

  16. Sorry not interested. by Tomy · · Score: 5, Funny

    I'm waiting for the brick-sized, brown MS Phune.

  17. E911 does not mean GPS by EmbeddedJanitor · · Score: 2, Informative
    Sure, many handsets do use GPS to provide E911 positioning. However there are many other ways to achieve E911 positioning, such as cellular triangulation.

    There are a lot of phones that even have GPS at the hardware level, but it is disabled.

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  18. Verizon... by Junta · · Score: 2, Informative

    My Verizon phone does aGPS for E911, and Verizon actually does let you access it... if you bend over for them just more, which I don't, though I did do the free trial and let it expire, so I know it can work.

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  19. No Flash? Halleluja! by organum · · Score: 2, Interesting

    But really, I can't see why not having Flash availabe is much of a drawback. I see it primarily as adware, which is why I have it blocked by default. I suppose it would be nice if one wanted to idle some time away watching YouTube videos, but at $500+? I can't imagine.

  20. Because i love being modded down... by TinBromide · · Score: 2, Interesting

    The lack of g3 compatability seems to be a big hindrance to a phone that prides itself as not giving you "not the mobile internet, but the real internet". gprs is what, 56k speeds minus the 300ms pings?

    I've unlocked my treo 750 phone to take full advantage of cingular's 386kbit/s g3 and occasionally get a speed of around 800kbps download.

    While i suppose that the iphone was designed to color co-ordinate with a starbucks cup as you sit and browse the interweb in the coffee shop hotspot, i'll be using my treo with a clunky interface to access the mobile internet (i.e. the list of simple websites designed for gprs and below and the one that i would set the 60.0kbit/s iphone to download if i was away from a hotspot.)

    Once again, apple resorts to its age old design technique: stunningly beautifuly, brilliantly intuitive, but about as useful as a 6 year old pc for what 90% of people do 90% of the time.

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    1. Re:Because i love being modded down... by mr_matticus · · Score: 5, Informative

      90% of the US doesn't even have a real 3G network in place yet. My connectivity on 3G with my Windows Mobile device (both on T-Mobile and Cingular) has been no better than GPRS, and I live in the SF Bay Area and travel to other "big name" cities all the time.

      While traveling around the world, I definitely love my 3G-capable device. In the US, I hardly see the point. Just something for the spec-sheet geeks to bitch about. Why support something that most people don't have access to, and even those that do can't get up to speed?

      90% of the people 90% of the time can't get 3G access speeds, even assuming 100% of cell phone users had data plans, which of course they don't. I think you need to re-assess what "people do 90% of the time."

      I'm not going to buy an iPhone, and for all the reasons not to, this is pretty much the most lame.

    2. Re:Because i love being modded down... by RzUpAnmsCwrds · · Score: 2, Insightful

      90% of the US doesn't even have a real 3G network in place yet


      EVDO covers over 250 million people. You may not like CDMA2000, but the majority of mobile users in the US use it. Saying that the US doesn't have 3G widely deployed is simply wrong.

      my connectivity on 3G with my Windows Mobile device (both on T-Mobile and Cingular) has been no better than GPRS


      That's probably because you don't have a device with the right UMTS bands. AT&T's UMTS/HSDPA is broadly available in the Bay Area, from SF to Oakland to the Valley.

      As for T-Mobile, they only just got the spectrum, and there aren't any AWS UMTS devices out in the wild yet. Give them a few months.

      In the US, I hardly see the point.


      AT&T is rolling out UMTS/HSDPA aggressively. If it's not available in your area now, it will be soon. You're probably going to own whatever phone you buy for 2 years. If the $79 BlackJack has UMTS/HSDPA, it's inexcusable that the $500 "revolutionary Internet device" iPhone doesn't.
  21. What I've gleaned... by catdevnull · · Score: 4, Insightful

    From all I've gleaned from being at WWDC, reading the reviews, and sorting through the punditry, the most common negative themes seem to be these:

    -The AT&T EDGE network sucks
    -The iPhone ignores some key smartphone features (vid capture, SMS/MMS, etc.)
    -The price
    -No Flash support for browser
    -No SDK for third-party developers (boo/hiss!)

    Some of the surprises were:

    -The battery life is close to the advertised numbers (well, more than expected anyways)
    -The virtual keypad is actually useable but it takes a little getting used to "using the Force"
    -The multi-touch thing works as advertised
    -the Safari web browser lives up to the hype
    -The WiFi is actually pretty good
    -The iPod part kicks ass (except if you want to use it with 3rd party headphones or in your car's iPod dock)

    My own opinion as a "Mac Professional" and Smartphone addict:

    -If you want one, wait for rev 2--as you should with all Apple products
    -If you don't want an iPhone but like some of the technology, your preferred phone will be getting updates, too
    -It will be nice to merge two more devices that go with me everywhere--my smartphone and my iPod.
    -The price is a bit high, but I think the market will bear it for now and the price will go down by Q4
    -The missing features people are bitching about will come--some of them anyways
    -An SDK will appear after Leopard is launched
    -The entire market will benefit by the iPhone--and the tech will get cheaper

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    I might know what I'm talkin' about, but then again, this is Slashdot...
    1. Re:What I've gleaned... by mr_matticus · · Score: 3, Informative

      What is the whole "except if you want to use it with 3rd party headphones or in your car's iPod dock" all about?

      It's got a standard 3.5mm minijack headphone port and a standard (for iPod) 30-pin dock connector.

    2. Re:What I've gleaned... by prockcore · · Score: 4, Informative

      It's got a standard 3.5mm minijack headphone port and a standard (for iPod) 30-pin dock connector.


      The minijack headphone port is extremely recessed. So you'll need an adapter for most headphones. The software running on the iPhone isn't the same as the software for the iPod and DOESN'T support stuff like the Alpine in-dash iPod controller.
    3. Re:What I've gleaned... by prockcore · · Score: 2, Informative

      As for the non-response to the Alpine product, this is the first I've heard, and a casual Google search revealed no confirmation. Do you have a source?


      Actually, right in the Mossberg article:

      And, while the iPhone uses the standard iPod port on the bottom edge, it doesn't recognize all car adapters for playing music, only for charging.


      I believe on engadget they specifically singled out the Alpine deck, but a casual search didn't find anything.
    4. Re:What I've gleaned... by radish · · Score: 2, Informative

      The recessed port doesn't seem to cause problems in the 5G iPod, which appears to be the exact same configuration.

      Huh? I have a 5.5G ipod and the headphone port isn't recessed at all - it's perfectly flush with the casing. However, on the iPhone you can see it's sunk in somewhat. If the plug on your headphones is too big (for example, Shure often use pretty fat plugs) it may not fit.
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  22. Re:really clean fingers? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    The iPhone screen is made of glass not plastic

  23. Re:GPS and e911 by raindog21 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    E911 has dependencies on the technology used. For GSM operators (like ATT) there are two scenarios. 1. 2G Handsets do not need GPS (or in actuality A-GPS or assisted GPS) since a network based solution can use triangulation using cell signal strength to get an accurate enough position to meet FCC rules for E911. 2. Cell-based triangulation does not work on the 3G (UMTS/WCDMA) network, so the requirement to handset makers is that you need to include a GPS chip for A-GPS (GPS position data is assisted with some network signaling from the cell tower). Unfortunately due to cost / economies of scale you do not see A-GPS in all 3G/UMTS phones yet. The network operators work around this with a temporary 'hack' where you do a handover from 3G to 2G for emergency calls. Within the next year or so you should see just about all 3G phones in US with A-GPS. GPS for location-based services (and not just E911) is another matter and is a function of the device feature set & price point.

  24. Re:really clean fingers? by i_like_spam · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I don't expect to have this dirty-finger problem.

    You see, I live in Minnesota, so I wear gloves 10 months out of the year!

    (On a serious note, can you use these things with gloves on? Inquiring minds want to know.)

  25. EDGE Might Suck But... by ZeldorBlat · · Score: 5, Funny

    The iPhone compensates by being one of the few smart phones that can also use Wi-Fi wireless networks. When you have access to Wi-Fi, the iPhone flies on the Web. Not only that, but the iPhone automatically switches from EDGE to known Wi-Fi networks when it finds them, and pops up a list of new Wi-Fi networks it encounters as you move.

    So you can just set it to "linksys" and you won't even need EDGE.

  26. Impetus for a linux phone... by Statecraftsman · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Having watched Mr. Mossberg's video and read his article, I can't help but think of the recent speedy development of Moonlight and how this speed of development doesn't seem to happen on phones. In the US, I fear the phone companies have held too much power over the phones and features we use.

    Despite it's Visual Voicemail, media, and enhanced web browsing capabilities, I won't have an iPhone for the foreseeable future as I don't do AT&T. I do hope, however, that the iPhone's new hotness casts a dark shadow on other phone makers who have neither the manpower or focus to develop such features themselves. So, listen you laggard phone makers, you. Build a linux-based CDMA*/GSM phone with a palm-style keyboard and let the community develop some free software for you.

    A CDMA-capable Linux phone is something for which I might pay $500. Especially if I could dock it to my monitor, mouse, and keyboard. Oh yeah, Beryl and Synaptic might be nice too.

    * I mention CDMA because Trolltech's Greenphone got me a little excited until I learned that it only does GSM so it won't work with my provider.

    1. Re:Impetus for a linux phone... by dodobh · · Score: 2, Insightful

      There is Openmoko. I really don't care about CDMA though, I have better choices amongst GSM providers with no lock-in. Welcome to the rest of the world.

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  27. Re:really clean fingers? by prockcore · · Score: 3, Interesting

    (On a serious note, can you use these things with gloves on? Inquiring minds want to know.)


    No. It uses capacitance. You'll need really thin gloves or special gloves with electronics embedded in them.
  28. Not an apple hater...but looks aren't enough by scuba_steve_1 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I started working on a "Mac" when it was called a Lisa. I subsequently owned many (actual) Macs and wrote software for the OS professionally (6.x, 7.x, 8.x). Okay, I'm now a Windows user (got tired of the fight...and frankly, XP is just fine)...so I am not a basher...nor am I a fan boy.

    Me? I'm not buying it. Sure, the external looks are great...sexy even...as are the visual bells and whistles in the UI...but features? They just are not there for me. Not even close.

    Visual voice mail is neat. I'm sure the iPod also has some other exclusive neat tricks in there...but I have a year-old Treo that does what the iPhone does and more...for $200. Start with the overlap:

      - Email
      - Web browser
      - MP3 player
      - Phone
      - Addresses
      - Videos
      - Camera
      - Google maps with integrated calling
      - SMS
      - MS Office compatibility (iPod?)

    and a range of other similar functions. Don't bother critiquing the individual Treo apps, because unlike the iPod, I can replace them with other apps. For example, the new version of Opera Mini provides the same means to view an entire web page and zoom in. There are dozens of replacement apps for any one of the above functions.

    Now let's look at some core features of the Treo that the iPod lacks:

      - Multiple carriers
      - High-speed 3G network
      - SD card slot...for essentially infinite on-the-go storage for MP3s et al.
      - Numerous hard buttons to immediately get to the phone, MP3 player, or another app...and they are all programmable
      - Can record video
      - Has a GLOBAL find function
      - CUT & PASTE (between apps)
      - IM
      - Tactile sensation on keyboard for typing...or for dialing

    and perhaps the most important feature:

    I CAN ADD APPLICATIONS TO IT :-) ...and I do...all the time. Games, JVMs, new browsers, whatever I want...from thousands of freeware and commercial titles.

    Yes, Walt claims that he finds the onscreen keyboard to be acceptable...but any Treo user can dial on the screen or on the keypad...and almost everyone I know dials on the keypad when they aren't selecting an existing contact. The actual keyboard and 5-way nav key allow you to use the phone when you aren't staring right at the screen. Yes, we shouldn't dial while we are driving, but we do, and you can do it without looking while using a Treo.

    Hey, the iPod raises the bar...by a large amount...and the screen is 50% larger than that of a Palm-based Treo (320x480 instead of 320x320)...but a $600 phone that is not expandable and is only offered by one carrier with a two-year lock-in? One to which you cannot add software (outside of...ahem...AJAX-based apps)? How about one that claims to be a smart phone killer yet lacks basic features like cut & paste and global find? Yes, it has wifi. Great. So do many phones.

    No, this is a beauty competition. I applaud apple for getting into the market and raising the bar, but I just cannot see how someone thinks this unit is worth the expense compared to other competing devices. I suppose techno lust is powerful...and form often wins out over function. Me? I'll wait a year or two and see what the next versions can do...and how the competition responds.

    Your mileage may vary.

    $0.02

    1. Re:Not an apple hater...but looks aren't enough by saunderscc · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I totally agree. While I think the iPhone is very cool, there are 4 main reasons I won't be camping out for one. 1) Not 3G. I'll bet YouTube videos will be just as smooth as they are demonstrated in the TV ad. What, I can sync videos via iTunes? Way too much work to use one of the fundamental features of a supposedly "smart" phone. 2) No real keyboard. Pretty straightforward here. Why do I want to have to look at the phone to input information? 3) Face grime and fingerprints. Sorry it's a pet peeve. Touch my monitor. Go on. I dare you. 4) 1st iteration of a new Apple product. This should be listed as number 1. After 4 macbooks, I've learned my lesson. I'm unwilling to pay for the privilege of being a Beta tester. I'll get an iPhone when it's 3G which means it won't be a generation 1 device. I'll deal with grime and lack of keyboard in a later version.

    2. Re:Not an apple hater...but looks aren't enough by SuperKendall · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Start with the overlap:

      Yes and all MP3 players play music. Yet there are differences in operation, that have made the iPod a great success while other models languish.

      But of the things you mention, very few are problems with the iPhone many people cannot realistically get 3G, but in many places they get get WiFi. I don't need to be able to record video with it (heck, I didn't even really want a camera!). And saying an SD card slot offers "essentially infinite storage" means you have to buy 8GB worth of SD storage to get the inifinte amount of storage to come close to the iPhone, much less the issue of managing cards. I'll bet your "global find" doesn't tell you which of the swapped out cards something is on...

      As for the keyboard, all the doubters say they would miss it. Yet all of the reviewers say they do not, even those that started with doubts. So what are we to think might be more correct?

      To go along with your admission of being a happy Apple fan, let me say that I was a rabid Palm fan. I convinced many people to buy Palm pilots. I even recently bought a Palm Zier for someone, because it was perfect for what they wanted to do - and indeed they are delighted with it.

      But years ago, ater my Palm V gave up the good fight and stopped listening to the stylus, I waited for a phone/PDA from Palm and got... the treo. I don't know what forces drive men to crave tiny keyboards, but they do not find a hold of me. It is not that I have large hands, I can thread needles with great dexterity and have excellent finger accuracy. I hated the space the keyboards took, and across many devices (not just the Treo) I hated typing on said small keyboards... and so i waited for Palm, who I still consider to once have been a company of innovators as great as Apple has ever been, to deliver to me a "real" phone PDA that was worthy of the legacy.

      Apple has delivered the phone I have waited for so long for Palm to build.

      Over time, we will see expandability (in applications anyway), growth of features, and a browser that makes actually using AJAX based applications thinkable instead of madness. One thing common to the Apple experience is that feature sets and usability improve with time - it was true of the iPod and there's no reason to think it will be any less so for the iPhone.

      How do I think it's worth the expense? Because I have used he other devices, even the Treo, and the iPhone appears to suck about $1000 less than those, never mind $600.

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  29. Passion wins out by shmlco · · Score: 5, Insightful

    "I'm not surprised people like it, actually I'd be more surprised if people didn't like it."

    Actually, to me that's the hallmark of successful design: Invoke passion. Make something that some people love and that some people hate and you'll have a market.

    Too many companies design by committee and focus groups to the point where the end result is odorless, colorless, and tasteless. Others seemingly design by comparison chart, cramming in feature after feature, and often for no more reason than to fill in the blanks.

    The later approach also seems to be favored by commentators here on Slashdot. But by walking a mental checklist of missing features, they also miss what it does do. And by all accounts, does to the point of elegance.

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  30. Re:really clean fingers? by ozmanjusri · · Score: 2, Insightful
    Just because you really love Apple's products, doesn't mean you're the most unbiased source of an opinion about smartphones.

    I don't own any Apple products, but I've been using touchscreen devices since I bought a Palm Pilot 1000 back in '96. I've owned several smartphones with various OSs on them and have a Windows based touchscreen smartphone now.

    I'll cheerfully say every smartphone I've owned has been an annoying piece of crap, mitigated only by being better than having to carry both a PDA and a phone. I'll reserve judgement on the iPhone's annoyance level until I've used one, but I can confidently assert that smeary marks on a touchscreen pales into insignificance compared to many other moronic design decisions foisted on buyers.

    Even if I never own an iPhone, I'm very pleased to see Apple competing in the market. Hopefully they'll raise the bar for all smartphones.

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  31. Re:really clean fingers? by Divebus · · Score: 2, Interesting

    The iPhone screen is made of glass not plastic

    So, how long until the glass touchscreen stops responding to input? Won't the atom thin coating get nicked and break the circuits? Or is it better than that?

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  32. Re:iPhone or EVDO? by smack.addict · · Score: 2, Informative

    What was the step forward about the iPod? It was Yet Another MP3 Player.

    The step forward was about the design and ease of use. Taking the stupid things we just assume are natural hassles with the device and turning them into something easy.

    The touch screen and the auto-landscaping stuff look truly innovative. Nevertheless, what Apple has done with the iPhone is the same thing. Take, for example, the process of purchasing a phone. It's always been a huge hassle. Phones aren't great gifts exactly because you have to go through all the setup hassles in the store. Now, with the iPhone, you just go wherever, buy it like anything else, and take it home. Run through a couple of screens in iTunes and you are done. That's a fundamental change in the relationship with the phone.

  33. thank you, Apple! by nanosquid · · Score: 2, Insightful

    No, I don't want an iPhone: I think it's underpowered and overpriced. But the release of the iPhone will hopefully cause other manufacturers to make thinner phones with nicer screens and better user interfaces.

  34. WHERE'S THE CLICKWHEEL? by mattnyc99 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    It's the defining characteristic of the iPod, and Apple says the iPhone is "our best iPod yet." So where did that clickwheel go? Good column on this here

  35. Excellent by SuperKendall · · Score: 3, Funny

    More of the same. The more I hear about the iPhone, the more I realize it's completely useless for my purposes

    Yes everyone, listen to him! It is useless.

    I hate standing in long lines.

    You may awaken Saturday with your urges resumed.

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  36. Re:No SIM? by Spy+Hunter · · Score: 3, Interesting

    The sim card can be changed; there is a hole in the top to stick a paper clip and the sim card pops out (the NYTimes review shows this feature). What Mossberg was saying is that the phone is locked to AT&T, so it refuses to accept other sim cards. However, rest assured that hackers will soon unlock the iPhone. Furthermore, Apple has ensured that you don't have to sign a contract to buy the iPhone, so there's no cancellation fee!

    Apple has played this well; despite the much lamented exclusivity contract, the only real-world limitation will be that you're limited to GSM providers (which admittedly, in the US, limits you to AT&T or T-Mobile). The only real question is: how will the iPhone's software react to non-AT&T networks? Visual voice mail won't work for sure. iTunes seems pretty integrated with the phone service; how will iTunes react to a non-AT&T service? More hacking might be required.

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  37. new standards emerge by SethJohnson · · Score: 2, Insightful



    I mean sell the phone at the apple stores with out any service whatsoever, like you can with Motorola, Samsung, Nokia, etc, phones.

    The iPhone's feature set isn't compatible with all the carriers. The iPhone is laying down a new standard that ATT / Cingular has adopted in order to be the exclusive carrier during the rollout. If the phone sells huge numbers, the other carriers will modify their infrastructure to support the new standard.

    What is this new standard? Random-access voicemail. I don't have the money to buy this phone this week, but the new voicemail scheme ALONE is compelling enough for me to buy it if I had the cash. I absolutely hate navigating audio menus burning up my minutes trying to get to the 14th message out of 20. Being able to click on ten messages and delete them without dialing up is hugely attractive to me.

    Making the phone compatible with every other carrier as you've suggested would have meant dumping this feature. It would have been too difficult to get all the telcos to change their VM systems to support this feature for an unproven single model of phone.

    Reminds me of when the iMac came out and it ONLY supported USB. No serial ports. There were no scanners or printers available for it when it went on sale. Lots of pundits predicted failure for the colorful machine. Then it sold massive units and every peripheral vendor quickly ramped up production of USB devices to be compatible with the #1 selling computer model. Apple forced innovation onto the market in an area that had languished through adherence to legacy technology like serial and parallel.

    Apple does have balls to 'do something different,' as you recommend. That's why the phone is only available through one service provider.

    Seth

  38. NOT suitable for visually impaired people by blind+biker · · Score: 5, Insightful

    This product is just one in a long series, in a trend to completely overlook the needs of blind users. I have been in the market for MP3 players which could be used by blind people, and the general trend is, the newer the device, the less the chances it can be used. The iPhone continues this trend, and I fear the day when other manufacturers pick up on the novelty.

    Just a little addition to my rant: I noticed that even simple changes to the firmware, that would make the interface more suited for blind people, like returning to the initial state of the menus, if no interaction for a minute (or such), is being dropped in newer models, even thought it costs nothing to implement. It's almost as if manufacturers have a requirement to make their electronic gadgets less usable by the blind.

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    1. Re:NOT suitable for visually impaired people by Gary+W.+Longsine · · Score: 3, Informative

      My father is visually impaired and I'm sympathetic to the perspective you raise. However, the only physical button on the front of the iPhone does exactly what you suggest -- returns you to the main screen, and without waiting some random number of seconds. The iPhone interface isn't optimized for the visually impaired, but the interface reference point is established in a method superior to what you suggest.

      The higher pixel density of the screen should make the screen somewhat more accessible to those with certain low-vision issues, as compared with other screen based phones. However, phones with physical keypads are probably superior in general for that group. There are interesting technologies in Mac OS X for accessibility. As with other features, those that make sense in a phone-like device will probably migrate to the iPhone as the device matures. Some will take the form of software updates to existing models, others may require new hardware revisions, a voice recognition chip for example.

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    2. Re:NOT suitable for visually impaired people by robot_love · · Score: 2, Informative

      Maybe you already know this, but I believe the RockBox firmware has some features for blind people including some element of voice commands. It can be used on many mp3 players.

      --
      .there is enough of everything for everyone.
  39. Two major issues: by Max+Romantschuk · · Score: 3, Insightful
    The screen only works with skin contact. How am I supposed to use this thing in the winter?

    From the article:

    The iPhone's most controversial feature, the omission of a physical keyboard in favor of a virtual keyboard on the screen, turned out in our tests to be a nonissue, despite our deep initial skepticism. After five days of use, Walt -- who did most of the testing for this review -- was able to type on it as quickly and accurately as he could on the Palm Treo he has used for years. This was partly because of smart software that corrects typing errors on the fly.
    So basically it's at least as annoying as using T9 for me, where I constantly have to keep changing between the Finnish, Swedish, and English dictionaries?

    I still want one, though... ;)
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  40. Re:really clean fingers? by Miphnik · · Score: 2, Informative

    The elements of capacitive touchscreens (like the iPhone's) do not require direct contact, and are thus not on the protective lens over all embedded LCD displays, i.e., those in a product and not a raw module. The electrodes are typically laid down on either the front surface of the actual front glass of the display in a fashion no different than that for the circuitry on the rear (inside) of the front glass, or on a separate intermediate layer between the display front glass and the protective lens. The only way you're going to break a capacitive touchscreen is if you first break or remove the protective lens and then damage the surface of the display below it, or kill the sensing circuit with either a conductive liquid (shorting) or an electrostatic discharge that finds a path through the housing (gaps, ungrounded or insufficiently grounded metal, etc.).

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  41. Re:A Total Shock! Mossberg likes an Apple Product! by LKM · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Maybe he generally writes positive reviews about Apple's products because they're generally good products. Just a hunch. Your conspiracy theory could be true, too.

  42. Fingers? by Morky · · Score: 3, Funny

    The iPhone is so hot, my finger is not the appendage I plan on operating it with.

  43. Seems like a typical Apple product by GauteL · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Not the most features, but the ones that are there are well done. Apple is not going after the people that love smart phones, so for most of the Slashdot crowd it is probably a dud, they are going after the people that could do with many of the features of smart phones but hate the ones that already exist.

    So, this is all about bringing the features of smart phones to the people that previously would never buy a smart phone due to their clunky nature. By all accounts it is going to be a storming success.

    Personally I like the feature set of the iPhone, except the lack of 3G, and I could never justify the cost of it. Do I want it? Hell yes, but I'm going to have to wait for a while. This is obviously part of the Apple plan:
    1. Release a sexy phone that lots of people want
    2. Make it initially very expensive, so that it becomes a luxury status item.
    3. Wait until it is firmly established as THE status item, then start slowly release new versions at cheaper prices making loads of people buy it because they still view it as a status symbol even though everyone can now afford to buy one.

    Exactly the same plan as with the iPod.

  44. No contracts? by stewbacca · · Score: 2, Informative

    Apple has ensured that you don't have to sign a contract to buy the iPhone, so there's no cancellation fee!
    Where did you hear this? Apple posted on their web site the price for the three subsription plans, and announced the early cancel fee is $175. Are you just arguing semantics (contract vs. subscription plan)?
  45. Overrated? by MaWeiTao · · Score: 2, Informative

    Most electronics companies seem to develop the same old products until Apple comes along and produces a competing product with an elegant design and a streamlined interface. It's not so much that they innovate but that they take the most important features and make easy to use.

    That said, if the US market had access to the kinds of phones available in Asia and Europe the impact the iPhone has made would be significantly smaller. There are some great-looking phones in the rest of the world with all kinds of functionality.

    And design-wise, I bought a lower-end NEC phone a year and a half ago that has all the same design cues as this iPhone. Black face, metallic bevel, etc. My phone isn't touch screen and it has individual buttons, but the basic styling is similar. My point is that while the iPhone certainly looks very nice, it isn't the pinnacle of design. Again, I've seen phones overseas that are visually more impressive.

    I think one of the biggest hindrances to progress in the US mobile phone market has been the service carriers. Verizon, AT&T/Cingular, Sprint and all the others have done nothing but screw the American public in numerous ways.

    The good thing about the iPhone is that it should stimulate the mobile phone market and it reminds people of the limitations of the American mobile phone network.